Thackers Story about the M3 on LS1tech

[crafty]

I thought yall might find this funny...



http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=573843

[Reaper]

wow...just ...wow

[ThackerSS346]

I thought yall might find this funny...



http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=573843

M3 got walked. And thats what I posted up.

[crafty]

LoL. His car was still launching hard... its just decieving with my car launching next to it. My car has outlaunched an AWD skyline and now an AWD evo on the street.


Yeah that was my favorite part also.. What a cocky fuck.

[GTslOw]

Yeah that was my favorite part also.. What a cocky fuck. he is a 19 year old:gay: what do u expect :lmfao::lmfao:

[ThackerSS346]

Yeah that was my favorite part also.. What a cocky fuck.

The purple AWD skyline that came up and ran the 240, and a few other cars my car raced the week before. We gave it two cars, and was past it before the top of first gear. Put 12 on it before the finish. Don't hate because your shit 60's 1.79 and runs a 7.21 @ 98. On the juice.

[GTslOw]

The purple AWD skyline that came up and ran the 240, and a few other cars my car raced the week before. We gave it two cars, and was past it before the top of first gear. Put 12 on it before the finish. Don't hate because your shit 60's 1.79 and runs a 7.21 @ 98. On the juice.race crafty that would be a good race

[Reaper]

he is a 19 year old:gay: what do u expect :lmfao::lmfao:

Dont discriminate the 19 year olds cuz im one of em

[crafty]

The purple AWD skyline that came up and ran the 240, and a few other cars my car raced the week before. We gave it two cars, and was past it before the top of first gear. Put 12 on it before the finish. Don't hate because your shit 60's 1.79 and runs a 7.21 @ 98. On the juice.


LOL you read alot of old shit.. HA HA If thats what you think my car runs on the bottle.. Bring your shit out.. BOTTLE TO BOTTLE.. I'll only run 1 stage from a dig till whatever distance you want to let off at.. What ever amount of money you can get a loan for..

[SpoolBus]

race crafty that would be a good race

Crafty FTW....$CHA CHING$ :goodjob:

[GTslOw]

Dont discriminate the 19 year olds cuz im one of embut i didnt call u :gay:lol j/p

[Reaper]

LOL you read alot of old shit.. HA HA If thats what you think my car runs on the bottle.. Bring your shit out.. BOTTLE TO BOTTLE.. I'll only run 1 stage from a dig till whatever distance you want to let off at.. What ever amount of money you can get a loan for..

Thats fuckin awsome!!:goodjob::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[Reaper]

but i didnt call u :gay:lol j/p

haha true...

[crafty]

your shit 60's 1.79 and runs a 7.21 @ 98. On the juice.

LOL that was on wore out nittos. and a zex kit.. stock stall, stock heads, stock rearend, stock suspension ha ha

[WhiteAccord]

:lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :gay: HAHAHAHA:lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:

[b0ki]

no more comments for that stupid fuck

[lightspeed]

is ls1tech the only website on earth where people dont want to castrate him?

btw, its funny how he constantly says "cam-only SS" on here when he says in there that he has a built, forged motor and full bolt-ons. He's probably lying about the "stock" heads, since he refers to them as "factory" heads in the thread also. I imagine they are worked.
Basically, that car seems "fully built" in my book.
Id probably be pretty upset if I spent all that money and only made that much power out of an lsx motor.
Even if its setup for nitrous with lower compression, Id expect more.

[tony]

is he launching on slicks or street tires?

[LT1UltraZ]

is ls1tech the only website on earth where people dont want to castrate him?

btw, its funny how he constantly says "cam-only SS" on here when he says in there that he has a built, forged motor and full bolt-ons. He's probably lying about the "stock" heads, since he refers to them as "factory" heads in the thread also. I imagine they are worked.
Basically, that car seems "fully built" in my book.
Id probably be pretty upset if I spent all that money and only made that much power out of an lsx motor.
Even if its setup for nitrous with lower compression, Id expect more.

lol since when do u need lower compression for nitrous, oh ya the forged rods and pistons add about 100 hp lol....sorry i had to point out how stupid you are ;) oh yea his heads are Untouched, - the valve springs, you need to change those for a higher lift cam..other then that its a factory stock head never touched by a any type of grinder..happy?

[jackdaripper]

Jesus Christ Craft do you follow Thacker everywhere he goes?

You made a post on SCF about his thread over here and now your posting here about what you found somewhere else.

Its funny how Thacker has you thinking only about him and what he does.

How bout a race between us Crafty?

[crafty]

Jesus Christ Craft do you follow Thacker everywhere he goes?

You made a post on SCF about his thread over here and now your posting here about what you found somewhere else.

Its funny how Thacker has you thinking only about him and what he does.

How bout a race between us Crafty?

I'm down.. Saturday sound good to you? :goodjob:


The post on Streetcarforums was just to get everyone who hates him on here to fuck with him. and I stumbled onto the video on LS1tech..

[jackdaripper]

Yes as long as its not supose to rain, if it is Im putting an auto in the car and we can do it next weekend.

[LT1UltraZ]

I'm down.. Saturday sound good to you? :goodjob:


The post on Streetcarforums was just to get everyone who hates him on here to fuck with him. and I stumbled onto the video on LS1tech..

hey crafty why dont u post your story from Ls1tech and why everyone hates u there lol

[ThackerSS346]

hey crafty why dont u post your story from Ls1tech and why everyone hates u there lol

Crafty is a bitch. He is just trying to pawn shit off on me hoping people will hate me more than they hate him.


:goodjob:

[crafty]

hey crafty why dont u post your story from Ls1tech and why everyone hates u there lol

It's already been discussed on here many times... Do a search on here there are numerous threads... And I have lost many friends because of it. So feel free to bring it up again it you wish.. I've changed my outlook on things. The past is the past. I can only change the future..:goodjob:

[crafty]

As for you Thacker. I could care less about you. You;ll be banned off here soon enough. Don't hate me cause everyone hates you.. Not my problem..

[LT1UltraZ]

As for you Thacker. I could care less about you. You;ll be banned off here soon enough. Don't hate me cause everyone hates you.. Not my problem..
i guess you and thacker are very similar.....you both have a lot of people hating you eheh

[lightspeed]

lol since when do u need lower compression for nitrous, oh ya the forged rods and pistons add about 100 hp lol....sorry i had to point out how stupid you are ;) oh yea his heads are Untouched, - the valve springs, you need to change those for a higher lift cam..other then that its a factory stock head never touched by a any type of grinder..happy?
listen here, jerky...why dont you read WTF Im typing. I said "even if" its setup for nitrous with lower compression. I didnt say it definately was. If youre saying that a lot of people dont run lower compression with nitrous so they can run more shot and lessen the chance of detonation, youre the one who is stupid. Do you have to...no. Do a lot of people. YES.
And no, those other parts dont intrinsically add any power. The pont is that he's sandbagging his build by calling a built motor car a "cam-only" motor. Its an indicator of his lying, thats it.
And I have no reason to believe either on of you guys about the heads, but I guess ill take your word for it. i just dont see why he'd do a forged motor, cam, full-bolt ons, gears, drivetrain and suspension mods, and not even touch the heads...not even port-matching or anything. :eye:
who are you anyway? his dad?

[crafty]

i guess you and thacker are very similar.....you both have a lot of people hating you eheh

I guess so.. And if you want to contuine this coversation call me 678 516 8557. I'm not on here to make people hate me, So drop it...

[LT1UltraZ]

listen here, jerky...why dont you read WTF Im typing. I said "even if" its setup for nitrous with lower compression. I didnt say it definately was. If youre saying that a lot of people dont run lower compression with nitrous so they can run more shot and lessen the chance of detonation, youre the one who is stupid. Do you have to...no. Do a lot of people. YES.
And no, those other parts dont intrinsically add any power. The pont is that he's sandbagging his build by calling a built motor car a "cam-only" motor. Its an indicator of his lying, thats it.
And I have no reason to believe either on of you guys about the heads, but I guess ill take your word for it. i just dont see why he'd do a forged motor, cam, full-bolt ons, gears, drivetrain and suspension mods, and not even touch the heads...not even port-matching or anything. :eye:
who are you anyway? his dad?

well let me enlighten you...NITROUS doesnt need low compression as it COOLS THE INTAKE CHARGE...so sky high compression and nitrous is perfectly FINE.....as far as porting the heads...LS1 heads stock flow really well and i guess he didnt want to spend a lot of money on gaining 10-20hp that you get from porting the stock heads...hope it makes more sense to you now.

