NEW pics of the SFWD civic Build FINALLY!!!

[v8killr]

Well a LOT has been changed since the last time I made a thread about my OWN personal build so here it is! We are pushing for 850whp off the bottle and maybe 900ish on the bottle. I HOPE anyways. Who knows until I actually get it running and get her on the dyno!!! We will conservatively tune it to 20-25psi on the dyno then slowly crank up the boost at the track and tune off data logging. Should be a very fun experience! Cant wait...

Here's a parts breakdown of the build and the list just keeps getting longer everyday...lmao! Here it goes:

BLOCK:
b18c1 w/ 81.5mm Darton sleeves
JDM P73 Type-R knife edged crank
Full-Race Manley Turbo Tuff Rods
Clevite H-bearings
81.5mm CP pistons with upgraded wristpins
JDM P73 OEM oil pump
JDM P73 OEM water pump
AEBS head studs
Endyn breather catch can kit x2
Kept the GE ls/vtec coversion kit for this certain build


HEAD:
b16a3 Ported and Polished head
GSR camshafts
SuperTech valve springs/retainers
SuperTech Black Nitride coated intake valves
Supertech Inconel exhaust valves
Bronze valve guides
P72 OEM timing belt
OEM upper/lower gasket kits
JG Victor X intake manifold


FUEL SYSTEM COMPONENTS:
STR fuel rail
STR 68mm throttle body
Precision 1600cc low impedance fuel injectors
Aeromotive Eliminator fuel pump
Aeromotive 100-Micron Stainless Element fuel filters (one before and after the fuel pump)
Aeromotive A1000 fuel pressure regulator
Full-Race fuel tank Sump
S.S. -10 feed & -8 return fuel lines


MANIFOLD AND TURBO SPECS:
Full-Race ProAm (topmount) divided housing turbo manifold
Garrett GT4294r 1.01 a/r
3” IC piping
2 44mm Tial wastegates (Red)
50mm Tial blow off valve
Precision 750hp intercooler
TurboXS Quad stage boost controller
AEM 5 bar map sensor


DRIVETRAIN:
GSR Hydro tranny w/obx diff
Tilton twin disc clutch kit
Tilton throwout bearing kit
Full-Race traction bars
Omnipower drag coilover set
GE scatter shield
New set of MT ET streets coming


ENGINE MANAGEMENT:
AEM EMS(Maybe Neptune soon!!! )


Wheels and Slicks:
Weld Magnum 2 piece(Silver outer & Gold center) 15x8’ front w/ 24.5x8.5x15 M&H slicks
Weld Magnum 1 piece (Gold) 15x3.5 Rear skinnies w/ M&H 15x5.5 tires


EXTRAS NOT LISTED ABOVE:
4” down pipe and full exhaust w/ Burns muffler
Simpsons Parachute kit
Full-Race 6 point roll cage
Simpsons Window Net
MSD 6A
MSD HVC2 coil


Here's a few pics I snapped. I just went to Cortneys Greens house the day before yesterday to finnally pickup this engine and I cant even put into word what the engine looks like! Its GOLD to me.

Tell me what you all think:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a286/joepiscapo_83/SIMG0056.jpg

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[B18c1Turboed]

FULL OF SHIT!!
Heres a post you made back in Decemeber damm you sure changed alot after motor being built.
Or maybe back in Dec you didnt have shit like everyone said.

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1469969

[v8killr]

FULL OF SHIT!!
Heres a post you made back in Decemeber damm you sure changed alot after motor being built.
Or maybe back in Dec you didnt have shit like everyone said.

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1469969


Im full of shit??? The only things that have chage so far is this:

1. We went with a GSR block instead of a b18b1..for more power of course.

2. then the second turbo i purchased the second time around had to be was tad bit smaller in price. the nornal bearing gt4294 was my choice and it also turned out to be a great turbo. Its just 300 rpms difference in spool time.

3. Went with a Tilton Twin because I found this brand new one that Wil from Exospeed hook me up with.

4.STILL the same head.

5. This is for your rude comment. The pics that I posted on H-T wayyy back didnt come out of my asshole man. Although I wish it was that simple! lnao.

So almighty one...what all so DRASTICALLY have I changed? All the block internals are the same. :screwy:

[josh green]

We went with a GSR block instead of a b18b1..for more power of course


What proof is there that a gsr block makes more power than a ls? It isnt the oil squirters there buddy.

[JDMBeau]

What proof is there that a gsr block makes more power than a ls? It isnt the oil squirters there buddy.


i know the displacement is a little larger, but not enough i think that would make the power diffrence.

