Flyin Cavy (bballjamal @ a mtn run)

[LiL PaKi]

So my first day checking out the mountain run before I actually bring my car out to run... Met a few cool guys... especially Jamal...

all was well till Jamal swerves a lil off the road... goes for a bit on grass hits a 2ft wall goes FLYING 3 FEET off the ground... manages to fall back in an empty grass area... breaks off his back bumper and has a radiator leak... my pics sucks (camera phone) but i'm sure COGcaviZ24 will post pictures from an actual camera... Jamal is at COGCaviZ24's shop trying to get his radiator fixed up... sorry i guess i didn't catch your name COGcavi... well it was nice meeting ya'll and i hope you get your car back in one piece Jamal!

[LiL PaKi]

some more... notice the bumper in the field... he jumped that far!

[LiL PaKi]

and more pics...

[LiL PaKi]

here are some random chillin pics from before the accident...

[LiL PaKi]

and some more...

[Annihilation]

Hit me up next time yall go ....i wanna go practice the Mtns too

[green91]

how the fuck do you manage that?

[twinj]

Dam jamalthat is fuck up. Hope it all work for the best for ya. (I don't think that is radiator fluid tho look like oil or something.)

[green91]

....


I'll just say I've been in the autoX and time attack scene for awhile with a stock suspension car with upgraded bushings and brakes and have since then added $1300 to the suspension alone. I've also been doing Mtn Runs in a state with 10x more drastic areas than anywhere I've found here yet.

If you were trying to warn any ricers about speeding around the Mtn to a point where they couldn't control it and possibly screw up someone else and/or your crew than I understand where you're coming from. I don't believe we have any of that kind coming with us on this sunday nor next sunday (which I'm hoping stays sunny). Take it easy man!

[BTLFED]

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BAHAHAHAHAHA!! :lmfao: :lmfao:

That, my friends, is the very definition of ownag3. Green91 is the fucking man. :goodjob:

[COGCaviZ24]

ahahaha lol THATS WHAT HE GETS FOR TAKING A DAMN CAVALIER TO A MOUNTAIN RUN....WTF WAS HE THINKING

his has $1300 in suspinsion. he just made a miscalulation

[BTLFED]

his has $1300 in suspinsion. he just made a miscalulation

If he has done soooooo many "Mtn Runs in a state with 10x more drastic areas than anywhere I've found here yet" how exactly do you miscalculate at a 10x LESS drastic area? Sounds like someone isn't as experienced as they let on to me....

[LiL PaKi]

the roads were kind of slick and not fully dry...

[Boosted S60R]

ouch that sucks good luck with the repairs.

[BTLFED]

the roads were kind of slick and not fully dry...

Then that makes even less sense that you guys were doing it to begin with.

Another reason why I never go on mountain runs with people on here. Everyone thinks they are a pro.

[YokotaS13]

ahahaha lol THATS WHAT HE GETS FOR TAKING A DAMN CAVALIER TO A MOUNTAIN RUN....WTF WAS HE THINKING
yeah no shit


You cant drive worth shit

[YokotaS13]

his has $1300 in suspinsion. he just made a miscalulation
so what?
i have 600 in coilovers, and i guarantee im faster and wont run off the road

[1439/2000]

Then that makes even less sense that you guys were doing it to begin with.

Another reason why I never go on mountain runs with people on here. Everyone thinks they are a pro.



Speaks the truth. +1

And green91 you get +1 too.

[green91]

lol thanks guys

[BTLFED]

Speaks the truth. +1

And green91 you get +1 too.

Shit. :(

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to 1439/2000 again.

[NewGen33]

Then that makes even less sense that you guys were doing it to begin with.

Another reason why I never go on mountain runs with people on here. Everyone thinks they are a pro.
Is there ever a beginner group that goes up there to get some experience?

[BTLFED]

Is there ever a beginner group that goes up there to get some experience?

I dunno, but I would rather see someone admit they are a n00b at it and drive accordingly then be around someone who says they are experienced and ends up like this guy did.

[green91]

Is there ever a beginner group that goes up there to get some experience?

Go up by yourself. The way to learn your limits and your car isnt necessarily following others, i gained alot of experience by driving in the mtns after school and durin free time by myself

[wantboost]

Is there ever a beginner group that goes up there to get some experience?
i can pm you some of the roads that i like. IMO it is better to go with 1 or 2 of your friends. A big group is nothing but trouble unless you are going for a cruise (again IMO).

[NewGen33]

i can pm you some of the roads that i like. IMO it is better to go with 1 or 2 of your friends. A big group is nothing but trouble unless you are going for a cruise (again IMO).
Ya man that would be great, I need to get up there sometime. It would be nice to have one or to more people come up also just in case something happens.

[LiL PaKi]

Go up by yourself. The way to learn your limits and your car isnt necessarily following others, i gained alot of experience by driving in the mtns after school and durin free time by myself

yea by following others you might be tempted to go faster than you actually can handle trying to catch up and then you're fucked.. but eventually you will be going in groups and you might have to catch up at times.. catch up in the straight areas not when it curves :yes: so my noob advice is dittoing green..you would be to get the feel for it yourself then practice on finding your limit... I might consider going by myself one day since I saw how it was today...

[NewGen33]

yea by following others you might be tempted to go faster than you actually can handle trying to catch up and then you're fucked.. but eventually you will be going in groups and you might have to catch up at times.. catch up in the straight areas not when it curves :yes: so my noob advice is dittoing green..you would be to get the feel for it yourself then practice on finding your limit... I might consider going by myself one day since I saw how it was today...
Good point I think I'll head up there by myself sometime in the future.
Finally boroke 100 :super:

[Dominic49]

here is the story.... dipped the right rear tire off and since the grass cambers away and was covered in dew it sucked him down and he was able to straighten out rather than do over that jump sideways and roll his ass into the trees..... BTW how many times have colin macrae, michael schumacher, and nicky lauda crashed.........

[green91]

true, 100+mph rally races are exactly like a low speed mtn run in cavaliers, right?

[GTScoob]

BTW how many times have colin macrae, michael schumacher, and nicky lauda crashed.........

Ha, I just chuckled a bit that you're comparing some amateur to a pro race driver pushing his car 110% and still maintaining control.

Sorry to see that your car is fucked up but glad to hear you're alright and the car isnt totaled. Last time I heard a similar story one of my friends slid his WRX halfway down a mudbank and totalled it. A lot of locals up in the mountains will spread gravel and oil on the curves just to force bikers and idiot drivers to slow down.

[BTLFED]

true, 100+mph rally races are exactly like a low speed mtn run in cavaliers, right?

