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93H22ACX
10-06-2006, 10:32 AM
We'd like to thank Alex for making us an awesome manifold and thanks to Ed from Balanced Performance for always tuning our cars for us on his day off....

Other thanks to Danny for helping with misc BS stuff on the car lol.


36psi on Super T76 turbo.


with 750whp it ran and a 1.9 60ft it ran 10.1@151mph a week before we dynoed.

with 883whp TURBO ONLY it broke the dss stage 5 axles going form 3rd to 4th on 24.5x9x13 slicks.

once we get the axle situation situated it'll be out for some more runs....

DYNO VIDEO (http://s35.photobucket.com/albums/d151/93H22ACX/?action=view&current=MOV08060.flv)

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d151/93H22ACX/883whp.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d151/93H22ACX/DSC08095.jpg

B18c1Turboed
10-06-2006, 10:34 AM
HAHA!! thats on 36psi only..Post that 48 PSi dyno man!!!:taun:

iloveboost
10-06-2006, 10:53 AM
Insane power. 880 turbo only is impressive.

I take it you'll be ready for Import Face Off, eh?

10,500 redline! Heh.

Good job guys.

93H22ACX
10-06-2006, 10:59 AM
thanks daniel... we'll be ready when the axle comes back

it'll make 900+whp when we get the cam gears tuned in...right now its at 0,0..



Insane power. 880 turbo only is impressive.

I take it you'll be ready for Import Face Off, eh?

10,500 redline! Heh.

Good job guys.

Vteckidd
10-06-2006, 11:03 AM
SICK power

93H22ACX
10-06-2006, 02:08 PM
SICK power

thanks... any update on the 2JZ

99SI
10-06-2006, 03:27 PM
Once again setting the bar high for everyone else in the area. I hope you get some axles that'll take that abuse and get some good clean runs in to really get to see the true abilities of that car. Good job.

Vteckidd
10-06-2006, 03:31 PM
thanks... any update on the 2JZ


Still being built havent had time to work on it yet :goodjob:

93H22ACX
10-06-2006, 04:23 PM
Once again setting the bar high for everyone else in the area. I hope you get some axles that'll take that abuse and get some good clean runs in to really get to see the true abilities of that car. Good job.

someone from h-t said that the dss stage 5 axles we had are the old stage 5's...2003 model...and is nothing like the new stage 5's now. so we'll see what happens....

AnclyT
10-06-2006, 04:35 PM
that car's a monster..

WINDSOR
10-06-2006, 05:07 PM
weak! I make more torque on my mustang with only 10 psi! Kidding though....awesome numbers! I'll run peter! in the 1/8! :D

93H22ACX
10-06-2006, 05:55 PM
sure if you ever get ur mustang running and show up to the track :D

and if you do...i'll race you too...on foot! since i dont have a car to race anymore :(

HiPSI
10-07-2006, 09:50 AM
the car is sex on wheels. i thought he was crazy getting rid of the hatch, but this is another step up for sure. once i get the engine rebuilt i'll have to head up on a friday night if you guys will be at the track :).

Five*Star*
10-07-2006, 10:02 AM
Wow, awesome results so far on that car. Who did the machine work on the motor.... Bryan?

BTLFED
10-07-2006, 10:09 AM
That shit is obsurd! :eek: :goodjob:

RISKYB
10-07-2006, 10:36 AM
good job guys

green91
10-08-2006, 06:04 PM
Wow thats insane. Nice job once again guys!

SLow_POke
10-08-2006, 08:20 PM
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo

loved the spooking sound. good job mang . thats some sick numbers:goodjob:



-Ernie

CHADbee
10-09-2006, 07:18 PM
thats crazy. wow.

1insaneR
10-09-2006, 07:36 PM
one day.... one day.....

1439/2000
10-09-2006, 07:53 PM
Almost 900 whp and it looks good. Why dont other companies follow that mold?

+1

thinkskater
10-09-2006, 11:33 PM
i love it when it hit full boost it was fucking crazy as hell

atlxkevinx
10-10-2006, 12:55 AM
god damn.. that thing is pretty sickkkkkkkkkkkk

Repost Squintz
10-10-2006, 12:56 AM
thats sick

4dmin
10-10-2006, 01:04 AM
wow just wow

93H22ACX
10-10-2006, 07:03 AM
thanks guys..im sure peter appreciates the comments! it will hit 900whp just on turbo as soon as the cam gears are dailed in....

hopefully the axle will be back soon so he can get some seat time....its only been partial runs...

