Skunk2 Pro1 H22 Dyno Inside

[Vteckidd]

One of my customers has an h22 swapped Del Sol. The motor was bone stock an he competes pretty regularly in all the local track events.

At the last track event, he mishifted an got some valve noise. He decided to take it down over the winter and build the head.

Previous setup:
STOCK H22 LONGBLOCK (stock intake manifold, stock tb, stock cams)
RSR header
2.5in crush bent exhuast

New Setup:
Stock h22 block
Skunk2 PRO1 Camshafts
Skunk2 Valvesprings and Retainers
Skunk2 Flat Faced Valves
RSR header
2.5in crush bent exhaust.

Got a chance to dyno it last night, this was a quick tune, as he didnt have the funds to tune it for along amount of time. But the gains were impresseive to say the least. He is gonna enjoy it, and bring it back in march to see if we can crack 200whp which im sure its more than capable of.

BLUE=OLD SETUP
RED=NEW SETUP WITH SKUNK2 PRO1 CAMSHAFTS
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c21/Vteckidd/H22PRO1.jpg

As you can see, the new cams dominate EVERYWHERE in the powerband, as much as 28-30whp in some spots.

We will switch headers im sure by next year. but i thought this was great info for you H22 guys with stock bottom ends.


FYI:our dyno is VERY CONSERVATIVE, its very rare to make over 200whp on our dyno. most stock h22s with i/h/e make between 165whp-175whp.

[Bruce Leroy]

nice #'s.

[all-mota]

sweet it looks like the pro series is kickin ass

[Da_unknown]

thats impressive...:goodjob:

[silversol]

Man I bet thats a fun car to drive now!!

[JDMBeau]

nice. ya i think my prelude made like 165 or someshit like that. how much est. do you think he has in his setup?

[chris13]

damn mike lets put an H22 in my EG hatch :goodjob:

[MIami-boy]

WOW that h22 should easily be in the 200whp because h22 swapped accord with i/h/e put down 190hp and like 150 ish tq but like u said your dyno is conservative. that motor should be easily seeing 210whp. the tq is to low 146. but all in all good numbers i guess. BTW y is the dyno conserative???

[Vteckidd]

again, i keep seeing this on several boards.

Dynos are not all the same, motors are not all the same.

I HAVE NEVER HAD AN H22 WITH BOLT ONS MAKE MORE THAN 174whp. NEVER whether it was an accord , prelude, etc.

so even at that he made 18whp increase if we use the HIGHEST whp h22 i have ever seen with bolt ons.

its a real world gain

[BimmerMan]

how much of a difference does that header make? I'll be up there soon to break that H22 record (i'm hoping!!!) I got a H22+intake & exhaust but stock headerr w/ Pro 1's going in it probably next week if time allows. how big of a deal is the header?

[WhiteAccord]

again, i keep seeing this on several boards.

Dynos are not all the same, motors are not all the same.

I HAVE NEVER HAD AN H22 WITH BOLT ONS MAKE MORE THAN 174whp. NEVER whether it was an accord , prelude, etc.

so even at that he made 18whp increase if we use the HIGHEST whp h22 i have ever seen with bolt ons.

its a real world gain

This gives the Honda People hope.... But very nice numbers... Keep up the good work +1

[PawnShopCEO]

again, i keep seeing this on several boards.

Dynos are not all the same, motors are not all the same.

I HAVE NEVER HAD AN H22 WITH BOLT ONS MAKE MORE THAN 174whp. NEVER whether it was an accord , prelude, etc.

so even at that he made 18whp increase if we use the HIGHEST whp h22 i have ever seen with bolt ons.

its a real world gain

oh really... I know someone with a virtually stock bottom end and cams that put down 227

[Vteckidd]

oh really... I know someone with a virtually stock bottom end and cams that put down 227
since when are Eagle rods/Type-S pistons/Euro R manifold/Skunk2 stage 2s stock :???: :tongue1:

[brads94accord]

those are pretty good numbers for an h22.

I like the increase all across the board it made


my buddy ryan (highschool) made 165whp on batlgrounds dyno a few years ago in his prelude w/ just apexi dunk catback exhaust, tuned VAFC, and AEM CAI.