Of course they are! So are F1 races! :rolleyes:

[COGCaviZ24]

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[DurtySpeed]

I'm not a cavi fan but it still sucks to see someone fuck up their ride when they were at least doing the kind of playing that doesn't put lots of others at risk... Thats how I feel about it anyways...

Good luck getting your shit fixed.

[COGCaviZ24]

it could have happened to anyone. that was my first mtn run, and i don't have a pricey suspension system. i didn't wreck, but i could have just as easily as anyone on here. hell one of those lotus's we saw up there could have wrecked when put in the same situtation

[dekalbsvt]

i didn't wreck, but i could have just as easily as anyone on here. hell one of those lotus's we saw up there could have wrecked when put in the same situtationyep thats the risk you take.

[COGCaviZ24]

regardless i had a blast! it made be that much more Enthusiastic about my car.



btw, no one ever said that jamal was an expert

[ORGANIZATIONXIII]

fuck.. that really sucks

[Bballjamal]

There are a lot of idiots on this board........I never said I was a pro driver or anything. Everyone has some slip up or fuck up once in awhile, and this was mine! At that point in time in driving we weren't even really gunning it, more of just cruising down into Helen to grab a bit to eat. Thanks to all of the more mature members of this site who had more concern to the situation! Nice hanging out with ya Lil Paki and Dominic! Nice E30 too!

Final toll on the car is a blown head, bent radiator support, killed rear bumper, and a slightly bent rear axle. Nothing serious at all for what actually happened and I'm surprised it stayed together as well as it did. Good time all in all!

[Bballjamal]

so what?
i have 600 in coilovers, and i guarantee im faster and wont run off the road

:gay: The "im better than you" remarks are always the coolest way to win the argument........

No one ever said they were the ubber greatness at a Mtn Run, I was just notifying the guy who posted in the other thread there's no one coming with a ricer mentality that would put others in danger. You can quote this and make your comments and whatever, but shit happens........plain and simple, get off your high horse of "I drive this car and I'm better" shit because no one cares.......

and I drive a cavalier........wOOt......

jokes about that were old 5yrs ago......welcome back to highschool

[spoon91]

There are a lot of idiots on this board........I never said I was a pro driver or anything. Everyone has some slip up or fuck up once in awhile, and this was mine! At that point in time in driving we weren't even really gunning it, more of just cruising down into Helen to grab a bit to eat. Thanks to all of the more mature members of this site who had more concern to the situation! Nice hanging out with ya Lil Paki and Dominic! Nice E30 too!

Final toll on the car is a blown head, bent radiator support, killed rear bumper, and a slightly bent rear axle. Nothing serious at all for what actually happened and I'm surprised it stayed together as well as it did. Good time all in all!
Only You Jamal Only You
Who the F**k would see the upside 2 this but You
Your Car is all F**ked up and Your like it was a Good Day.
F**k that I would by Pissed off like Hell if that was My $hit
But like I said Man Only You Dog.
I'm VERY Sorry 2 see the Old Girl like that I mean
We were just F**king around lastnight it's Crazy Bro it's Crazy
But I wish the Best of Luck 2 You and the Car Dog and
I'll hit You up soon and We'll talk but until then Take Care Bro.

[NewGen33]

Well glad you made it back in one piece. Not to many people will take a car they work that hard on and put it through something like that. Especially if its not designed to be doing those types of things.

[COGCaviZ24]

Only You Jamal Only You
Who the F**k would see the upside 2 this but You
Your Car is all F**ked up and Your like it was a Good Day.
F**k that I would by Pissed off like Hell if that was My $hit
But like I said Man Only You Dog.
I'm VERY Sorry 2 see the Old Girl like that I mean
We were just F**king around lastnight it's Crazy Bro it's Crazy
But I wish the Best of Luck 2 You and the Car Dog and
I hit You up soon and We'll talk but until then Take Care Bro.

i know right, jamal's a trooper. i'd be crying if i was in his shoes :goodjob: .

[spoon91]

:gay: The "im better than you" remarks are always the coolest way to win the argument........

No one ever said they were the ubber greatness at a Mtn Run, I was just notifying the guy who posted in the other thread there's no one coming with a ricer mentality that would put others in danger. You can quote this and make your comments and whatever, but shit happens........plain and simple, get off your high horse of "I drive this car and I'm better" shit because no one cares.......

and I drive a cavalier........wOOt......

jokes about that were old 5yrs ago......welcome back to highschool
I'm with You Dog that Thinking gets You nowhere
Don't let it get 2 You Bro
There will ALWAYS be someone being Rude about something and everything
I've F**ked My Car up before at the Track and on the Road
Like You said $HIT HAPPENS.

[Bballjamal]

Well glad you made it back in one piece. Not to many people will take a car they work that hard on and put it through something like that. Especially if its not designed to be doing those types of things.

Hey thanks man! That's what I like about it though! Taking a car that wasn't meant to do anything BUT be an economical grocery getter and turn it into something decent. That's why I find it HIGHLY hilarious that people with honda's, 240sx's, etc talk as much shiz as they do. True some may have that racing heritage behind their name but Nissan nor did Honda build their lower market cars to be anything of what they are today! People have done hardcore things with them to give them that "street rep" to where they're accpeted in most cases. I could care less if anyone ever respects a cavalier, but from knowing how shatty a cavalier comes, I have much respect to see what they're capable of and didn't mind investing money into mine to follow that path.


And Thanks Corey and Andy! Some people will never grow up no matter how much they put on the act.........

[5spdfrk]

So what's your explanation for this?
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i239/cogcaviz24/IMG_0187.jpg

[Bballjamal]

^^ There is none........look at the picture and call it how you see it.......

Constantly looking for drama = TeH :gay:

[spoon91]

Hey thanks man! That's what I like about it though! Taking a car that wasn't meant to do anything BUT be an economical grocery getter and turn it into something decent. That's why I find it HIGHLY hilarious that people with honda's, 240sx's, etc talk as much shiz as they do. True some may have that racing heritage behind their name but Nissan nor did Honda build their lower market cars to be anything of what they are today! People have done hardcore things with them to give them that "street rep" to where they're accpeted in most cases. I could care less if anyone ever respects a cavalier, but from knowing how shatty a cavalier comes, I have much respect to see what they're capable of and didn't mind investing money into mine to follow that path.


And Thanks Corey and Andy! Some people will never grow up no matter how much they put on the act.........
Your Welcome Bro Your Very Welcome
I know how big a Pain in the Ass it is 2 Build a Stock Civic
Are any Car 4 that Matter from Nothing 2 Something and
Your right Jamal it's alot of Hard Work but it's also alot of Fun 2 see
Just what You can do with it so once again YOUR VERY WELCOME!!!

