Mach 1 Kill

[Capt._Ron]

I pulled out of Cool Cat Racing this past Friday with a friend who has an 03 Mach 1 with intake, exhaust, and a power programmer. Im in my 240 only running 9 psi. We roll onto Eisenhower and go from like 10 mph 1st and 2nd we are dead even then i shift into 3rd and once i started spooling it was over. I just had to share because i love killing v8's in a $5500 car with a 2 liter.

[Eimaj]

What's the difference in the performace of a Mach1 compared to a base model?
Any difference?

[unkn0wndj]

I think its around 300 hp if im not mistaking.

[Lankhoss]

"....mine is only $5500"

Ricer

[slowhawk01]

Nice kill. Good to see someone enjoying actually racing:goodjob:

[ZEDEX32]

Nice kill! RedTop RULES!!!!!!!!

[hydroshutter]

They didn't make Mach1's in 02, must've been an '03.


don't underestimate v8's.

[Lankhoss]

I think its around 300 hp if im not mistaking.

I think you are right. It's a 2V OHC 4.6L V8, and the car weighs about 3500lbs. About 100hp less than the Cobra, but it weighs almost 200lbs less. It also has a solid axle and 5 speed, as opposed to the IRS and 6 speed in the Cobra.

Basically, it's a Mustang GT with a beefed up engine, shaker hood, different wheels, and other cosmetic differences.

[hydroshutter]

I think you are right. It's a 2V OHC 4.6L V8, and the car weighs about 3500lbs. About 100hp less than the Cobra, but it weighs almost 200lbs less. It also has a solid axle and 5 speed, as opposed to the IRS and 6 speed in the Cobra.

Basically, it's a Mustang GT with a beefed up engine, shaker hood, different wheels, and other cosmetic differences.

The Mach1 is a 4v DOHC Engine, similar to that of a 99 or 01 Cobra without the shaker hood system.:goodjob:

[Lankhoss]

The Mach1 is a 4v DOHC Engine, similar to that of a 99 or 01 Cobra without the shaker hood system.:goodjob:

I thought the Mach was a 2V and the Cobra was a 4V???

[OHYOUKNOW]

they are both 4v, just the mach's have the shitty bottom end while the cobra's have the beefy one. also why would someone switch out the intake on a mach?????? doesnt make any since at all

[hydroshutter]

I thought the Mach was a 2V and the Cobra was a 4V???

Nope, 4V's just like the big brother Cobras. :yes:

[Lankhoss]

Nope, 4V's just like the big brother Cobras. :yes:

Wah hell, learn sum'in uvry day.

I thought you guys were talking about how the Cobras sounded so much different than the Machs because of the extra 2 valves one night.

[hydroshutter]

Wah hell, learn sum'in uvry day.

I thought you guys were talking about how the Cobras sounded so much different than the Machs because of the extra 2 valves one night.

WELL HAIL GETCHEE DAMN FACTZ STRAIT CHEVY BOY!

I'm not sure about the Machs sounding different than the Cobras, but I do know the GT sounds different, marginally different due to the lack of valved.

You going to Petit Lemans this weekend?

[Lankhoss]

WELL HAIL GETCHEE DAMN FACTZ STRAIT CHEVY BOY!

I'm not sure about the Machs sounding different than the Cobras, but I do know the GT sounds different, marginally different due to the lack of valved.

You going to Petit Lemans this weekend?

Hell yes I am. I can only go Saturday, though....since I'm out of town. I'm trying to contact C6 registry so I can go up there and park with the Vettes. I just posted a link on our site with all of the events listed.

[BUGMAN]

Glad you had fun and yes it is always fun busting someones azz in a cheaper car. I have less than 4k in my kids car and a Mach 1 wouldn't even be worth the gas to fire it up.

Congrats!

The Mach 1 on a dyno is no where even close to 300 hp and they are heavy azz turds.

[Lankhoss]

Glad you had fun and yes it is always fun busting someones azz in a cheaper car. I have less than 4k in my kids car and a Mach 1 wouldn't even be worth the gas to fire it up.

Congrats!

The Mach 1 on a dyno is no where even close to 300 hp and they are heavy azz turds.

300bhp

[FAHHQUE700]

friend of mine dyno'd 319/325 C&L Intake, VRS X pipe, & Magnaflow catback. That's it... it's a factory freak though because most MACH 1s only dyno @ 275hp/300tq with similar mods. He's beaten an STI, EVO, and supercharged GT's before. Also a nitrous GT at Commerce by a nose.

[BUGMAN]

300bhp

I wasn't sure how many people on here know what their rwhp/bhp, etc. was so I kept it simple as possible. :D

[BUGMAN]

friend of mine dyno'd 319/325 C&L Intake, VRS X pipe, & Magnaflow catback. That's it... it's a factory freak though because most MACH 1s only dyno @ 275hp/300tq with similar mods. He's beaten an STI, EVO, and supercharged GT's before. Also a nitrous GT at Commerce by a nose.

What kind of dyno, model number and age of the dyno? I have seen the same exact car dyno up to 70 rwhp different on different kinds of dyno's.

If anyone doesn't believe me then they obviously have very little or no dyno experience.

Even 275/300 is a little high for a bone stock Mach 1, of course depending on the dyno. ;)

[Capt._Ron]

the mach 1 has a modified box with a k&n cone filter in it. The Mach 1 motor is yes basically a cheaper non supercharged cobra motor I believe. Its not that fast but they sound amazing with exhaust.

[FAHHQUE700]

DynoJet 248C. The same dyno... the same location. I have plenty of dyno experience (my shit never runs the way I want it to, plus I keep adding more mods on more mods)

[BUGMAN]

Ah I think you misunderstood what I meant. I meant that your dyno may read one thing but not likely that another one will read even remotely close. Take that 300 rwhp car to a Mustang Dyno that loads the car differently and it will drop to probably the 260 range. Heck for that matter take it to another Dyno-Jet like at Team Ford or any other DJ and it will more than likely be 10 or more HP difference than yours. Now that I have had ton's of experience in and none are ever within 12-15 rwhp.

I was not knocking your dyno or your experience just comparing other locations/dyno readings.

[FAHHQUE700]

I understand... but either way... 0 soothing... SAE/STD Corrected or whatever... the car made 319/325 which is un-heard of. Well I have only heard of one other Mach making this much, but timing @ 26*

[BUGMAN]

I understand... but either way... 0 soothing... SAE/STD Corrected or whatever... the car made 319/325 which is un-heard of. Well I have only heard of one other Mach making this much, but timing @ 26*

That's cool and I don't doubt it a bit. I have seen a lot of 03 and 04 Cobra's, Mach 1's, Z06's and numerous others stock for stock on the dyno and even being the same exact car from the factory not one them were even close to a match. People have always said that you can't build 2 cars alike. :eek:

[40th GT]

I pulled out of Cool Cat Racing this past Friday with a friend who has an 03 Mach 1 with intake, exhaust, and a power programmer. Im in my 240 only running 9 psi. We roll onto Eisenhower and go from like 10 mph 1st and 2nd we are dead even then i shift into 3rd and once i started spooling it was over. I just had to share because i love killing v8's in a $5500 car with a 2 liter.
Good kill. What kind of dyno numbers is yours putting out?

[Capt._Ron]

I have yet to dyno the car but at 9psi I would estimate that im in the 240-250 rwhp range. Im not really interested in attempting a 400 hp 240. If I can build a 300 hp car with a fat powerband I will be real happy and will probably be able to dominate most cars on the road.

[antiv6]

ok to set the record strait. An 03 5 speed mach 1 is factory rated at 305hp and 320tq to the motor. It is a dohc 4v v8. It is similar to a 99-01 cobra motor. It has a forged crankshaft. The hp and tq numbers were slightly underated. Ive heard of many dynoing at around 270 hp stock. A few bolt ons put them at 300 rwhp.stock they have 355 gears. weight is 3465 lbs
http://www.mach1registry.com/Specs/Specs.htm

[JuicedCpe]

Bugman is right about the dynos and the different ones- for example, my old stang made 447 rwhp on a Mustang Dyno but on the dynojet that ACD had it made 545 rwhp. There was absolutely no changes made

[Capt._Ron]

"weight is 3465 lbs" that is the key. Thats the big advantage to shitty s13's. Mine weighs in at 2600 lbs and will run 13.8 on 9psi all day.

[antiv6]

"weight is 3465 lbs" that is the key. Thats the big advantage to shitty s13's. Mine weighs in at 2600 lbs and will run 13.8 on 9psi all day.
stock 5 speed mach 1;s can run low-mid 13's some even very high 12's with professional drivers

[FAHHQUE700]

stock 5 speed mach 1;s can run low-mid 13's some even very high 12's with professional drivers

11.80 @ 112 headers, CAI, k-member, 4.30 gears, & a tune Montgomery, AL

11.44 @ 126 mods + 50 shot and fried the stock clutch.

[Capt._Ron]

I would like to see the timeslip of a stock Mach 1 in the 12's sorry but im saying bs

[FAHHQUE700]

beleive what you want to the driver was Tim Barth @ Montgomery Motorsports Park. Azure blue Mach 1 the video is on the net somewhere. I'll search for it.

[jtownaccord]

Do u really expect us to believe that? That is bullshit.:D
11.80 @ 112 headers, CAI, k-member, 4.30 gears, & a tune Montgomery, AL

11.44 @ 126 mods + 50 shot and fried the stock clutch.

[FAHHQUE700]

Do u really expect us to believe that? That is bullshit.:D

Oh you shut the hell up there! You know it's true.

And what is this "us" the gay crowd?


oh excuse the post is was an 11.88 on the motor not 11.80

[Capt._Ron]

yea post the video but the Mach 1's i have seen run at Silver Dollar arent even close to being in the 12's

[jtownaccord]

Oh you shut the hell up there! You know it's true.

And what is this "us" the gay crowd?


oh excuse the post is was an 11.88 on the motor not 11.80"Us" is all of us who dont have a mustang. I know its true, but it is hard to believe unless u see the video and know that is all that is done to it. 11.80, thats almost as fast as my car.

[FAHHQUE700]

"Us" is all of us who dont have a mustang. I know its true, but it is hard to believe unless u see the video and know that is all that is done to it. 11.80, thats almost as fast as my car.

Well, he's a pro driver/pro builder/pro tuner... he knows his shiot. he's won King of street the REAL king of street twice.

[Capt._Ron]

I talked another Mach 1 owner and it could be done on really sticky tires with a pro driver but given the same circumstances my 240 would also run in the 12's considering that when i drive it i turn trap speeds of 105 easily and i suck

[1civic]

I talked another Mach 1 owner and it could be done on really sticky tires with a pro driver but given the same circumstances my 240 would also run in the 12's considering that when i drive it i turn trap speeds of 105 easily and i suck


I'm wondering.... Do you have time slips of your 13.8... Also with your 250 whp (Guess) I don't think you will trap at 105... Just my :2cents: ..

[Capt._Ron]

hold on ill post it up

[Capt._Ron]

you dont believe that an sr20 s13 with bolt ons will go 13.8 in the quater mile?

[Capt._Ron]

no scanner but here is the data from the timeslip i do have its 104mph timeslip by the way and yes i have run 105 before with a worse 1/4 mile time.
R/T .193
60' 2.253
330 6.051
1/8 9.066
MPH 81.86
1000 11.680
1/4 13.841
MPH 104.11
This time is from a fri night at silver dollar and the machine is a CompuLink StarTRAK model year 2005

[lightspeed]

no scanner but here is the data from the timeslip i do have its 104mph timeslip by the way and yes i have run 105 before with a worse 1/4 mile time.
R/T .193
60' 2.253
330 6.051
1/8 9.066
MPH 81.86
1000 11.680
1/4 13.841
MPH 104.11
This time is from a fri night at silver dollar and the machine is a CompuLink StarTRAK model year 2005
not that this is relevant to this thread, but I just wanted to say that I laugh everytime I see your screenname. I dont know why though, it just cracks me up.

[FAHHQUE700]

I've been trying to find the video... still looking. all I came up with is a BONE STOCK '03 Mach 1 at Commerce running a 13.55 @ 109 the only mod to the car is deep dish Mach 1 wheels with shitty sumitumo HTZs on the back, and OE Goodyears up front. Full interior and 1 12" sub and small amp. 175lb driver. I pm'd the guy on ModularDepot his SN is 03shaker

[FAHHQUE700]

here is before the suspension and long tube headers

http://www.modularpowerhouse.com/for.../Oct2ndMMP.wmv

the other video was taken down he is e-mailing it to me in the morning

12.81 @ 111 w/o the skinnys up front

[jtownaccord]

Thats bullshit.
here is before the suspension and long tube headers

http://www.modularpowerhouse.com/for.../Oct2ndMMP.wmv

the other video was taken down he is e-mailing it to me in the morning

12.81 @ 111 w/o the skinnys up front

[hydroshutter]

Thats bullshit.

:gay:

[FAHHQUE700]

Thats bullshit.

dude, you are Gary-:gay:
"Gary-Gay"
"Gary Young Gay"

[jtownaccord]

dude, you are Gary-:gay:
"Gary-Gay"
"Gary Young Gay"LOL Thats not even right. I dont think anybody can get that gay. Mustangs are slow

[hydroshutter]

Hey,
It's narrow minded import owners like you that gives all import owners a bad name. Just in case you didn't comprehend that, it's a lot like saying, "All sport bike owners cut lanes in traffic and do triple digit speed everywhere."