[Annihilation]

I'll be sending a guy in a couple weeks with a accord h22 with a skunk2 package and P&P he shoudl be able to crack 200 easily......good #s

[Vteckidd]

SWEET!! ^^^^

[BimmerMan]

I'll be sending a guy in a couple weeks with a accord h22 with a skunk2 package and P&P he shoudl be able to crack 200 easily......good #s
is that the accord in your sig?? you got any better pics it almost looks like mine. I'm hoping to break 200 also. I don't have a header and not sure whether i should wait and get one first before going to the dyno to tune it? not sure if it makes a big difference

[Vteckidd]

makes a BIG difference, get the header first

[93H22ACX]

good job guys!

i'll have a stock NA h22 swap soon for a little while before i go boosting it again :)

[Project:PULL]

I'll be sending a guy in a couple weeks with a accord h22 with a skunk2 package and P&P he shoudl be able to crack 200 easily......good #s
u talking bout O? That's my boy. I can't wait to see him break 200 N/A.

[PawnShopCEO]

since when are Eagle rods/Type-S pistons/Euro R manifold/Skunk2 stage 2s stock :???: :tongue1:


everything in that list other than cams and rods is stock

[93H22ACX]

so true..everything is OEM except for the cams and rods. rods dont add power so shouldnt be a factor....

either way... run him when ur car is up and running jason :)

[Annihilation]

u talking bout O? That's my boy. I can't wait to see him break 200 N/A.


yea thats him

[Project:PULL]

yea thats him
I think he's hoping for around 215+. Guess we'll see. I'll post, or get him to post the dyno sheet once the Head work and tuning is done.

[all motor 02]

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Previous setup:
STOCK H22 LONGBLOCK (stock intake manifold, stock tb, stock cams)
RSR header
2.5in crush bent exhuast

New Setup:
Stock h22 block
Skunk2 PRO1 Camshafts
Skunk2 Valvesprings and Retainers
Skunk2 Flat Faced Valves
RSR header
2.5in crush bent exhaust.

Got a chance to dyno it last night, this was a quick tune, as he didnt have the funds to tune it for along amount of time. But the gains were impresseive to say the least. He is gonna enjoy it, and bring it back in march to see if we can crack 200whp which im sure its more than capable of.

BLUE=OLD SETUP
RED=NEW SETUP WITH SKUNK2 PRO1 CAMSHAFTS
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c21/Vteckidd/H22PRO1.jpg

As you can see, the new cams dominate EVERYWHERE in the powerband, as much as 28-30whp in some spots.

We will switch headers im sure by next year. but i thought this was great info for you H22 guys with stock bottom ends.


FYI:our dyno is VERY CONSERVATIVE, its very rare to make over 200whp on our dyno. most stock h22s with i/h/e make between 165whp-175whp.


With a K SERIES YOU CAN EASIly PULL 200whp With I/E/H. and maybe KPRO. just goes to prove a 2.0L I-vtec outperforms its older BROTHERS. :tongue1:

[Vteckidd]

an your point is?

one costs $3000 MORE than the other
H22 swap from Hmotorsonline.com $2000
K20A2 swap from Hmotorsonline.com $4200, KPRO $1000

forget the fact taht the h22 is WAY easier to install than the K20 cost wise as the K20 needs alot more stuff to run.

I dont see the point of your post, thats like me posting a Turbo D series graph making 190whp and you saying "A GSR TURBO MAKES MORE" duh, we all know that

[BimmerMan]

so someone help me out here. I have a H22 w/ intake, upgraded valvetrain, custom cat-back exhaust, skunk2 pro1 on the way in right now and a STOCK header. will it make a worthwhile difference to put some kind header (dc sports or something lower class) on it or just leave it w/ the stock header and have it tuned that way?

[scttydb411]

aftermarket header will make better power. if you plan on replacing the header soon then tuning first then replacing header wouldn't be adviseable unless you don't mind a slight retune after adding the new header.

[BimmerMan]

what would be my best option for a header less than $250??? (nothing lol)

[BimmerMan]

my main point being is it worth it for the time being because if I get a header it will be longer before I can afford to get it tuned

[Goinfasterthanu]

With a K SERIES YOU CAN EASIly PULL 200whp With I/E/H. and maybe KPRO. just goes to prove a 2.0L I-vtec outperforms its older BROTHERS. :tongue1:

Yea dont bother to say the torque wont be even close.. The k series has better gearing and thats about it.. I have 195hp n/a with just 4 boltons and tuning..on a h22..Oh and 162ft/tq wanna see a k do that...You could save enough to build the h22 ...lol

[all motor 02]

Yea dont bother to say the torque wont be even close.. The k series has better gearing and thats about it.. I have 195hp n/a with just 4 boltons and tuning..on a h22..Oh and 162ft/tq wanna see a k do that...You could save enough to build the h22 ...lol

how about a K24 That puts down 307whp and 231trq... ALL MOTOR Lets see a H22 Do that. :taun: And all it has done is 12.5:1 pistons, Carilllo Rods, RSX head, IPS KME ValveTrain, and tuning.

[Vteckidd]

how about a B series making 327whp, just call Erik Aguilar

K series is cool, but they cost alot more than most people can afford

[all motor 02]

I bet is cost over $15k to build up a B series like that... Im just stating that K-series is Better to build NA wise then a B-SERIES OR H-SERIES.

[Vteckidd]

I bet is cost over $15k to build up a B series like that... Im just stating that K-series is Better to build NA wise then a B-SERIES OR H-SERIES.
:blah:

[all motor 02]

LOL...haha

[all motor 02]

and oh yeah what the hell compression is that B Series running? Is this Street Driven?

[Vteckidd]

NOOB, if you dont know who Erick Aguilar is, dont worry about it HAHA.

[boosted_nonv]

nice numbers

[all motor 02]

NOOB, if you dont know who Erick Aguilar is, dont worry about it HAHA.


Let me guess he is the one at Evans Tuning?? on the EAST COAST? Have you heard of Ron at IPS? in CA with a 354whp K24? N/A

[ATK_Designs]

all motor 02 - If I remember correctly, this thread is about evaluating Skunk2 Pro 1 Cams for H22 motors and NOT a comparison between H series and K series.

If you have your comments or points to make, start a new thread or take it elsewhere. Keep it on topic. Do not comparing apples to oranges as they're not the same.

-1 for you.

[Vteckidd]

Let me guess he is the one at Evans Tuning?? on the EAST COAST? Have you heard of Ron at IPS? in CA with a 354whp K24? N/A
HAVE YOU HEARD OF SKUNK2, 367whp K23 NA??

HAVE YOU HEARD OF NORRIS?

dude, im MR. ALL MOTOR around here, i hold the record for the HIGHEST WHP HONDA MOTOR IN GEORGIA, 237whp/159TQ.

stop name dropping, i know Tony SHagday, David Hsu, Ron, Nikos, and more. Im actually conducting a Skunk2 vs IPS camshaft duel this weekend. They both sent me cams for free to settle a debate. check it out on K20a.org

your comments about K series are worthless in regard to this thread. who gives a shit about a K series. THe price this guy has in his H22 is about $3000 CHEAPER THAN A STOCK K20A2 swap.

Ks are cool, but they are $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[Vteckidd]

Let me guess he is the one at Evans Tuning?? on the EAST COAST? Have you heard of Ron at IPS? in CA with a 354whp K24? N/A
nah who is IPS never heard of them:

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c21/Vteckidd/Picture470-1.jpg

who is skunk2? never heard of them either:
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c21/Vteckidd/Picture476-2.jpg

Whose Tony Shagday?:

were getting your marketing office ready here Mike with a window view and evertyhing! hahaha


Hey Mike, The retainers were sent form one of our dealers but the cams and valvesprings were sent directly from me. Call me on Monday and I can arrange to have some stage 2's drop shipped from a dealer, not a big deal for us.

but what do i know

[Goinfasterthanu]

nah who is IPS never heard of them:

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c21/Vteckidd/Picture470-1.jpg

who is skunk2? never heard of them either:
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c21/Vteckidd/Picture476-2.jpg

Whose Tony Shagday?:




but what do i know


ROFL!!

[93H22ACX]

what about domestics making more hp and torque then imports NA lol....

for the amount that a K-series uses to make 200+whp, H can do it also. Some H are making 190-200whp stock form. its all in how healthy the motor is and how well YOUR motor responds to the modiciation combo.

but who cares...high hp dont mean you'll be fast. Mike/Mainstream...can probably configure their dyno read 300whp on a D15 for me :)

Once again...nice dyno numbers...hope to see it run at the track soon.

[all motor 02]

LOL I see your doing the Camshaft test on k20a.org cant wait to see results.sorry i was getting off topic on here. Congrats on all your accomplishments over there in GA.

[Crazy Asian]

Blah Mike....wait till you see the thing that's gonna be dropping in the bay of lude. You'lll be getting a lovin call from me for a new swap. Somehting the lines of JDM longblock with LSD and new header new cams new im and new exhaust. Sooon very soon youll be shocked and pee in you lil boy pants.