[COGCaviZ24]

he was passing an annoyingly slow car. hell we all did that a couple times

[spoon91]

So what's your explanation for this?
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i239/cogcaviz24/IMG_0187.jpg
It's called a Good Time!!!
You should try it Oneday.

[5spdfrk]

^^ There is none........look at the picture and call it how you see it.......

Constantly looking for drama = TeH :gay:

Believe me, I am not looking for drama. There is enough on this site as it is. I am just trying to figure out why you are on the wrong side of the double yellow lines, when there is a curve right in front of you.

I sure would hate for someone else to be on a mountain run, and come flying the opposite way and hit you head on.

[5spdfrk]

he was passing an annoyingly slow car. hell we all did that a couple times
Ok, fine. Just let me know the next time you go to the mtns, so I wont.

[spoon91]

Ok, fine. Just let me know the next time you go to the mtns, so I wont.
OK!!! :D

[5spdfrk]

It's called a Good Time!!!
You should try it Oneday.
You know me, and you know I'm all for having a good time. There's a time and a place for everything. You should know that.

[Bballjamal]

I didn't take any crazy risks with passing! I do respect other drivers on the road (and anyone on this run will attest to me slowing down respectively for any biker, person hiking, or slow moving vehicle.) I'm not the one to fly past everyone doing 90 just to be ignorant and attempt to scare them. I'd hate to bring my little sister up there or friends just to encounter doing something crazy, so I keep that in mind also.

Edit: And if you want a viable excuse, I'm sure when Andy took that photo, he was much closer to Dominic in the e30! Because of the wide angle of the lense on the camera it makes everything look much more out of porportion than they really are! That curve wasn't anywhere near within 80ft of us, and Dominic wasn't 6 cars ahead of Andy! We stayed pretty tight after everyone figured out their limits in the beginning (I guess I didn't, OMG'ers lolerz....:rolleyes:)

And don't worry, I wouldn't want a nOOb who's arrogant to the fact that everyones car doesn't handle on rails with me on one anyone!

It's like nagging at someone who loves to drift when they spin their car into an embankment! It comes with the territory, get over it.....

[5spdfrk]

That's good to hear, but posting a pic like that will make people ask questions. Especially those who run the same roads you guys do.

[Bballjamal]

^^ True.....

[COGCaviZ24]

I didn't take any crazy risks with passing! I do respect other drivers on the road (and anyone on this run will attest to me slowing down respectively for any biker, person hiking, or slow moving vehicle.) I'm not the one to fly past everyone doing 90 just to be ignorant and attempt to scare them. I'd hate to bring my little sister up there or friends just to encounter doing something crazy, so I keep that in mind also.

Edit: And if you want a viable excuse, I'm sure when Andy took that photo, he was much closer to Dominic in the e30! Because of the wide angle of the lense on the camera it makes everything look much more out of porportion than they really are! That curve wasn't anywhere near within 80ft of us, and Dominic wasn't 6 cars ahead of Andy! We stayed pretty tight after everyone figured out their limits in the beginning (I guess I didn't, OMG'ers lolerz....:rolleyes:)

And don't worry, I wouldn't want a nOOb who's arrogant to the fact that everyones car doesn't handle on rails with me on one anyone!

It's like nagging at someone who loves to drift when they spin their car into an embankment! It comes with the territory, get over it.....

BINGO!!!

[COGCaviZ24]

That's good to hear, but posting a pic like that will make people ask questions. Especially those who run the same roads you guys do.

yea, i should have left that one out :) i was copy and pasting them, not examining the pictures very well in the process

[David88vert]

Food for thought.
I have been running up in the mtns for many, many years. It is a very rare occurance for me to make a mistake on the track or on the street; however, if you have not been off the road in the mtns at least a couple of times, it is highly unlikely that you will become very fast. In learning your personal and your vehicle limits, it is inevitable that you will make errors in judgement.
Learn from your mistakes and figure out how to avoid them next time. Do not let this be a lesson that you did not learn something from.

[wantboost]

Hey thanks man! That's what I like about it though! Taking a car that wasn't meant to do anything BUT be an economical grocery getter and turn it into something decent. That's why I find it HIGHLY hilarious that people with honda's, 240sx's, etc talk as much shiz as they do. True some may have that racing heritage behind their name but Nissan nor did Honda build their lower market cars to be anything of what they are today! People have done hardcore things with them to give them that "street rep" to where they're accpeted in most cases. I could care less if anyone ever respects a cavalier, but from knowing how shatty a cavalier comes, I have much respect to see what they're capable of and didn't mind investing money into mine to follow that path.


I dont discard any car, if the driver is good the car can go fast in the mountains. I am sorry that it happened and am happy that you are not hurt but that is what happens sometimes when you go up there. Good luck getting everything back together.

[COGCaviZ24]

Jamal is at COGCaviZ24's shop trying to get his radiator fixed up... sorry i guess i didn't catch your name COGcavi... well it was nice meeting ya'll and i hope you get your car back in one piece Jamal!

most people my car and not my name.

[green91]

passing on double yellow FTL. cant argue your way out of a hole

[BTLFED]

That's why I find it HIGHLY hilarious that people with honda's, 240sx's, etc talk as much shiz as they do. True some may have that racing heritage behind their name but Nissan nor did Honda build their lower market cars to be anything of what they are today!

Bahahahaha! You are completely ignorant to what racing heritage and factory teams did. Two examples of this that people that are on IA own:


http://www.sjmautotechnik.com/travel_events/Europe_2003_Photos/Speyer/BMW_2002.jpg
1439/2000 BMW 2002
http://bradystribling.com/2002meet/images/DSC_0043.jpg


The famous #46 BRE 510:
http://www.hinosamurai.org/Contents/motorsports/race_program_usa/19711031/19711031_BRE510.jpg
And my 510:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/BTLFED/v55.jpg

Both "econo boxes," yet both had factory backing. When has GM factory backed a J body for anything that has to do with professional road racing besides John Lingenfelter? And that wasn't actually factory backing. I won't even get into the racing heritage Honda/Mugen has with the CRX. And a JDM 240SX/Silvia was made with a 2.0l turbo engine, but not marketed as a performance vehicle? You must be kidding. And how about the SE-R Cup cars? A Sentra "econo box" 1 make series....backed by Nissan. Need I go on? I can pull out Nissan ads that talk about Pete Brock winning 2 championships for Nissan. You don't want to play this game with me.

The bottom line is that a "veteran time attack, Mountain run man" such as yourself wouldn't have made such a novice mistake.....even driving a J body.

[green91]

history lesson ftw!! since you directly said honda and 240 im assuming your taking that shot at me since ive got a civic and a 240sx.. but how could you say they did not intend for them to become what they are? the EF9 SiR (civic) was one of the first hondas with VTEC, with a first gen b16. the 240 was built to be a decently powered RWD sports car, coming with a 2.0 in japan with stock forged internals along with a near perfect weight distribution, independant suspension, and 4 wheel disc.. you think they never intended for it to be more than a "econobox" put-around car??

[Bballjamal]

David88vert, I was just waiting on someone with some sense to post something like that. That's the truth with anything motorsports! I've yet to know anyone on an autoX course or actual track who hasn't gotten alittle squirrely or has taken it into the tirewall while pushing it hard. It's a common story to the point where it's barely mentioned. That's not saying everyone can't hold traction while pushing their car but I've yet to meet them. Truthfully, this was the first time out there with the new suspension set-up. I've been used to the body roll giving me some warning on that particular section where we were but this time it was stiff and threw me right out of the apex.


What was ironic about that section of the circle we were on (before I had the accident) I warned everyone about how the turns on that particular highway are long and flat, also, they even angle to the outside in some areas (which this turn was). So when I got to it I was caught off gaurd by how much it threw me out and by the time I semi found a way to correct it, my right rear was caught hold by the embankment and it pulled the whole car into it.

As said by the couple people i've done Mtn runs with in the past....try to feel out your car soon because it's very unforgiving out here. Most of the turns we were doing earlier (hwy 180 to point out one) had banked corners so you have to pretty much be a true idiot to lose control on them. These turns were just forgotten from the last time I was up and i put too much confidence in the new suspension from the earlier roads to really be on my toes for these.

And green91........I could care less about arguing over something I already explained. If someone is childish enough to still feel it neccesary to flex their E-balls about that then they're immature enough to be ignored :goodjob:

[green91]

Being hypocritical gets no respect from me, why post up being condescending about "ricers" endangering ppl and then have pictures of you passing on double yellow zones? I consider that to be more immature than pointing something out on an internet forum.

[green91]

Im done with this, sorry your car got hurt today.

[Bballjamal]

Bahahahaha! You are completely ignorant to what racing heritage and factory teams did. Two examples of this that people that are on IA own:


http://www.sjmautotechnik.com/travel_events/Europe_2003_Photos/Speyer/BMW_2002.jpg
1439/2000 BMW 2002
http://bradystribling.com/2002meet/images/DSC_0043.jpg


The famous #46 BRE 510:
http://www.hinosamurai.org/Contents/motorsports/race_program_usa/19711031/19711031_BRE510.jpg
And my 510:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/BTLFED/v55.jpg

Both "econo boxes," yet both had factory backing. When has GM factory backed a J body for anything that has to do with professional road racing besides John Lingenfelter? And that wasn't actually factory backing. I won't even get into the racing heritage Honda/Mugen has with the CRX. And a JDM 240SX/Silvia was made with a 2.0l turbo engine, but not marketed as a performance vehicle? You must be kidding. And how about the SE-R Cup cars? A Sentra "econo box" 1 make series....backed by Nissan. Need I go on? I can pull out Nissan ads that talk about Pete Brock winning 2 championships for Nissan. You don't want to play this game with me.

The bottom line is that a "veteran time attack, Mountain run man" such as yourself wouldn't have made such a novice mistake.....even driving a J body.


Haha you're a tard........

You FAIL to see what I had posted.....

Lets go back!


True some may have that racing heritage behind their name but Nissan nor did Honda build their lower market cars to be anything of what they are "USED FOR" today!

Maybe I should have put "used for" in the place you see it, for you to get what I was talking about....

Ok ok ok! I'm sure Nissan TOTALLY had drifting planned out when they marketed their nissan S13, S14, S15, Skyline, etc etc etc....

I'm sure they planned on full engine management systems to be made, 50mm+ turbo's to be used, super wide tires and crazy suspension set-ups to be installed. I'm sure you get the point....

In essence NO car company from the 1980's that's still around today had any idea of what was to come of their lower line of cars made at the time in the hands of our Gen......

History lesson! LMFAO.....Just because I drive a cavalier doesn't mean I don't do car research and enjoy vintage motorsports......

Dumbass assumptions FTL.......

[BTLFED]

Being hypocritical gets no respect from me, why post up being condescending about "ricers" endangering ppl and then have pictures of you passing on double yellow zones? I consider that to be more immature than pointing something out on an internet forum.

Exactly. Oh well. It is what it is. I have already proved my point.

[Bballjamal]

Exactly. Oh well. It is what it is. I have already proved my point.

You two think what you must! I have no control of whatever you think! When I talk about someone as being a "ricer", I mean their attitude about things. You can push your little crossing the double line as a ricer move but I didn't drive from newnan to N. GA to be held up by a 20mph van in a 45mph zone either. Nor did I travel that far for me to end up with a busted car. Shit happens, if you've made your point, move on to the next thread to talk more :blah: or call it a night! :2cents:

[LiL PaKi]

Only You Jamal Only You
Who the F**k would see the upside 2 this but You
Your Car is all F**ked up and Your like it was a Good Day.
F**k that I would by Pissed off like Hell if that was My $hit
But like I said Man Only You Dog.


we were on our way to Wendys then the lil incident occured...

I was like "hey Jamal what now?"
he goes "lets go to Wendys for 99cent burgers!" haha...

[Brady]

sheesh.

[Bballjamal]

Can't beat the 99:2cents: burgers......

You can tell I was a little out of it because I got a #2 instead lmao!

[LiL PaKi]

Can't beat the 99:2cents: burgers......

You can tell I was a little out of it because I got a #2 instead lmao!


haha good one :crazy:

[COGCaviZ24]

yes good indeed

[Dominic49]

So what's your explanation for this?
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i239/cogcaviz24/IMG_0187.jpg

well as every other IA member I think he was trying to be JDM tyte yo....

[LiL PaKi]

well as every other IA member I think he was trying to be JDM tyte yo....

LOL! hold on i might have one of yours... you can barely tell...

[Hulud]

Go up by yourself. The way to learn your limits and your car isnt necessarily following others, i gained alot of experience by driving in the mtns after school and durin free time by myself
nah man i see what your saying but best thing to do is go with one other person, in case you fuck up so you wont be stranded up there till someone can come get you

[Dominic49]

Bahahahaha! You are completely ignorant to what racing heritage and factory teams did. Two examples of this that people that are on IA own:


http://www.sjmautotechnik.com/travel_events/Europe_2003_Photos/Speyer/BMW_2002.jpg
1439/2000 BMW 2002
http://bradystribling.com/2002meet/images/DSC_0043.jpg


The famous #46 BRE 510:
http://www.hinosamurai.org/Contents/motorsports/race_program_usa/19711031/19711031_BRE510.jpg
And my 510:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/BTLFED/v55.jpg

Both "econo boxes," yet both had factory backing. When has GM factory backed a J body for anything that has to do with professional road racing besides John Lingenfelter? And that wasn't actually factory backing. I won't even get into the racing heritage Honda/Mugen has with the CRX. And a JDM 240SX/Silvia was made with a 2.0l turbo engine, but not marketed as a performance vehicle? You must be kidding. And how about the SE-R Cup cars? A Sentra "econo box" 1 make series....backed by Nissan. Need I go on? I can pull out Nissan ads that talk about Pete Brock winning 2 championships for Nissan. You don't want to play this game with me.

The bottom line is that a "veteran time attack, Mountain run man" such as yourself wouldn't have made such a novice mistake.....even driving a J body.


ha ha your wrong its Datsun at the time.....


*hides*

[JDMJAYDC2]

oohhh shit are you bballjamal damn you are bwahhahahahaa

[COGCaviZ24]

nah man i see what your saying but best thing to do is go with one other person, in case you fuck up so you wont be stranded up there till someone can come get you

yup, jamal would have been S.O.L. if he up there be himself and that happened

[COGCaviZ24]

^ ^ ^ ::scratches head::

[Leadfoot_mf]

here is the story.... dipped the right rear tire off and since the grass cambers away and was covered in dew it sucked him down and he was able to straighten out rather than do over that jump sideways and roll his ass into the trees..... BTW how many times have colin macrae, michael schumacher, and nicky lauda crashed.........
i dont know on the street i am pretty sure they haven't on a race track it is a different story stfu.

[LiL PaKi]

^ ^ ^ ::scratches head::

:thinking: haha yea he'd seriously be out of luck.. and would hoped he had cell phone reception... cuz i surely didn't

[Leadfoot_mf]

Food for thought.
I have been running up in the mtns for many, many years. It is a very rare occurance for me to make a mistake on the track or on the street; however, if you have not been off the road in the mtns at least a couple of times, it is highly unlikely that you will become very fast. In learning your personal and your vehicle limits, it is inevitable that you will make errors in judgement.
Learn from your mistakes and figure out how to avoid them next time. Do not let this be a lesson that you did not learn something from.
now u have pissed me off the mtns and public roads are not the place to be driving off and making mistakes. that is want hpde's are for making a mistake in the mountains or any public road can kill people. take it to the track its fine to drive fast in the mtns but know your limits and stay away from them or do everyone else a favor and kill yourself.

[BIMMM3R]

now u have pissed me off the mtns and public roads are not the place to be driving off and making mistakes. that is want hpde's are for making a mistake in the mountains or any public road can kill people. take it to the track its fine to drive fast in the mtns but know your limits and stay away from them or do everyone else a favor and kill yourself.

No where is the place to make driving mistakes or errors. The fact of the matter is... Shit happens... Making mistakes anywhere with driving can hurt people. Although wishing death upon someone because they push their limits is screwed up. Everyone has had times where they have pushed themselves. They went to the mountains on an un-crowded day and weren't even messing around when the accident occured. It is amazing that he straightened it out under the conditions and managed to save himself from hitting it sideways and rolling around. I just dont think getting on a thread and wishing death uopn someone is right. He made a mistake. It happens.

[LiL PaKi]

No where is the place to make driving mistakes or errors. The fact of the matter is... Shit happens... Making mistakes anywhere with driving can hurt people. Although wishing death upon someone because they push their limits is screwed up. Everyone has had times where they have pushed themselves. They went to the mountains on an un-crowded day and weren't even messing around when the accident occured. It is amazing that he straightened it out under the conditions and managed to save himself from hitting it sideways and rolling around. I just dont think getting on a thread and wishing death uopn someone is right. He made a mistake. It happens.

well said :goodjob:

[wantboost]

nah man i see what your saying but best thing to do is go with one other person, in case you fuck up so you wont be stranded up there till someone can come get you
:goodjob: :goodjob: what i stated earlier in this thread.

[COGCaviZ24]

yes it could have be much much worse. their are some realy big dropoffs up there

[Dominic49]

funny shit was, when lil paki said "OH SHIT!!!" I look up to see a cavy flying through the air and all i hair in my head is the dixie song from dukes of hazard....

[Leadfoot_mf]

what i am saying is take it to a race take to push the limits. do not push hard enough to fuck up on the street. he made it sound like it is okay to crash in the mountains. it is not . drive within your limits if shit gets scarry slow down. the comment to kill themselves is if they have a disregard or other peoples lives in the mountains. i get really pissed off when i see people passing on blind corners, (bikes and cars) up there u really have to push so hard that u cant wait till it is safe? what race are u running? wtf? i really dont understand. so it may have been safe to make the pass. cant tell. i have been on a run with jamal he seemed okay then. dont know what happened now but i hope he learned a lesson as well as every one here.

[BIMMM3R]

what i am saying is take it to a race take to push the limits. do not push hard enough to fuck up on the street. he made it sound like it is okay to crash in the mountains. it is not . drive within your limits if shit gets scarry slow down. the comment to kill themselves is if they have a disregard or other peoples lives in the mountains. i get really pissed off when i see people passing on blind corners, (bikes and cars) up there u really have to push so hard that u cant wait till it is safe? what race are u running? wtf? i really dont understand. so it may have been safe to make the pass. cant tell. i have been on a run with jamal he seemed okay then. dont know what happened now but i hope he learned a lesson as well as every one here.

Well agree with you there because I don't think it is right to go past your limits. There is never a time when going past your limits is ok in driving. I also completely agree with you on the track aspect. It is much better to take your car to the track and get your speeding out of you there. However, the fact of the matter is, the mountains are an amazing place to drive and it is fun up there. I think that you are right but you made assumptions that he was doing stupid shit that wasn't called for. Also, I do see where you think that he makes it seem like its ok. It isn't ok. Messing your car up and brushing it off is horrible, but I don't think that is what he is doing. I simply think that he realizes what has happened and knows there is nothing he can do about it now but try to get his car fixed and learn from the experience. He just brushed it off online but away from the computer knows what happened and won't make the same mistake again.

[Leadfoot_mf]

i know jamal i dont think he was doing stupid shit. some times shits happens agreed. jamal sorry to hear about the car get it fixed and be careful what time did it happen? i saw the 3 lotuses on 400 just north of comming around 1 pm later tim

[Dominic49]

11:45 exactly....

