GTI 1.8t or VR6?

[wes_297]

I am looking into getting a VW GTI , but i dont know if i want the 1.8t or the VR6? Whitch has the most potential?

[AlenGTI1.8T]

1.8T , easy way of tuning and a lot of parts available, the only thing you can do with a VR6 is cams or supercharge it , plus the VR6 is heavier i think

vwvortex.com < check it out

[wes_297]

thanks for tha help

[drupason]

definetly 1.8t

[Repost Squintz]

no boost no care!

[gtikid]

Always the great debate...1.8t or VR6. Every vw owner goes through the same problem :goodjob:

1.8t, good to start out with, will make good power with little mods

VR6, has A LOT of potential...

Out of the box, a VR6 will beat a 1.8t. Like i said above, with minimal mods, a 1.8t will beat a VR6. Now if you start going into higher $$ mods, a VR6 is simply awesome. Like the guy said in the other post, go to vwvortex.com and you'll see most of those vr6t's making over 400whp/400lbs/ft

Most people bash the vr6 just b/c it doesn't make as good numbers as a 1.8t does with minimal mods. Those are the kind of guys that have a chip and a drop-in in their 1.8t and don't look to go further with mods. So as always, do some research, look around. There are PLENTY of threads like this on vortex and even a couple on here....:goodjob:

*cough*VR6*cough* :D

[R_Rated]

vr6 has more potential but for more $$$. the 1.8 simply cannot hold as much power. BUT.... the 1.8 is far easier to mod... bolt ons, turbos etc. the VR6 turboed is far more potent than a turbo upgraded 1.8.

like anything automotive; depends on how deep your pockets.

[anfgermany]

i test drove both of the newer ones vr6 is awesome

[Kyle]

Definately 1.8T. More mods, 500 bucks on a chip gives you 50hp on a first generation 1.8T(1999-01) and around 35hp for a second gen(02-05). Plus it's a turbo, boosting is awesome and they sound ridiculous. Take a listen to mine and tell me what you think. You will notice it's an auto so don't bother telling me. It wasn't my choice, thats why I am selling.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=N9cSBhdFv9s

[thegreatfnr]

I was on the fence on this one when I got my GTI and went with a 1.8T and loved it.

Although I have driven a 24V VR6 GLI and that powerplant is just awesome and the sound is unmatched.

since the guy above posted a clip of the 1.8T might as well throw one up of a VR as well

Overall its what everyone else said, if your on a budget the 1.8T is King but if you want the best option for pure power you go VRT.

Clip of VR exhaust (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLNkMBvaxgA)

[4dmin]

if you can afford boost for a vr6 go vr6... but if your not looking to spend that much go 1.8t b/c you can make alot of power for cheap...

i've owned both... vr6 is nice torquey strong motor but 1.8t has boost... stock to stock vr6 wins; with bolt ons 1.8t wins, w/ boost vr6 will demolish 1.8t. :goodjob:

[Allstar3.8T]

I agree w/ Paul, on a budget , a 1.8T with the basic goods will smoke a VR6, HOWEVER, if you can afford boost, the VR6 is a handful, and you get the deep growl that amakes a 1.8T piss itself. I'd now do VR6 and boost FTW!

[driftergreg]

stock for stock, the 24 valve VR6 is the fastest. the 1.8t is cheaper to mod, and has more options. however, if your pockets are deep enough, modding a VR6 (a la FI) will net much more power.

also, you might want to know there are 2 "different" 1.8ts available for the GTI, and 2 truly different VR6's available for the GTI.

Basically, the 00-early 02's had the 150hp 1.8t. they had no exhaust cutout. the 2.5-06 GTi's have the 180hp 1.8t. they upped the power by adding different turbos(the k03sport) different DV and other small changes to the ECU.

