MARRY 4 $$$$$$

[JDMJAYDC2]

well long story short a african guy came up to me at work and asked if i could help out a friend of his. he tells me he has a female friend that needs citizenship. and wanted to know if i would marry her for 6 months. and that she would pay me 3k up front and another 2k after the wedding. i said no but called some friends just to see what they would say. to me the money just isnt worth the police action or worse having to look for this random female after 6 months to get her to sign the divorce papers. wanted to know what ia would do if given the same question

[SL65AMG]

lol maybe for 20k.... actually ....fuck that i wouldnt do it

[AlliRae]

interesting..... if i was i guy i would be speechless more than likely

[Wurm]

id take her 3k and then call immigration

[£G2♣]

thats cheap ass fuck dude...go vietnam or asia and do it or any hispanic people they would pay 20-40k for doin it....so this guy is giving u only 5k? that aint worthe it

[twinj]

DANG, for real. Somebody correct me if i am wrong I think someone comes and interview ya'll or something. See whats highest he will go then determaine you answer. But yea i feel ya with trying to find her to sign the papers. I guess it would be easy if you needed the money but when you really don't.

[morelian09]

i know a couple of people who have done that for a bit more then 5k but that is commen with hispanics now a days specialy with all these new laws comming out so its nothing new

[ORGANIZATIONXIII]

:stupid:

[PRiMAdonna]

i wouldnt do it.

[bigdare23]

never know, she could be a dime???

[EvasiveEF9]

Divorce her on the 5month mark. :)

[Julio]

lol @ 5k... is usually around 8 to 10 k. Africans always trying to rip people off..

Now, if they are only saying 6 month then go ahead and do it for the 5 k.. they are idiots, In GA you need to be married atleast 2 years before all the papers can be finalized. I think after 6 month to a year you get a working permit or something..
But if you get caught you are fuck and in a ugly boat.

[MR. 200SX]

I wouldn't do it unless is someone that you know for a long time and that you know they ain't going to be a disgrace to this country. Getting married is not the problem you actually have to live and know the person to a point that it is like a real marriage. In the interview they will take you apart and ask you personal marital questions. You also need proof that you are really married like bank statements with both of you in the account, bills, house, etc.

If you ever plan to help someone in that situation at least let it be someone who is going to be a benefit to this country and someone that is not going to screw you over the time. Remember that in a case of divorce we the men always lose.

[Annihilation]

Upside BANG BANG BANG for 6 months, if not Divorce :)

[Hektik]

5k damn u should have hit dude in the mouth. that shit goes for atleast 10k and thats depending on how long u have known the person. about the interview most people dont even get an interview. but if they do interview u u better know ur shit. plus imagine if the female ended up being ugly as all hell then ur stuck married to an ugly ass chick for 5k. plus if u get caught ur in deep shit. not worth it unless u know the person well.

[EvasiveEF9]

If you ever plan to help someone in that situation at least let it be someone who is going to be a benefit to this country and someone that is not going to screw you over the time. Remember that in a case of divorce we the men always lose.
x2

[GIXXERDK]

If you really want to get married for the money, go ask a vietnamese family. My ex's aunt offered me $40k to go to vietnam and marry this girl and bring her to the states. Only down side is, the paper work may take up to a year or more.

[HeLLo iM iZzY]

Fuck that, dont take the risk.

[Hulud]

and religious people think marriage is a sacred thing
:lmfao:

[imbosile]

seems like easy money, but there are serious risks involved. i'd say no

[ShooterMcGavin]

marriage is not natural, ask me about it :goodjob: :D

[Hulud]

werd

its only for tax purposes, nationality and insurance

[ShooterMcGavin]

^^^and bitches do it for the ring, not to mention legal entitlement to your life and your shit :D

[Marty]

If you really want to get married for the money, go ask a vietnamese family. My ex's aunt offered me $40k to go to vietnam and marry this girl and bring her to the states. Only down side is, the paper work may take up to a year or more.


+1 I have had 2 close friends do this...

[SLOWLYbtngU]

5K is nothing...Umm say no and find somebody else...I have a couple of friends that got married out of love and not for money and their husbands have yet to get their citizenship. One of the couples has been married for 10yrs....

Be careful, make sure that the person already has the story set out...You guys are gonna need pictures and proof of a courtship...Better start emailing or something...Not to mention that for one of the interview processes one of my friends was asked how long they have known each other and even though they have been together for a while the guy thought it was suspicious that they couldnt agree on a date...So yeah....

Dont do it!!! :no: Especially not for 5K...Fuck that...

[BTEC]

id do it for 375.

[TeeJay]

^^^and bitches do it for the ring, not to mention legal entitlement to your life and your shit :D
TRUEST shit i read all day...plus at that said interview, they will interrogate the hell outta your ass, trust me...my mom used to work with a lady who did that, but she was really in love and didnt do it just for the citizenship...they take the couple into separate rooms and ask them questions about their sex life, what color draws each other wears, what color are the sheets on the bed, all kinds of crazy shit you wouldnt think about. to make a long story short, DONT DO IT...especially for 5k, wtf

[SLOWLYbtngU]

^^^Then get married for real, cuz all of the headaches u are gonna go thru are gonna way surpass the 375....

Menat for BTEC...Teejay beat me posting...

[Ed]

its not for 6 months only. you would need to stay married for at least two years, cuz if you get divorced within 6 months they will come after both of you. and 5k is what the price range is today. my boss is a "paralegal" and does this so i have an idea of whats going on.

[BTEC]

^^^Then get married for real, cuz all of the headaches u are gonna go thru are gonna way surpass the 375....

Menat for BTEC...Teejay beat me posting...
i guess u dnt want ur green card. :dunno:

[Bballjamal]

I wish someone would want me to marry some hot ass latina for some bread......

fuck the paperwork! :crazy:

[The Golden Child]

5G .. LOLZ !!!

going rate is 10G - 20G if they are paying more its used for the 2 - 3 years of marraige to live comfortably ..

couple of my friends have done this and got paid 40G up front and married for 3 years and divorced ..

one of my friends actually is still with the person going on 6 years ..

anyway yea 5G id wipe my asshole with it and throw it at the mother fuckers face ..

[BTEC]

5G .. LOLZ !!!

going rate is 10G - 20G if they are paying more its used for the 2 - 3 years of marraige to live comfortably ..

couple of my friends have done this and got paid 40G up front and married for 3 years and divorced ..

one of my friends actually is still with the person going on 6 years ..

anyway yea 5G id wipe my asshole with it and throw it at the mother fuckers face ..
SO U HAVE TO BE OF ASIAN DESCENT TO KNOW WHAT THE GOING RATE IS FOR THIS TYPE OF STUFF OR DO U HAVE UR OWN IMPORT BISUNESS? LOL!!!