[LiL PaKi]

i know jamal i dont think he was doing stupid shit. some times shits happens agreed. jamal sorry to hear about the car get it fixed and be careful what time did it happen? i saw the 3 lotuses on 400 just north of comming around 1 pm later tim

The blue Lotus was sick! then behind it a white one then followed by a yellow one... i'm in love with the blue one :(

[COGCaviZ24]

yup we saw those lotuses heading the opposite direction on 180

[§treet_§peed]

sounds like you guys had a bit of fun wish i could of went lol

[YokotaS13]

:gay: The "im better than you" remarks are always the coolest way to win the argument........

No one ever said they were the ubber greatness at a Mtn Run, I was just notifying the guy who posted in the other thread there's no one coming with a ricer mentality that would put others in danger. You can quote this and make your comments and whatever, but shit happens........plain and simple, get off your high horse of "I drive this car and I'm better" shit because no one cares.......

and I drive a cavalier........wOOt......

jokes about that were old 5yrs ago......welcome back to highschool
im just notifying you of the facts
Your car is ghey, literally, its american rice
You cant drive
you endangered people with your shitty driving
and apparently your cars fucked up now.
Why dont you make it pretty again and mold everything back in like the played out sides you hvae
And your a hypocrite
There are double solids for a reason

When i do mountain runs, its in teh middle of the night, on roads that are made for it, when there are other cars doing the same thing, we arent passing innocent people that arent aware of whats going on

And since then, i got smart. GO TO THE TRACK ASSHAT
oh wait, you cant, you would get laughed off

And have your friend paint his fucking car, Mines been 3 colors since i told him to last time

[COGCaviZ24]

:gay: i love how a person can think that their opinion equals the opinion of the masses. and personaly if i was in japan, i woulnd'nt be bothering with a forum that's atlanta related. i may not ever paint my car, out of spite ;) hell, it's easier to clean that way. if i get a scratch or a dent, i fix it and spray it. if it gets dirty,i hose it off and it's done. again, untill i am done with the body work/modifications, it'd be pointless for me to paint it. i don't have alot of time/money to work on my car(especialy now with a kid). and i'm not going to just park it untill it's done.


do us all a favor and keep overly opinionated ass in japan

[YokotaS13]

id rather not. Im sure that ill be back in valdosta eventually, might as well stay here just to bug you right?

but dude on teh real
youve been saying that for 5 months now. It takes 2 hours to fully spraypaint a car, ive done it 4 times now

[COGCaviZ24]

excatly, i wanna do it once, not 4

[Bballjamal]

I understand Tim! And BIMMM3R hit it on the head! I definately didn't brush it off, I just realized sitting around and being pissed over the situation might have caused another fuck up on the way out. I've seen first hand how stress can alter someone's driving and I didn't want to ruin anyone elses day at all.

I've learned a lot from yesterday! Mainly, to enjoy the roads up there safely and to take the car to the track to pound on it.

[Leadfoot_mf]

at least no one was hurt thank god. yeah the track is safer for the public but u can still fuck a car up good at the track seen it many a times i always drive with the intent to drive the car home. hope u get it back on the road soon. later tim

[Mike Lowrey]

Learn to drive on a track/autocross first, then go to the mountains.......

[B16a2 Civic]

bondo and elbow grease, fixes it all

[COGCaviZ24]

bondo and elbow grease, fixes it all

LOL i don't think that will fix frame damage and a busted radiator

[Bballjamal]

Learn to drive on a track/autocross first, then go to the mountains.......


That's where I started two years ago.......

[Mike Lowrey]

That's where I started two years ago.......

No offense, but the local autocross scene here in ATL is not the stongest and two years is still very little experience. To have a better understanding of the car's dynamics requires much more experience.

[Bballjamal]

Sucks for atlanta! I was in the west where it is pretty strong, but I do agree that's no where near enough time to qualify as any hardcore experience! I feel I was held back by mostly practicing on only two track courses and I do think the autocross set-ups could've been more challenging! I've ran at Mission Raceway(located in British Columbia) and was broken into track racing at Pacific Raceways in Auburn, WA. I did that for alittle over a a year and 1/2 and have had the rest of my 2yrs down here in GA, where I would say is pretty weak compared to anythng out west! There's events going on year round and you always get to hit semi pro events where you can ride along on practice sessions with the level below semi pro (I forget what they're referred to as)!

We all know though that the roads this country has to offer differ greatly than any racetrack in this country. Most people involved in these racing events feel they get more experience out in real world situations, as becoming a better driver, because of the forever changing natural obstacles you have to overcome. A track is always prepped, cleaned, and maintained while roadways give in many instances. Not saying or encouraging people to practice on busy or even less dense roadways, but I like to build a knowledge of the changes in natural settings first, then eventually be able to take it to a track where things are controlled in a sense, and feel if it were easier. The same concept as your better motocross guys improving their skill by free riding where they can't predict what's coming. Once they feel comfortable in an non-uniform enviornment, going to a motorcross comp seems like cakewalk to them.

[Mike Lowrey]

Yeah, I came from Florida where there were 6-10 National champion autocross drivers at the local events. That along with beginning my autocross experience in a car that is surely not a beginners car, helped alot. I want to do more track events, but that will come once the track car is ready for Spring.

[YokotaS13]

wow the posters of this thread just dont see how retarded they are. Everythign done in this thread is irresponsible and stupid, i cant believe we are still debating that

[spoon91]

wow the posters of this thread just dont see how retarded they are. Everythign done in this thread is irresponsible and stupid, i cant believe we are still debating that
I can't Believe Your STILL going on about it
Let it the F**k go it's F**KING OVER no one gives 2 Squirts of Piss about
What the Hell You have 2 Bitch about
The Man F**ked up He knows that so
Get a Damn Life Grow up and
Find a New place 2 go Bitch.

[spoon91]

I just Love making new Friends.:D

[COGCaviZ24]

ha ha!

[Bballjamal]

I can't Believe Your STILL going on about it
Let it the F**k go it's F**KING OVER no one gives 2 Squirts of Piss about
What the Hell You have 2 Bitch about
The Man F**ked up He knows that so
Get a Damn Life Grow up and
Find a New place 2 go Bitch.


Honestly yes! Everyone else in here besides your friend has done this one thing that we refer to as "matured". I made a mistake, yes! Sry to offend your O so perfect lifestyle of non-f* ups!

I don't see where it's irresponsible......

I saw my fault, didn't deny my wrong doing, thus, not being irresponsible...