EDIT: Let's race from 0-30:lmfao:

[jtownaccord]

Hey,
It's narrow minded import owners like you that gives all import owners a bad name. Just in case you didn't comprehend that, it's a lot like saying, "All sport bike owners cut lanes in traffic and do triple digit speed everywhere."

EDIT: Let's race from 0-30:lmfao:Orly, I am glad u pointed out that I was being narrow minded. Even though I stated earlier that I had saw the video and knew that the mach actually ran those times. Some people on here r friends and just like talkin shit to eachother. But thanks for pointing that out.

[Nyteryder]

I'm wondering.... Do you have time slips of your 13.8... Also with your 250 whp (Guess) I don't think you will trap at 105... Just my :2cents: ..

Acually when I was running my stock set up with a side mount IC, open diff, street tires, and 14psi I made 230whp 250wtq, and was running 13.7-8 @106

[hydroshutter]

But thanks for pointing that out.

I'm here for the children.

[jtownaccord]

LOL. I have seen u playing around a couple times and your car sounds good and is pretty quick. I was just talkin shit to fahhque700.

[1civic]

Acually when I was running my stock set up with a side mount IC, open diff, street tires, and 14psi I made 230whp 250wtq, and was running 13.7-8 @106


Well, I guess you guys running smaller tires helped your trap speed... Just was a little funny with the power numbers... My car did run a 12.9 @ 108 last year but with more power and NO spray it went slower this year and the only thing that adds up is the 26x8.5 tires...or Slicks I should say.. ;) .. The last run looked like this.. NO SPRAY !! Car was setup for spray and power was down around 300 whp... :goodjob:

R/T .... .256
60' .... 2.084
330' .... 5.680
1/8 .... 8.668
MPH .... 82.65
1000' .... 11.225
1/4 .... 13.384
MPH .... 105.28

[Ericp]

nice kill man. I beat a Mach 1 mustang twice at Atlanta Motor Speedway, but the guy was real cool. He couldn't believe how "fast" my "neon" was lol. I wanna ride in you car now that you've ridin in mine. Maybe we'll get a chance to run one day :goodjob:

[bigdare23]

Racing on Eisenhower, I'm surprised you didnt get own3d by the cops!

[WINDSOR]

I've been trying to find the video... still looking. all I came up with is a BONE STOCK '03 Mach 1 at Commerce running a 13.55 @ 109 the only mod to the car is deep dish Mach 1 wheels with shitty sumitumo HTZs on the back, and OE Goodyears up front. Full interior and 1 12" sub and small amp. 175lb driver. I pm'd the guy on ModularDepot his SN is 03shaker

I don't see a BONE STOCK mach 1 running 109 mph especially at Commerce. I think they can possibly run low 13s but not nearly at that trap speed. Stock 03 cobras barely do 112-113 and have a lot more hp and some more weight of course. I believe a few years back when the mach 1 first came out they ran 12.9@104-105 out of a bone stock mach 1 at FFW commerce but with nitto drag radials as the only mod (if you count tire as a mod).

[FAHHQUE700]

I don't see a BONE STOCK mach 1 running 109 mph especially at Commerce. I think they can possibly run low 13s but not nearly at that trap speed. Stock 03 cobras barely do 112-113 and have a lot more hp and some more weight of course. I believe a few years back when the mach 1 first came out they ran 12.9@104-105 out of a bone stock mach 1 at FFW commerce but with nitto drag radials as the only mod (if you count tire as a mod).

I couldn't beleive it either...but i was there. his other runs were like 13.65, 13.89, and even a 13.99 the slowest trap was 106 weird but my trap speeds were higher that night too I usually spin like crazy and run a 13.00 to 13.10 @ 122-123 and I ran a 12.99 @ 125 and a 13.00 @ 126

[Capt._Ron]

What do you have fahhaque700

[FAHHQUE700]

'04 GT with an 8psi Vortec kit and exhaust, running on KDW II's street radials. makes 350/350 ish

[WINDSOR]

'04 GT with an 8psi Vortec kit and exhaust, running on KDW II's street radials. makes 350/350 ish

lmao now i KNOW the trap speeds are messed up because you will NEVER trap 126 with an 04 gt making only 350 rwhp...what did you have a 300 mph tailwind or something? :D

I bet if you go again and the clocks are working right you will run anywhere from 110-113 ish trap with the same et range.

[FAHHQUE700]

actaully it was a 450 mph tailwind

[jtownaccord]

actaully it was a 450 mph tailwindLOL