NEVER do business with

[accordon17s]

Never do business with Accura and Honda Specialists in Jonesboro. They somehow found a way to put a both axles, throw bearing, fly wheel, slave cylinder and clutch in inccorrectly. Hell they even seemed to find a way to strip the threads on my stock axles to the point where they were not even usable/resellable. They installed my driver side strut backwards too to the point of where it was rubbing against the axle. Then to make things even better i call to tell them about it and there like have it towed down to me, sorta cant do that considering the axle has rubbed against my strut to the point of where its about to SNAP! They wont reimburse me for any parts or labor either. I should have gone to BATLGROUND or another well known shop i know before someone else says it i will. These fucktards deserve to have there business run into the ground. Looks like its time i call ClarK Howard and the consumer action line. Yes its all under warranty for another 25 days.

[4dmin]

that sucks dude... i was told that was a pretty good shop too, i think couple of IL.com guys work there if i'm not mistaken... :thinking:

[Kristi]

that sucks dude

[99SI]

I'm sure someone else will really blow you up for this. Acura and Honda Specialists is a very well known and respected shop, if you had a problem you need to speak with Tom, I think that's his name. Good luck, and hopefully you have a flame suit on.

[5thgcelica]

well. at any rate. the shop may have had a good reputation. but it seem that they have screwed up this time. shops do it. it happens from time to time.

and if i were you, id defintely go to clark howard if you cant get them to do anything.

[99SI]

From what I have heard about this shop they are very good about resolving any problems and complaints. Posting up one side of a story on a forum is not a good way to go about getting anything constructive done. I for one would like to hear from A and H about their side of this. I'm sure Vteckidd can get Tom online as he has done before when someone flamed the shop. In that instance it turned out to be a completely different situation that what was originally presented by the disgruntled customer. 2 sides to every story.

[accordon17s]

Tom is the contact with A&H he hasnt done shit, i have had a conversation with him. The shop that is reinstalling my stuff is goin to send them a formal letter explaining what the problems were and what they had to do to resolve them. Maybe vteckidd can get tom on here and he can explain what there issue is. The work was completed on april 20th, it has a 2 month labor warranty, meaning it is still under warranty.

[4dmin]

2 sides to every story.


3 sides, his, thiers, & the truth ;)

[accordon17s]

3 sides, his, thiers, & the truth ;)

True!

[JoeCoolinATL]

Tom is the contact with A&H he hasnt done shit, i have had a conversation with him. The shop that is reinstalling my stuff is goin to send them a formal letter explaining what the problems were and what they had to do to resolve them. Maybe vteckidd can get tom on here and he can explain what there issue is. The work was completed on april 20th, it has a 2 month labor warranty, meaning it is still under warranty.


so even though the work is under warranty youre having work done at another shop? im going to bet that in a few days your going to post in this thread that your mad that toms shop wont pay you for what you paid the new place, when you could have had it towed to toms shop and have them fix the things if they are wrong under warranty.

[NEONRACER]

If you want to make sure that you never have a problem with amechanic learn to do the work yourself.

How do you install a strut backwards? This I have to see. How did they install the axles wrong? Axles are a no brainer install. With all the problems you mentioned with the tranny you should of known somehting wasn't right as soon as your drove it. Before you bash Tom and hte shop anymore post up a scanned copy of the formal letter so we can see proof or at least another shops opinion of what was installed incorrectly.

From my personal experience with people complaining about work done incorrectly it is actually the customer who is incorrect. Especially when the problems you described would be noticable from the first time you get in the car or the car was even driveable at all.

[JoeCoolinATL]

If you want to make sure that you never have a problem with amechanic learn to do the work yourself.

How do you install a strut backwards? This I have to see. How did they install the axles wrong? Axles are a no brainer install. With all the problems you mentioned with the tranny you should of known somehting wasn't right as soon as your drove it. Before you bash Tom and hte shop anymore post up a scanned copy of the formal letter so we can see proof or at least another shops opinion of what was installed incorrectly.