BTEC
10-10-2006, 07:10 AM
thanks guys..im sure peter appreciates the comments! it will hit 900whp just on turbo as soon as the cam gears are dailed in....

hopefully the axle will be back soon so he can get some seat time....its only been partial runs...
PETER THINKS HIS CAR IS STRONG?
MINE IS STRONGER.
HE THINKS HE FAST DOES HE?
OH, IM MUCH FASTER.

THATS ALL I COULD THINK OF, YEAH I SUCK. :(

BUT YEAH CAR IS SICK. DIDNT GET TO SEE IT RUN BUT I GOT A FEELING. I HAVE YET TO BE DISAPPOINTED BY PETERS PERFORMANCES.

miro_gt
10-13-2006, 04:10 PM
god damn ...


insane power

2.3 Evo 8
10-14-2006, 01:11 AM
Very impressive.

v8killr
10-30-2006, 08:12 PM
900whp is attainable! 36psi netted 883? Pretty nice man! I was comparing the t76 he is using to a friend of mines gt4294r dyno and it looks as if BOTH turbos spool CLOSE as hell! With the 42r and 32psi we hit 860whp. Not to shabby! Is the t76 a dual ball-bearing? Because that thing spools FAST!

The Yousef
10-30-2006, 08:14 PM
my god in heaven... :eek:

HeLLo iM iZzY
10-30-2006, 08:18 PM
SICK Integra man...good job !

93H22ACX
10-31-2006, 06:24 AM
900whp is attainable! 36psi netted 883? Pretty nice man! I was comparing the t76 he is using to a friend of mines gt4294r dyno and it looks as if BOTH turbos spool CLOSE as hell! With the 42r and 32psi we hit 860whp. Not to shabby! Is the t76 a dual ball-bearing? Because that thing spools FAST!

what a/r is the 42R? the one we are using is alot smaller. than 1.xx a/r but it is a 76mm turbo...a bit larger also.

I was comparing it to the the 42R of joe simpson's and the Super T76 has more of broader power band IMO....its at 800whp for about 2700rpm or so.....

Joe, do you know how many rpm's the 42R produces 800whp on your friends car?

iloveboost
10-31-2006, 08:27 AM
Did you guys get the axles worked out yet?

93H22ACX
10-31-2006, 09:47 AM
still hasnt come back from DSS yet

iloveboost
10-31-2006, 09:58 AM
=|

B18c1Turboed
10-31-2006, 10:08 AM
900whp is attainable! 36psi netted 883? Pretty nice man! I was comparing the t76 he is using to a friend of mines gt4294r dyno and it looks as if BOTH turbos spool CLOSE as hell! With the 42r and 32psi we hit 860whp. Not to shabby! Is the t76 a dual ball-bearing? Because that thing spools FAST!

Ok this is Peters Dyno
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d151/93H22ACX/883whp.jpg


Now this is Joe simpsons GT42R dyno chart
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v178/sixtylbsofboost/42rdyno.jpg

josh green
10-31-2006, 12:17 PM
Thats pretty close, you can tell that extra 6mm is helping you up top. His falls off around 9200 and peters is pretty flat up to 10500. Thats pretty badass, but that would allow for traps higher than nhra wants to see.

10500, is just crazy, thats A LOT of stress on the crank. Peter assemble the motor, or have it sent to Jim Justice or some place?

93H22ACX
10-31-2006, 01:14 PM
peter builds and assembles all his motors....no one does but him. only thing that other people do is porting of head, cutting of valves, whatever the machine shop can do.

what would make u think he has someone else build his motor??? J/C

its racing... anything above stock is alot of stress



Thats pretty close, you can tell that extra 6mm is helping you up top. His falls off around 9200 and peters is pretty flat up to 10500. Thats pretty badass, but that would allow for traps higher than nhra wants to see.

10500, is just crazy, thats A LOT of stress on the crank. Peter assemble the motor, or have it sent to Jim Justice or some place?

B18c1Turboed
10-31-2006, 01:14 PM
10500, is just crazy, thats A LOT of stress on the crank. Peter assemble the motor, or have it sent to Jim Justice or some place?

Motor was asembled by Peter, so if it blows he can only blame himself.Also we dont plan on running NHRA races so for the Ndra the turbo is perfect!! He couldnt run NHRA if he wanted to the air/water intercooler

Vteckidd
10-31-2006, 01:22 PM
10,500 is crazy, but with a turbo that big, its neccesary. Hell terry was revving his to 10,500 2 yers ago on his 700whp b16 lol.