[B18c1Turboed]

Im full of shit??? The only things that have chage so far is this:

[QUOTE]1. We went with a GSR block instead of a b18b1..for more power of course.
Really, Once you sleeve the block out to 84mm it dont matter if its GSR or LS,
Make more power you will make the same dumbass






So almighty one...what all so DRASTICALLY have I changed? All the block internals are the same. :screwy:
HAHa why didntyou run the first sleeves you where running? why you change too darton when the other onees where so much better, you talked down too trinh like he didnt know shit and then u end up switching sleeves!! I think he was right and you where wrong and u werent amn enought to say it!

[v8killr]

DANNY,once again. I went with the gsr block FOR THE FUCKING GIRDLE YOU IDIOT! Youre really starting to piss me the fuck off! This is my build not yours...SO DONT WORRY about wtf I do with it. All I do know is Im not SCARED to go fast down the track you fat pussy! lmao

And one more thing...theyre the SAME sleeves idiot!

SOOOO, thanks ONCE AGAIN for proving yourself an idiot. THANKS MAN! Its fucking hilarious man. Think about things before you make stupid ass posts!

[josh green]

DANNY,once again. I went with the gsr block FOR THE FUCKING GIRDLE YOU IDIOT! Youre really starting to piss me the fuck off! This is my build not yours...SO DONT WORRY about wtf I do with it. All I do know is Im not SCARED to go fast down the track you fat pussy! lmao

And one more thing...theyre the SAME sleeves idiot!

SOOOO, thanks ONCE AGAIN for proving yourself an idiot. THANKS MAN! Its fucking hilarious man. Think about things before you make stupid ass posts!
why not just buy the ERL girdle rather than a whole new block if thats all you wanted?

[aaronfelipe]

damn.... CALLOUT

[SL33P3R]

Looks like its gonna be a sickass car

-Taylor

[v8killr]

why not just buy the ERL girdle rather than a whole new block if thats all you wanted?

we tried the z10 girdle on my ls block and it took out to much material so Cort decided to go with a GSR block and keep the stock girdle to WITHSTAND more power. There ... I place it into a better sentence for Danny! :thinking: :crazy: :eek:

[v8killr]

Looks like its gonna be a sickass car

-Taylor

Thanks man! Throwing the engine in tomorrow afternoon. Cant fucking wait to get this bitch fired up!!! :boobies:

[Tank]

sounds like a sick build indeed keep us posted and dont sweat the haters...........

[josh green]

we tried the z10 girdle on my ls block and it took out to much material so Cort decided to go with a GSR block and keep the stock girdle to WITHSTAND more power. There ... I place it into a better sentence for Danny! :thinking: :crazy: :eek:
That little girdle is all personal preference, there are plenty of people making big numbers with out them. What material had to be removed for the z10 girdle to work, its supposed to bolt right up.

[NoPainT]

so uh where are the pics?

[B18c1Turboed]

DANNY,once again. I went with the gsr block FOR THE FUCKING GIRDLE YOU IDIOT! Youre really starting to piss me the fuck off! This is my build not yours...SO DONT WORRY about wtf I do with it. All I do know is Im not SCARED to go fast down the track you fat pussy! lmao

Scared? HAHA.. let me see i have went too one race the WHOLE year,1st pass i made it too the 1/8 mile and blew charge pipe. Then Bee asked to drive the car wich he did and the car lost all power,becasue the ground cable being sucked up.So after that i made 2 more passes with weak ass power due to no turbo. So yea im really scared considering i only drove the car one time doen the track with semi power until the 1/8 mile... Last year i ran the car untuned the WHOLE year,so the powerband sucked.YOu werent saying i was scared when u where driving 3 hours just too see me make a test and tune pass!!!


And one more thing...theyre the SAME sleeves idiot!

The 1st block had
BLOCK:
Exospeed opendeck sleeves
SuperTech 81.5mm pistons
Full-Race(Manley) TurboTuff rods
ITR crank

The block now has
BLOCK:
b18c1 w/ 81.5mm Darton sleeves


YOu might ask why i ask about the block well dont you remember this post you made

Quote:
Originally Posted by PurpleGodzilla
You do know that the Exospeed (RS machine sleeves) is rated only for 600whp right?




wrong bud. cortney green has been running these sleeves for the past 2 seasons 800+whp. he runs consistent 9's at the track. http://forums.importatlanta.com/images/smilies/orly.gif

the sleeves i have are the exact same as benson sleeved blocks. http://forums.importatlanta.com/images/smilies/goodjob.gif

http://exospeed.com/products.php?prod_id=79



you fat pussy!
Shit your girl wasnt saying that when she kept looking at me all night! But as the night got later and later she got uglier and uglier!!

[Vteckidd]

Regardless if the build changed or not:

LS block will make MORE power than a GSR, so whoever told you that was WRONG.