From my personal experience with people complaining about work done incorrectly it is actually the customer who is incorrect. Especially when the problems you described would be noticable from the first time you get in the car or the car was even driveable at all.



egg-fucking-zactly

[accordon17s]

The axle they used went to a automatic 99 accord which mine was at one point, the problem from my understandin is that the manual tranny has a different pitch than the auto tranny therefor it was pushed up against the strut at the bottom, i may not be using the correct terms. The fork at the bottom where the wheel connects to the axle was rubbing against the axle. I would not know bc it was a gradual thing. The axles looked to have been forced into the tranny instead of placed in with care, so thats how that got fucked up. The place i got my car towed to said they would not recomend me towing the car again due to the fact my axle would most likely SNAP. Accura and Honda specialist will not work with me so i posted up this. How would the car not be driveable??? The flywheel they used wasnt the correct one or wasnt installed correctly so that was wrong. If u dont know wat happened or the condition of the car then y open ur mouth is my next question. This is y i am only dealing with batlground from here on out, i have NEVER heard a complaint about them.

[b18hb]

if it was rubbing, you would have heard it before you covered 10 feet. how can you tell looking how much force was applied in seating the axels? a little force is required because there is a spring clip that has to be seated inside the transmission. gently placing an axel in there doesnt' usually cut it. also, if you were able to drive the car at all, i would find it hard to believe that the flywheel, clutch, and slave cylender were installed incorrectly, especially considering that it's impossible to install a clutch on a flywheel that's installed backwards and that you would have to be a moron to install a slave cylender the wrong way. the way they are designed, you would not have been able to drive it off the lot if they were incorrectly installed.

[accordon17s]

Ok update from the shop, the flywheel looks to have been a flywheel for a 2000-2002 model which is slightly different than for the 98-99 model. The clutch didnt line up correctly is wat i was told, clutch was about 50% worn when they installed it at A&H. The slave cylinder they cannot figure out why it went bad, the spring on it is stuck fully extended. The axle does have some movement in it such as up and down with the suspension/wheels so it only rubbed some of the time. I was told the axles look to have been FORCED into place, i do understand it take a lil force to get them in place but they were forcefully put in aka the ends of the axles that seat in the tranny have damage to them. The new parts i had to get were the slave cylinder, clutch kit, right and left axles and all the transmission seals.
Since i got the car back not even 200 miles have been put on it... It looks to the tech workin on my car and i quote like "they used various parts from various year 98-02 accords."

[NEONRACER]

Your right I don't know what exactly happened in this case but I do know by reading your post that you have made statements that are untrue. I would like to know how you determined the wrong flywheel was used without taking the tranny off the motor and inspecting it?

People bash good shops and give them a bad name. If you have a problem with the shop then deal with them and finish with them before you post about how bad they are. Most of the time they will fix the problem or at least work with you. If you came on here and bashed my shop without allowing me to look at the car then I would tell you to go fuck yourself too.

I guess what I am trying to say is I am tired of reading posts bashing shops when in the end the shop either did the job correctly or the problem was minor.

[accordon17s]

The tranny is sittin next to my car right now thats how they detirmined that, the measurements dont line up is all i know. I have tried to deal with them, the shop that has my car right now says they will contact them whether it be by letter or over the phone and tell them the problems they have had to fix. Im tired of dealing wit A&H it took them almost 3 weeks to complete a job other shops said they woudl have done in 5-7 working days and it seems to me and the shop working on my car now that the work was not completed correctly. I am not a mechanic or maybe i could tell u more, i am just relaying the message told to me. Flame if u want but im just tellin my side of wat is goin on.

[Vteckidd]

I would reserve judgement until the shops side is heard. if you guys remember, there was a thread like this like 2 months ago about them FUCKING up a civic, and came to find out the owner ofthat civic, brandon i think his name was, was in the wrong, and AHS did nothing wrong. so lets hear their side shall we.

Also remember that they are EXTREMELY busy, i go down there from time to time and they are always slammed. THey might take a longer time due to their continued repeat business.

I have always heard good things, and have actually had work done at AHS (they do all my alignments) and i have never had any problems. Matter of fact, ANY car that has had "PROBLEMS" with them is usually taken care of, or we learn it was the customers fault, or there was some other story we arent hearing. their mechanics are very CAPABLE, so i have a hard time believing that they put a strut on backwards, or put the flywheel in long.

You ARENT a mechanic, so why are you trying to act like one. right now some other shop is looking at it and trying to MAKE MONEY, so of course they are going to blame it on the last person that touched it.

not saying your at fault, but lets hear the whole story first, and plus, some of the things you are saying is PHYSICALLY impossible.

[accordon17s]

Yes Lets!