Dont worry bee and danny, the Rome boys are too scared to cross the 9000rpm threshold, i have to yell at them to rev it above that.

if my STOCK GSR rods could handle 9700rpms, then i would expect a forged rod to be able to handle 10,000

93H22ACX
10-31-2006, 01:25 PM
lol...

B18c1Turboed
10-31-2006, 01:27 PM
If you look at peters Dyno chart he could have stopped at 9K and made the same amount of HP.

B18c1Turboed
10-31-2006, 01:32 PM
Anyways look at the dyno charts tough mid range on peters turbo flows so much better, at 6500 hes like 600 and the gt42r is at 450.I would recommend that turbo to everyone. the gt42r is overrated

Vteckidd
10-31-2006, 01:36 PM
Anyways look at the dyno charts tough mid range on peters turbo flows so much better, at 6500 hes like 600 and the gt42r is at 450.I would recommend that turbo to everyone. the gt42r is overrated

on a 4 cylinder i agree, i think its VERY overrated.

Evil Goat
10-31-2006, 01:47 PM
nice #'s, and one sexy ass car, good job

93H22ACX
10-31-2006, 02:47 PM
i would personally get a t3/t4 57 trim, boost 20-30psi and race peter on the street from stop light to stop light :D

josh green
10-31-2006, 02:48 PM
peter builds and assembles all his motors....no one does but him. only thing that other people do is porting of head, cutting of valves, whatever the machine shop can do.

what would make u think he has someone else build his motor??? J/C

its racing... anything above stock is alot of stress
Just wandering, i know most people that build motors for that kind of power don't assemble them themselves. I didnt know if he had opted to send it to Jim Justice or something.

Danny, I was just stating the difference in the turbo's from what the NHRA limit is. For the restrictions they have the 42R is the best. Peter is right at 540whp @6500, but i see what you are saying, its making 100 more whp.

Mike, you are not yelling at us to rev it higher, we arent the ones tuning the car..... Most dont rev over 9500rpm, powerband is an opinionated subject, especially since some engine managements allow you to launch at 20+psi.

93H22ACX
10-31-2006, 02:50 PM
yeah i think SFWD's limit is 70mm or was it 72mm:???:

josh green
10-31-2006, 02:52 PM
if you hadnt asked I could have told you :???:

The 4294 has the largest compressor wheel that they can use, 72mm.

the 4202 is a 74mm.

BLK JDM
10-31-2006, 03:00 PM
Fuck SFWD. TurboStreet is where it's at!!! hahaha j/k

I'm debating whether to go air/water or just regular front mount. I doubt I'll ever race at a NHRA event. They are mostly west coast events except for Moroso or Atco.

It's amazing the powerband of Peter's car and how it fast that big as turbo spools.

I have to rebuild shortblocks every once in a blue moon here at Nissan but when my block gets back we all know that Peter's assembling it!! I trust my work w/ a customer's car but just like many raceshops throughout the world THEY TRUST SOMEOONE ELSE TO BUILD THEIR RACE CARS!!

Now hopefully I'll be building my own streetcar motor sooner or later but NOT the racecar. I don't care what people say about me but I'm a realist as I've always said. Just keepin it real.

josh green
10-31-2006, 03:08 PM
Yeah, there is a thread going on on H-T talking about people building engines that will make 800whp and people that build 800whp engines that will last. I mean it would be badass sending an engine to jim justice and i wouldnt feel ashamed in the slightest is a shop like that built a motor for me. It just a motor needs freshening up after a season and I wouldnt send it back to them to be freshened up. Because you putting new bearings and rings and all that wouldnt be any different than putting it all together yourself. All of their torque and clearance specs are gone once its disassembled, or the bearings are worn. I mean hell I wouldnt doubt it if the sponsored guys have a fully rebuilt engine I.E. all new parts, every season. I just dont see that necessary. But you do pay for knowledge, and if they can build a motor that makes more/same power at less boost and last longer then thats badass.

josh green
10-31-2006, 03:15 PM
in regard about the 42R being overplayed, I could say it has been to an extent , BUT the fastest guys are using it. BUT its not not the reason they are the fastest, and I dont think a lot of people understand that.

BLK JDM
10-31-2006, 03:21 PM
Yeah I know exactly the thread you're talking about. The best reply on that thread is:

There's a difference between assembling a motor and building a motor.

