Which Car should i go for???

[91DSM]

SRT 4
http://www.edmunds.com/media/roadtests/comparison/2003/econosport/03.dodge.srt4.f34.500.jpg
http://www.motordesktop.com/wallpaper/sportscars/Dodge%20SRT4%202003%20-%201024x768.jpg

Colbalt SS
http://www.gmcanada.com/images/vehicles/2006/chevrolet/cobalt/chev_coba_mode_05_main.jpg
http://www.uga.edu/pse/gmmi/Cobalt_SS.jpg

MazdaSpeed3
http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2006_geneva/mazda/mazdaspeed3/images/01.jpg
http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2006_geneva/mazda/mazdaspeed3/images/03.jpg

Or which ever year Wrx wagon or non
http://subaru.com.au/explore/impreza/images/2006/exterior/sedan_wrx_5a20.jpg
http://members.aol.com/cky211/wrx_02.jpg

Let me know what ya think:goodjob:

[aaronfelipe]

Subaru

[91DSM]

I should had did a poll for this but i dont know how

[13Bracer]

wrx all the way:goodjob:

[JITB]

Mazdaspeed3.. it outdid the wrx on the track... and it scored better overall .. the only category the wrx won in was the 0-60... but the ms3 is a really quick car.

[91DSM]

Mazdaspeed3.. it outdid the wrx on the track... and it scored better overall .. the only category the wrx won in was the 0-60... but the ms3 is a really quick car.

Thats why im considering it because i also heard it was qiuicker plus for $22,000 you get hids bose stereo and all dat fancy shit i wont use lol

[UpSideDownDesi]

Mazdaspeed3...it looses in 0-60, but quiclky catches up and show's WRX it's tails. If you gonna get WRX might as well save up for STI.

[JITB]

Thats why im considering it because i also heard it was qiuicker plus for $22,000 you get hids bose stereo and all dat fancy shit i wont use lol


yea they are cheap, but u should look into the mazdaspeed6's also they are even cheaper.. they go for 20k all day long. Since they are about to change the body style, they are tyrin to get rid of them. hell of a deal.. on both. a few ppl have test drove the Ms3's and said they are really really quick.. it even outperforms the MS6 as well, i think mazda shot themselves in the foot maybe..lol

[91DSM]

yea they are cheap, but u should look into the mazdaspeed6's also they are even cheaper.. they go for 20k all day long. Since they are about to change the body style, they are tyrin to get rid of them. hell of a deal.. on both. a few ppl have test drove the Ms3's and said they are really really quick.. it even outperforms the MS6 as well, i think mazda shot themselves in the foot maybe..lol

Then i might check both out

[91DSM]

Mazdaspeed3...it looses in 0-60, but quiclky catches up and show's WRX it's tails. If you gonna get WRX might as well save up for STI.

How you tink the wrx vs ms3 do with each other on the highway

[UpSideDownDesi]

MS3 will own it. From a dig WRX will take the MS3, but by 3rd gear MS3 will have WRX, but all comes down to driver.

[Flip]

I'm slightly biased but go for the WRX!!! :)

[R_Rated]

MS3 FTW

[Nemesis]

WRX. It wont take much in terms of modding for it to take the 3. Plus the WRX already has a pronounced aftermarket, as the 3 will take a year or so to have parts that dont cost an arm and leg to upgrade with.

Get an 04/05, or maybe the 06s with higher displacement.

I plan on keeping my Wagon forever, and in the next year or so picking up an STI.

Lets have that precious Mazda3 run a simple Stage 2 WRX and see where it stands :rolleyes:

[N/A EK]

Wrx FTW.

[Halfwit]

WRX HAS EASIER/ BETTER POTENTIAL.. what do u want in the end? just a stock car, or building it for auto x/ drag/ all around ect?
ftw VV


WRX. It wont take much in terms of modding for it to take the 3. Plus the WRX already has a pronounced aftermarket, as the 3 will take a year or so to have parts that dont cost an arm and leg to upgrade with.

Get an 04/05, or maybe the 06s with higher displacement.

I plan on keeping my Wagon forever, and in the next year or so picking up an STI.

Lets have that precious Mazda3 run a simple Stage 2 WRX and see where it stands :rolleyes:

[JITB]

WRX. It wont take much in terms of modding for it to take the 3. Plus the WRX already has a pronounced aftermarket, as the 3 will take a year or so to have parts that dont cost an arm and leg to upgrade with.

Get an 04/05, or maybe the 06s with higher displacement.

I plan on keeping my Wagon forever, and in the next year or so picking up an STI.

Lets have that precious Mazda3 run a simple Stage 2 WRX and see where it stands :rolleyes:


can the stage 2 wrx keep up with a 06/07 wrx with the ej25?

[Nemesis]

can the stage 2 wrx keep up with a 06/07 wrx with the ej25?


Ive beaten a stock 06/07 with no problem, and had room to push more.

[92tegracer07]

Ive beaten a stock 06/07 with no problem, and had room to push more.

:hitit:

[Frög]

WRX!

[97WhYt_TeG]

WRX:goodjob:

[atl300zx]

WRX!!!

[kfzemx3]

MS3 newer sexier little car, and your not gonna see to many of them on the road!


AND FOR THE RECORD :) Mazdaspeed and Mazda Motorsports (same company) already have aftermarket parts available :)

[iloveboost]

WRX. I suggest just saving up more money for the STi, though. You'll be much, much happier in the end. Brembo brakes, nice 6 disk changer, nice interior, gauge cluster, indestructable transmission and stronger engine.

[Nemesis]

MS3 newer sexier little car, and your not gonna see to many of them on the road!


AND FOR THE RECORD :) Mazdaspeed and Mazda Motorsports (same company) already have aftermarket parts available :)


Give it a year or so, im sure theyll be common.


Of course Mazdaspeed and Mazda Motorsports has aftermarket parts available. :screwy: Why wouldnt they? Im talking about third party aftermarket. ;)

[devin]

wrx

[91DSM]

so right now the srt and cobalt is out. its a battle between the wrx and or ms3.

[91DSM]

WRX HAS EASIER/ BETTER POTENTIAL.. what do u want in the end? just a stock car, or building it for auto x/ drag/ all around ect?
ftw VV

Im mostly going for highway rolls:D realy i jus want to go fast if you know what i mean

[2.0civic]

GET THE SUBY....

[JITB]

Give it a year or so, im sure theyll be common.


Of course Mazdaspeed and Mazda Motorsports has aftermarket parts available. :screwy: Why wouldnt they? Im talking about third party aftermarket. ;)

the mzr motor has been out for about a year, with the MS6.. there is plenty of aftermarket for it already. lightwqeight forged wheels - supsension upgrades, already available.. for the ms3 from mazda.. :goodjob: and with theMS3 u will have soemtihng fresh and new to play with.. :
nemesis y u care u drive a 2.5rs...lol :lmfao:

motor trend also said that the only car that will give the ms3 comp in the future will be the caliber srt4 as far as power wise. I think tho i would get the MS6, its cheaper and AWD.. unless u go to japan and get the awd ms3...lol

[bigdare23]

The SS gets my vote LOL

[fox]

Save up for an STi. :D

[91DSM]

Save up for an STi. :D

Man for me to drive off in an sti i need at least 3Gs

[fox]

Did your call sell yet?

[BlkCD5]

It just depends what you're looking for. If you get the ms3 and mod it, we'll just have another high powered tractionless Fwd car on the road. At least with the suby, you'll have some room. I'd wait and see how well the Ms3's sell and what people think of them. The first year production cars always have some minor shit that goes wrong w/ them.

[Kamikaze]

Mazdaspeed3 FTW. :goodjob:

[jblaudio06]

wrx all the way.....i like the chevy 2

[Kyle]

WRX without a doubt. Drive one and you will agree. I had my doubts but they are fast as shit!

[Kyle]

Oh yeah why does everyone always reply to wrx by saying oh get an sti. It's not that easy STI's are a lot more expensive. It's like saying "hey guys I want a fiat", "no dude get a ferarri"

(Not that it is an exact parallel but you get the point)

[91DSM]

Did your call sell yet?

Yea i sold her now i need to save up for one of these

[91DSM]

wrx all the way.....i like the chevy 2

The thing is that ive realy havent seen that many moded ss. unlike the wrx and the srt 4

[Nemesis]

If you ever catch me at a meet or something, Ill take ya for a ride or something.

Have you driven or ridden in a modded rex Wagon?

[91DSM]

If you ever catch me at a meet or something, Ill take ya for a ride or something.

Have you driven or ridden in a modded rex Wagon?

ive never been in a modded wrx/wagon but i was realy thinking about a wagon

[Nemesis]

ive never been in a modded wrx/wagon but i was realy thinking about a wagon


Only 80lbs more, and more practical :D

Have not regretted my purchase at all. Im lightly modded. Only about 1500 in mods. Stage II currently.

[91DSM]

ive seen a couple around here. i love that sound from the exhaust. the problem is how much i need down inorder to drive of in one of those because there pretty expensive

[JITB]

and thats why u should just get the MS3... or the MS6... :) dont let george mess ur head up..with that subbie talk.

263hp/280 tq.. stock, it has a electronic system in the ms3, to prevent torquesteer. but it is Fwd.. so go tot he Jim ellis mazda and go get u a Ms6 for 20k..

[Nemesis]

dont let george mess ur head up..with that subbie talk.
.



:lmao: :slap:

[JITB]

:lmao: :slap:

ah get on AIM.. how the hell did u get banned on NECO again.....hahah

[phongt12]

AWD > FWD!!! i wish i was in your shoes.

[1439/2000]

FWD is lame. Get a 91dsm. AWD and cheap. LOL

[kfzemx3]

FWD is lame. Get a 91dsm. AWD and cheap. LOL


Screw that if we're going older car go MAZDA AWD 323 GTR :)

[Evil Goat]

subie

[91DSM]

FWD is lame. Get a 91dsm. AWD and cheap. LOL

Im done with the 4g63 :(

[fox]

Oh yeah why does everyone always reply to wrx by saying oh get an sti. It's not that easy STI's are a lot more expensive. It's like saying "hey guys I want a fiat", "no dude get a ferarri"

(Not that it is an exact parallel but you get the point)
Horrible comparison. You should've kept it to yourself.

A STi is not an impossibility.


AWD is lame. Get a 91dsm. AWD and cheap. LOL
So true.

[GTScoob]

Go for the WRX. You can find 02s for around 12K, you could spend the extra money on an STI shortblock and a 6speed swap and still should have another 4K for other mods. Wagon or sedan they're great practical cars.

The MS3 looks really nice but high HP and FWD should never go together. I'd definately take one over an SRT-4.

[Kyle]

Do you not have a 5 speed?

[Kyle]

Horrible comparison. You should've kept it to yourself.

A STi is not an impossibility.


I get told everytime I say I want a WRX to get an STI. The insurance has to be like $5K a year. And when people point towards a car that is like $8K more than you want to pay I consider it an impossibility.

[tpatt04]

SRT 4

[benwaballs]

Only 80lbs more, and more practical :D

Have not regretted my purchase at all. Im lightly modded. Only about 1500 in mods. Stage II currently.


x2

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y124/benwaballs/Picture003.jpg

[umairejaz]

WRX:goodjob:

you have the best looking delso i have ever seen, saw it last night at the V. Its nice.

[GTScoob]

I get told everytime I say I want a WRX to get an STI. The insurance has to be like $5K a year. And when people point towards a car that is like $8K more than you want to pay I consider it an impossibility.

It's all up to what you want out of the car; if you want to make serious HP just start with the STI. If you want to make around 300whp the WRX is fine but at those levels the engine and tranny are both reaching failure points.

[Kyle]

Huh.. Failure points.. How so? Even with the newer transmission from 2004-up

[GTScoob]

Huh.. Failure points.. How so? Even with the newer transmission from 2004-up

Piston rings are weak on the EJ20, they can handle a lot of midrange boost but not upper RPM boost. The tranny is a mixed bag, some people have blown them up on stock cars and some people have run 350whp through them with no problems. 02s have notoriously weaker trannies than other years, 06s have the strongest gears. Personally I dont like the ratios on stock WRX 5speeds I've driven; 1-3 are fine but then the gap into 4th gear drops you way out of the powerband.

[91DSM]

Horrible comparison. You should've kept it to yourself.

A STi is not an impossibility.


So true.

I know its a bad question but how much down do you think i need inorder to drive off in an sti? knowing my newbie Credit? i would love an sti the problem is insurance even though i have my mom for cosigning

[CHADbee]

Lets have that precious Mazda3 run a simple Stage 2 WRX and see where it stands :rolleyes:
it would rape u, just like my neon did....ooooooohhhh!!!! :D

[Kyle]

I hope we are kidding that a Mazda 3 could beat a WRX. Stage Two would rape it.

[iloveboost]

For an $8,000 difference in price, you have to think of what you get.

An extra 100hp out of the box, Brembos, MUCH nicer interior, 6 disk changer, Defi gauge cluster, virtually indestructible drivetrain, nice wheels, better suspension, strong block, HIDs, and better styling.

If you can't afford it, then you just can't afford it.

You have to ask yourself what you really want. If it doesn't plan on seeing more than 300awhp, you'll be fine with the WRX. Anything much higher than that and you're begging to start breaking parts. If you plan on doing extensive modding/upgrading, there's no comparison for the price.

[JITB]

I hope we are kidding that a Mazda 3 could beat a WRX. Stage Two would rape it.

the ms3 did beat the 07 wrx on the track.. by 2 seconds i believe, and in every other category except the 0-60. the only cars they compare it to is the wrx b/c it is soo much better than the others in its class (civic-gti-ss-srt4). the ms3 makes as much as the stage2 makes(power wise).. But i mean if ur gonna get technical put a stage 2 ms3 and a stage 2 wrx against each other. stock v. stock is as fair a race as it will get.

if u want the awd, id say go with the MS6 its cheaper than the ms3 and u could prob find a 06 Mazdaspeed 6 fully loaded for about the same as a Ms3. BUt if u want a wrx..i think u could maybe find a used EVO, for maybe around 20-21k. But since u had a awd dsm, u prob are tiredo f lookin at the 4g63... wrx's are pretty cheap these days.. and are nice cars. but im a mazda person..

SOoooo



GET A Mazdaspeed3 :goodjob:

[91DSM]

the ms3 did beat the 07 wrx on the track.. by 2 seconds i believe, and in every other category except the 0-60. the only cars they compare it to is the wrx b/c it is soo much better than the others in its class (civic-gti-ss-srt4). the ms3 makes as much as the stage2 makes(power wise).. But i mean if ur gonna get technical put a stage 2 ms3 and a stage 2 wrx against each other. stock v. stock is as fair a race as it will get.

if u want the awd, id say go with the MS6 its cheaper than the ms3 and u could prob find a 06 Mazdaspeed 6 fully loaded for about the same as a Ms3. BUt if u want a wrx..i think u could maybe find a used EVO, for maybe around 20-21k. But since u had a awd dsm, u prob are tiredo f lookin at the 4g63... wrx's are pretty cheap these days.. and are nice cars. but im a mazda person..

SOoooo



GET A Mazdaspeed3 :goodjob:

i only have 2gs for down so i have 2 do what ever i can with that

[JITB]

i only have 2gs for down so i have 2 do what ever i can with that


if u got ur mom cosigning, that 2g's should be enough to get a 22k car...

[91DSM]

But the thing is she has bad credit

[JITB]

But the thing is she has bad credit

im not sure how much taht matters, but the bank prob wont care.. they see it like this they have 2 people to suck money from, if u cant pay it she might be able to.. thats all they really care about. But u would be suprised, on what the dealer will sale u. But also shop around.. hate to buy something u dont want to pay for after a year or so.

[CHADbee]

u might wanna also check into how much mods are for each car.

[SilverJester]

I say Srt4 then wrx (in that order) don't bother with the rest.

[91DSM]

im not sure how much taht matters, but the bank prob wont care.. they see it like this they have 2 people to suck money from, if u cant pay it she might be able to.. thats all they really care about. But u would be suprised, on what the dealer will sale u. But also shop around.. hate to buy something u dont want to pay for after a year or so.

Agree:goodjob:

[91DSM]

u might wanna also check into how much mods are for each car.

Thats also something i will do:goodjob:

[91DSM]

ok so between the srt the wrx and the ss exclude the ms3. What are the defects on each? i see that the wrx have weak trannys and weak piston rings is that it?? Are there any problems with the srt4 or the ss? I havent really read anything bad on the srt4 and the ss. But of course i havent seen any modded ss out there. Also out of the three which one is cheaper to mod?