Same story with the VR6 motors. Earlier MK4 GTi's had a 12v VR6 that made (i may be off) 150hp, and around 03 they switched to the 24v VR6 which has 200hp. many tuners feel the 12v is "stronger" and can handle more tuning than the 24v.

ultimatly its up to you and your pocketbook. having had 3 1.8ts, i can tell you they are great, and very responsive to any tuning.

good luck and keep us posted! :goodjob:

[Kyle]

I'm pretty sure the first 1.8T ended in 01. Because the 337 came out in 02 with the new engine. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[gtikid]

stock for stock, the 24 valve VR6 is the fastest. the 1.8t is cheaper to mod, and has more options. however, if your pockets are deep enough, modding a VR6 (a la FI) will net much more power.

also, you might want to know there are 2 "different" 1.8ts available for the GTI, and 2 truly different VR6's available for the GTI.

Basically, the 00-early 02's had the 150hp 1.8t. they had no exhaust cutout. the 2.5-06 GTi's have the 180hp 1.8t. they upped the power by adding different turbos(the k03sport) different DV and other small changes to the ECU.

Same story with the VR6 motors. Earlier MK4 GTi's had a 12v VR6 that made (i may be off) 150hp, and around 03 they switched to the 24v VR6 which has 200hp. many tuners feel the 12v is "stronger" and can handle more tuning than the 24v.

ultimatly its up to you and your pocketbook. having had 3 1.8ts, i can tell you they are great, and very responsive to any tuning.

good luck and keep us posted! :goodjob:

Yes your off lol. They were rated at 180.

And yes I do agree with the 2nd part I highlighted. I've raced a 24v GLI in my 12v and we were neck and neck. I was surprised. But i've heard that plenty of times and i've experienced it myself. 12V FTW!! :D

Get a VR6. Look at the video I posted in the VW section. You won't be disappointed man. :goodjob:

[gtikid]

I'm pretty sure the first 1.8T ended in 01. Because the 337 came out in 02 with the new engine. Correct me if I'm wrong.

MKIV's came out in 99-05/06. The 99-2001 had the k03. In 2001.5 the k03 was replaced with the k03s, which is NOT that big of a difference. No new engine there :goodjob:

[driftergreg]

mine came with a Hemi! :lmfao:

[4dmin]

if your gonna buy a 1.8t get a 00-01 they are most responsive to software AWW for the mutha fuckn win!!! ;)

[SE-Rious1]

from experience the 1.8 seems to out last the vr6 and is way easier to maintain

[gtikid]

from experience the 1.8 seems to out last the vr6 and is way easier to maintain

Outlast in what way?

Yes the VR6 has a lot of little stupid things to take care of :(

[Kyle]

MKIV's came out in 99-05/06. The 99-2001 had the k03. In 2001.5 the k03 was replaced with the k03s, which is NOT that big of a difference. No new engine there :goodjob:

Yeah, that didn't come out right. I know it's the same base, I was just trying to say the second version I guess. I have an 01 :( , it's a consequence of me being impatient and just wanting a GTI under any circumstance. A chip would get me to 200 but I am going to buy another 1.8T this time a black 20th AE pending the sale of my car.

[Allstar3.8T]

2.0T FSI FTMFW!!! :P

[4dmin]

2.0T FSI FTMFW!!! :P

that its true but you can get a 1.8t under 10k now so power=$ you can build a nice ride for under 12k for sure

[mikeAPRTT]

1.8 ftw

[gtikid]

1.8 ftw

buahaha :slap:

[Allstar3.8T]

1.8 ftw
Actually, LC2 FTW, dont know LC2? Look it up! And no APR doesnt make chips for it....I wish they would though.

[mikeAPRTT]

buahaha :slap:
lol, do you have something for my little 1.8t? doubtful. ;)

[4dmin]

lol, do you have something for my little 1.8t? doubtful. ;)

what do you have done to your 1.8t? if its a stg III i'm sure we can definately find something to put in check. :goodjob:

[benwaballs]

what do you have done to your 1.8t? if its a stg III i'm sure we can definately find something to put in check. :goodjob:

stg 3s are slow

vr6T FTW

[4dmin]

stg 3s are slow

vr6T FTW

its funny over 5 years of production and best is a mid-high 10 sec run :no: ... vr6T ftw 2x!