Anybody can go get a Helms manual and assemble a motor. But builders generally know the ins and out and special "tricks" to doing it better than stock. Not just better than stock internals.

There's a big difference in assembling and actually building such as stretching the rod bolts, filing the rings, gapping the rings, and better torque specs for the type of motor you're building.

Generally builders have years of experience and many trial and error moments that no one knows about.

I respect and appreciate Peter b/c of the longevity of all his last race motors on his old hatch. Which only totalled 2(one stock) and one built. Both lasted full seasons of racing and way too many Fast Fridays, Import Showdowns, Import Face-offs, and TunerFest shootouts w/o a hiccup.

Now I'm not saying he didn't have other accessory problems such as axles, turbos, and the occasional main relay but the longblock held together like a champ.

Oh and I know many people are gonna say you really don't know what happens after hours or how many times he tore it down and found a problem-but my reply is I DO!! And many of his friends and family(Bee) also know that he didn't have any problems and wasn't doing overnight rebuilds so people wouldn't find out.

Vteckidd
10-31-2006, 03:26 PM
I have to rebuild shortblocks every once in a blue moon here at Nissan but when my block gets back we all know that Peter's assembling it!! I trust my work w/ a customer's car but just like many raceshops throughout the world THEY TRUST SOMEOONE ELSE TO BUILD THEIR RACE CARS!!



i had to quote that for the next time you say something about me not building my 2.0l motor LOL

but i do agree with you

Vteckidd
10-31-2006, 03:31 PM
Anyoen can build a motor with a helms manual, but getting the right bearing clearances on the rods an mains for the type of motor you are building is an industry secret.

The big guys like Jim, Don, Skunk, IPS, Inline pRo, Abacus, RLZ , etc have blown up enough motors or built enough to know that 3 though tighter on the mains gains 7whp on an NA motor, but decreases longevity or life of the motor. oops , i said too much :)

but yes, there is no shame in having a PROFESIONAL build your race motor, whether its peter, dfe, justice race engines, mspi, rlz, benson, GE, etc.

some shops SPECIALIZE in race motors, we usually build any motor under 600whp, anything over that we leave to others that can handle those kind of motors and have tons of experience with that kind of motor. we build mostly street cars.

thats why i laugh everytime i hear someone bitch about ACL bearings. about how they are only greens an you need to color code them to have the right "built motor". that person knows nothing about BUILDING a motor.

BLK JDM
10-31-2006, 03:50 PM
i had to quote that for the next time you say something about me not building my 2.0l motor LOL

but i do agree with you

Sorry buddy we've had plenty of spats but never got on you for not building your motor. If I remember correctly you and silviadriftr got on me about my last hatch when it was built allmotor then the guy that bought it wanted it turbo and I didn't tell yall(didn't know I had to) that I rebuilt the motor before he took the car back to Chi town.

Vteckidd
10-31-2006, 03:55 PM
its all good man, i was just poking fun at you. you know we are cool now

BLK JDM
10-31-2006, 03:58 PM
yeah I was just about to come edit my post and add that I'm not trying to start anything else just stating the facts.

Yeah I'm glad we're all cool now. It takes a lot out of you when you hate someone. No hate here. Just glad I can post on IA now and that I finally have another honda that'll be done sooner than later(hopefully).

B18c1Turboed
10-31-2006, 04:12 PM
DO you two need one now?


http://www.business-supply.com/product_images/image/EJ041338_facial-tissue-96-tissues-cube-box-8-4-5-x7-3-5-white.jpg

BLK JDM
10-31-2006, 04:24 PM
I knew you were gonna say something Danny! I just knew as soon as I posted that I figured I'd see a reply or get a phone call!!!

B18c1Turboed
10-31-2006, 04:32 PM
I knew you were gonna say something Danny! I just knew as soon as I posted that I figured I'd see a reply or get a phone call!!!


:taun:

Vteckidd
10-31-2006, 04:42 PM
LOL @DANNY

group HUG! SIKE

glad to hear your back in the honda game jerel, youve been gone for awhile

anothaRRR
10-31-2006, 05:33 PM
What a bunch of pansies....

kennyboi
10-31-2006, 06:20 PM
damn thats all I can say good job with that kind of power...

v8killr
10-31-2006, 07:14 PM
Anyways look at the dyno charts tough mid range on peters turbo flows so much better, at 6500 hes like 600 and the gt42r is at 450.I would recommend that turbo to everyone. the gt42r is overrated

Joe Simpson threw on that turbo and tuned it for the last few races of this season. He didnt spend the RIGHT amount of time on tuning it. He couldve gotten way more out of it! He made that power on a SHOT gt4294r. It was Cortney Greens turbo...and from what I heard Joe messed it up and thats why it wasnt making the power it shouldve been making.

As far as the 42r...I wouldnt go off saying its over rated yet. I have seen a chart (will have one posted up of a non dual-ball bearing gt4294 soon) of a 4294r and it was hitting full boost (38psi) at 5500rpms. Now you can do the math...32psi=860whp...38psi=???.

ANYWAYS, Im not getting into a pissing match here...all I wanted to know was if the t76 was dual ball bearing...thats all.

P.S. Ill have a dyno posted up for you all soon...non dual BB 4294. Spools 300rpm later and 1k cheaper. ;)

v8killr
10-31-2006, 07:22 PM
And to the dude stating that ALL the fast guys that are racing are runing the 42r...I understand COPLETELY that its not the turbo thats making them fast...its because theyve been racing for years and have sooo much seat time! PLUS the horsepower...but you have to get the power to the GROUND or else its just wasted power...lol!

Guys like these:

Tony Palo: 9.46 @ 158
Mat Keller: 9.47 @ 157
Cortney Green: 9.66 @ 152 (lot left in that car...he was at 32psi on that run!!!)

josh green
10-31-2006, 11:55 PM
Ball bearing turbo's are nice but are not worth the money for drag racing IMO. Hell borg warner's extended tip turbos are supposed to be better than ball bearing ones on all aspects. I personally would rather wait 300rpm later for a $1k difference. Ball bearing turbos have a lot of hype, daniels 630whp ls build actually spooled the same or around 100rpms later than spoolins last setup. Granted that it made a little more mid range, but the rpm at which it just took off was around the same or a little later. Just as Chris Rado has stated, ball bearing turbos are for slow shifting diesel trucks.

93H22ACX
11-01-2006, 06:24 AM
P.S. Ill have a dyno posted up for you all soon...non dual BB 4294. Spools 300rpm later and 1k cheaper. ;)

hmmmmmmm :D

i'd like to see that cause if thats the case....maybe i'll get one LOL...

iloveboost
11-01-2006, 08:13 AM
Ball bearing turbos have a lot of hype, daniels 630whp ls build actually spooled the same or around 100rpms later than spoolins last setup. Granted that it made a little more mid range, but the rpm at which it just took off was around the same or a little later.

Well, from what Charles has told me, there's still some room in the tune because the timing wasn't advanced much at all. I'd have to compare the same car with different turbos to really see the difference.

I'll probably get it retuned here in a few days or so and we'll see if anything changes.

josh green
11-01-2006, 09:01 AM
Well, from what Charles has told me, there's still some room in the tune because the timing wasn't advanced much at all. I'd have to compare the same car with different turbos to really see the difference.

I'll probably get it retuned here in a few days or so and we'll see if anything changes.
They were talking about adding timing in the top end. As I believe charles said scotty added timing up top and nothing changed. It doesnt really matter though. I think scotty is starting to learn how push a car and give the engine what it wants rather than "safe mode" lol.

B18c1Turboed
11-01-2006, 10:10 AM
Ok compare it too this gt42r dyno chart car was fully tuned!

http://dynos.evans-tuning.com/845whpciscoperformance.jpg

josh green
11-01-2006, 11:55 AM
thats about 70hp throught the powerband

BLK JDM
11-01-2006, 02:35 PM
Ball bearing turbo's are nice but are not worth the money for drag racing IMO. Hell borg warner's extended tip turbos are supposed to be better than ball bearing ones on all aspects. I personally would rather wait 300rpm later for a $1k difference. Ball bearing turbos have a lot of hype, daniels 630whp ls build actually spooled the same or around 100rpms later than spoolins last setup. Granted that it made a little more mid range, but the rpm at which it just took off was around the same or a little later. Just as Chris Rado has stated, ball bearing turbos are for slow shifting diesel trucks.


I've been looking into those BorgWarner extended tip turbos. Chris Anderson and whole AAP crew(3 race cars and 2 customer cars) have switched and all have seen dramatic decrease in there spool up times and some increase in top end hp and torque.