[Vteckidd]

Never do business with Accura and Honda Specialists in Jonesboro. They somehow found a way to put a both axles, throw bearing, fly wheel, slave cylinder and clutch in inccorrectly.
how was the axels put in wrong. if i remember correctly, the axles use a midshaft.

Throwout bearing was installed incorrectly HOW?

a flywheel goes in one way , elaboarate

how can a slave cylinder be put in wrong?

something doesnt sound right

[Allstar3.8T]

Theres no point in public bashing. The accuser ALWAYS ends up looking bad. Ironically not the accused. I know Tom, he will make it right if its wrong. Every shop in town makes mistakes, as soon as everyone learns that, we will be alot better off. The difference between shops is how they deal w/ it. When you start a fire of a post like was done here, you cut your own throat.
Just my experienced $.02

[accordon17s]

i dont know who did wat to my car the only think i know is there is a big gauge out of my the bottom of my strut and there was damage to my axle causing me to buy a new one. The flywheel it jus the wrong part was put it. No one has touched my car since it left there shop. Thats all i can tell you. Now if A&H want to they can make things right, i am not askin for them to reimburse me for the parts bc maybe the parts were bad, all i know is wat i am being told. The parts were bought used so it is completely possible. The owner of the shop where my car is at now is a friend of the family so they are not tryin to make money off me, hell they gave me a parts list and let me go pick up the parts so i wouldnt have to pay there overhead and delivery fees.

[Vteckidd]

who supplied the parts originally, and why did you use a used flywheel and a used clutch ???

[Vteckidd]

Tom here from A&H Specialists.

First of all let me say this:

THIS IS THE FIRST I'VE HEARD OF THIS PROBLEM.

You have not called me at all - period.

Also let me clear up a few points:

1. There never was any warranty offered - period. You supplied all the parts. We stand behind our work, but i never said "2 month warranty" - that warranty doesn't even exist with us. Jobs that we do in this capacity get a 6 month warranty if we supply the parts.

2. We did not even have to touch the struts when doing the trans. swap, so anything wrong there is your own doing.

3. The car was already "modifed" and there were already parts rigged on the car. there is no telling what else was wrong with this car before the car even got here.

4. Again you made no attempts to ever contact me - EVER. I did not say "have the car towed in" or anything of the sort - you are a liar, period.

Let me also say that YOU SUPPLIED ALL OF THE PARTS VIA M&S SALVAGE!!!

Also I told you we always suggest doing a new clutch when we replace transmissions, but you told me "I'll get to that later" so again that's all you bro.

The axles, blah blah blah - exactly what you supplied via M&S. They were totally different from your auto axles because the AUTO AXLES ARE UNEQUAL LENGTH SO YOU ARE LYING ABOUT US USING "AUTO" AXLES!!!

The only time I ever heard from you was the day after we completed the swap when you told me this:

"Dude I don't know what you guys did to my car, but it's sooo fucking fast!!! I just beat a fully built H22A Civic last night and I wasn't even hitting full throttle!!!

Do you not recall that?

Ask anyone who has actually had work done at my shop - not speculative he said she said BS - and they will tell you we go out of our way to help people IF they have a problem with our work.

I knew I should not have taken your car in. You said there was "no rush" yet you called me every day acting like you knew how to do the swap. When I told you the wiring was difficult/time consuming you called Honda and they said it only takes "15 minutes" yet you didn't understand that they were only talking about re-keying a key for the immobilizer, which they charge $90.00 to do.

I cannot stand people who talk shit behind anyone's back, shops included, when they have not even voiced the problems with the shop in qiestion first.

Here's a few more Q's for you bro:

DO YOU HAVE ANY PICTURES OF ALL THE DAMAGE?

WHY SHOULD WE WARRANTY PARTS SUPPLIED BY YOU?

WHY SHOULD WE WARRANTY ANYTHING GIVEN THE FACT THAT YOU WERE OUT STREET RACING THE NIGHT AFTER YOU GOT THE CAR BACK?

WHY SHOULD WE WARRANTY ANYTHING WHEN YOU DID A BURN-OUT WHEN LEAVING OUR PARKING LOT?

DO YOU EVEN KNOW HOW TO DRIVE A STICK? A CLUTCH WITH 50% LIFE SHOULD NOT BE DEAD WITHIN A MONTH!!!

Normally I'd take the high road here and offer you some help, but since you bypassed that route by NEVER calling me I'll tell you too bad bro.

I cannot wait to see what you have to say when confronted with TRUTH.