[gtikid]

VR6T FTW x3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[gtikid]

Stage 3's are slow....gotta go BT!!! And even then the bottom end's gotta get built to hold the power....so again....

VR6T FTW!!!!!

[benwaballs]

Stage 3's are slow....gotta go BT!!! And even then the bottom end's gotta get built to hold the power....so again....

VR6T FTW!!!!!

ive seen many 1.8t hold over 400whp on a stock bottom end.

[DeutscheBAG!]

its funny over 5 years of production and best is a mid-high 10 sec run :no: ... vr6T ftw 2x!


no traction owns :(

[benwaballs]

no traction owns :(

no it dosn't :ninja:

[R_Rated]

If you can afford to go big then get the VR6 and biturbo it... if not get the 1.8. It is easier to mod the 1.8

[benwaballs]

If you can afford to go big then get the VR6 and biturbo it... if not get the 1.8. It is easier to mod the 1.8

thats not going big thats going huge. any turbo kit that cost over double what the car is worth. :lmfao:

[FNR32]

If you want the car the be quick get the 1.8t. If you want the car to be fast, get the VR6 :goodjob:

[MIami-boy]

BTw this is off topic but how much hp and tq does the VR6 have just curious. i dont knoe a thing about VW

[gtikid]

BTw this is off topic but how much hp and tq does the VR6 have just curious. i dont knoe a thing about VW

12v(99-01.5) VR6- 180hp and like 160tq
24(02-05) VR6 - 200hp and i'm not sure about the torque #s

These of course, are crank #s, not actual WHP

[MIami-boy]

12v(99-01.5) VR6- 180hp and like 160tq
24(02-05) VR6 - 200hp and i'm not sure about the torque #s

These of course, are crank #s, not actual WHP

o ok thanks. because this kid with a VR6 in his 98 gti talks shit all the time about how fast it is and how it can easily beat a h22, type-r ect. and his car runs rich ass hell cuz he got a chip and didnt get it tuned lol. im about to rape his ass

[driftergreg]

ill add this and be done yappin....

i LOVE my car, its been great to me in every way. fun fast and pretty....BUT, i still wish id held out for a VR6.. ;)

[Kyle]

ill add this and be done yappin....

i LOVE my car, its been great to me in every way. fun fast and pretty....BUT, i still wish id held out for a VR6.. ;)

Boooooo....

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p137/kharman3/gtfo7ir.jpg

JP.

[gtikid]

o ok thanks. because this kid with a VR6 in his 98 gti talks shit all the time about how fast it is and how it can easily beat a h22, type-r ect. and his car runs rich ass hell cuz he got a chip and didnt get it tuned lol. im about to rape his ass

More than likely he probably can :D

What other mods are done to the VR6? Besides, don't forget the high tq #s that VW's make that Honda's dont :goodjob:

[MIami-boy]

More than likely he probably can :D

What other mods are done to the VR6? Besides, don't forget the high tq #s that VW's make that Honda's dont :goodjob:

the VR is stock my boy got a h22 swapped CB7 i/h/e 70mm T/B and cam gears. tuned on a s200 his numbers are 198hp and 161 Tq and it's well tuned. the Vr is running pig rich and not to mention heavy ass 2.8 liter. i dont think the 160 tq can compensate for a 3000 pound car. my:2cents:

[gtikid]

the VR is stock my boy got a h22 swapped CB7 i/h/e 70mm T/B and cam gears. tuned on a s200 his numbers are 198hp and 161 Tq and it's well tuned. the Vr is running pig rich and not to mention heavy ass 2.8 liter. i dont think the 160 tq can compensate for a 3000 pound car. my:2cents:

What car is the h22 in? Haha, I love the way people underestimate VW's :D

[MIami-boy]

a accord 93 ex. hahaha i love the way peole under estimate accords lol

[MIami-boy]

BTw do u have a VR6???