Everytime I go buy there Chris and Yamil tell me I should try it out. Louis Curujos(Paradise Racing Celica) was at AAP for a week switching from AEM to Motec on his race car and he swears up and down that the BorgWarner extended tip turbos are the new age of turbo performance w/o ball bearing center sections. I've been on the bulleyepower.com website and looked at graphs and all that but I really haven't seen any graphs of how that turbo will do on a 4 cylinder honda. They have graphs of other 4 cylinders(srt-4 neon, DSMs, and I think a celica).

If I had money to trial and error stuff then I'd love to be the 1st to try out a BorgWarner turbo on a TurboStreet Honda but for now w/ me being poor I'll let other people w/ deeper pockets figure out what works and what doesn't.

Vteckidd
11-01-2006, 02:50 PM
jerel there will be a comaprison of the Warner turbo vs a 40R VERY SOON

i have the inside info , ill share it with you when it goes down

josh green
11-01-2006, 03:24 PM
Well they are pretty pricey, but what larger turbo isnt at this time? I meant he 42R's have gone up in price $200 in the last few months. The BW turbo's have a stainless steel turbine housing which is pretty nice and also much safer than the traditional housings. The only reason that their turbos wont take off in the sfwd series and some others is b/c they use a t6 flange and most series only allow up to a t4 flange. I believe the s366 is supposed to out perform the 4067 in all aspects and i think the s471 is supposed to be in the same class as the 42R. Now there is a 4094R out and its priced pretty damn good($1550-1600) . I mean its $400 less than a 42R and its supports up to 850hp. Thats plenty enough power for any sportsman class.

Damn I am so ready to get the bugs worked out of spoolins car and get it on the track. Nothing more exciting than gross amounts of hp and trying to get the car down the track.

I think Jarel and I feel about the same. I havent been happy with a car since i sold the turbo motor that came in my green car, and you are now building up a car. So you are already 1 step ahead. :D

BLK JDM
11-01-2006, 05:06 PM
AAP Motorsports and Paradise Racing(Luis Curujos) are both dealers and are sponsored by BorgWarner. When I was doing my research I noticed that the larger turbos only came w/ the T6 flange vs. the T4 that most Hondas run. So I talked to Chris Anderson about getting them in a T4 flange and he wasn't sure. So then I called Paradise Racing and talked to Luis and he wasn't sure. Both called me back later and told me they can get whatever turbo I need w/ T4 flange.

Yamil's been on my ass to "take his word that I won't be disapointed w/ the results of their turbo." One of his customer's had the GT42R on a street supra and switched to the BorgWarner and it made more power but you have to look at what else was done to the vehicle. Generally people upgrade other aspects when switching turbos. You never really know the truth until you're the one under the knife.

BLK JDM
11-01-2006, 05:15 PM
jerel there will be a comaprison of the Warner turbo vs a 40R VERY SOON

i have the inside info , ill share it with you when it goes down


Yeah, seriously let me know about that one. I smell a new turbo on a blue EK in the near future!!

josh green
11-02-2006, 08:53 AM
Yeah, seriously let me know about that one. I smell a new turbo on a blue EK in the near future!!
Nah, that wont be happening, maybe a new map sensor more towards next season.

It sounds to me like your buddy just wants to sell you a turbo. I dont see how the "extended tip technology" would work on a "smaller" t4 flanged housing. There has to be some reason people arent using them, its not like they are "new and the next big craze"

Vteckidd
11-02-2006, 11:59 AM
the reviews on the warner turbos have been outstanding, but ive yet to see it on a honda, YET

josh green
11-02-2006, 10:13 PM
Bee,Peter, Jarel, Danny, Fonzo, etc...

You guys know anything about the VV manifold that Neukin has out? I guess its either a love it or hate it, but I was wanting to know where it is supposed to put the power band. It says that its a true equal length and I am sure that it would be good for top end but it has VERY short runner lengths and I am interested in what that would do with the midrange, as well as what size turbochargers you can run. I know yall are friends with the guy if you know or could find out anything. They do have some good ass prices on their manifolds, too bad that top mount isnt cosmetically appealing.

anothaRRR
11-02-2006, 10:18 PM
I know Peter did the testing on it before it was put in production...They tried it out but didnt tune it, just swapped manifolds, made like 600+whp I beleive, not exactly sure...Bee may know some more info as far as results...

josh green
11-03-2006, 04:36 PM
why was it lacking in the mid range? usually a shorter runner makes more mid range/ less laggy.

93H22ACX
11-03-2006, 06:28 PM
When the VV manifold was tested....we didnt get a chance to really get a full tune.....

it made more topend power than the regular ram style manifold but lacked like 20whp or so in the mid range.

topend gain was more than the 20whp loss in the mid-range so it was good. if we had more time to test it out with Ed tuning it...it would have been great.

KA98S10
11-04-2006, 06:35 PM
wow I just saw the video.. I remember when that was a bare block

josh green
11-05-2006, 01:16 AM
sweet, I have been looking around and I really like the manifolds that AFI (Arizona Forced Induction) is making. They are the ones building that 99-00 sfwd si coupe on h-t.

BLK JDM
11-05-2006, 10:19 AM
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1800735&page=2

This thread on H-T is about the new Turbonetics GT Killer turbos. People don't know what to think but Arturbo came in and replied about the new BorgWarner extended tip turbos.

Arturbo supposedly knows someone who tested the BorgWarner vs the Garrett GT and the Garrett outperformed the BorgWarner.

The test results WIL NOT be posted I guess b/c the test was done by a sponsored BorgWarner team.

Vteckidd
11-05-2006, 10:22 AM
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1800735&page=2

This thread on H-T is about the new Turbonetics GT Killer turbos. People don't know what to think but Arturbo came in and replied about the new BorgWarner extended tip turbos.

Arturbo supposedly knows someone who tested the BorgWarner vs the Garrett GT and the Garrett outperformed the BorgWarner.

The test results WIL NOT be posted I guess b/c the test was done by a sponsored BorgWarner team.
correct, the Borg turbo did NOT impress anyone. PM me for details i know whose car it was tested on

josh green
11-05-2006, 10:34 PM
They all break, they all blow, I will buy the best for what I can afford. That 4094R is looking good and its $400 less than the 4294R (which is now ridiculously priced)

BLK JDM
11-06-2006, 07:51 AM
sweet, I have been looking around and I really like the manifolds that AFI (Arizona Forced Induction) is making. They are the ones building that 99-00 sfwd si coupe on h-t.

Yeah that manifold is sick. I want to see the #s on it in the end. I think it'll do pretty well. It looks like a race manifold for a bike w/ the springs and all.

I was surprised that the turbo didn't sit as low as it seemed. It's placed pretty good b/c you don't have to scavenge the return line or anything. I was wondering about that when he 1st posted pics but then he posted new pics earlier this week of underneith the car and the turbo isn't in that crazy of a position.

josh green
11-06-2006, 08:26 AM
That car is probably my favorite sfwd build that going on on h-t, I guess b/c its a 99-00 coupe and I just about every drag car you see is a eg/ej civic or an dc integra, not too many EK, EM cars out there.

What to the springs do? Do they allow the runners to exspand under temerature and pressure? I know those springs on a bike are tight as shit.

v8killr
11-06-2006, 01:37 PM
Ok compare it too this gt42r dyno chart car was fully tuned!

http://dynos.evans-tuning.com/845whpciscoperformance.jpg


Danny, this goes to show you how illiterate you are...this dyno is on a gt4202r...WAY bigger then my turbo.

And Bee...I have a non dual BB 4294 now. When I went to Cortney's house to pickup my stuff and he showed me a dyno overlay between a gt4294r and the regular journal bearing gt4294 and it hit 827whp by 6800rpms. It spolls as fast a a t4 pt67. I seen the dyno and I was in doubt until I seen the dyno paper. Below is the dyno paper:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a286/joepiscapo_83/IMAGE_00013.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a286/joepiscapo_83/IMAGE_00014.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a286/joepiscapo_83/IMAGE_00015.jpg

v8killr
11-06-2006, 01:40 PM
Not that much difference as you can tell...the red line is the non dual BB one and the blue is the gt4294r. Just goes to show ya! ;)

Also, the dip in the redline is wheel spin incase youre wondering... :goodjob:

B18c1Turboed
11-06-2006, 02:47 PM
Danny, this goes to show you how illiterate you are...this dyno is on a gt4202r...WAY bigger then my turbo.

Really are you
http://forums.evans-tuning.com/viewtopic.php?t=3373

v8killr
11-07-2006, 09:58 AM
Really are you
http://forums.evans-tuning.com/viewtopic.php?t=3373

Dont you know that there is a gt4294r and a gt4202r turbos. TWO COMPLETLY diffierent turbos. The 42rs is a gt4202...WAYYY bigger! :eek:

Mike69
11-10-2006, 12:03 PM
imperseve

LS2ner
11-13-2006, 06:27 PM
Come on guys.. keep your arguein out of the thread! Awesome teggy build guys. If i remember right, were u gonna sell the teggy awhile back(when it was basically stock)? Guess your glad ya didnt :)

93H22ACX
11-13-2006, 07:54 PM
Come on guys.. keep your arguein out of the thread! Awesome teggy build guys. If i remember right, were u gonna sell the teggy awhile back(when it was basically stock)? Guess your glad ya didnt :)

thanks... no not this one... peter had a white one that he sold a while ago...