If anyone else would like to discuss this please remember, there are two sides to a story. He is giving half truths and in some cases straight up LIES in this shit-riddled topic.

[B16a2 Civic]

so its been said.....i think i'll go with teh shop on this one, made alot more sense...your burned out leaving? then raced that night.....c'mon

[chrisdavis]

oops time for some backpeddling

[Vteckidd]

/thread

[B16a2 Civic]

thats odd too...you supplied your own parts then complained about the parts not fitting

[Vteckidd]

waits for reply for "accordon17's"

oh so this was an AUTO TO MANUAL swap? then there IS NO WAY they could use auto axels in a manual tranny

Furthermore, i have used 94-00 f22/h23/h22 trans on several body style accords, and everything was interchangeable to my knowledge.

I just put a h23 trans on a 00 accord F23, and car drives perfectly, and there was ZERO issues

the trans was from a 95 prelude

[NEONRACER]

Tom vs some kid and Tom wins. This is the kind of thing that ruins shops and I wish more people woudl realize this. Here is what this thread has borught to IA.

H&A is a reputable shop and this customer does not that the fuck is going on.

[A.P. Photography]

I have known Tom for a long time and he is always straight up. They were the ones that fixed the ITR when Acura couldn't and that says a lot right there.


And what is this BS about you can't tow it because it could snap the axle? So what if it snapped, it is going on a roll back so it shouldn't matter :rolleyes:

[batlbrandon]

From what I have heard about this shop they are very good about resolving any problems and complaints. Posting up one side of a story on a forum is not a good way to go about getting anything constructive done. I for one would like to hear from A and H about their side of this. I'm sure Vteckidd can get Tom online as he has done before when someone flamed the shop. In that instance it turned out to be a completely different situation that what was originally presented by the disgruntled customer. 2 sides to every story.



Posting it up is exactly what he should do to get it resolved. if they are so good and reputable then I think they will take care of it. this just lights fire under their ass. I know that if we were responsible for messing up a car it would be plastered all over the net. It is the way things work. THIS IS NOT A BASH, I was just browsing the thread.

[batlbrandon]

both sides have been told and it looks like the shop has a better explanation. I think the killer was the used parts.

[Vteckidd]

HE should ONLY post it after ALL AVENUES HAVE BEEN EXHAUSTED. he cant point fingers and say "NEVER DO BUSINESS WITH (INSERT SHOPS NAME HERE) EVER" if he hasnt evne fucking called to complain or try to figure out a resolution. If he needed to just get the situation resolved he shoukd have said something to the effect of "UNHAPPY WITH SERVICE" or "TRIED CALLING AND WORKING A SITUATIION OUT, NEED ADVICE" something to that effect. not a blatant call out thread which he was trying to do.

[batlbrandon]

he's pissed, some people deal with it differently. like I said I expect nothing less if something like this happened to us.

[Vteckidd]

Posting it up is exactly what he should do to get it resolved. if they are so good and reputable then I think they will take care of it. this just lights fire under their ass. I know that if we were responsible for messing up a car it would be plastered all over the net. It is the way things work. THIS IS NOT A BASH, I was just browsing the thread.

TOM HERE AGAIN, FROM THE SHOP IN QUESTION...

No this is how you resolve a problem with a shop:

1. Actually call the shop and speak to the person who handled the car the first time.

2. If you do not get any help from the point of contact, then go higher up by speaking to the owner.

3. At this point if you get no help, THEN feel free to post your experiences up on the net, but make sure you tell the whole story and be truthful.

This gentleman has skipped steps one and two, and did nothing to convey any truth when skipping to step three.

This is just outright bashing in every sense of the word.

I knew that when the car was delivered to the owner he was a bit upset because the job took a few extra days than what I had originally quoted. Also when we spoke over the phone i had not researched the wiring and it to say the least time consuming. My initial time estimate was "one week from the time the car is dropped off granted there are no parts problems" and it ended up being maybe 2-3 days later because:

1. YOUR parts suppler dragged ass in getting us essential parts like mounts, the speed sensor, and the pigtail for the speed sensor.

2. The mechanic working on your car was out for a day due to illness, which I called and told you about even though you were calling me every day rushing us even after you clearly stated that "i've been without the car for two weeks, so i'm not in a hurry..."

3. The time estimate was for a car without all of the extra wiring - I'd say we still did a good job considering the extra wiring problems this swap poses.

I apologized repeatedly for the time delays, and your call the day after reassured me that you were 100% satisfied.

Until somsone instant messaged me this topic I had no clue that you any any single complaint.

[99SI]

I am glad I brought this thread back to the top so it could get some attention. Used Parts? WTF? I can understand a used engine or tranny but used axles, clutch, and flywheel? I think AHS have not lost any business over this matter but once again someone was made to look very foolish by handling thiings the wrong way. As Vteckidd stated if he would have said, "having trouble with AHS,someone help" there might have been a pleasant resolution to this mess.

[4dmin]

1. Actually call the shop and speak to the person who hanlded the car the first time.
well he did say "the shop wanted him to tow it back there" but the axles were messed up so obviously he talked to the shop....

not to point fingers or place blame, but if he feels that the shop was no help when he called and he rather go else where let him... it happens all the time i don't see why everyone is up in arms about everything. 90% of the people posting including myself don't know the situation so don't add any fuel to the fire.

granted the internet isn't always the best place to post such things, but it obiously makes some sense ;)


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[Vteckidd]

well he did say "the shop wanted him to tow it back there" but the axles were messed up so obviously he talked to the shop....

not to point fingers or place blame, but if he feels that the shop was no help when he called and he rather go else where let him... it happens all the time i don't see why everyone is up in arms about everything. 90% of the people posting including myself don't know the situation so don't add any fuel to the fire.

granted the internet isn't always the best place to post such things, but it obiously makes some sense ;)
as tom said, he was lying , no attempt was made to talk to the shop in question.

I will take toms word over this guys, sorry.

[batlbrandon]

LIKE I SAID I AM NOT TAKING SIDES ON THE SITUATION. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH AHS. don't make this more than it is. I am merely defending his right to post it up.

[4dmin]

as tom said, he was lying , no attempt was made to talk to the shop in question.

I will take toms word over this guys, sorry.

like i said before 3 sides to every story.... his + thiers + the truth

[Vteckidd]

TOM HERE AGAIN ON MIKE'S USER NAME


well he did say "the shop wanted him to tow it back there" but the axles were messed up so obviously he talked to the shop....


Dude I AM the guy he said he called at the shop!!!

He is lying - point blank dude.

[Vteckidd]

Private MESSAGE From "ACCORDON17's"

Im also not posting anymore in the thread til i get in touch with them and hear there side. Last week they said they would not warranty anything when i called them and told them the clutch was slippin, he was just talkin about parts now that i think about it tho. also not all the post were by me, some were by my friend when i was away from the computer.

someones not telling the truth

[B16a2 Civic]

this is just getting worse and worse....i guess his "friend " was " lookin out for him"

[Spyder]

also not all the post were by me, some were by my friend when i was away from the computer.

someones not telling the truth

or that is the truth and he needs new friends.

[RutRoe]

Here's my Beef.

One, I love Tom and I know what kind of a person he is and how much he values people's honesty in business. If you meet Tom and can't take that away from the conversation then I don't think he'd want you as a customer to deal with.

Two, what sort of Asshat gets used parts from a junkyard,albeit one that I use and like, and expects them to function as new. If you paid for a bunch of crap that wasn't right and then drop it off and tell Tom to install it, guess what he's going to do? INSTALL IT>

Three, I really like Batlground because of Tracy and what I've heard of Dan. I think it's more than fair to say that if I heard or saw some idiot talking crap and leaving out important details about what happened that I would think of the shop first and the possiblities.

You see Brandon businesses should be a lot closer nit group then you maybe think. You guys aren't competition to each other, but certainly being allies would be more than easy. If you are the one signing the checks and you think that idiots starting bullshit threads about your shop in the future are cool, then don't change your position.

but if you realize how weaksauce that is and realize that you can have respect for fellow businessmen, then maybe just give it a " you're right.. should have heard both sides of the story"

Golden Rule Bitches.

[Julio]

this kid needs to be ban for talking BS. what a jackass.

[Brett]

Tom here from A&H Specialists.

First of all let me say this:

THIS IS THE FIRST I'VE HEARD OF THIS PROBLEM.

You have not called me at all - period.

Also let me clear up a few points:

1. There never was any warranty offered - period. You supplied all the parts. We stand behind our work, but i never said "2 month warranty" - that warranty doesn't even exist with us. Jobs that we do in this capacity get a 6 month warranty if we supply the parts.

2. We did not even have to touch the struts when doing the trans. swap, so anything wrong there is your own doing.

3. The car was already "modifed" and there were already parts rigged on the car. there is no telling what else was wrong with this car before the car even got here.

4. Again you made no attempts to ever contact me - EVER. I did not say "have the car towed in" or anything of the sort - you are a liar, period.

Let me also say that YOU SUPPLIED ALL OF THE PARTS VIA M&S SALVAGE!!!

Also I told you we always suggest doing a new clutch when we replace transmissions, but you told me "I'll get to that later" so again that's all you bro.

The axles, blah blah blah - exactly what you supplied via M&S. They were totally different from your auto axles because the AUTO AXLES ARE UNEQUAL LENGTH SO YOU ARE LYING ABOUT US USING "AUTO" AXLES!!!

The only time I ever heard from you was the day after we completed the swap when you told me this:

"Dude I don't know what you guys did to my car, but it's sooo fucking fast!!! I just beat a fully built H22A Civic last night and I wasn't even hitting full throttle!!!

Do you not recall that?

Ask anyone who has actually had work done at my shop - not speculative he said she said BS - and they will tell you we go out of our way to help people IF they have a problem with our work.

I knew I should not have taken your car in. You said there was "no rush" yet you called me every day acting like you knew how to do the swap. When I told you the wiring was difficult/time consuming you called Honda and they said it only takes "15 minutes" yet you didn't understand that they were only talking about re-keying a key for the immobilizer, which they charge $90.00 to do.

I cannot stand people who talk shit behind anyone's back, shops included, when they have not even voiced the problems with the shop in qiestion first.

Here's a few more Q's for you bro:

DO YOU HAVE ANY PICTURES OF ALL THE DAMAGE?

WHY SHOULD WE WARRANTY PARTS SUPPLIED BY YOU?

WHY SHOULD WE WARRANTY ANYTHING GIVEN THE FACT THAT YOU WERE OUT STREET RACING THE NIGHT AFTER YOU GOT THE CAR BACK?

WHY SHOULD WE WARRANTY ANYTHING WHEN YOU DID A BURN-OUT WHEN LEAVING OUR PARKING LOT?

DO YOU EVEN KNOW HOW TO DRIVE A STICK? A CLUTCH WITH 50% LIFE SHOULD NOT BE DEAD WITHIN A MONTH!!!

Normally I'd take the high road here and offer you some help, but since you bypassed that route by NEVER calling me I'll tell you too bad bro.

I cannot wait to see what you have to say when confronted with TRUTH.

If anyone else would like to discuss this please remember, there are two sides to a story. He is giving half truths and in some cases straight up LIES in this shit-riddled topic.

Id say Tom just :smileowne: ya

[accordon17s]

Alright fuck the bullshit and fuck Tom, i dont have time to deal with your lies. I have tried to make contact with u and to no avail. I guess ill just be reporting your business tactics to the the the better business buearu for not standing behind your work aka your labor. Oh and one more comment as a shop with such a "good reputation" if the parts looked to be less than great y would u not call the customer and tell them that, y would u install so called shitty parts. Lastly you did use one axle from a 99 and one axle from a 98, reason i know this is bc when i went to drop off the axles at honda to get my core charge, they made that exact comment to me. That right there threw up a red flag to me and was the final straw. I happen to know any other shop would warranty ANY and ALL work completed by them. Now i am through with this and through with Tom and anyone at AHS. Have a good life.

[B16a2 Civic]

ay mayne...you cant be madd...he did the work w/ the parts you brought....you might wanna blame the person you bought the parts from, i dont know Tom nor done buinsess with his company, nor do i know you, i have no allegiance to any of you so this is how i see it the outside lookin in......if you give tha man lemons and ask him to make orange juice you kno he's gon do....make a sour ass orange juice made of lemons....

[accordon17s]

I have talked to the parts supplier they said since its been past there 30 day warranty period they cannot help me. There really is nothing i can do about the parts bc the warranty is up. Yah so maybe they did provide shitty parts, but if the parts were so shitty y would u not call me was my point. Last convo i had w/ them before the install they told me parts were in and look good. So basically they lied to me, they also installed the incorrect flywheel and it would have been obvious to tell that (the shop that has my car made that comment). They are not tryin to make money off me they are a friend of my families so i dont think they would lie to me.

[B16a2 Civic]

i dunno, maybe talking face to face and havin a mature conversation without placing blame ...you might be able to work somethin out, he seems like a caring guy and his buisness seems to be doing good, might have to mewet somewhere in the middle to work somethin out.....but good luck to you and your new motor though

[Vteckidd]

TOM HERE AGAIN

You keep saying "wrong flywheel" but what about it made it the "wrong" flywheel? the clutch engaged absolutely perfectly, and you drove the car home and even bragged about your racing exploits, so again you're full of it bro. If it had been in fact "wrong" then it was have been obvious the first time the car was driven. Your "family friend" mechanic that seems to know everything should have done the swap in the first place since it seems that he can distinguish between a 1998 part and a 1999 part even though they look physically identical. also lest we not forget again that M&S supplied the parts, and the car drove fine the day it left our shop.

You just want to cry because you burned up your clutch by street racing everything in sight and/or your USED clutch hydraulics took a shit and the easiest thing to do is deny all responsibility and blame the shop who did the work.

Classic.


Alright fuck the bullshit and fuck Tom, i dont have time to deal with your lies. I have tried to make contact with u and to no avail.

Well I guess it boils down to your word versus mine here unfortunately, but can you name the dates and times in which you tried to call me? I have only been out one day in the past few months, and any other day if I'm at lunch you will be aksed to "call back" and you have not spoken with me at all since you called the day after your car was done.

Another example of your lies:

When you were trying to reach me one day after your car was towed in I was on a test drive when you called. You told my boss "well give his cel number. He called me from it one time and even said it was breaking up..."

Well I've got news for you bro - I don't even own a cel phone!!! My boss (the owner) knew something was up with you from the get-go, but I kept he at bay by saying you were probably just overzealous about getting it all started.


I guess ill just be reporting your business tactics to the the the better business buearu for not standing behind your work aka your labor.

Fell free to as you have no argument. There was no written, spoken, or implied warranty on the work because YOU SUPPLIED ALL OF THE USED PARTS. Like I said before, had you actually called me and spoken with me I would have gladly taken a look at the car, but again you bypassed that and took the immature shit-talking route and now you look like a total dumbass in front of everyone.


Oh and one more comment as a shop with such a "good reputation" if the parts looked to be less than great y would u not call the customer and tell them that, y would u install so called shitty parts.

I told you from the beginning that I recommended a new clutch, but again you went el-cheapo and said "I can't aford one and I'll do it later" even after I advised that you'd be wasting money on labopr again sooner than later because stock clutches don't hold up well when abused.


Lastly you did use one axle from a 99 and one axle from a 98, reason i know this is bc when i went to drop off the axles at honda to get my core charge, they made that exact comment to me. That right there threw up a red flag to me and was the final straw.

I just called Nalley Honda at (770)306-4600 in parts, and the wholesale manager looked up the parts you are talking about and guess what?

THERE IS NO CORE CHARGE ON THEIR 1998 OR 1999 ACCORD 4 CYLINDER, 5 SPEED AXLES!!!

Also I spoke with their parts manager who has been in Honda parts for DECADES and he said there is no way any parts guy he knows could visually distinguish between a 1998 and 1999 Accord 4 cyl. axle!!!

Caught in yet another lie, eh Steve-O? Anyone else can call your local honda dealership and verofy this - please do so and you'll see that this kid is lying to try and bolster his position, and also to try and make my shop look bad.


I happen to know any other shop would warranty ANY and ALL work completed by them.

False.

I cannot think of any shop that would warranty a wear item such as a clutch seeing as how the customer supplied the USED clutch against the advise of the service mananger! Clutch hydraulics such as the slave and master cylinders only come with a 12/12 warranty brand new from Honda, so again how do we warranty used hydraulics that you supplied?


Now i am through with this and through with Tom and anyone at AHS. Have a good life.

You were through with me the last time you called over a month ago when you told me about your awesome bullshit street racing story!

You have it set in your mind that you were wronged by my shop for whatever reason. You have NOT called me even still after this topic was posted, and I seriously doubt that you will ever call because you are the kind of person who hides behind a PC and talk infinite shit regardless of the truth.

Thank GOD that you are "done" with my shop, because honestly there are some people that you do not want as customers, and you are a shining example of that.

[accordon17s]

Tom im through with u and ur bullshit shop. U might as well stop running your dick sucker and prepare to have a investigation by the better business bureau. Once again i said shops would warranty there LABOR not the parts. I dont wanna talk to ur faggot ass so i wont be callin u. So shut the fuck up and go ruin some more cars.
By the way the honda dealership took one look at the axles and could tell they were not from the same car or from the same year.

[B16a2 Civic]

TOM HERE AGAIN





I just called Nalley Honda at (770)306-4600 in parts, and the wholesale manager looked up the parts you are talking about and guess what?

THERE IS NO CORE CHARGE ON THEIR 1998 OR 1999 ACCORD 4 CYLINDER, 5 SPEED AXLES!!!

Also I spoke with their parts manager who has been in Honda parts for DECADES and he said there is no way any parts guy he knows could visually distinguish between a 1998 and 1999 Accord 4 cyl. axle!!!

Caught in yet another lie, eh Steve-O? Anyone else can call your local honda dealership and verofy this - please do so and you'll see that this kid is lying to try and bolster his position, and also to try and make my shop look bad.



False.




thats the backbreaker.......i actually did speak to my friend at a honda dealership ( just now ) who does finacing and he yelled out to a guy in the parts dept and he said the same thing.....i just would like to know your response to this one......ay Tom, i dun kno if this would be customer/company privacy or somethin, but what swap was it and how much was it? if you cant say, its coo i understand

[99SI]

Having a used car lot and dealing with several shops, used parts that are supplied by customers are never warrantied, not even labor. It is because of people like Accordon17's that I don't sell $2000 or less cars. No matter how many times you tell someone, "you are buying an $800 car, it may break in a day, maybe a year, there is no warranty on this vehicle." As soon as something happens or breaks on the car, they always do the same thing, talk shit about your car lot and say you sold them a bad car and screwed them over. You buy cheap shit, you get cheap shit, it's as easy as that.

[Vteckidd]

Tom im through with u and ur bullshit shop. U might as well stop running your dick sucker and prepare to have a suit brought against u along with an investigation by the better business bureau. Once again i said shops would warranty there LABOR not the parts. I dont wanna talk to ur faggot ass so i wont be callin u. So shut the fuck up and go ruin some more cars.
By the way the honda dealership took one look at the axles and could tell they were not from the same car or from the same year.

TOM AGAIN...

See the real you comes through now, doesn't it?

If you really want to sue be my guest. We have legal counsel on call for instances such as this where a customer brings on false accusations. Please show me the work order where we expressed your warranty on the work using your supplied used parts - oh that's right, you cannot because there WAS NO WARRANTY - PERIOD!!!

[99SI]

The BBB does not do investigations over bullshit claims such as yourself. They make a notation in a file, but that's the extent of it. The BBB is nothing but a reference service and can do nothing against his shop. If you do file a grievance with the BBB the shop will have a chance to refute your claim and since Tom has definately got the better argument here I'm sure it will never make it into record.

[A.P. Photography]

Lastly you did use one axle from a 99 and one axle from a 98, reason i know this is bc when i went to drop off the axles at honda to get my core charge, they made that exact comment to me. That right there threw up a red flag to me and was the final straw. .
You are a certified Dumbass. I have worked in parts for roughly 8 years and two years as a tech and there is NO WAY you can tell them apart by just looking at them.

Man look, you screwed up by taking the cheap way out and buying used parts and insisting that A&H install them when advised not to. Apparently you did a burn out in the parking lot and then went out street racing that night so that right there probably says a lot to what ended the parts life early. And no shop that I know of or have worked at will warranty any work when supplied with the parts by the customer. That is all on you, not the shop. If you can't afford to do it right the first time, then you need to hold off till you can.

[A.P. Photography]

Tom im through with u and ur bullshit shop. U might as well stop running your dick sucker and prepare to have a investigation by the better business bureau. Once again i said shops would warranty there LABOR not the parts. I dont wanna talk to ur faggot ass so i wont be callin u. So shut the fuck up and go ruin some more cars.
By the way the honda dealership took one look at the axles and could tell they were not from the same car or from the same year.
:lmfao: That is funny, there is not a single shop that will warranty labor on used parts or parts supplied by the customer. If a shop does then they just want to go out of business.

[Brett]

I am locking this thread, this is total BS!! The shop was not at fault obviously, A person wupplies used parts and then expect them to be like new.

The shop did no wrong

[HiPSI]

i vote for BAN on accord boy... he's talking mad shit and can't back up a single bit of it.

[quickdodge®]

IATL. Later, QD.