[GermanMuscle]

go with the vr6!!! i used to have a 97 jetta vr6, man i loved that car if i ever get enough money im buying another vr6.

also i dont think the clip of the vr6 doesnt represent it very well so i have some of my old car

http://media.putfile.com/jetta-vr6-removed-suitcase-muffler

http://media.putfile.com/jetta-vr6-lunching-1st-gear-only

[4dmin]

BTw do u have a VR6???

i have a completely stock vr6 + slight weight reduction and i'll race a lude :lmfao:

[MIami-boy]

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/VR6/3/deeb2a8b-717c-4e50-82cc-983600c1cefa.htm

the VR got a jump but the accord caught him at the top of 3rd. arent the Mk2's suppost to be lighter?it was all over after 3rd. hey the VR sounded nice

btw that was a CD heavier than a CB check it out

[MIami-boy]

i have a completely stock vr6 + slight weight reduction and i'll race a lude :lmfao:

its not a lude it's an accord with a h22 swap. wut so funny?:thinking:

[MIami-boy]

go with the vr6!!! i used to have a 97 jetta vr6, man i loved that car if i ever get enough money im buying another vr6.

also i dont think the clip of the vr6 doesnt represent it very well so i have some of my old car

http://media.putfile.com/jetta-vr6-removed-suitcase-muffler

http://media.putfile.com/jetta-vr6-lunching-1st-gear-only

nice id man:goodjob: they sound really good very throaty was that yours?

[4dmin]

its not a lude it's an accord with a h22 swap. wut so funny?:thinking:

b/c i don't have a 3000lbs dub :goodjob:

[MIami-boy]

im going by wut the kid said he said the big motor in is car made it weigh roughly in the 3k range. but w/e wut do u have

[Jecht]

I would seriously take the 1.8T. If you either plan to leave it completely stock other than bolt ons like an exhaust, just go for the VR6 because it makes a beautiful sound with a good exhaust. It takes a LOT of money to get more power out of a VR6.

[thegreatfnr]

I would seriously take the 1.8T. If you either plan to leave it completely stock other than bolt ons like an exhaust, just go for the VR6 because it makes a beautiful sound with a good exhaust. It takes a LOT of money to get more power out of a VR6.

That was my reasoning too when I bought my 1.8T GTI even though I wrecked it (bad on my part) I always wished it was a VR cause with the amount of money Ive had to spend on cars in the past year/year 1/2 I coulda gone turbo VR which has way more power potential than the 1.8T. Im actually going back and putting one in my jetta ASAP to make up for my errors before.

The 1.8T you can make quick for cheap. Yea the VR to get big power is more money but you gotta pay to play. Plus to get a 1.8T to VRT standards it would take more money than it woulda to go with the VRT.

Lee :cheers:

[4dmin]

im going by wut the kid said he said the big motor in is car made it weigh roughly in the 3k range. but w/e wut do u have

i have a vr6 in a mk2 87' gti (see pic below)... and that motor isn't as big as you think, its probably one of the smallest v6's on the planet and if the guy has chip as you stated then he is probably running roughly 170+whp/160+lbs

the vr6 just has way more potential then 1.8t if you have the $$$... i know alot of people have been all about boost but look what you can do NA \/

http://www.techtonicstuning.com/images/dyno/racerabbit.gif

[benwaballs]

if your going to do just bolt ons do a 1.8t if you plan on saving some coin and doing a BT get the vr6. both motors cost the same to BT but the vr6 is way better platform.

[MIami-boy]

i have a vr6 in a mk2 87' gti (see pic below)... and that motor isn't as big as you think, its probably one of the smallest v6's on the planet and if the guy has chip as you stated then he is probably running roughly 170+whp/160+lbs

the vr6 just has way more potential then 1.8t if you have the $$$... i know alot of people have been all about boost but look what you can do NA \/

http://www.techtonicstuning.com/images/dyno/racerabbit.gif

hot damn !!!!!!:cry: :eek: those are some serious number i give u props:goodjob:
i dont think the accord can hang with that. 11.5 sec 1/4 mile wow very impressive. are those shrick cams? well very nice it's cool to learn some diffrent things i didnt know VW's had so much potential

[4dmin]

hot damn !!!!!!:cry: :eek: those are some serious number i give u props:goodjob:
i dont think the accord can hang with that. 11.5 sec 1/4 mile wow very impressive. are those shrick cams? well very nice it's cool to learn some diffrent things i didnt know VW's had so much potential

thats not my dub but just what you can do w/ NA vr6... vr6/1.8t are very capable of 13 sec 1/4 w/ very little mods. if the guy talking shit was in a 1.8t i would say he would wax you; but since its a vr6 and your setup w/ the numbers you posted, it will come down to driver + traction.

[MIami-boy]

yea drivers race ok. the one u posted for sale is yours?

[4dmin]

yea drivers race ok. the one u posted for sale is yours?

yup that the one i'm selling.

[gtikid]

hot damn !!!!!!:cry: :eek: those are some serious number i give u props:goodjob:
i dont think the accord can hang with that. 11.5 sec 1/4 mile wow very impressive. are those shrick cams? well very nice it's cool to learn some diffrent things i didnt know VW's had so much potential

Which is why I said, I love how much people underestimate VW's :goodjob:

[4dmin]

Which is why I said, I love how much people underestimate VW's :goodjob:

beyond the eletrical nightmares they are great cars w/ hella torque

[FNR32]

I love my R32. I didnt think i would b/c i was coming for a 300+WHP WRX and well my R isnt 300whp. But the power it has is so smooth, and the other things make up for the power loss. Ive got a CIA and tune and ive run 13.4's in it. With real mods, im sure the car would open up a good bit.

[4dmin]

I love my R32. I didnt think i would b/c i was coming for a 300+WHP WRX and well my R isnt 300whp. But the power it has is so smooth, and the other things make up for the power loss. Ive got a CIA and tune and ive run 13.4's in it. With real mods, im sure the car would open up a good bit.

thats a very underrated car... it does amazing on a road course check out the HOT LAP times from Top Gear... ;)

and the interior is to die for :idb:

[gtikid]

beyond the eletrical nightmares they are great cars w/ hella torque

Yea that's what turns a lot of people away from VW's. I mean, if the parts were cheap to fix the electrical problems, it wouldn't really be big problems. But parts are exxxxxpensive!!!

[Kyle]

No electrical problems ever for me...

[FNR32]

The only electrical issue i have had so far is a blown fuse (fuel pump fues) and the car wouldnt start. Other than that, ive had no issues what so ever. I think it's all in the upkeep. If you keep your car like a POS, it will end up like one.

[FNR32]

thats a very underrated car... it does amazing on a road course check out the HOT LAP times from Top Gear... ;)

and the interior is to die for :idb:
Where can i find these HOT LAP times from Top Gear sir? :boobies:

[gtikid]

No electrical problems ever for me...

Knock on wood man....

[gtikid]

The only electrical issue i have had so far is a blown fuse (fuel pump fues) and the car wouldnt start. Other than that, ive had no issues what so ever. I think it's all in the upkeep. If you keep your car like a POS, it will end up like one.

That's not always true. If it were true, then they wouldn't send out recalls to fix the brake light switch, the fallen windows, the airbags popping out randomnly, the left headlight going out by itself, the heated seats catching fire :goodjob:

[Kyle]

Knock on wood man....

Well it is going to live with someone else so they can deal with it. I am sure I will have fun though on the Black Anniversary edition I am getting. I plan to do a little to it and possibly do a K04 turbo upgrade in time, thoughts?

[gtikid]

Well it is going to live with someone else so they can deal with it. I am sure I will have fun though on the Black Anniversary edition I am getting. I plan to do a little to it and possibly do a K04 turbo upgrade in time, thoughts?

Congrats :goodjob: ...20th AE's are awesome

How much power do you plan on making?