[lightspeed]

well let me enlighten you...NITROUS doesnt need low compression as it COOLS THE INTAKE CHARGE...so sky high compression and nitrous is perfectly FINE.....as far as porting the heads...LS1 heads stock flow really well and i guess he didnt want to spend a lot of money on gaining 10-20hp that you get from porting the stock heads...hope it makes more sense to you now.
If stock ls1 heads flow so well, why do I see people picking up 30+ whp by CNC'ing stock heads? Anway, its moot for us to speculate on why people do the things they do.
Oh, here is an excerpt from NOS's website:

Q: Can high compression engines utilize nitrous oxide?

A: Absolutely. High or low compression ratios can work quite suitably with nitrous oxide provided the proper balance of nitrous and fuel enrichment is maintained. NOS kits are used in applications from relatively low compression stock type motors to Pro-Modifieds, which often exceed 15 to 1. Generally, the higher the compression ratio, the more ignition retard, as well as higher octane fuel, is required. For more specific information talk to one of our technicians.

I took the liberty of bolding the part that makes my point. Its all on how the car is setup.
Ive had turbocharged, supercharged and nitrous cars..4, 6 and 8 cyl. I know a little bit about the chemo- and thermodynamics of power adders...I didnt just fall-off the turnip truck like some of the import owners on here.

[slowhawk01]

well let me enlighten you...NITROUS doesnt need low compression as it COOLS THE INTAKE CHARGE...so sky high compression and nitrous is perfectly FINE.....as far as porting the heads...LS1 heads stock flow really well and i guess he didnt want to spend a lot of money on gaining 10-20hp that you get from porting the stock heads...hope it makes more sense to you now.

What are the heads on his car???? Number wise I'll know what they are. Are they just 241's???

[slowhawk01]

. Generally, the higher the compression ratio, the more ignition retard, as well as higher octane fuel, is required.
.

Thats really only valid on a carb motor.Just stating facts on LS1's

[LT1UltraZ]

What are the heads on his car???? Number wise I'll know what they are. Are they just 241's???
whatever they are on a 2000 ls1

[fade2blk500]

yes factory casting 241's and i told everybody i was more than happy to pull the intake if we win and they want to see

[fade2blk500]

whatever they are on a 2000 ls1

2000's came with 241's and 853's

[slowhawk01]

yes factory casting 241's and i told everybody i was more than happy to pull the intake if we win and they want to see

Thats a big pain in the ass in a dark parking lot. I wouldn't do that unless he or you has some new injector o rings because they tear easily when you put them back in especially when there old. Just would hate to stuck in a parking lot with that probelm spewing fuel on a hot motor:screwy: .

[fade2blk500]

don't have to pull the injecors/rails, fuel line disconnect tool and a few towels to catch all the fuel will work fine :). i could have that thing off and on in 30 minutes with letting everybody look. if i make the right amount of money off the race. i wont mind at all :)

[lightspeed]

Thats really only valid on a carb motor.Just stating facts on LS1's
I know that you know a shitload about ls1's so Im not going to begin to dispute ls1 specifics with you. But, just answer one question honestly here...
True or False: Some people (regardless of if its the "right" thing to do in your opnion) who are building motors for nitrous will build them to be lower compression than they would otherwise build a N/A motor, so that they can run more timing (making it run better normally) or require lower octane in their street car (whether or not you think its true.)

[distortion]

Thacker ran all his times before the forged build.. he just has the forged motor cuz the diamond pistons/pro mod rods can handle a nice 200-250 hp shot ;)

He added a few more mods too.

Lightspeed: some folks do that, yes.. I will elaborate with some examples when I get off of work if you want. But it's not really applicable in Thacker or most ls1 owners application..

Ain't nothing much to do now but just wait til the weekend.

Back to work.

Later,
Josh

[slowhawk01]

I know that you know a shitload about ls1's so Im not going to begin to dispute ls1 specifics with you. But, just answer one question honestly here...
True or False: Some people (regardless of if its the "right" thing to do in your opnion) who are building motors for nitrous will build them to be lower compression than they would otherwise build a N/A motor, so that they can run more timing (making it run better normally) or require lower octane in their street car (whether or not you think its true.)

Yeah some people do crazy things but yes they do build them for lower compression. Different set ups thats what make people run diiferent

[LT1UltraZ]

I know that you know a shitload about ls1's so Im not going to begin to dispute ls1 specifics with you. But, just answer one question honestly here...
True or False: Some people (regardless of if its the "right" thing to do in your opnion) who are building motors for nitrous will build them to be lower compression than they would otherwise build a N/A motor, so that they can run more timing (making it run better normally) or require lower octane in their street car (whether or not you think its true.)
high compression motor with low timming will run better then a low compression motor with al lot timming.....i am sure you will dispute that too...

[lightspeed]

high compression motor with low timming will run better then a low compression motor with al lot timming.....i am sure you will dispute that too...
I think thats true in general. I generally dont dispute things I believe to be true.
Besides, I wasnt disputing anything, except the statement by thacker that his car is a "cam-only" car. Its really a fully-built motor with stock heads.
You also arent admitting the truth that some people do build nitrous street motors purposely with lower compression.

BTW, whats the compression ratio now on this "cam-only" SS, since you no so much about it?

[BUGMAN]

I don't think compression has a lot to do with it but more by choice unless it is gonna be strictly used for one purpose (NOS, Blower, Etc.). I have everything from 8:1 to 12:1 and the higher the compression the faster they seem to go. You just have to be careful on the timing issue or your day can be ruined in one pass.

I think the main issue is if your gonna use it as a daily driver because if you are then you won't care to ride around in a 16:1 car all day in traffic, etc...

Just my .02.

[distortion]

Wouldn't it be ideal for a pump gas class, where say someone wanted to spray a large shot.. and timing just wasn't doing the trick.. Going from 11:1 to 9:1 compression would allow you spray quite a bit more nitrous.. more power than the compression would provide. Now I may be wrong on this, this is just me reasoning it out. I did have a thread on it saved, but cannot find it from a few years ago.. but it has escaped me what all was included in the thread.. but it had some pretty good information in there from bret bauer and few other reputable builders in there.

Peace,
Josh

[WickedIXMR]

Dont discriminate the 19 year olds cuz im one of em
Yea i hate it when people discriminate against young people. Age doesnt mean shit. Also imho if someone is gonna race their car i think they should drive it cuz if you let someone else drive it cuz he drives it better is really pathetic.

[benwaballs]

Also imho if someone is gonna race their car i think they should drive it cuz if you let someone else drive it cuz he drives it better is really pathetic.


x10,000,000

the guys talking about no one knowing how to build a car to hook and this and that and calling ppl ricers but he can't even drive his own car! so SAD.

[lightspeed]

Wouldn't it be ideal for a pump gas class, where say someone wanted to spray a large shot.. and timing just wasn't doing the trick.. Going from 11:1 to 9:1 compression would allow you spray quite a bit more nitrous.. more power than the compression would provide. Now I may be wrong on this, this is just me reasoning it out. I did have a thread on it saved, but cannot find it from a few years ago.. but it has escaped me what all was included in the thread.. but it had some pretty good information in there from bret bauer and few other reputable builders in there.
Peace,
Josh
Josh, I agree with you, and Ive heard this from several people in the past. Depending on the intent, some people prefer to go with lower compression, with the intent of using more nitrous, which would more than make-up for the lower compression.
I guess its all how you set it up, or how you want to do it. It apparently works either way.
This was a silly tangent to go into anyway. I got jumped-on because I suggested that maybe he had a lower-compression motor for nitrous. Some people just like to harp on minutia and miss the overall point.