89mm Stroke> GSR. youll make more power an more TQ.

If you wanted the girdle, then yeah, i would have just run the ERL girdle, but if you feel more comfortable with an OEM girdle, thats fine. i personally think the girdle is worthless. especially with a twin disk clutch.

I still find it VERY hard to beleive youll make anything over 800whp with only 81.5mm more. its still a 1.8l. thats ALOT of power for that small of a motor.

good luck

[Z33_kid]

kewl

[2.0civic]

Scared? HAHA.. let me see i have went too one race the WHOLE year,1st pass i made it too the 1/8 mile and blew charge pipe. Then Bee asked to drive the car wich he did and the car lost all power,becasue the ground cable being sucked up.So after that i made 2 more passes with weak ass power due to no turbo. So yea im really scared considering i only drove the car one time doen the track with semi power until the 1/8 mile... Last year i ran the car untuned the WHOLE year,so the powerband sucked.YOu werent saying i was scared when u where driving 3 hours just too see me make a test and tune pass!!!



The 1st block had
BLOCK:
Exospeed opendeck sleeves
SuperTech 81.5mm pistons
Full-Race(Manley) TurboTuff rods
ITR crank

The block now has
BLOCK:
b18c1 w/ 81.5mm Darton sleeves


YOu might ask why i ask about the block well dont you remember this post you made

Quote:
Originally Posted by PurpleGodzilla
You do know that the Exospeed (RS machine sleeves) is rated only for 600whp right?







Shit your girl wasnt saying that when she kept looking at me all night! But as the night got later and later she got uglier and uglier!!


damn i thought i was the only one who notcied the different sleeves

[1insaneR]

who cares this thread is pointless untill he is racing down the strip

[josh green]

There again the LS block yeilds no more power than a gsr. The Crank is what makes the difference, and honestly, compairing dynos there is little difference IF any from the use of the LS crank over the GSR.

[v8killr]

Regardless if the build changed or not:

LS block will make MORE power than a GSR, so whoever told you that was WRONG.

89mm Stroke> GSR. youll make more power an more TQ.

If you wanted the girdle, then yeah, i would have just run the ERL girdle, but if you feel more comfortable with an OEM girdle, thats fine. i personally think the girdle is worthless. especially with a twin disk clutch.

I still find it VERY hard to beleive youll make anything over 800whp with only 81.5mm more. its still a 1.8l. thats ALOT of power for that small of a motor.

good luck

The guy that told me has been doing this since you were born...lol!

And besides...I dont even have GSR Stroke...its ITR remember.

And as far as the sleeves...Exospeed=Darton.

Thanks guys, Picsup a little bit later. Had a problem last night but the engine is going in right now.

WILL KEEP YOU ALL POSTED!!!

P.S. 800+whp has been accomplished on 81.5mm bore before ... LOOKUP this name on H-T .... boosted_hybrid I belive is his name. He made A LOT MORE then 800whp OFF the bottle. :crazy:

[Vteckidd]

The guy that told me has been doing this since you were born...lol!

And besides...I dont even have GSR Stroke...its ITR remember.





Joe with all due respect, i really dont give a shit who has been doing this or for how long, you cant argue the laws of mathmatics.

Im 25 years old, so i HIGHLY doubt in 1981 there was anyone making over 150whp in a HONDA CIVIC LIRL. hell, 3 years ago no one was making over 800whp.

FYI= GSR crank is the EXACT SAME STROKE as a ITR. The only difference is the ITR has more counterweights than the GSR.

89mm stroke from the LS will make more power, no replacement for discplacement. Bigger stroke means more power per less psi of boost.

again, ill be VERY impressed to see it make over 800whp on a 81.5mm bore, you have your work cut out for you.

good luck

[v8killr]

it will...with ease. im going for a little bit more then that...you might be suprised.

[4DRGSR]

screw it just by the dart tall deck 2.1l(actually works out to be 2.3~l) built block we have one here in augusta in a buddys hatch...no problem with power and the displacement issue is not a problem...just lots of $$$$$...he's sunk over 9 grand so far....precision 67(custom backhousing) ,1600cc injectors,fullrace manifold,type-r head built by jg engine dynamics,hondata full setup with wide band,etc...numbers with the precision 61 were 450~500 low boost.....but now it should be 800-900~ as promised...not sure on that but thats the best guess so far...btw call jg engine dynamics...the owner says oil squirters are a waste of time/money.....just slows down the rotating mass......they know what they are talking about.....good luck with the swap/install...hope you make good numbers

[RiceBoy]

sorry, I will have to copy a quote from PurpleGodzilla...

"you do know that OBX LSD can't handle 800 whp, right"?????