[The Golden Child]

SO U HAVE TO BE OF ASIAN DESCENT TO KNOW WHAT THE GOING RATE IS FOR THIS TYPE OF STUFF OR DO U HAVE UR OWN IMPORT BISUNESS? LOL!!!

im not saying you have to be asian to know this but if some says ill give you 5g to marry someone would you ??

i wouldnt ill laugh at him and say $15000 plus all expense paid ..

[BluesClues]

I say hell no!!!! Let them earn their citizenship just like everyone else damnit!!! I tired of dealing with these damn freeloading ass muthafuckers anyway


That is all

[Ed]

lol the freeloading motherfuckers built your home, your floor, your plumbing, seriously, white people or even most black people do not wanna do this job. everybody always hates on mexicans not payin taxes and all, but i know a lot of people (immigrants) that do pay their taxes with a tax id... while some of you dont even bother to pay or wanna "freeload" on welfare... 0.02... lol

[SLOWLYbtngU]

i guess u dnt want ur green card. :dunno:
Ummm.....Who are u talking to? My nikka I am LEGAL....Still a spic, but legal....People pay me to get their citizenship... :goodjob:

[Leisa]

^^^and bitches do it for the ring, not to mention legal entitlement to your life and your shit :D


:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: hmmmmmmmmmm

[BTEC]

Ummm.....Who are u talking to? My nikka I am LEGAL....Still a spic, but legal....People pay me to get their citizenship... :goodjob:
LOL!!! I WAS TRYING TO MAKE IT SOUND LIKE U WANTED TO JUMP THE BROOM WITH ME BUT AGAIN U RUINED MY JOKE. SO WHAT DO U CHARGE FOR CITIZENSHIP

[SLOWLYbtngU]

lol the freeloading motherfuckers built your home, your floor, your plumbing, seriously, white people or even most black people do not wanna do this job. everybody always hates on mexicans not payin taxes and all, but i know a lot of people (immigrants) that do pay their taxes with a tax id... while some of you dont even bother to pay or wanna "freeload" on welfare... 0.02... lol
+1 to u...

I hate when people make remarks and dont look at all sides of the story...Jamese u are intitled to your opinion but you should probably also take into consideration that not all immigrants 1)know the "process" 2)"freeload" 3)some do pay taxes 4)Contribute a whole hell lot of shit to our community...

Love u girl but that remark struck a cord and in the end sounded ignorant.

[SLOWLYbtngU]

LOL!!! I WAS TRYING TO MAKE IT SOUND LIKE U WANTED TO JUMP THE BROOM WITH ME BUT AGAIN U RUINED MY JOKE. SO WHAT DO U CHARGE FOR CITIZENSHIP
I have never done it...I believe in the sanctity of marriage...I believe in getting married once and for true love..nothing else will suffice.


I have been offered 23K, 30K, the cheapest was 15K....Just cant do it...

[BluesClues]

lol the freeloading motherfuckers built your home, your floor, your plumbing, seriously, white people or even most black people do not wanna do this job. everybody always hates on mexicans not payin taxes and all, but i know a lot of people (immigrants) that do pay their taxes with a tax id... while some of you dont even bother to pay or wanna "freeload" on welfare... 0.02... lol
Did I say anything about mexicans? :no: Ok then. I am talking about those who come into America illegally in general whether they be mexican, african, russian, german, etc. Oh and about who built my house. We have "american citizens" who are capable and willing to do the job.

[BTEC]

I have never done it...I believe in the sanctity of marriage...I believe in getting married once and for true love..nothing else will suffice.


I have been offered 23K, 30K, the cheapest was 15K....Just cant do it...
SAVING URSELF THE A REAL G I SEE. THATS WHAT I LIKE TO HEAR.

[BluesClues]

LOL!!! I WAS TRYING TO MAKE IT SOUND LIKE U WANTED TO JUMP THE BROOM WITH ME BUT AGAIN U RUINED MY JOKE. SO WHAT DO U CHARGE FOR CITIZENSHIP
Over my motherfuckin dead body!!!!!!

[BluesClues]

+1 to u...

I hate when people make remarks and dont look at all sides of the story...Jamese u are intitled to your opinion but you should probably also take into consideration that not all immigrants 1)know the "process" 2)"freeload" 3)some do pay taxes 4)Contribute a whole hell lot of shit to our community...

Love u girl but that remark struck a cord and in the end sounded ignorant.
People who come into the u.s illegally are freeloaders. They have to earn their citizenship just like everyone else. They should not be able to pay someone for marriage just to sneak around the system. Now like I said I did not say anything about Mexicans. I am just talking about any race in general. Now take it how you want. That is you all's personal problem

[BTEC]

Over my motherfuckin dead body!!!!!!
SAY UR PRAYERS BC U WILL BLEED B4 SUNSET.

[Ed]

+1 to u...

I hate when people make remarks and dont look at all sides of the story...Jamese u are intitled to your opinion but you should probably also take into consideration that not all immigrants 1)know the "process" 2)"freeload" 3)some do pay taxes 4)Contribute a whole hell lot of shit to our community...

Love u girl but that remark struck a cord and in the end sounded ignorant.

Thanks. Yeah it upset me when people bash on ALL immigrants. I do agree that some of these P.O.S.'s should be sent back home, but most are decent people, are here to work the jobs no one wants to do and dont wanna cause trouble.
PS Im brazilian, thus explaining why im defending immigrants.



Did I say anything about mexicans? :no: Ok then. I am talking about those who come into America illegally in general whether they be mexican, african, russian, german, etc. Oh and about who built my house. We have "american citizens" who are capable and willing to do the job.

I gave mexicans as an example, not saying you were bashing on them. And yes you do have american citizens who will do the job, but how many of you will actually get down and dirty and build a house? Go to 1 contruction site and tell me how many americans you count. If you see one or two, they are usually the general contractors, or one of the owners of the place. Dont get mad at me, im just stating the truth. Altough I agree the rapers, criminals, robbers, and the ones that "freeload" and dont pay taxes should be sent back. Again. just my :2cents:

[BluesClues]

SAY UR PRAYERS BC U WILL BLEED B4 SUNSET.
The hell I will:2up:

[SLOWLYbtngU]

People who come into the u.s illegally are freeloaders. They have to earn their citizenship just like everyone else. They should not be able to pay someone for marriage just to sneak around the system. Now like I said I did not say anything about Mexicans. I am just talking about any race in general. Now take it how you want. That is you all's personal problem
My "personal problem" will be pm'd to u in a minute.

[BluesClues]

Thanks. Yeah it upset me when people bash on ALL immigrants. I do agree that some of these P.O.S.'s should be sent back home, but most are decent people, are here to work the jobs no one wants to do and dont wanna cause trouble.
PS Im brazilian, thus explaining why im defending immigrants.