Stupid.....

Explain why I was stupid lmao! Then explain why/how you can attest me to being stupid in this fashion without you being there OR even having video proof of what happened. You're the one that's stupid for throwing out words and names for something that was un-controlable (in respects to what was going on). Obviously it was fully controlable if I were in your 240, because they're just the most ultimate handling cars over a cavalier!

Lmao!

Random Fact: Believe it or not, there are currently 3 cavaliers in SCCA and NASA national events running my same suspension set-up constantly placing 1st-4th over the last 3yrs against "better performing" cars! Since someone like you would not care about or would deny these facts, i'll try me hardest to get some proof! But who cares right.....it's still a cavalier!

[spoon91]

:lmfao:
Very nice!!!
Very nice!!!
I Love it
Damn American Civic :D Hey You said it Yourself.

[Bballjamal]

:lmfao:
Very nice!!!
Very nice!!!
I Love it
Damn American Civic :D Hey You said it Yourself.

:dunno: I can't deny it mayne! I respect my car and all, but I still know what it is and what it aint :D

Do you know anyway to contact Daviss, with the lude that has the same rims as me?

[spoon91]

I'll PM You His #

[COGCaviZ24]

on top of what jamal said. yes, we are aware that mtn runs are unlawful and could potintualy harm bystanders. that's why this one was done on sunday during church hours. we can't control all the aspects of it, there is too many variables, but try to elminate as much as possible (btw, mtn run at nite are just dumb). but you don't see anyone telling the streetbikers, cruiser bikes, and cyclists(G.D. douchebags) not to do it. and your going nuts of over a small group of CAVALIERS mtn running, but i'm sure you'd applaud the group lotuses and porche's that were out there haulling ass.

hell i'm a father! i'd hate to have someone hit a car vehicle with him inside( which did happen, one week after his was born) or for me to die up there. but that's how confindent/confortable i am with my car. but there is always a chance things can go wrong.....as did with jamal. the title of this could have said "jamal died during mtn run" but it didn't.

[spoon91]

hell i'm a father! i'd hate to have someone hit a car vehicle with him inside( which did happen, one week after his was born) or for me to die up there. but that's how confindent/confortable i am with my car. but there is always a chance things can go wrong.....as did with jamal. the title of this could have said "jamal died during mtn run" but it didn't.
Very well Said Bro.

[spoon91]

Hate Me if You want
Think of Me as a Dickhead
Call Me a F**ing Jackass but
The Truth of it is I am GOING 2 Support MY FRIEND and all of His Friends
I don't Care if You like Me as a Person or not
Because when the Day is over I can Still call Jamal a Good Friend!!!
Can You do the Same?

[Dominic49]

on top of what jamal said. yes, we are aware that mtn runs are unlawful and could potintualy harm bystanders. that's why this one was done on sunday during church hours. we can't control all the aspects of it, there is too many variables, but try to elminate as much as possible (btw, mtn run at nite are just dumb). but you don't see anyone telling the streetbikers, cruiser bikes, and cyclists(G.D. douchebags) not to do it. and your going nuts of over a small group of CAVALIERS mtn running, but i'm sure you'd applaud the group lotuses and porche's that were out there haulling ass.

hell i'm a father! i'd hate to have someone hit a car vehicle with him inside( which did happen, one week after his was born) or for me to die up there. but that's how confindent/confortable i am with my car. but there is always a chance things can go wrong.....as did with jamal. the title of this could have said "jamal died during mtn run" but it didn't.


hey.....

i dont drive a cavy!!!

[~The_Duke~]

So what did I miss on this mountain run...bball try to go off-road rally racing on a mountain...damn...I always miss the good shit...is everyone alright?

[Bballjamal]

Yeah, I came from Florida where there were 6-10 National champion autocross drivers at the local events. That along with beginning my autocross experience in a car that is surely not a beginners car, helped alot. I want to do more track events, but that will come once the track car is ready for Spring.


Ahh so you started rough! I was told if I'm sticking with the particular car I had to start with it stock and progressively get better at controlling what I have! As I mod it, do it in bulk so I notice the difference the whole makes instead of changing things bit by bit.

[~The_Duke~]

What happened I dont feel like reading the 7 pages...

[wantboost]

^^ typical bs.

[Nemesis]

Damn the hate is strong in this thread. Most of you all have probably never even met Jamal.

[~The_Duke~]

all I know is I saw what I thought to be a beat up cavilier and was wondering what happened to it...

[Mike Lowrey]

Ahh so you started rough! I was told if I'm sticking with the particular car I had to start with it stock and progressively get better at controlling what I have! As I mod it, do it in bulk so I notice the difference the whole makes instead of changing things bit by bit.

My second ever autocross was an SCCA ProSolo II event driving a Toyota MR2 Turbo in the rain... :)

[Bballjamal]

all I know is I saw what I thought to be a beat up cavilier and was wondering what happened to it...

Notes:

-Going around a semi off balance curve at around 55-60
-Threw the car out a tad in the rear
-rear right tire caught the grass and pulled the car into a ditch
-after correcting the car from being sideways I hit a 3ft storm drain
-flew about 5ft into the air
-landed about 20+ feet away from where I was launched

Damage:

-radiator was bent in about 10in. on driver side
-opened a 1/2in. hole on top of radiator and leaked coolant
-rear bumper torn completely off
-rear axle has a slight dent that put the camber to about +2 in the right rear
-driver side wheel was bent back and camber is off about -4
-Engine overheated and cracked head (what we think so far)

Me and JDMJayDC2 took off the valve cover and saw that one of the valves was bent connecting to the rocker arm. It was on the 2nd rocker arm of the #1 cylinder. I'll be taking the head off tomorrow and will be seeing what exactly happened on the top side of the block and if it was just a valve that floated, cracked head, etc.

Also, thanks Jorje! Some people just feel it neccesary to bitch when the uncommon happens :screwy:

[JDMJAYDC2]

yeah shit sucks bro hopefully when you pull that head off tomorrow we will have a better look and see what really is going on with it ill try and stop by tomorrow after work to give you another hand

[Leadfoot_mf]

who is this jamal guy?