[HiPSI]

sorry, I will have to copy a quote from PurpleGodzilla...

"you do know that OBX LSD can't handle 800 whp, right"?????


shhhhhhh, just let the inevitable happen then point and laugh.

[v8killr]

shhhhhhh, just let the inevitable happen then point and laugh.

Theres a dude on honda-tech thats been runnning one of them now for 3 years and it hasnt broke. I believe his name it boosted_hybrid. Ask him about his OBX diff. He has put down over 800whp on 81.5mm bore also. So why do people keep saying it cant be done WHEN its already been done...lol!

[Vteckidd]

hybrid hatch made over 800whp for like 2 years with it, his name is David.

but he is one of the FEW that have NOT had problems with the Diff.

[v8killr]

Anyways, Here is where I am sitting at as of right now. Got the engine installed and the turbo/manifold mocked up for a few pics...:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a286/joepiscapo_83/SIMG0002.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a286/joepiscapo_83/SIMG0006-1.jpg

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:taun:

[2.0civic]

LINKS TO PROOF??

[v8killr]

hybrid hatch made over 800whp for like 2 years with it, his name is David.

but he is one of the FEW that have NOT had problems with the Diff.

Oh well...I guess Ill be one of the few. If not.Ill have a backup tranny with a better diff. I am done with the OBX diff conversation!!! :boobies:

[v8killr]

LINKS TO PROOF??

Links to what????

[Vteckidd]

Oh well...I guess Ill be one of the few. If not.Ill have a backup tranny with a better diff. I am done with the OBX diff conversation!!! :boobies:
well i just think its funny that you spent all this money on crazy manifold, big baller turbo, AEM,etc then cheap out with an OBX diff instead of a QUAIFFE, but to each his own.

if money was a factor, i would get the OBX diff, cause if it breaks, you can buy another one an still be cheaper than a quaiffe. but anyone wanting to be competitive id still run a name brand thats proven.

Seems like you got the tilton thing taken care of that you were asking me aobut earlier.

when are you gonna shoot to have it tuned?

[v8killr]

well i just think its funny that you spent all this money on crazy manifold, big baller turbo, AEM,etc then cheap out with an OBX diff instead of a QUAIFFE, but to each his own.

if money was a factor, i would get the OBX diff, cause if it breaks, you can buy another one an still be cheaper than a quaiffe. but anyone wanting to be competitive id still run a name brand thats proven.

Seems like you got the tilton thing taken care of that you were asking me aobut earlier.

when are you gonna shoot to have it tuned?

Yea I got the pilot bearing issue fixed..lol! It was the wrong one! LOL

Im aiming to having this thing running and on the streets by next week and then tuned in a month or so. In the mean time I can street tune it to 20or so pounds of boost. And 25psi should be right at 650whp...haha! Should be good times!!! ;)

[RiceBoy]

if money was a factor, i would get the OBX diff, cause if it breaks, you can buy another one an still be cheaper than a quaiffe. but anyone wanting to be competitive id still run a name brand thats proven.



Well, that is if you only talking about the OBX..But when it breaks, it usually takes something with it..i.e. gears, cases, etc...Know what I mean...A good unmolested, no grind GSR tranny in good condition, if you can find one are 600-800..

[RiceBoy]

How about axles..You got good axles? IF not, I do have a stage 5 DSS for sale...:D..Shoot, to think of it. I GOT A LOT OF SHIET TO SALE....AEM CDI or MSD DIS 2 for your AEM EMS system. With the AEM, you should be running individual coil.. Because I can assure you, that your engine will be missing at 800whp on a stock DIZZY AND 6AL. If you are lucky, you might get one clean run with it.

[RiceBoy]

Man, you know I can sit here and give you inputs all day long. You might not like it but I presume thats what you wanted since you made the post...

Here is another one..68mm...you should have went with a 70mm or mustang Throttle body, they are about the same prices. It doens't make sense to use large intercooler pipings when you are limited to the size of the inlet and outlets of the Precision intercooler of being smaller and then jam it into a 68mm throttle body.

[v8killr]

Thanks and I might be interested in the ignition items you have for my AEM EMS!!! Please email me pics to [email protected] ok???

[green91]

Well someone on honda-tech said you are full of shit. Wait why are you relying on a forum to back up what your engine "is going to do"?

[v8killr]

Well someone on honda-tech said you are full of shit. Wait why are you relying on a forum to back up what your engine "is going to do"?

Ive seen several dynos with this exact setup(VERY similar anyways) and I know how the engine will perform. What exactly are you stating? So what if someone says Im full of shit...maybe I am!

[Whitebandit]

My eyes have crossed reading this thread.:blah: