Question About The H22

[CompEngineer]

I own a 1990 Honda Civic LX. I am having a power stuggle with deciding between getting a new VTEC engine or to get a H22. I want to lean to the H22 for the more power it can offer me with the sacrifice of weight. Pleast give any information that might help me. Like so Pros and Cons or something.

Thank you.

[green91]

All h22 are DOHC VTEC. a h22 swap into a 90 LX is a significant job requiring custom mounts and body modifications because they have cable shifters, in addition to added weight in the front of the car. Custom axles will also be needed. You will also run into a wiring issue becase i believe the earliest h22 are obd1, requiring custom wiring or conversion harness. Pls the LX is DPFI, which will require you to atleast wire for mpfi.

[CompEngineer]

Sounds like a lot more money than I want to spend. Do you think the B16 would be cheaper and easier to swap out. I know I could squeeze a lot of power out of it if I put the time and money into it.

[green91]

b16a swap is a piece of cake. youll still have to wire for mpfi regardless, but you can modify stock linkage and its a much more straightforward swap

[VTECin5th]

h22 requires Premiums gas, Its DOCH VTEC Very good engine. Its gonna cost you alot to get it swapped. I'd get b16,b18,b20 for that type of civic.. Becuase I haven't seen h22 in a 1990 Civic...

[CompEngineer]

The gas is not a big problem. Not even all the re-wiring. Its getting the money do buy mounts, if needed, and getting all the extra stuff that I would need with the H22. It sounds to me like one of the B series would be better. Which one of the B series would ya'll recomend? I don't know if this would help but the car does have almost 205,000 on it.

[green91]

All vtec b-series require premium gas also. Which b-series is best for you depends on how deep your pockets are. Obviously the most affordable is the b16.

[§treet_§peed]

unmmm FYI not all H22's or H series are V-tec.....

[Ludester]

unmmm FYI not all H22's or H series are V-tec.....

h23a usdm and jdm aren't...
EUDM h23a are vtec...

[TypeRPersonality]

all h22's are vtec, and i don't think i've ever heard of a jdm h23

[green91]

unmmm FYI not all H22's or H series are V-tec.....

who said all h-series are VTEC (not v-tec btw). but all h22 ARE VTEC

[Ludester]

all h22's are vtec, and i don't think i've ever heard of a jdm h23

there IS a JDM h23a. I've seen one IN a prelude on meets on the south side of atlanta.

https://www.tigerjapanese.com/product_info.php?cPath=42&products_id=156

There IS a EUDM (European) H23a vtec bluetop. It comes in accord wagons with tip-tronic automatic transmission. I've seen this in person when I go back home to Jamaica.

here is one for sale on ebay with a h22 tranny.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JDM-97-HONDA-PRELUDE-H23A-BLUETOP-ENGINE-TRANS-H22A-H22_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33615QQihZ014QQitem Z330025645007QQrdZ1

[TypeRPersonality]

I want another person's credible input. i have heard of the eudm h23 with vtec, but what car would the jdm h23 non-vtec be in?

[§treet_§peed]

imma have to post my list up again.....

also i couldn't find the Euro version...:doh:

H22 2.2 16V DOHC VTEC PGM-FI 2157 190hp@6800rpm 152tq@5500rpm '94-'97 Accord SiR (JDM)
H22 2.2 16V DOHC VTEC PGM-FI 2157 200hp@6800rpm 161tq@5500rpm '92-'96 Prelude VTEC (USA)
H22A 2.2 16V DOHC VTEC PGM-FI 2157 220hp@7200rpm 163tq@6500rpm '97-'01 Prelude SiR (JDM)
H22A 2.2 16V DOHC VTEC PGM-FI 2157 200hp@7000rpm 156tq@5250rpm '99-'01 Prelude (USA)
H22A 2.2 16V DOHC VTEC PGM-FI 2157 200hp@7200rpm 163tq@6500rpm '97-'01 Prelude Type-S (JDM)
H22A1 2.2 16V DOHC VTEC PGM-FI 2157 195hp@7000rpm 156tq@5250rpm '97-'98 Prelude (USA)
H22A1 2.2 16V DOHC VTEC PGM-FI 2157 190hp@6800rpm 158tq@5500rpm '94-'96 Prelude VTEC (USA)
H23 2.3 16V DOHC PGM-FI 2259 160hp@5800rpm 156tq@4500rpm '93-'95 Prelude Type-S (JDM)
H23A1 2.3 16V DOHC VTEC PGM-FI 2259 160hp@5800rpm

[Bishop]

unmmm FYI not all H22's or H series are V-tec.....




H22 2.2 16V DOHC VTEC PGM-FI 2157 190hp@6800rpm 152tq@5500rpm '94-'97 Accord SiR (JDM)
H22 2.2 16V DOHC VTEC PGM-FI 2157 200hp@6800rpm 161tq@5500rpm '92-'96 Prelude VTEC (USA)
H22A 2.2 16V DOHC VTEC PGM-FI 2157 220hp@7200rpm 163tq@6500rpm '97-'01 Prelude SiR (JDM)
H22A 2.2 16V DOHC VTEC PGM-FI 2157 200hp@7000rpm 156tq@5250rpm '99-'01 Prelude (USA)
H22A 2.2 16V DOHC VTEC PGM-FI 2157 200hp@7200rpm 163tq@6500rpm '97-'01 Prelude Type-S (JDM)
H22A1 2.2 16V DOHC VTEC PGM-FI 2157 195hp@7000rpm 156tq@5250rpm '97-'98 Prelude (USA)
H22A1 2.2 16V DOHC VTEC PGM-FI 2157 190hp@6800rpm 158tq@5500rpm '94-'96 Prelude VTEC (USA)


huh?

you just proved yourself wrong lol

all h22's are vtec

[TypeRPersonality]

LOL!

[§treet_§peed]

in that yes i know...but i thought i had remembered reading some where about a Euro verison some where that wasn't vtec...or some version of it that wasn' but as of now yes i do stand corrected and admit it...

[Bishop]

in that yes i know...but i thought i had remembered reading some where about a Euro verison some where that wasn't vtec...or some version of it that wasn' but as of now yes i do stand corrected and admit it...
lol cool....you just kinda confused me there

[§treet_§peed]

...indeed

[TypeRPersonality]

But still, what car would the jdm h23 non-vtec be in? I thought 92-96 was h22 200hp and 97-01 was h22 type s 220hp?????????? (jdm models)

[an0therh22]

thread jackers anyways i say u do get the h22 and mount it for ur civic and be different shure u wont be needing the extra tq but itll be very fun to drive over a b16 it made a very big difference in my accord just my 2cents

[§treet_§peed]

H23A1 2.3 16V DOHC VTEC PGM-FI 2259 160hp@5800rpm 156tq@4500rpm '92-'96 Prelude Si (USA) *

[§treet_§peed]

But still, what car would the jdm h23 non-vtec be in? I thought 92-96 was h22 200hp and 97-01 was h22 type s 220hp?????????? (jdm models)
:goodjob: H23 2.3 16V DOHC PGM-FI 2259 160hp@5800rpm 156tq@4500rpm '93-'95 Prelude Type-S (JDM)

[green91]

good grief. can someone do something other than post from a list they found on h-t around here?

[§treet_§peed]

i'm betting prolly not...dude H-T has a shit load of good stuff!!! :D

[§treet_§peed]

also i didn't get that list from honda tech...:goodjob: :D

[Halfwit]

in that yes i know...but i thought i had remembered reading some where about a Euro verison some where that wasn't vtec...or some version of it that wasn' but as of now yes i do stand corrected and admit it...
bahahahahhahaha

[Halfwit]

imma have to post my list up again.....

also i couldn't find the Euro version...:doh:

H22 2.2 16V DOHC VTEC PGM-FI 2157 190hp@6800rpm 152tq@5500rpm '94-'97 Accord SiR (JDM)
H22 2.2 16V DOHC VTEC PGM-FI 2157 200hp@6800rpm 161tq@5500rpm '92-'96 Prelude VTEC (USA)
H22A 2.2 16V DOHC VTEC PGM-FI 2157 220hp@7200rpm 163tq@6500rpm '97-'01 Prelude SiR (JDM)
H22A 2.2 16V DOHC VTEC PGM-FI 2157 200hp@7000rpm 156tq@5250rpm '99-'01 Prelude (USA)
H22A 2.2 16V DOHC VTEC PGM-FI 2157 200hp@7200rpm 163tq@6500rpm '97-'01 Prelude Type-S (JDM)
H22A1 2.2 16V DOHC VTEC PGM-FI 2157 195hp@7000rpm 156tq@5250rpm '97-'98 Prelude (USA)
H22A1 2.2 16V DOHC VTEC PGM-FI 2157 190hp@6800rpm 158tq@5500rpm '94-'96 Prelude VTEC (USA)
H23 2.3 16V DOHC PGM-FI 2259 160hp@5800rpm 156tq@4500rpm '93-'95 Prelude Type-S (JDM)
H23A1 2.3 16V DOHC VTEC PGM-FI 2259 160hp@5800rpm

AHAH "LET ME POST MY LIST SO I CAN SHOW YOU HOW RIGHT YOU ARE!!!"

GAH DAMN

[Ludester]

:goodjob: H23 2.3 16V DOHC PGM-FI 2259 160hp@5800rpm 156tq@4500rpm '93-'95 Prelude Type-S (JDM)

yo street speed... your getting the models mixed up man

92-96 there was a "Prelude S" 96-01 there was a "Prelude Type S"

Prelude S had a f22 in it. Prelude type S has a factory port and polished h22 with 11:1 compression. The type S also had ATTS like the USDM Prelude type SH. See the difference?

[VTECin5th]

all h22's are Vtec

[§treet_§peed]

...indeed

[§treet_§peed]

and shut up emo bitch you know you my ho so go work the street corner and bring me my money before i powder up my pimp hand a smack you...:goodjob:

[o_bomb]

Put a b series in there. It would be easier. Putting a h22 in a 90 civic will require lots of professional help. It can be done. H23 came out of 92-96 prelude. Rare 92-96 preludes came with an h22a1 stock.