[IndianStig]

wow.....so someone fucks his car up and ya'll just flame him. i'd like to see what happens if you guys fuck up and damage your vehicle's

[~The_Duke~]

Notes:

-Going around a semi off balance curve at around 55-60
-Threw the car out a tad in the rear
-rear right tire caught the grass and pulled the car into a ditch
-after correcting the car from being sideways I hit a 3ft storm drain
-flew about 5ft into the air
-landed about 20+ feet away from where I was launched

Damage:

-radiator was bent in about 10in. on driver side
-opened a 1/2in. hole on top of radiator and leaked coolant
-rear bumper torn completely off
-rear axle has a slight dent that put the camber to about +2 in the right rear
-driver side wheel was bent back and camber is off about -4
-Engine overheated and cracked head (what we think so far)

Me and JDMJayDC2 took off the valve cover and saw that one of the valves was bent connecting to the rocker arm. It was on the 2nd rocker arm of the #1 cylinder. I'll be taking the head off tomorrow and will be seeing what exactly happened on the top side of the block and if it was just a valve that floated, cracked head, etc.

Also, thanks Jorje! Some people just feel it neccesary to bitch when the uncommon happens :screwy:

Sorry to hear about that man...glad you and the people that you were driving with are alright...least you didnt go over a cliff :D

[HiPSI]

its in teh middle of the night, on roads that are made for it, when there are other cars doing the same thing


what roads are "made for it"? and how does doing it in the middle of the night make it any safer?



EVERYONE seems to be missing the point... don't drive like an asshat on public roads. go to the mountains, drive the roads, enjoy them; but don't push it to the limit in some attempt to be a badass or inflate your ego. no matter what day of the week or time of day it's just not safe to do so, period. there's a large difference between a spirited run and being stupid. if you don't know the difference then stay away until you do.

[HiPSI]

Hate Me if You want
Think of Me as a Dickhead
Call Me a F**ing Jackass but
The Truth of it is I am GOING 2 Support MY FRIEND and all of His Friends
I don't Care if You like Me as a Person or not
Because when the Day is over I can Still call Jamal a Good Friend!!!
Can You do the Same?


why do you write everything like a fucking poem? that's all i want to know.

[~The_Duke~]

what roads are "made for it"? and how does doing it in the middle of the night make it any safer?



EVERYONE seems to be missing the point... don't drive like an asshat on public roads. go to the mountains, drive the roads, enjoy them; but don't push it to the limit in some attempt to be a badass or inflate your ego. no matter what day of the week or time of day it's just not safe to do so, period. there's a large difference between a spirited run and being stupid. if you don't know the difference then stay away until you do.

While driving on mountain roads, no matter how careful you are driving or how uncareful you are being mistakes happen...I knew a guy in HS that died up in the mountains driving slowly back from his grandparent's house in the mountains because his tire blew out and he went over a cliff...

If you make a mistake it is how you recover from the mistake that counts not what you did to prevent it cas it already happened... sounds like to me that he got lucky\driving skill he was able to prevent any other harm...I have never meet him before, but if I hadnt already had plans I prolly would have been in the pack with him...

[Dominic49]

i told you bring your daughter fooooooo it was a fun run... can't wait till I cna do it again....

[Bballjamal]

why do you write everything like a fucking poem? that's all i want to know.

He was born a rapper so everything gets put into lyrics :dunno:

It never rhymes, but it usually makes sense, which is 1/2 the battle won! :ninja:

[JDMJAYDC2]

oh shit qd is reading this post!!!!

[Bballjamal]

oh shit qd is reading this post!!!!

Jermaine, you are terrible........ :D

[green91]

Well the lesson learned is if you run off a mtn road that were designed for fast driving and crack your radiator, you will likely float a valve, especially in a cavalier that for some reason wasnt designed to fly "5 feet" in the air.

But the good news is now it gives him a reason to actually build his car using the parts in his sig roll car that have been there for 3 years and he can finally break into the 13s.

[wantboost]

I really dont know why lil paki posted this lol. She must hate you man lol j/p.

[Dominic49]

I really dont know why lil paki posted this lol. She must hate you man lol j/p.

I told her to!!

[HiPSI]

While driving on mountain roads, no matter how careful you are driving or how uncareful you are being mistakes happen...


true... to a point. but when you're in over your head mistakes happen much more quickly and freqently. passing a semi on the outside of an off camber turn was a bad decision and it cost him.

i'm not really commenting on the accident at hand anyway, more to the people encouraging using the mountains as a place to find your limits. they are not the place to do it, plain and simple. yes accidents can happen anytime whether you're driving miss daisy or setting a new land speed record, but take a guess at who's more likely to eat it (and in a grand fashion) ;).

[~The_Duke~]

i told you bring your daughter fooooooo it was a fun run... can't wait till I cna do it again....

Next week thrusday before my class at 11? :D

[COGCaviZ24]

true... to a point. but when you're in over your head mistakes happen much more quickly and freqently. passing a semi on the outside of an off camber turn was a bad decision and it cost him.

i'm not really commenting on the accident at hand anyway, more to the people encouraging using the mountains as a place to find your limits. they are not the place to do it, plain and simple. yes accidents can happen anytime whether you're driving miss daisy or setting a new land speed record, but take a guess at who's more likely to eat it (and in a grand fashion) ;).


you might wanna read again. no one said he was passing a semi on the outside. besides, that would put the semi in the wrong lane :eek: LOL

[Bballjamal]

Green91 fails to be funny again..........

HiPsi got the posts mixed up...........

Bballjamal goes to bed...............

[fawk_you]

sux sorry to see that

[YokotaS13]

what roads are "made for it"? and how does doing it in the middle of the night make it any safer?



EVERYONE seems to be missing the point... don't drive like an asshat on public roads. go to the mountains, drive the roads, enjoy them; but don't push it to the limit in some attempt to be a badass or inflate your ego. no matter what day of the week or time of day it's just not safe to do so, period. there's a large difference between a spirited run and being stupid. if you don't know the difference then stay away until you do.
they are roads that are closed off after a certain time to public traffic. thats why

[YokotaS13]

I can't Believe Your STILL going on about it
Let it the F**k go it's F**KING OVER no one gives 2 Squirts of Piss about
What the Hell You have 2 Bitch about
The Man F**ked up He knows that so
Get a Damn Life Grow up and
Find a New place 2 go Bitch.
hardy hardy har
im bored at work

[green91]

if i was trying to be funny id tell everyone to look at the pix on pg 1

[Bballjamal]

yea I know right...

[spoon91]

why do you write everything like a fucking poem? that's all i want to know.
Because it Tickles Me.:D

[spoon91]

He was born a rapper so everything gets put into lyrics :dunno:

It never rhymes, but it usually makes sense, which is 1/2 the battle won! :ninja:
Oh Yes!!!
You have seen threw My Code.:ninja:

[COGCaviZ24]

word

[The Stiffler]

he's a fuckin idiot. bar none. his license shoul be taken away and he shoudl get an ass whuping from daddy.

[COGCaviZ24]

:gay: :eye: :nautjerk: