2257 law (fuck bush)

[Big Rick]

anyone heard of this law? its fuckin stupid. Bush is tryin to kill porn. with this law webmasters that deal with porn would have to keep records of every single girl on their site, doc. such as date of birth, name, etc. personal infomation.

big problem for submitters, as the TGP owners would have to be sent the 2257 documents with every submission. I don't think many TGP owners will want to go through that hassle of keeping track of other webmasters 2257 info for 5 years. That would be over 50 thousand 2257 document records a normal 30 gallery a day TGP would be required to keep over 5 years.

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00002257----000-.html

[speedminded]

sounds like someone doesn't think they are going to win the next election and needs something to boost their image....

[HyPer50]

sounds like someone doesn't think they are going to win the next election and needs something to boost their image....


Umm.. not sure if i totally understand what your saying. But Bush has already won the 2nd election, which means this is his final term, regardless of public perception. Welcome to 2005 = )

[Jimmy B]

duuurrrrr.....

its prolly to keep underage girls off the internet.. and to get child porn sights..

[Danny]

sounds like someone doesn't think they are going to win the next election and needs something to boost their image....

Brilliant statement.

[Big Rick]

duuurrrrr.....

its prolly to keep underage girls off the internet.. and to get child porn sights..

its suppose to be to keep underage porn of the net, which in that case i agree but he could have done this a different way. the way it was written up was bascially to try to kill porn. I havn't read the whole law but its suppose to affect forums also from what have been said. gonna look into that.

[Danny]

I havn't read the whole law but its suppose to affect forums also from what have been said. gonna look into that.

If you havent read and dont fully understand the law, then why post such an opinion that should be based on the full knowledge of this law?

I am no lawyer, but it seems like it is not effecting online mediums, only effects media that is not viewed digitally. But hey, it should effect both. And i am not sure how it would completly kill these acts, it will just limit the 'actors' a producer has to select from. Sounds like a raise in profit for the actors if you ask me. The law seems to be good in my books, I would love to see why you think it is "killing" the industry, exactly.

[Big Rick]

If you havent read and dont fully understand the law, then why post such an opinion that should be based on the full knowledge of this law?

I am no lawyer, but it seems like it is not effecting online mediums, only effects media that is not viewed digitally. But hey, it should effect both. And i am not sure how it would completly kill these acts, it will just limit the 'actors' a producer has to select from. Sounds like a raise in profit for the actors if you ask me. The law seems to be good in my books, I would love to see why you think it is "killing" the industry, exactly.

big problem for submitters, as the TGP owners would have to be sent the 2257 documents with every submission. I don't think many TGP owners will want to go through that hassle of keeping track of other webmasters 2257 info for 5 years. That would be over 50 thousand 2257 document records a normal 30 gallery a day TGP would be required to keep over 5 years.

do u understand that?

[Big Rick]

it will just limit the 'actors' a producer has to select from. Sounds like a raise in profit for the actors if you ask me.

see thats just the problem, it doesn't affect the producers as they will have all the info anyways. the producers then sell these pics to mostly tgp owners.

(2) A secondary producer is any person who produces, assembles,
manufactures, publishes, duplicates, reproduces, or reissues a book,
magazine, periodical, film, videotape, digitally- or computer-
manipulated image, picture, or other matter intended for commercial
distribution that contains a visual depiction of an actual human being
engaged in actual sexually explicit conduct, or who inserts on a
computer site or service a digital image of, or otherwise manages the
sexually explicit content of a computer site or service that contains a
visual depiction of an actual human being engaged in actual sexually
explicit conduct, including any person who enters into a contract,
agreement, or conspiracy to do any of the foregoing.

so lets say u wanted to make a site containing nude girls, for every girl u have on ur site u have to have documents to. In theory if you are cropping a thumbnail out of a sexually explicit image you are as stated above a secondary producer.

[Kevykev]

you guys are arguing over porn..

SHAME ON YOU ALL!

[Big Rick]

you guys are arguing over porn..

SHAME ON YOU ALL!

lol no arguing here, i'm on alot of webmaster boards so we understand how this affects us. i was just stating that i wasn't sure if this law affects forums.

[Danny]

not arguing, i could care less if its porn. I am just wondering about the legalities. Thanks rick, that cleared it up a little. I am still now lawyer. Whats a TGP owner? Sorry, i am ignorant to the legalities of porn.lol

[Kevykev]

you men still arguing over pR0n? :tongue:

[HyPer50]

not arguing, i could care less if its porn. I am just wondering about the legalities. Thanks rick, that cleared it up a little. I am still now lawyer. Whats a TGP owner? Sorry, i am ignorant to the legalities of porn.lol

Not sure what the TGP stands for, but it's basically all the free daily porn galleries, like worldsex.com, callkelly.com, etc. Dont ask me how I know those sites....

[kilpatty43]

bush never should have been re-elected...a whole bunch of shit is going to change...he's a fucking idiot

[Big Rick]

you men still arguing over pR0n? :tongue:

hahaha can u imagine the world without porn? this is an important matter, now go back to the NWS area where u were. :D

[Big Rick]

Not sure what the TGP stands for, but it's basically all the free daily porn galleries, like worldsex.com, callkelly.com, etc. Dont ask me how I know those sites....

u got it right :goodjob:

Thumbnail Gallery Post

[Big Rick]

not arguing, i could care less if its porn. I am just wondering about the legalities. Thanks rick, that cleared it up a little. I am still now lawyer. Whats a TGP owner? Sorry, i am ignorant to the legalities of porn.lol




A Thumbnail Gallery Post is referred to as a TGP. A TGP is a site that lists links to individual gallery pages submitted by adult webmasters and site owners.

A TGP owner will take submissions from either a submission form on their website or from email. They will review the submitted galleries and then post links to the galleries they decide are worthy for their page. Each TGP operator sets his or her own rules or guidelines for listing.

A TGP site will usually have banners and text-links to sponsors or for-sale programs. A TGP will often reserve the top spots on their daily list for paid submissions. You will find that many TGP sites contain a list of featured sites. These featured sites are usually other sites that are trading traffic with the TGP.

like HyPer50 said, its pretty much all those free sites with lots of galleries.

[batlbrandon]

Maybe a little late in my post here but I think it is cause his daughter got caught on film and plastered all over the net showin off her furry little beaver at the beach.

[HyPer50]

bush never should have been re-elected...a whole bunch of shit is going to change...he's a fucking idiot

Hey, well atleast half the nation thought he should of been, so get over it = P

[Julio]

Hey, well atleast half the nation thought he should of been, so get over it = P


hammerowned.

BUSH RULES THE WORLD!

[The Yousef]

hammerowned.

BUSH RULES THE WORLD!


sad part is....he thinks he does....

[Leisa]

omg this has got to be the gayest thread ever :gay: :gay: :gay: :gay: :gay: :gay: :gay: :gay: :gay: :gay: :gay: :gay: :gay: :gay: :gay: :gay: :gay: :gay: :gay: :gay: :gay: :gay: :gay: :gay: :gay: :gay: :gay:

[Vteckidd]

bush never should have been re-elected...a whole bunch of shit is going to change...he's a fucking idiot
another worthless liberal

[SaraX5]

i like the 2257 law. imo

[JoeCoolinATL]

there have been laws like this for webmasters for years. most of this started during the clinton era actually.

[Dragonfly5338]

Maybe a little late in my post here but I think it is cause his daughter got caught on film and plastered all over the net showin off her furry little beaver at the beach.

:lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:

[02QR25]

theres no way porn can be stopped, i mean its just too big, its like the war on drugs people dont want drugs around but its everywhere. and IMO a world without porn is a sad sad world

[HEATON]

Maybe he just wants the info for his black book..lol..JK..Its actually a good idea. If its the reason of gettin rid of kiddie porn.