I gave mexicans as an example, not saying you were bashing on them. And yes you do have american citizens who will do the job, but how many of you will actually get down and dirty and build a house? Go to 1 contruction site and tell me how many americans you count. If you see one or two, they are usually the general contractors, or one of the owners of the place. Dont get mad at me, im just stating the truth. Altough I agree the rapers, criminals, robbers, and the ones that "freeload" and dont pay taxes should be sent back. Again. just my :2cents:
From what I hear the reason they hire Mexicans is because it is cheaper to pay them, but I wouldn't know personally. I am sure there are tons of "american citizens" who will get "down and dirty" to do a job. I mean who orginally built houses and buildings before the Mexicans and whoever else came here?

[Ed]

From what I hear the reason they hire Mexicans is because it is cheaper to pay them, but I wouldn't know personally. I am sure there are tons of "american citizens" who will get "down and dirty" to do a job. I mean who orginally built houses and buildings before the Mexicans and whoever else came here?

Eh, I gave you my opinion you obviously have yours and i respect it, but i dont wanna sit here and try to argue whos right and wrong, thats the govt's job, whatever you and i think does not matter anyway to them. :goodjob:

[BTEC]

I gave mexicans as an example, not saying you were bashing on them. And yes you do have american citizens who will do the job, but how many of you will actually get down and dirty and build a house? Go to 1 contruction site and tell me how many americans you count. If you see one or two, they are usually the general contractors, or one of the owners of the place. Dont get mad at me, im just stating the truth. Altough I agree the rapers, criminals, robbers, and the ones that "freeload" and dont pay taxes should be sent back. Again. just my :2cents:
BC AMERICANS HAVE TO PAY TAXES AND CANT AFFORD TO WRK FOR AS LITTLE AS AN IMMIGRANT WHO DOESNT PAY TAXES CAN THEREFORE AN IMMIGRANT WILL GET CHOSEN TO DO THE JOB OVER AN AMERICAN BC THEY DNT HAVE TO PAY THEM AS MUCH. THE THING I LIKE ABOUT MEXICAN (ONLY ONES IVE SEEN DO IT) IS THEYLL WRK FOR CHEAP BUT EVENTUALLY THEY OPEN THEIR OWN SHIT BC THEY DNT PLAN ON WRKN FOR THE MAN FOREVER. AMERICANS USUALLY BE LOOKING TO GET INTO A RETIREMENT PLAN OR SOMETHING BC THEY DNT WANT TO DO THE WRK INVOLVED IN RUNNING A BUSINESS. THATS JUST WHAT I AHEV SEEN FROM CONSTRUCTION.

[SLOWLYbtngU]

pm sent

[SLOWLYbtngU]

From what I hear the reason they hire Mexicans is because it is cheaper to pay them, but I wouldn't know personally. I am sure there are tons of "american citizens" who will get "down and dirty" to do a job. I mean who orginally built houses and buildings before the Mexicans and whoever else came here?
U want honesty ur gonna get it...

Asian and black people....

[SLOWLYbtngU]

BC AMERICANS HAVE TO PAY TAXES AND CANT AFFORD TO WRK FOR AS LITTLE AS AN IMMIGRANT WHO DOESNT PAY TAXES CAN THEREFORE AN IMMIGRANT WILL GET CHOSEN TO DO THE JOB OVER AN AMERICAN BC THEY DNT HAVE TO PAY THEM AS MUCH. THE THING I LIKE ABOUT MEXICAN (ONLY ONES IVE SEEN DO IT) IS THEYLL WRK FOR CHEAP BUT EVENTUALLY THEY OPEN THEIR OWN SHIT BC THEY DNT PLAN ON WRKN FOR THE MAN FOREVER. AMERICANS USUALLY BE LOOKING TO GET INTO A RETIREMENT PLAN OR SOMETHING BC THEY DNT WANT TO DO THE WRK INVOLVED IN RUNNING A BUSINESS. THATS JUST WHAT I AHEV SEEN FROM CONSTRUCTION.
That is very much so correct....I have seen so many families say fuck this and open their own business...

Oddly enough my family is/are considered immigrants even though we are legal and a lot of times treated the same...U cant tell from brown skin what a person is...

My father was working for all these independent plumbing businesses he eventually said fuck this...Now he owns his own, he uses immigrant works but pays them more than enough for the job they do, at times he ends up with the short end of the stick, but he also helps them get the naturalization process going and makes them apply for a Tax ID...

[Ed]

BC AMERICANS HAVE TO PAY TAXES AND CANT AFFORD TO WRK FOR AS LITTLE AS AN IMMIGRANT WHO DOESNT PAY TAXES CAN THEREFORE AN IMMIGRANT WILL GET CHOSEN TO DO THE JOB OVER AN AMERICAN BC THEY DNT HAVE TO PAY THEM AS MUCH. THE THING I LIKE ABOUT MEXICAN (ONLY ONES IVE SEEN DO IT) IS THEYLL WRK FOR CHEAP BUT EVENTUALLY THEY OPEN THEIR OWN SHIT BC THEY DNT PLAN ON WRKN FOR THE MAN FOREVER. AMERICANS USUALLY BE LOOKING TO GET INTO A RETIREMENT PLAN OR SOMETHING BC THEY DNT WANT TO DO THE WRK INVOLVED IN RUNNING A BUSINESS. THATS JUST WHAT I AHEV SEEN FROM CONSTRUCTION.

I agree. Immigrants should pay taxes. I think I already said this but here it goes again: "freeloaders" should be sent home. I dont like them just as much as you guys. The reason why immigrants work for little is because they have no papers, they have no social security, so they know that they cant get a high paying job, because those usually require you have a social security and such.

[BTEC]

I agree. Immigrants should pay taxes. I think I already said this but here it goes again: "freeloaders" should be sent home. I dont like them just as much as you guys. The reason why immigrants work for little is because they have no papers, they have no social security, so they know that they cant get a high paying job, because those usually require you have a social security and such.
I NEVER USED THE WORD FREELOADER. I NEVER SAID I HAD A PROBLEM WITH NE OF THIS. I JUST EXPLAIN TO U Y U NEVER SEE ANY AMERICAN WORKING IN THE MUD AT CONSTRUCTION SITES. I KNOW Y THEY WRK FOR CHEAP AND Y THEY DNT PAY TAXES AND ALL THAT. U ASKED A QUESTION AND I ANSWERED.

BUT NO HARD FEELINGS TOWARDS NEBODY IN HERE. GOOD DESCISION THAT COULDVE WENT BAD BUT DIDNT. GOOD JOB EVERYBODY.