Thanks in advance:goodjob:

[Ericp]

well it sorta depends on what your plans are. Do you want to go for more of a straight line car or a car that's good in the twisies? SRT4 is the fastest from a roll. If you decided SRT-4 there tons of easy cheap mods that give you great power. Also make sure it's an 04 or 05, 03's have smaller injectors and no LSD. WRX's are quick as well. They will out handle a SRT easily. Not sure on the price to power ratio for the parts available. The new MazdaSpeed 3 is nice as well. Pretty quick too. The only problem you'll probably have is it's a new car and they're probably not to many parts available for them yet but I could be wrong. Good luck on your decision and make sure it's what you like :goodjob:

[91DSM]

well it sorta depends on what your plans are. Do you want to go for more of a straight line car or a car that's good in the twisies? SRT4 is the fastest from a roll. If you decided SRT-4 there tons of easy cheap mods that give you great power. Also make sure it's an 04 or 05, 03's have smaller injectors and no LSD. WRX's are quick as well. They will out handle a SRT easily. Not sure on the price to power ratio for the parts available. The new MazdaSpeed 3 is nice as well. Pretty quick too. The only problem you'll probably have is it's a new car and they're probably not to many parts available for them yet but I could be wrong. Good luck on your decision and make sure it's what you like :goodjob:

wrx has that awd launch that the others dont, but then again how often do we run from a stop? Im looking for something that i can put some cash into and go out to play. so by far im thinking SRT, im thinking that for about the same money amount i can get better gains from a SRT then from a wrx...in my opinion and from what i have seen.

[1439/2000]

Screw that if we're going older car go MAZDA AWD 323 GTR :)


GTR? Or GTX? Hmm...

[iloveboost]

wrx has that awd launch that the others dont, but then again how often do we run from a stop? Im looking for something that i can put some cash into and go out to play. so by far im thinking SRT, im thinking that for about the same money amount i can get better gains from a SRT then from a wrx...in my opinion and from what i have seen.

Just buy Ch@dbee's SRT. It's already modded for the price of a used SRT and his has wheels and all labor done to it.

SRT will get you the best bang for the buck.

[91DSM]

Just buy Ch@dbee's SRT. It's already modded for the price of a used SRT and his has wheels and all labor done to it.

SRT will get you the best bang for the buck.

Does he take payments lol

[iloveboost]

Go to a bank. Your mom's bank might be easier to get financed thru. Tell them you want a car loan, and they'll ask you for all applicable information and see what happens from there.

[Nemesis]

The insurance on an SRT-4 for a kid your age is going to be unreal. Yeah it may be the best bang for your buck, but wait till you see you're premium. :)

The Impreza isnt that far behind it either.

[Ericp]

wrx has that awd launch that the others dont, but then again how often do we run from a stop? Im looking for something that i can put some cash into and go out to play. so by far im thinking SRT, im thinking that for about the same money amount i can get better gains from a SRT then from a wrx...in my opinion and from what i have seen.

Yeah that's why I brought up that the SRT is fastest from a roll cuz most people don't go from stops anymore. I have nothing against any of the other cars. I wish the SRT was AWD cuz FWD is a pain cuz SRTs are notorious for wheel spin/wheel hop. But like I said before they are pretty quick from factory and there are alot of companies that are specific to SRTs and have great parts for a good price. Check out SRTforums.com and look around there to see what you'll be getting into with a SRT. Again good luck on whichever car you choose :goodjob:

[sina518]

john from the allstars is selling there project mazda 3 hatchback that is sponsered by eclipse audio for about 16000, 21000 miles

[JITB]

GTR? Or GTX? Hmm...

GTR of course...nissan isnt the only company carrying the gtr... :gay:

323 gtr has a :vj20 - 210hp
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/355000-355999/355864_6_full.jpg
323 GTX has 180hp
http://www.sturtevant.com/reed/323pics/pappas.jpg

[91DSM]

The insurance on an SRT-4 for a kid your age is going to be unreal. Yeah it may be the best bang for your buck, but wait till you see you're premium. :)

The Impreza isnt that far behind it either.

That is true but thats a risk im willing to take

[JITB]

i thikn u should go test drive them all.. that will make ur mind up quick.

[91DSM]

i thikn u should go test drive them all.. that will make ur mind up quick.

The thing is that the people at these car dealers are assholes. so when i go to a dealer they dont even look at me. espeacially subaru of gwinnett.

[JITB]

The thing is that the people at these car dealers are assholes. so when i go to a dealer they dont even look at me. espeacially subaru of gwinnett.

well than.. i guess ur not buyin a subaru than... :D

[91DSM]

well than.. i guess ur not buyin a subaru than... :D

LOL Might not thursday i have to go check a srt they have for sale at palmer dodge and a 02 wrx at toyota of atlanta might go for one of those

[Kyle]

Yeah that's why I brought up that the SRT is fastest from a roll cuz most people don't go from stops anymore. I have nothing against any of the other cars. I wish the SRT was AWD cuz FWD is a pain cuz SRTs are notorious for wheel spin/wheel hop. But like I said before they are pretty quick from factory and there are alot of companies that are specific to SRTs and have great parts for a good price. Check out SRTforums.com and look around there to see what you'll be getting into with a SRT. Again good luck on whichever car you choose :goodjob:

Good point. I have never thought about it like that. Most rational thing I have read in a while.

[R_Rated]

if all you care about is racing then get a honda hatch for cheap and then swap and boost it. That will be faster from a roll and cheaper.

[Nemesis]

That is true but thats a risk im willing to take


Risk, what are YOU talking about? Its guaranteed. Go talk to your insurance company and see first hand for yourself. :goodjob:

You were born in 1987? On second thought, dont buy a Subaru. Get the Mazda or Dodge. :goodjob:

[4dmin]

it all depends on money your spending... if you wanna go cheap i would just get the srt4 and call it a day... you can do quite a bit w/ those cars for inexpensive; if you want to spend money i would buy wrx or another car not listed such as used: S4 or new 2.0t (but i'm a euro nazi)

[Nemesis]

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Insurance/InsureYourCar/10CostliestCarsToInsure.aspx

[JITB]

i didnt know costiest was a word...lol

[1insaneR]

forget what everyone is saying i have something for you to buy. Dependable fast, cheap insurance (4 door) and reliable

http://forums.importatlanta.com/showthread.php?t=89454

[Nemesis]

Cheap Insurance on an STI for a 19 year old? What the fuck are you smoking? I want some! LOL Or better yet, tell me what insurance company? Oh wait, Safe Auto? hahahahahahhahaha

[Kyle]

forget what everyone is saying i have something for you to buy. Dependable fast, cheap insurance (4 door) and reliable

http://forums.importatlanta.com/showthread.php?t=89454

Will a company even insure someone under 20 in that car at all. If so how much? I know a guy who like 10 years ago the company told him at 18 they wouldn't insure him on a twin turbo 300zx.

[Nemesis]

Will a company even insure someone under 20 in that car at all. If so how much? I know a guy who liek 10 years ago the company told him at 18 they wouldn't insure him on a twin turbo 300zx.


hahaha Yeah I want to know this so called insurance company as well! Shit ill switch tommorrow if a 19 year old can get an STI with cheap insurance. :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:

[HeLLo iM iZzY]

WRX, no doubt.

[91DSM]

ok the car is not going to be under my name its gona be under my moms name. So i think insurance shouldnt be that high? am i right or wrong?

[91DSM]

by the way thanks for who ever did the poll for me:goodjob: :D

[greasemunkey]

wrx with sti turbo injectors and fuel pump, turn up boost /thread

[Tree]

WRX...WRX>>...WRX!!!

[RUFFIAN]

I say the Mazdaspeed 3 because it has the best bang for the buck and it handles the best. It is also the rarest of the group.

[Nikola]

MAZDASPEED 3

[SandM]

talk about re-birthing an old thread

[87 Turbo II]

MAzdaspeed3

it has looks, speed, power, features, and it's a Mazda.

[GuessWho]

The SRT is the fastest car for the cheapest buck man... go with the dodge if ur buyin!!!

[Elbow]

Mazda, different, looks good, Mazda reliability.