[4dmin]

Well it is going to live with someone else so they can deal with it. I am sure I will have fun though on the Black Anniversary edition I am getting. I plan to do a little to it and possibly do a K04 turbo upgrade in time, thoughts?

with a K04 tuned right w/ the upgrades injectors, n75, fmic, maf, etc... you will easily be 250whp/300lbs... i was reading recently about some k04 guys in the 260-270whp range. everything is going to be on your tune.


Here are the Power Lap Times for Top Gear \/ notice the R32 over the S4, 350z, Rx8, M3 :eek: ... granted track conditions mean alot when they do this but i have no doubt that it can hang w/ many of the cars in the bottom half on a road course


http://forums.importatlanta.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=64736&stc=1

[gtikid]

with a K04 tuned right w/ the upgrades injectors, n75, fmic, maf, etc... you will easily be 250whp/300lbs... i was reading recently about some k04 guys in the 260-270whp range. everything is going to be on your tune.

How much were you making on stock turbo Paul? I know you had a lot of work put into it, but what were the #s?

[Kyle]

Congrats :goodjob: ...20th AE's are awesome

How much power do you plan on making?

Well, I haven't sold it yet... I have found a good 20th AE, but I don't know if it would be boring to get another GTI. I like mine now, but am wondering if I will regret this and still want a faster car.

[4dmin]

How much were you making on stock turbo Paul? I know you had a lot of work put into it, but what were the #s?


my car did 220whp/285lbs w/ NO fan blowing on the FMIC... with a few more parts it would easily make 225+whp/290+lbs on the k03...

the 1.8t is a beast of a motor, but it all comes down to the parts you purchase... w/ under 3 grand you can easily do what i did on a 1.8t.

[gtikid]

Well, I haven't sold it yet... I have found a good 20th AE, but I don't know if it would be boring to get another GTI. I like mine now, but am wondering if I will regret this and still want a faster car.

You won't. You will have a lot more fun with a 20th. The car itself already looks damn nice, and you'll have a lot more fun modding it than the one you currently own :goodjob: . Besides, if your not trying to mod it that much, you'll have loads of fun with the 20th. They can be quick, which seems like is what your looking for correct? Nothing ridiculous?

[FNR32]

That's not always true. If it were true, then they wouldn't send out recalls to fix the brake light switch, the fallen windows, the airbags popping out randomnly, the left headlight going out by itself, the heated seats catching fire :goodjob:Werent these problems mainly on the older mk4's Pre 03-04 and older?

[gtikid]

Werent these problems mainly on the older mk4's Pre 03-04 and older?

I believe so. Everyone that i've heard had these problems had an '01.

[Kyle]

You won't. You will have a lot more fun with a 20th. The car itself already looks damn nice, and you'll have a lot more fun modding it than the one you currently own :goodjob: . Besides, if your not trying to mod it that much, you'll have loads of fun with the 20th. They can be quick, which seems like is what your looking for correct? Nothing ridiculous?

Since the VW people are on this thread right now, I figure I will let you in on my plans just to see what you think.

Black 20th AE.
GIAC X+ ECU
Use my current Evolution Motorsports Intake
Take out the resonator on the exhaust
Turbosmart Dual Port BOV(STFU I can choose to recirculate 100% if I want to!!!)
Maybe a FMIC
Boost Gauge and Wideband O2 sensor on steering wheel

Nothing big to start, I will do more in time if I want...
And I don't want to screw witht the body as it is a Special Edition and looks pretty good, I will smoke the side and corner markers.

[4dmin]

Werent these problems mainly on the older mk4's Pre 03-04 and older?

umm don't know about that... mine golf was 01 1.8t and my jetta is 00 2.0... i haven't hand any issues w/ either except for MAF when i did all of the shit to the 1.8t.

[thegreatfnr]

Since the VW people are on this thread right now, I figure I will let you in on my plans just to see what you think.

Black 20th AE.
GIAC X+ ECU
Use my current Evolution Motorsports Intake
Take out the resonator on the exhaust
Turbosmart Dual Port BOV(STFU I can choose to recirculate 100% if I want to!!!)
Maybe a FMIC
Boost Gauge and Wideband O2 sensor on steering wheel

Nothing big to start, I will do more in time if I want...
And I don't want to screw witht the body as it is a Special Edition and looks pretty good, I will smoke the side and corner markers.

X+ is definatly the way to go for the stock turbo but even though you can recirculate the BOV you still should go with a nice DV or do you just like if for the sound :gay:

Id say other than that you look like you got a good plan but I would look into getting a 3" or 2.5" downpipe that will give you a good bump in power and help the turbo spool a lil quicker.

Who are you getting a dual guage from for mounting on the steering wheel. Its personal preference but I dont like those as opposed to A-pillar guages. I always hated how the ones on the steering wheel get in the way of the clock and guages.

Lee :cheers:

[4dmin]

X+ is definatly the way to go for the stock turbo but even though you can recirculate the BOV you still should go with a nice DV or do you just like if for the sound :gay:

Id say other than that you look like you got a good plan but I would look into getting a 3" or 2.5" downpipe that will give you a good bump in power and help the turbo spool a lil quicker.

Who are you getting a dual guage from for mounting on the steering wheel. Its personal preference but I dont like those as opposed to A-pillar guages. I always hated how the ones on the steering wheel get in the way of the clock and guages.

Lee :cheers:

something i found is if you want to run a DV and want it alittle louder run a short ram over a CAI... techtonics makes a nice 2.5" dp + hi flo cat :goodjob:

[Kyle]

X+ is definatly the way to go for the stock turbo but even though you can recirculate the BOV you still should go with a nice DV or do you just like if for the sound :gay:

Id say other than that you look like you got a good plan but I would look into getting a 3" or 2.5" downpipe that will give you a good bump in power and help the turbo spool a lil quicker.

Who are you getting a dual guage from for mounting on the steering wheel. Its personal preference but I dont like those as opposed to A-pillar guages. I always hated how the ones on the steering wheel get in the way of the clock and guages.

Lee :cheers:


You can't use a pillar gauges on 00's up due to the fact that they have curtain airbags that come out of the a pillar.

You can get it from some catalog or one of those momentum website it's in my favorites somwhere.

In regards to the BOV that is a typical vw response, no offense, but there is no room for personal prefrence with vw owners it has to be one way or it's gay or rice.

[thegreatfnr]

something i found is if you want to run a DV and want it alittle louder run a short ram over a CAI... techtonics makes a nice 2.5" dp + hi flo cat :goodjob:

Thats what I did and it was plenty loud.

Plus that BOV vs DV thing has been beatin to death in other forums. The only way a BOV works right on these cars is to recirculate all the air and by doing this you essentially make a DV, so why not just buy a DV to do what it was made for.

Lee :cheers:

[thegreatfnr]

You can't use a pillar gauges on 00's up due to the fact that they have curtain airbags that come out of the a pillar.

You can get it from some catalog or one of those momentum website it's in my favorites somwhere.

In regards to the BOV that is a typical vw response, no offense, but there is no room for personal prefrence with vw owners it has to be one way or it's gay or rice.

I had the a-pillar guages on my 04 GTI. Never had the airbag go off so I never had that problem :D

FYI its not the typical VW owner response its the logical response on how these cars work.

[GermanMuscle]

nice id man:goodjob: they sound really good very throaty was that yours?

yea just sold it not too long ago, maybe like 3 weeks ago or something like that. I wish i still had it, great cars:goodjob:

[Kyle]

FYI its not the typical VW owner response its the logical response on how these cars work.

No, I understand the whole thing with MAF's running rich and stuff. I got it... And our bosch diverter works well enough that it probably isn't necessary to pay upwards of $150 on a forged diverter valve. I just simply want to try the dual port out, I may change my mind and put the money towards suspension.

It is a logical response but it is also the VW response when you called the sound :gay: .

[Kyle]

I would never go short ram though I love my evoms cai. It sounds great, everyone likes it.