LS2ner
11-13-2006, 08:05 PM
I thought the gunmetal colored one was for sale awhile back? It had gold volks on it. I guess i was wrong :(

93H22ACX
11-13-2006, 08:06 PM
I thought the gunmetal colored one was for sale awhile back? It had gold volks on it. I guess i was wrong :(

no..it was stolen....and it was in the stolen thread

LS2ner
11-13-2006, 08:23 PM
no..it was stolen....and it was in the stolen thread

Oh shit, thats sucks! I loved the thing :( Sorry to hear that. I dont ever check the Stolen threads since im not in the atlanta area right now. Well, cant wait to see the new dyno numbers.

93H22ACX
11-13-2006, 08:27 PM
Oh shit, thats sucks! I loved the thing :( Sorry to hear that. I dont ever check the Stolen threads since im not in the atlanta area right now. Well, cant wait to see the new dyno numbers.

yeah its been a while now since we recovered it.

new dynos will be up soon again...

josh green
11-13-2006, 09:31 PM
Did you guys have time to get the car apart and see what all was wrong? Hopefully it was just the gasket. We were running the shit out of spoolins car, it was really the 1st time at the track and he was trying to figure out the new controller and didnt qualify. So we said fuck it and ran t&t and his last run the car was hauling ass and popped the head gasket at the end of 3rd gear, was his fastest time of the day without being able to ride out 4th.

B18c1Turboed
11-14-2006, 10:24 AM
Did you guys have time to get the car apart and see what all was wrong? Hopefully it was just the gasket. We were running the shit out of spoolins car, it was really the 1st time at the track and he was trying to figure out the new controller and didnt qualify. So we said fuck it and ran t&t and his last run the car was hauling ass and popped the head gasket at the end of 3rd gear, was his fastest time of the day without being able to ride out 4th.

It was the HG.We learned are lesson we will have a extra HG with us each race now.

blacknightteg
11-14-2006, 10:31 AM
that thing is fast as shit and looks good. i want i want....but i damn sure know i cant have

josh green
11-14-2006, 12:10 PM
It was the HG.We learned are lesson we will have a extra HG with us each race now.
yeah, I heard yall had that thing apart at the track in like 35min. I was just wandering if anything else came up under further inspection. I guess its time we start cranking down head studs tighter than spec, idk.

B18c1Turboed
11-14-2006, 02:11 PM
yeah, I heard yall had that thing apart at the track in like 35min. I was just wandering if anything else came up under further inspection. I guess its time we start cranking down head studs tighter than spec, idk.

Yea.. Naw we had it taken apart and back toghter in 35mins, we busted ass on it,hoping it would hold out for 3 rounds,but kept leaking water in sleeves!! Oh well there always next year!!

BLK JDM
11-14-2006, 04:53 PM
Yeah I was surprised we were able to get that many hands in there and help Peter get it done. Too bad the outcome wasn't so good.

Now we know we can all work together!! We might as well bring extra trannies and longblocks to the track now!!!hahahah

Shit fuck it call us the ISP Race Team w/ all the cars that will be coming out next year in our camp!! Peter can be the manager/driver(just like John Force), Bee can be our tuner, I can be the technician/pit crew, Danny can be our P.R.(public relations-i.e. shitalker), and then we'll have the rest of the cars and drivers(Alfonso, Greg, Danny, Bee) like the 4 other cars that's under John Force's racing team.

B18c1Turboed
11-14-2006, 06:27 PM
I can be the technician/pit crew, .

yea right you can be the ALARM CLOCK!!

FYI he snores so damm loud i almost went to go sleep in the truck, i tought a damm plane was landing on are hotel room!!!

o_bomb
11-14-2006, 07:53 PM
that shit is CRAZY! u must be tryin to go to the moon in that shit!

JDMracer16
11-30-2006, 08:18 AM
That is retarted! Damn nice job!!!

v8killr
12-07-2006, 03:05 PM
Very nice work guys. Love that dyno video. That thing just comes alive instantly. lol! :goodjob:

josh green
12-07-2006, 11:26 PM
wow, back from the dead...........................