[SLOWLYbtngU]

SAVING URSELF THE A REAL G I SEE. THATS WHAT I LIKE TO HEAR.
Nah saving myself for the highest bidder!!! Bwahahahaha!!!! :D












j/k

[Ed]

I NEVER USED THE WORD FREELOADER. I NEVER SAID I HAD A PROBLEM WITH NE OF THIS. I JUST EXPLAIN TO U Y U NEVER SEE ANY AMERICAN WORKING IN THE MUD AT CONSTRUCTION SITES. I KNOW Y THEY WRK FOR CHEAP AND Y THEY DNT PAY TAXES AND ALL THAT. U ASKED A QUESTION AND I ANSWERED.

BUT NO HARD FEELINGS TOWARDS NEBODY IN HERE. GOOD DESCISION THAT COULDVE WENT BAD BUT DIDNT. GOOD JOB EVERYBODY.

We still cool jesse... right? :lmfao:

[BTEC]

We still cool jesse... right? :lmfao:
WHO DEE FUCK IS YOU? ~takes out my sword~

[BTEC]

Nah saving myself for the highest bidder!!! Bwahahahaha!!!! :D












j/k
DO U TAKE WEEKLY INSTALLMENTS? :D

[Ed]

WHO DEE FUCK IS YOU? ~takes out my sword~

wtf... lol Ed, i used to have the black celica. brents friend.

[SLOWLYbtngU]

WHO DEE FUCK IS YOU? ~takes out my sword~
LOL! Pulling a Kashime huh? lol :goodjob: Gangsta!

[SLOWLYbtngU]

DO U TAKE WEEKLY INSTALLMENTS? :D
Shit no...This aint no layaway plan..wtf?

HURRY UP AND BUY!!!! :D :lmfao: :crazy:

[BTEC]

wtf... lol Ed, i used to have the black celica. brents friend.
OH SHIT!!! WHATS UP MAN? I 4GOT HE TOLD ME U GOT AN EVO. :2up:
LOL!!! YEAH MAN WE COOL

[BluesClues]

I agree. Immigrants should pay taxes. I think I already said this but here it goes again: "freeloaders" should be sent home. I dont like them just as much as you guys. The reason why immigrants work for little is because they have no papers, they have no social security, so they know that they cant get a high paying job, because those usually require you have a social security and such.

The reason I am mad about the fact. Because instead of becoming an american citizen so they can get a higher paying job they choose not to and are freeloaders because my hard earned money goes to pay for their medical bills

[BTEC]

Shit no...This aint no layaway plan..wtf?

HURRY UP AND BUY!!!! :D :lmfao: :crazy:
FUNNY SHIT RIGHT THERE. LOL!!!

[BTEC]

The reason I am mad about the fact. Because instead of becoming an american citizen so they can get a higher paying job they choose not to and are freeloaders because my hard earned money goes to pay for their medical bills
NOT TRUE BLUES

[Ed]

OH SHIT!!! WHATS UP MAN? I 4GOT HE TOLD ME U GOT AN EVO. :2up:
LOL!!! YEAH MAN WE COOL

sorry lol yeah i got it like 4 months ago, i love this shit. you going to the varsity next month?

[BluesClues]

NOT TRUE BLUES
When you sneak into the U.S without going through the process, what do you call that?

[BTEC]

sorry lol yeah i got it like 4 months ago, i love this shit. you going to the varsity next month?
PROLLY NOT. I DNT REALLY DO THE VARSITY NE MORE. I DO RANDOM SHIT MOST OF THE TIME SO U NEVER KNOW, I MIGHTJUST POP UP.

[BTEC]

When you sneak into the U.S without going through the process, what do you call that?
NOTICE WHAT I HIGHLIGHTED

[BluesClues]

NOTICE WHAT I HIGHLIGHTED
That is what I am referring to.
Nevermind forget it. I am done with this subject

[Ed]

PROLLY NOT. I DNT REALLY DO THE VARSITY NE MORE. I DO RANDOM SHIT MOST OF THE TIME SO U NEVER KNOW, I MIGHTJUST POP UP.

its gotten old. too many ricers burning out. ppl always complain, but never do anything they stand by it and cheer. oh well thats for another thread anyway.

[ISAtlanta300]

People who come into the u.s illegally are freeloaders. They have to earn their citizenship just like everyone else. They should not be able to pay someone for marriage just to sneak around the system. Now like I said I did not say anything about Mexicans. I am just talking about any race in general. Now take it how you want. That is you all's personal problem

And how exactly do you "earn" this citizenship? Is there a line somewhere to stand in "Citizenships offered !! Apply here?"

Hence the reason that people are willing to marry. Cause 1. There is no such line 2. If you have no family that can sponsor you, you're fubar 3. Even lawyers advise that in order to get your shit, you would have to marry

[JDMJAYDC2]

well i had no idea ppl paid up to 40k for marriage and i know about the whole 2 year mark and all this african guy at work is a fucking idiot im still waiting for my new job to come in and if it does ill take his 5k up front and quit the job im at now. hows that for 2 weeks notice.:2up:

[4dmin]

if the bitch is hot hell ya but 5k + you get to fuck her when ever ;); com'on you get a female roommate to screw + 5k + a tax write off :goodjob:

[VegetaRules]

Dude, you can't even fully boost a car for 5k.lol As for the immigrints thing. I have no real problems with the ones who really wanna contribute to society. I have a problem when they come here, & know all the get over tricks.

I also hate when people try to run that " oh immirgints do most of this type of work". You know why?? Example, 3 people go to apply for job in the paper. The ad says job pays $13. 1 black person, 1 white person, & one Mexican come to apply.

The job becomes $7 & goes to two illegal Hispanics. $7 no taxes = $280, to hispancs that eqauls decent haul. To legal citizens, that eqauls $120 after taxes. lol

The other problem is most Hispanics are basically here to build up their homeland, at taxpayers expense. They live 5-6 to a House/APT, one takes all their money, turns it over into Peso's builds house, leaves after 5 years, lives good. Yes I know this, because I have hispanic friends, & they told me about their "pyramid" tactic.

No prob, except that 5 years, coulda gone to needy American, thus negating the " welfare" thing. Poeple seem to sometiems only see one side. I don't feel sorry for immigrints, because they do get alot more breaks than Americans.

No ranting, very calm, just stating this point because of that " Immigrints do what Americans won't". We'll do it, just not at no BS wages. And because they know someone will do it for BS wages, Americans can't realistically afford to do those types of jobs, which is why we don't.....Vegeta

[lilmanx01]

for a random bitch no. for a more informational situation fuck yea. ppl do it in my country give you 10k-20k to take their daughter bring her to states...she lives on her own then a few years down the road you sign the papers.

[SLOWLYbtngU]

Dude, you can't even fully boost a car for 5k.lol As for the immigrints thing. I have no real problems with the ones who really wanna contribute to society. I have a problem when they come here, & know all the get over tricks.

I also hate when people try to run that " oh immirgints do most of this type of work". You know why?? Example, 3 people go to apply for job in the paper. The ad says job pays $13. 1 black person, 1 white person, & one Mexican come to apply.

The job becomes $7 & goes to two illegal Hispanics. $7 no taxes = $280, to hispancs that eqauls decent haul. To legal citizens, that eqauls $120 after taxes. lol

The other problem is most Hispanics are basically here to build up their homeland, at taxpayers expense. They live 5-6 to a House/APT, one takes all their money, turns it over into Peso's builds house, leaves after 5 years, lives good. Yes I know this, because I have hispanic friends, & they told me about their "pyramid" tactic.

No prob, except that 5 years, coulda gone to needy American, thus negating the " welfare" thing. Poeple seem to sometiems only see one side. I don't feel sorry for immigrints, because they do get alot more breaks than Americans.

No ranting, very calm, just stating this point because of that " Immigrints do what Americans won't". We'll do it, just not at no BS wages. And because they know someone will do it for BS wages, Americans can't realistically afford to do those types of jobs, which is why we don't.....Vegeta

Umm...Then is it the immigrant's fault?

Lemme know cuz it doesnt sound like it...Sounds like a pride issue honestly...Oh and I know plenty of families that are poor and searching for a job and ur right maybe they cant live off of it but they arent gonna lose that opportunity to wait for "something better to come along." I mean if they really need the money u take anything right???:goodjob:

Oh and I am an immigrant but legal (never went through a naturalization process), some people really need to specify who they are talking about....I do not work for minimum wage, I am educated, I have lived in the States since I was 3 yet I feel about as welcomed as your "illegals" do...Why? Because when people look at others at the mall or at a restaurant, they do not see how much money they make or where they work....All they see is skin...Face it, every remark made in here is either prejudice, ignorance, or just plain racism...But its all good b/c if I ever meet a person that says that they are not racist I call bullshit. I think we all have it in us...Everybody.

[Xpsi]

SLOWLYbtngU

I agree with you.

[BluesClues]

IT seems everyone has their own different views and really there is nothing anyone can say to change these views because we all have had different experiences. Joselyn for you to call us racist I think may be a tad bit off. I know I am not racist. I never said I had anything wrong with a certain race. I just get pissed off when being a black person we still have to fight for our rights today and for someone who is not originally from here gets off easier than we do. It makes me feel as a black person singled out, but this is no one's fault but the governments. I have said everything I could say so I am done with this subject. This subject will never get anywhere :no:

[BTEC]

Umm...Then is it the immigrant's fault?

Lemme know cuz it doesnt sound like it...Sounds like a pride issue honestly...Oh and I know plenty of families that are poor and searching for a job and ur right maybe they cant live off of it but they arent gonna lose that opportunity to wait for "something better to come along." I mean if they really need the money u take anything right???:goodjob:

Oh and I am an immigrant but legal (never went through a naturalization process), some people really need to specify who they are talking about....I do not work for minimum wage, I am educated, I have lived in the States since I was 3 yet I feel about as welcomed as your "illegals" do...Why? Because when people look at others at the mall or at a restaurant, they do not see how much money they make or where they work....All they see is skin...Face it, every remark made in here is either prejudice, ignorance, or just plain racism...But its all good b/c if I ever meet a person that says that they are not racist I call bullshit. I think we all have it in us...Everybody.
WHAT DID I SAY THAT IS RACIST? I STICK UP FOR MI MEXICAN AMIGO'S DAMMIT.


JUST INCASE U DIDNT NOTICE, IM MEXICAN TODAY. I THINK I WAS REDNECK YESTERDAY. :thinking:

[SLOWLYbtngU]

IT seems everyone has their own different views and really there is nothing anyone can say to change these views because we all have had different experiences. Joselyn for you to call us racist I think may be a tad bit off. I know I am not racist. I never said I had anything wrong with a certain race. I just get pissed off when being a black person we still have to fight for our rights today and for someone who is not originally from here gets off easier than we do. It makes me feel as a black person singled out, but this is no one's fault but the governments. I have said everything I could say so I am done with this subject. This subject will never get anywhere :no:
I never said YOU were racist...I said the comments made were either one of the three...

When I took my Civil Rights courses at GSU my professor called out all the black kids in the class for looking at me like i was weird b/c I was in there...She explained to them that b/c of my Puerto Rican roots I probably have more black blood in my pinky than most of them have in their bodies...I stayed quiet that whole semester, there was a rally one day outside for Latinos...I was the only one that got up out of my seat and walked out...What did my professor say..."What the hell are you people waiting for? That girl needs others to stand behind her but you all feel that the struggle has been fought for you by people of the past and therefore you quit fighting. You roll through life feeling like you are intitled to special treatment b/c you are black. Let me tell you something. You may be black in here but to some people out there you are still just a nigger." She made the whole class go out and march with me..Why? B/c in the end we are all fighting for the same cause...

BTW-There are Africans that are illegal immigrants as well as Jamaican if you want illegals sent back just know that everybody has to get checked...Including black people. Me personally, I would much rather worry about those that are killing, raping, stealing, and doing things that hurt our society than sending illegals that make minimum wage back home.... If it happens to be the illegals that are doing this..then hell send'em back!

[SLOWLYbtngU]

WHAT DID I SAY THAT IS RACIST? I STICK UP FOR MI MEXICAN AMIGO'S DAMMIT.


JUST INCASE U DIDNT NOTICE, IM MEXICAN TODAY. I THINK I WAS REDNECK YESTERDAY. :thinking:
LOL! I meant those that commented on the illegal/immigrant thing..

Oh and if your Mexican today it is written "messican" that is how they would say it :goodjob:

[2turbo4u]

The problem is blamed on the Man whom ever he shall be(white,black,purple). Those that are in charge (government,bodyshop owner,contrator) are the people to blame because he the one hiring the illegals when he could hire citizens. He also could say hay if you want legal you got to pay for legals. Think about this the avg. house in Ga. is about $175k for argument sake if we get legal to build them the house would go up about another $20k or so. Ask yourself why so many people come from other states to live here in Ga. because the home,apt. are cheap versus the cost in most states in the country. So if the illegals are taken out the equation we would be paying a lot more for the work we need.

[BTEC]

LOL! I meant those that commented on the illegal/immigrant thing..

Oh and if your Mexican today it is written "messican" that is how they would say it :goodjob:
YEAH I WAS TRYING TO BE MORE AMERICAN. :gay:

[SLOWLYbtngU]

YEAH I WAS TRYING TO BE MORE AMERICAN. :gay:
LAME!!!

But since you mention it...What makes an American?

[SLOWLYbtngU]

Oh and for educational purposes---> 3 kinds of races

Mongoloid, Negroid, and Caucasoid...

[BTEC]

LAME!!!

But since you mention it...What makes an American?
MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL
BUDLIGHT
ROCK & ROLL
MULLETS
HOT DOGS
THE RED, WHITE, AND BLUE (SHEDDUP)

[BTEC]

Oh and for educational purposes---> 3 kinds of races

Mongoloid, Negroid, and Caucasoid...
IM FURIAN. GUESS IM FROM OUTTER SPACE.

WELL I DO TURN GREEN WHEN I GET MAD SO THAT WOULD EXPLAIN IT. :dunno:

[SLOWLYbtngU]

MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL
BUDLIGHT
ROCK & ROLL
MULLETS
HOT DOGS
THE RED, WHITE, AND BLUE (SHEDDUP)

Then being "American" is a culture not a specific origin. Think about it..Even white people name all of their origins when asked what they are, some say American, but most fry to differentiate by saying, "Oh my mother was Polish, my father was a Irish/Dutch mix."

Face it, America is made up by the different people in it...:) Isnt that what makes it wonderful?

[SLOWLYbtngU]

IM FURIAN. GUESS IM FROM OUTTER SPACE.

WELL I DO TURN GREEN WHEN I GET MAD SO THAT WOULD EXPLAIN IT. :dunno:
Nope...Ur a dork :goodjob: :taun:

[BTEC]

I DNT GIVE A SHIT WHO WHAT RELIGION RACE OR ETHIC BACKGROUND. IF UR COOL WITH ME IM COOL WTH U. IF WE ARE FRIENDS I GOT UR BACK NO MATTER WHAT. IF U GOT BEEF WITH ME ILL WHOOP UR ASS JUST AS EASY AS THE NEXT. CHICKS, I DNT DISCRIMINATE. :idb:

TAKE TOO MUCH EFFORT TRYING TO PICK AND CHOOSE AND I GET BETTER THINGS TO DO.

[BluesClues]

Umm...Then is it the immigrant's fault?

Lemme know cuz it doesnt sound like it...Sounds like a pride issue honestly...Oh and I know plenty of families that are poor and searching for a job and ur right maybe they cant live off of it but they arent gonna lose that opportunity to wait for "something better to come along." I mean if they really need the money u take anything right???:goodjob:

Oh and I am an immigrant but legal (never went through a naturalization process), some people really need to specify who they are talking about....I do not work for minimum wage, I am educated, I have lived in the States since I was 3 yet I feel about as welcomed as your "illegals" do...Why? Because when people look at others at the mall or at a restaurant, they do not see how much money they make or where they work....All they see is skin...Face it, every remark made in here is either prejudice, ignorance, or just plain racism...But its all good b/c if I ever meet a person that says that they are not racist I call bullshit. I think we all have it in us...Everybody.

Correction you said it here!

And as far as africans and jamacians that are immigrants, if they are here legally cool, if not, then hell yeah they should be sent back. I SAID ALL ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. THAT INCLUDES EVERY RACE!!!!!

[SLOWLYbtngU]

Correction you said it here!

And as far as africans and jamacians that are immigrants, if they are here legally cool, if not, then hell yeah they should be sent back. I SAID ALL ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. THAT INCLUDES EVERY RACE!!!!!

I thought u were thinking about where I said the ignorant, prejudice, or racist statement...

I think it is funny that you say this b/c I believe it was you that pointed out that white people wear flip flops in the cold, yeah yeah u said that you would call out another race too, w/e u specified one race...If race did not mater you wouldnt have ever mentioned it...Face it u care about race no matter how much you say you dont...

If u have ever uttered any of these phrases....U have an issue with peoples background, race, culture, socio-make up...

"Damn white people"
"Fucking Mexicans"
"Dumb ass nigga"
"Fucking Asian people"

Face it if you say you havent said any of those....Jamese you are lying to yourself and should go ahead and accept it.

Oh and about not specifying race, it can be done..One of my good friends and former collegues at the AJC never specifies race...To her it isnt important and she refuses to state it in a story...So yeah, you can talk about flip flops with out saying "white." Unless of course the flip flops are white...

[BluesClues]

I thought u were thinking about where I said the ignorant, prejudice, or racist statement...

I think it is funny that you say this b/c I believe it was you that pointed out that white people wear flip flops in the cold, yeah yeah u said that you would call out another race too, w/e u specified one race...If race did not mater you wouldnt have ever mentioned it...Face it u care about race no matter how much you say you dont...

If u have ever uttered any of these phrases....U have an issue with peoples background, race, culture, socio-make up...

"Damn white people"
"Fucking Mexicans"
"Dumb ass nigga"
"Fucking Asian people"

Face it if you say you havent said any of those....Jamese you are lying to yourself and should go ahead and accept it.

Oh and about not specifying race, it can be done..One of my good friends and former collegues at the AJC never specifies race...To her it isnt important and she refuses to state it in a story...So yeah, you can talk about flip flops with out saying "white." Unless of course the flip flops are white...

Obviously you don't know the definition of racist. It would be the dislike or hatred of another race which I do not fit in this category what so ever. About the flip flops topic, only race I see wearing them during the winter are white people, if I saw a black, asain, indian, hispanic, race then I would have said something about them too. Second of all, for me to be racist against blacks or whites would be completely stupid on my part seeing that's what I am. I would have to hate myself and I DON'T.

Oh and I believe everyone cares about race to an extent, but that does not make us racist.

It is obvious to me no matter what I say you take it and twist it and try to make me out to be someone I am not. Like I said earlier you have your views and I have mine.

[SLOWLYbtngU]

Obviously you don't know the definition of racist. It would be the dislike or hatred of another race which I do not fit in this category what so ever. About the flip flops topic, only race I see wearing them during the winter are white people, if I saw a black, asain, indian, hispanic, race then I would have said something about them too. Second of all, for me to be racist against blacks or whites would be completely stupid on my part seeing that's what I am. I would have to hate myself and I DON'T.

Oh and I believe everyone cares about race to an extent, but that does not make us racist.

It is obvious to me no matter what I say you take it and twist it and try to make me out to be someone I am not. Like I said earlier you have your views and I have mine.
I have also noticed that no matter what I say, you get worked up...I have yet to get pissed throughout this whole thread. Bothered yes, but pissed nope. ANd yet your excessive use of CAPS and exclamation points leads me to believe that you have..If it doesnt apply to you why are you upset???

Babe I never said you were racist..I merely said what you wrote up there in bold..That is all...You are arguing when i ma conceding..That doesnt make sense. Take yourself off from the defendive side for one mintue and read everything that i have written...Not once did I specidy you except for when I said your comment was ignorant...Which I still stand by. Ignorance means "not knowing" nothing more...And when I said it was ignroant it is b/c no matter how hard you try you will never see all sides of the argument...Therefore you will never "know."

I mean look at you, you are on the defensive for no reason. Why? It is merely a debate...That is all. All we are doing is stating our opinions nothing more.

[SLOWLYbtngU]

Oh and I very much so do know the definition of the word racist...I have experienced it all babe...ALL OF IT....I was sexually assaulted for being inthe wrong neighborhood at the wrong time but do I hate black people? NOPE!

I was jumped in school b/c I was the only Hispanic girl...DO I hate white people? NOPE!

I was jumped by an Asian gang b/c I dated one of their members...Do ihate Asian people? NOPE!

I have been spit in the face and called a spic at a demonstration...Did I whoop that white lady's ass? NOPE!

So yes I know racism....

Have you ever heard of Timid Bigot?

[VegetaRules]

Slowlybtngu, I am not a racist. I hate when people point out things they see daily done,& there's that quick flap. If you are here legally went through the process, congrads, that at least shows you want to contribute.

As Bluesclues pointed out, & as I clearly stated. " We only have a problem when the liberties illegal immigrints are abused". If you're working hard, making it, hey more power to you.

I gave exact explanaitions as to what I was exactly referring to. I said when they take jobs away from Americans, knowing full well they have no intentions of contributing then I have a problem. You say " oh take $7 & work with it", thats the part I don't like because, unless you have assistance, you aren't gonna cut it on a $7 per hour check.

You asked who's fault it is,...it's the people who hire them knowingly, to avoid paying higher standard wages, & insurance. I do not blame illegals for trying to better themselves, more power to you. But like when they had their march, they had this whole " you can't live without us", because we do all this.

I'm simply stating the reason why it's like that. Corparations are greedy, & see illegals as cheap labor, so naturally if you see an American white,black,asain,ect applying, & an illegal, they see " no insurance, no griping, more labor, less pay".

The odd thing is most of the African,Asain peopel are legal, ya'll want to be part of the USA, GREAT!!! But don't keep lumping yourselfves in these types of disscussions, because 9 times out of 10 it's not about you.....Vegeta

[BluesClues]

Slowlybtngu, I am not a racist. I hate when people point out things they see daily done,& there's that quick flap. If you are here legally went through the process, congrads, that at least shows you want to contribute.

As Bluesclues pointed out, & as I clearly stated. " We only have a problem when the liberties illegal immigrints are abused". If you're working hard, making it, hey more power to you.

I gave exact explanaitions as to what I was exactly referring to. I said when they take jobs away from Americans, knowing full well they have no intentions of contributing then I have a problem. You say " oh take $7 & work with it", thats the part I don't like because, unless you have assistance, you aren't gonna cut it on a $7 per hour check.

You asked who's fault it is,...it's the people who hire them knowingly, to avoid paying higher standard wages, & insurance. I do not blame illegals for trying to better themselves, more power to you. But like when they had their march, they had this whole " you can't live without us", because we do all this.

I'm simply stating the reason why it's like that. Corparations are greedy, & see illegals as cheap labor, so naturally if you see an American white,black,asain,ect applying, & an illegal, they see " no insurance, no griping, more labor, less pay".

The odd thing is most of the African,Asain peopel are legal, ya'll want to be part of the USA, GREAT!!! But don't keep lumping yourselfves in these types of disscussions, because 9 times out of 10 it's not about you.....Vegeta

:goodjob:

[BluesClues]

I have also noticed that no matter what I say, you get worked up...I have yet to get pissed throughout this whole thread. Bothered yes, but pissed nope. ANd yet your excessive use of CAPS and exclamation points leads me to believe that you have..If it doesnt apply to you why are you upset???

Babe I never said you were racist..I merely said what you wrote up there in bold..That is all...You are arguing when i ma conceding..That doesnt make sense. Take yourself off from the defendive side for one mintue and read everything that i have written...Not once did I specidy you except for when I said your comment was ignorant...Which I still stand by. Ignorance means "not knowing" nothing more...And when I said it was ignroant it is b/c no matter how hard you try you will never see all sides of the argument...Therefore you will never "know."

I mean look at you, you are on the defensive for no reason. Why? It is merely a debate...That is all. All we are doing is stating our opinions nothing more.
:no:

[SLOWLYbtngU]

Slowlybtngu, I am not a racist. I hate when people point out things they see daily done,& there's that quick flap. If you are here legally went through the process, congrads, that at least shows you want to contribute.
What???


As Bluesclues pointed out, & as I clearly stated. " We only have a problem when the liberties illegal immigrints are abused". If you're working hard, making it, hey more power to you.

ok??? I wasnt just discussing myself but umm thank you, that wasnt my point.


I gave exact explanaitions as to what I was exactly referring to. I said when they take jobs away from Americans, knowing full well they have no intentions of contributing then I have a problem. You say " oh take $7 & work with it", thats the part I don't like because, unless you have assistance, you aren't gonna cut it on a $7 per hour check.

You asked who's fault it is,...it's the people who hire them knowingly, to avoid paying higher standard wages, & insurance. I do not blame illegals for trying to better themselves, more power to you. But like when they had their march, they had this whole " you can't live without us", because we do all this.

I understand your explanation..Hence why I responded with the people that are here, American, that will not take them..So I think I know what you're saying..The contractors should wait to do their project until they get enough legal people to do it..Sounds good to me. But it wont happen. As long as there are people willing to do it for cheap...It will get done quicker and make the contractor more money..

They kinda do "all this" b/c others wont...


I'm simply stating the reason why it's like that. Corparations are greedy, & see illegals as cheap labor, so naturally if you see an American white,black,asain,ect applying, & an illegal, they see " no insurance, no griping, more labor, less pay".

The odd thing is most of the African,Asain peopel are legal, ya'll want to be part of the USA, GREAT!!! But don't keep lumping yourselfves in these types of disscussions, because 9 times out of 10 it's not about you.....Vegeta

About the corporation thing..It is illegal to hire people without some form of documentation..When they do this they know it is illegal..I am glad some dstates fine the companies now when they find out that illegals are working there...

I would make your last paragraph bold...but well you already did...I am an immigrant that had no choice on whether or not I wanted to be part of the US of A...And granted you can tell me that I should go back to where I camefrom, and well I can but it is still US soil...Do I consider myself American, yes. But not based on whether or not i am legal...I base it onthe fact that this is home and all i have ever known... The comment about most Asians and Africans is bullshit...I am sorry but I went to the most culturally diverse school in all of GA....73% of our students were illegal...21% of our school was Asian...Africans being legal...Once again, my ass they are...I have been asked on several occasions to help out my familiesfriends b/c they are not here legally....They came on a tourism pass and never left.

[The Golden Child]

you daym racise people ill kill you all ..

[SLOWLYbtngU]

Oh..BTW- to all that have commented....Did I say you in particular were a racist? I dont think so...If it was meant for you then I would call you name..Believe me I am very up front...In person and online.

[The Golden Child]

LEAVE MY PEOPLE ALONE !!!

[SLOWLYbtngU]

LEAVE MY PEOPLE ALONE !!!
LOL!!! shhhh.....No one mentioned your status :ninja:

[SLOWLYbtngU]

:no:
K then my bad homey...All those CAPS and exclamations confused me..I am sorry.

[The Golden Child]

LOL!!! shhhh.....No one mentioned your status :ninja:

in general sis in general everyone always looking at us non us citizens like were bad guys ..

yea there is a percentage of non us citizens who are criminals and all ..

everyone has there opinion and ive dealt with alot of racist stuff growing up ..

[BluesClues]

in general sis in general everyone always looking at us non us citizens like were bad guys ..

yea there is a percentage of non us citizens who are criminals and all ..

everyone has there opinion and ive dealt with alot of racist stuff growing up ..

You and everyone else

[SLOWLYbtngU]

in general sis in general everyone always looking at us non us citizens like were bad guys ..

yea there is a percentage of non us citizens who are criminals and all ..

everyone has there opinion and ive dealt with alot of racist stuff growing up ..
Believe me I know Steve...I know....Imagine being legal and being looked at wrong just cuz they assume you're not...It sucks ass. I am sorry babe

[The Golden Child]

imma kill the next person who says some stupid shit .. thats word ..

[MR. 200SX]

Everybody is missing the whole point and I know the truth hurts but here it goes.

1. Not all Illegal immigrants crossed the border.
2. Not all Illegal are Mexican (a majority yeah)
3. Companies don't hire "immigrants" because they work for less they just work harder and complain less.
4. Being familiar with the general contracting business I'm sorry to say that we DO have to pay the same taxes as a business for an illegal immigrant or a legal citizen.
5. Business are based in production not cheaper labor.
6. Some business do explode "illegal immigrant" labor but now is up to the immigrant to deal with the situation because even the department of labor gives them a hand.
7. As sorry as it sounds in our business everybody is welcome to apply but unlucky the American citizens we hire don't usually last more than 3 months and they ALWAYS have excuses to miss work or to avoid working hard.
8. Biggest reason why there is a lot of illegal immigrant labor is because a lot of American Citizens are being smart and are educating themselves seeking managing positions so someone else has to get dirty.
9. A LOT of the illegal immigrants that I'm familiar with have a TAX I.D. and they do their taxes every year like any American Citizen and actually our company requires every person to at least have a tax I.D. and proof of previous tax years revenue.
10. Unfortunately a lot of American based business do take advantage of the cheap labor that illegal immigrants offer and they become more of a harm to this country than the illegal immigrant itself.

You people need to keep in mind that a lot of this people were brought here as kids and never had a chance to become US residents. I know plenty of young teenagers who would give anything to go to college and have a career like any American but they can't because of their legal status.

Becoming a legal resident IS NOT easy and the US government does not want to provide a comprehensive bill to at least give the chance to admit hard working honest people to apply for a work permit at least and I'm sorry but it sounds to me that for the government it works better this way.

I say get rid of all illegal immigrants that are nothing but harm to this country. Get terrorist out of our land but do not punish those who just want to work to feed their kids.

[Ed]

Everybody is missing the whole point and I know the truth hurts but here it goes.

1. Not all Illegal immigrants crossed the border.
2. Not all Illegal are Mexican (a majority yeah)
3. Companies don't hire "immigrants" because they work for less they just work harder and complain less.
4. Being familiar with the general contracting business I'm sorry to say that we DO have to pay the same taxes as a business for an illegal immigrant or a legal citizen.
5. Business are based in production not cheaper labor.
6. Some business do explode "illegal immigrant" labor but now is up to the immigrant to deal with the situation because even the department of labor gives them a hand.
7. As sorry as it sounds in our business everybody is welcome to apply but unlucky the American citizens we hire don't usually last more than 3 months and they ALWAYS have excuses to miss work or to avoid working hard.
8. Biggest reason why there is a lot of illegal immigrant labor is because a lot of American Citizens are being smart and are educating themselves seeking managing positions so someone else has to get dirty.
9. A LOT of the illegal immigrants that I'm familiar with have a TAX I.D. and they do their taxes every year like any American Citizen and actually our company requires every person to at least have a tax I.D. and proof of previous tax years revenue.
10. Unfortunately a lot of American based business do take advantage of the cheap labor that illegal immigrants offer and they become more of a harm to this country than the illegal immigrant itself.

You people need to keep in mind that a lot of this people were brought here as kids and never had a chance to become US residents. I know plenty of young teenagers who would give anything to go to college and have a career like any American but they can't because of their legal status.

Becoming a legal resident IS NOT easy and the US government does not want to provide a comprehensive bill to at least give the chance to admit hard working honest people to apply for a work permit at least and I'm sorry but it sounds to me that for the government it works better this way.

I say get rid of all illegal immigrants that are nothing but harm to this country. Get terrorist out of our land but do not punish those who just want to work to feed their kids.

BEST POST OF THIS ENTIRE THREAD. +1 dude... thank you for making it clear to these people, coming from a person that deals with immigrants. I agree. Send the terrorists, rapists, criminals and all of the such home.

[SLOWLYbtngU]

Everybody is missing the whole point and I know the truth hurts but here it goes.

1. Not all Illegal immigrants crossed the border.
2. Not all Illegal are Mexican (a majority yeah)
3. Companies don't hire "immigrants" because they work for less they just work harder and complain less.
4. Being familiar with the general contracting business I'm sorry to say that we DO have to pay the same taxes as a business for an illegal immigrant or a legal citizen.
5. Business are based in production not cheaper labor.
6. Some business do explode "illegal immigrant" labor but now is up to the immigrant to deal with the situation because even the department of labor gives them a hand.
7. As sorry as it sounds in our business everybody is welcome to apply but unlucky the American citizens we hire don't usually last more than 3 months and they ALWAYS have excuses to miss work or to avoid working hard.
8. Biggest reason why there is a lot of illegal immigrant labor is because a lot of American Citizens are being smart and are educating themselves seeking managing positions so someone else has to get dirty.
9. A LOT of the illegal immigrants that I'm familiar with have a TAX I.D. and they do their taxes every year like any American Citizen and actually our company requires every person to at least have a tax I.D. and proof of previous tax years revenue.
10. Unfortunately a lot of American based business do take advantage of the cheap labor that illegal immigrants offer and they become more of a harm to this country than the illegal immigrant itself.

You people need to keep in mind that a lot of this people were brought here as kids and never had a chance to become US residents. I know plenty of young teenagers who would give anything to go to college and have a career like any American but they can't because of their legal status.

Becoming a legal resident IS NOT easy and the US government does not want to provide a comprehensive bill to at least give the chance to admit hard working honest people to apply for a work permit at least and I'm sorry but it sounds to me that for the government it works better this way.

I say get rid of all illegal immigrants that are nothing but harm to this country. Get terrorist out of our land but do not punish those who just want to work to feed their kids.
:goodjob: