SR's are gay

[Outphase]

Discuss.

[sebastianHoff]

you've been getting that anal injection from skillzilla and eric too long. all that man juice congealin in your brain is making you stupid.

[Outphase]

I guess no one thinks about this...but pretty much it doesn't matter what engine you got...you can bring it to the same level, it just requires money...so what's the point on ragging on a build?

[Okay]

since we're talking about SR, does anyone have the stock intake hose? I need one asap. Can you get it at autozone or something? If so, what's the part's number? thanks

[1439/2000]

since we're talking about SR, does anyone have the stock intake hose? I need one asap. Can you get it at autozone or something? If so, what's the part's number? thanks

lol what the fuck.

240s are officially lame. 2 years ago.

[HalfBaked]

I guess no one thinks about this...but pretty much it doesn't matter what engine you got...you can bring it to the same level, it just requires money...so what's the point on ragging on a build?

Exactly it requires money..

Why spend extra money bringing a motor to the same level of another if you can do it and save money.

[Outphase]

Do the numbers then

How much does it cost to make a 10 second SR
How much does it cost to make a 10 second KA


Find that out...factor in everything, and then tell me the 'save money' bullshit.

[EmotorsportsE]

About the same, cause both need a rebuild, both need engine management, both need a new turbo setup, both cars need a different tranny, and both cars need suspension work.

Save your money and buy a early model viper.

E

[NoPainT]

I agree... 240s are a thing of the past...

[NoPainT]

I agree... 240s are a thing of the past...

[Outphase]

240's are GAY! Let's start a thread about that one...haha

[Outphase]

Anyone with a SR20 swap is a bitch, bitch you can't drive! Bitch!

[PSINXS]

yes i ahte my Sr20. shoulda bought a 2jz

[wantboost]

How 'bout we start a Outphase is gay thread. Someone make it happen. All his posts lately have been annoying.

[EP3sAreFun]

heres your answer. most ppl dont have enough money to build a 10 second, KA or SR

therefore they spend 3000 and buy an sr20det and slap on the loudest bov they can and call it a day.

[ChainSaw]

I like both SR's and KA's. I've spend time on both sr and ka-t forums. what I DO hate is the general trend that a 240 isn't worth anything if it doesn't have an sr swap.

one advantage the sr has over the ka in stock form is that it was designed as a turbo motor, where the ka wasn't. however for an N/A motor, the KA does work well with turbo, but on the stock internals will never be able to compete with an sr that could take higher levels of boost on it's stock internals.

as far as drifting is concerned, people's first reaction is to ditch the KA and go sr. which is fine, but the KA has potential. Putting out only 150 hp, most people think you can't drift without power, but in reality the KA becomes a great learning tool. Because it lacks power it forces you to master the basics of drifting in order to not look like a tool. Then when you get to the point where you are drifting the KA to its full potential, instead of spending money on expensive builds and having the car in the shop most of the time, you've developed your driving skill to the point where you would benefit from having more power.

so that said, I love the KA, especially in N/A form. Easy to maintain, and it will give you an appreciation for the other aspects of the vehicle other than just torque.

[Outphase]

BUT OMG SR20 HAS MORE POTENTIAL IT IS THE BETTEREST CHOICE BECAUSE IT COMES STOCK TURBRO AN U DON HAVE TO DO N E THIN JUST PAY SOME SHOP TO SWAP 4 U!

[ChainSaw]

BUT OMG SR20 HAS MORE POTENTIAL IT IS THE BETTEREST CHOICE BECAUSE IT COMES STOCK TURBRO AN U DON HAVE TO DO N E THIN JUST PAY SOME SHOP TO SWAP 4 U!

you wanna take this outside?

[PSINXS]

i vote rape outphase with an sr20 rod and piston

[turbosx©]

ka-t ftw!!!! mauahahahaha lol

[Outphase]

i vote rape outphase with an sr20 rod and piston


nothing but 'gay' trash talk comes out of your club :gay:
all the comments you make are literal gay references, are you guys a rainbow team or something?

[YokotaS13]

since we're talking about SR, does anyone have the stock intake hose? I need one asap. Can you get it at autozone or something? If so, what's the part's number? thanks
i have 3 40 shipped each

[YokotaS13]

Anyone with a SR20 swap is a bitch, bitch you can't drive! Bitch!
so what if its not a swap, and was born in teh ar already? is it gay then?

[Outphase]

i have 3 40 shipped each


You're a bitch trying to make money.

[Okay]

thanks yokota but I found mine under the car...haha.

[PSINXS]

nothing but 'gay' trash talk comes out of your club :gay:
all the comments you make are literal gay references, are you guys a rainbow team or something?
of course. which is why i am going to enjoy raping you.

[Outphase]

Like that isn't gay or anything.

[PSINXS]

stop fighting the feeling. you like men!

[Outphase]

Ha. I'm sorry you must have me confused for someone else.

[Big J]

The word gay occures more in the nissan section of this forum, than the rest of the entire fourm. I'm not jumping to conclusions, but I might have to get a honda.

[Outphase]

Haha, Toyota , bitches!

[YokotaS13]

You're a bitch trying to make money.
yep, adn have made over 4gs in 3 months

can you match that for just selling parts to people?
No

[EP3sAreFun]

Haha, Toyota , bitches!
unless its a supra, or mr2(not spyder), hell maybe a cressida or celica

new corolla though? pig pile o crap. only good corollas are the old ones. haha

[Outphase]

unless its a supra, or mr2(not spyder), hell maybe a cressida or celica

new corolla though? pig pile o crap. only good corollas are the old ones. haha

I have to agree. I hate new cars in general. I bought it because it was pretty damn cheap for a Yota, and the fact that it's faster than 90% of the "Intake/Exhaust" Hondas you see on the road.


And the only Nissan 'tuners' own is a 240SX.
And the only Honda 'tuners' own is a Civic.


There is no 'common' stereotype you can fit with Toyota in terms of 'tuners' go, because we're not as common as the handful of people you see running around. I think you will be able to agree, Mr. Starion.

[EP3sAreFun]

I have to agree. I hate new cars in general. I bought it because it was pretty damn cheap for a Yota, and the fact that it's faster than 90% of the "Intake/Exhaust" Hondas you see on the road.


And the only Nissan 'tuners' own is a 240SX.
And the only Honda 'tuners' own is a Civic.


There is no 'common' stereotype you can fit with Toyota in terms of 'tuners' go, because we're not as common as the handful of people you see running around. I think you will be able to agree, Mr. Starion.
hmmmm you said something inteligent and valid.. i'm not sure how i should respond.

all the supra guys are... well... supra guys.

all the corolla guys are... well corolla guys lol same for the mr2

[Outphase]

I don't think that quite works. I know a guy that has a 12 second MR-2, a buttload of 240's, and a buttload of AE86's.

[EP3sAreFun]

well ofcourse theres some exceptions, i speak in general ofcourse

[Outphase]

Of course. Pink Starions = Double exception. Haha. Nah, no bash...I want to see yo ride.

[ChainSaw]

yep, adn have made over 4gs in 3 months

can you match that for just selling parts to people?
No

I made $4500 in 2 weeks just sitting around and surfing the interweb.

[PSINXS]

I have to agree. I hate new cars in general. I bought it because it was pretty damn cheap for a Yota, and the fact that it's faster than 90% of the "Intake/Exhaust" Hondas you see on the road.


And the only Nissan 'tuners' own is a 240SX.
And the only Honda 'tuners' own is a Civic.


There is no 'common' stereotype you can fit with Toyota in terms of 'tuners' go, because we're not as common as the handful of people you see running around. I think you will be able to agree, Mr. Starion.
only 240sx? the majority do tune 240sx's. i started with 300zxs. i would thinkk the Z car is jsut as prevalent.

[Outphase]

Z will make a comeback, because it'll become the 'cooler' thing to do. Z's were always just mad expensive to start off with..and engine bay is ghetto to work with...gotta pull the motor anytime you wanted to do anything.

[BluesClues]

BUT OMG SR20 HAS MORE POTENTIAL IT IS THE BETTEREST CHOICE BECAUSE IT COMES STOCK TURBRO AN U DON HAVE TO DO N E THIN JUST PAY SOME SHOP TO SWAP 4 U!
WOW!!!!!:eek:

[ChainSaw]

I'll agree that there have been things in recent automotive history that appeal to the trend whores, but more than that it seems that being anti trendy is the most trendy thing to do. If I bought a Z or did an sr swap to a 240 it would be because I felt that was the direction I needed to go. I ignore trends and don't really care whats in or not.

Z cars have allways had a strong backing though.

[eraser4g63]

Ehh. Just buy a DSM!

[mrt0mjones]

All the platforms that are convienient to build are being over done.

it happens, live with it. Just respect the ones that are done right.


Speaking of which who wants a running FC for 1100 bucks (GXL non turbo) 5spd you dont see many of these !!

haha

[Sleepy122CID]

Exactly it requires money..

Why spend extra money bringing a motor to the same level of another if you can do it and save money.

Why doesn't everybody who thinks this just get a domestic? They are cheap and easy to make big power with...

[Sleepy122CID]

heres your answer. most ppl dont have enough money to build a 10 second, KA or SR

therefore they spend 3000 and buy an sr20det and slap on the loudest bov they can and call it a day.

Who says everybody wants a drag car?

[Tracy]

I have an SR, it's pretty gay. V8 FTW!

[Sleepy122CID]

I'll agree that there have been things in recent automotive history that appeal to the trend whores, but more than that it seems that being anti trendy is the most trendy thing to do. If I bought a Z or did an sr swap to a 240 it would be because I felt that was the direction I needed to go. I ignore trends and don't really care whats in or not.

Z cars have allways had a strong backing though.

The first intelligent post I've read on this thread...

I was told about these forums by a guy who delivers parts to the shop I work at. I was thinking it may be good to get away from some of the forums I frequent that are going to sh!t. When I see useless threads like this it makes me realize how good the other forums still are.

Don't think I'm all butt-hurt just because some person doesn't like SRs. It is more the blatant ignorance and/or misinformation that many people spout on public forums that puckers my ass.

I do have a 240SX. I do have a SR20DET. I've owned the engine since before there was any knowledge of forcing air into a KA24DET safely. The thing that made this engine so desirable to me is the strength of the stock internals of the engine and the power capabilities with merely a larger turbo and supporting fuel (with mild tuning via something as basic as a SAFC).

I personally built this engine. Although I have little experience, I am tuning it by myself. Do I think it is stupid if some people pay to have engines built/installed? Not really. Some people enjoy cars and like to drive but have no desire to take their automotive knowledge any further than that.

Is it a shame that I used a much smaller turbo than the engine/injectors could handle? Not in my opinion. I have not built a drag car (if I built a drag car it would have a much larger engine). I have not built a drift car. Although I hate when people seem disappointed that I don't drift the car (apparently the rumor is that is all 240s are good for), I don't hate drifting. If this car has been built for any purpose, I'd have to say it would be for grip driving.

Has my car ever seen a track? Nope. Will it ever? Not necessarily. I drive my car every day. I built the car for my own personal satisfaction.

I built my car because I love the fact that at the end of the day I get to drive something that my own hands put together. I love the stupid look I see on the faces of those who underestimate the potential of my car. I love still getting 25-30 mpg. I love the fact that sometimes I can't tell if that sucking sound is me being pulled into the back of my seat, or if it is the sound of the turbo spooling (read with sarcasm you jackass). I love the sound of unnecessary exhaust exiting through a 1.5" pipe as my car screams toward redline. I admit, I love the sound of the larger valve of my SSQV opening at higher boost levels. I love that as winter approaches, the colder air tries to persuade traction to let go at higher and higher speeds... I love that it never catches me off guard.

Sorry for the rant. I know some people will try and make fun of my car or this post. That is fine. I'd just like to encourage everybody to try and remember why they got into cars and what they still personally enjoy about them. Maybe I'm one of the few out there, but I'm tired of reading pointless threads like this...

http://photos.freshalloy.com/gallery/d/5483-2/P1010151.JPG

[EP3sAreFun]

Who says everybody wants a drag car?
I'm refering to the 17 year old who sells the car mommy and daddy bought them in order to buy some piece of shit car and have a swap do all the work for them so they can go drifting

Not when first started doing them. And i didnt exactly mean drag car, was mroe just refering to a fast car.

and besides... this Thread was started by Outphase. dont expect anything good/intelligent to come from him.

what kinda cars you work on? i can point you to a very good Starion forum if ya want some reading on something you'll never need lol ^_^

[Sleepy122CID]

I'm sure that other forum would entertain me... I don't know anything about Starions...

[EP3sAreFun]

www.starquestclub.com

[YokotaS13]

I have an SR, it's pretty gay. V8 FTW!
fuc yeah tracy

my parents are sellign thir house and getting one with 2 car garage so i can keep a 240 in it and work on it

[YokotaS13]

The first intelligent post I've read on this thread...

I was told about these forums by a guy who delivers parts to the shop I work at. I was thinking it may be good to get away from some of the forums I frequent that are going to sh!t. When I see useless threads like this it makes me realize how good the other forums still are.

Don't think I'm all butt-hurt just because some person doesn't like SRs. It is more the blatant ignorance and/or misinformation that many people spout on public forums that puckers my ass.

I do have a 240SX. I do have a SR20DET. I've owned the engine since before there was any knowledge of forcing air into a KA24DET safely. The thing that made this engine so desirable to me is the strength of the stock internals of the engine and the power capabilities with merely a larger turbo and supporting fuel (with mild tuning via something as basic as a SAFC).

I personally built this engine. Although I have little experience, I am tuning it by myself. Do I think it is stupid if some people pay to have engines built/installed? Not really. Some people enjoy cars and like to drive but have no desire to take their automotive knowledge any further than that.

Is it a shame that I used a much smaller turbo than the engine/injectors could handle? Not in my opinion. I have not built a drag car (if I built a drag car it would have a much larger engine). I have not built a drift car. Although I hate when people seem disappointed that I don't drift the car (apparently the rumor is that is all 240s are good for), I don't hate drifting. If this car has been built for any purpose, I'd have to say it would be for grip driving.

Has my car ever seen a track? Nope. Will it ever? Not necessarily. I drive my car every day. I built the car for my own personal satisfaction.

I built my car because I love the fact that at the end of the day I get to drive something that my own hands put together. I love the stupid look I see on the faces of those who underestimate the potential of my car. I love still getting 25-30 mpg. I love the fact that sometimes I can't tell if that sucking sound is me being pulled into the back of my seat, or if it is the sound of the turbo spooling (read with sarcasm you jackass). I love the sound of unnecessary exhaust exiting through a 1.5" pipe as my car screams toward redline. I admit, I love the sound of the larger valve of my SSQV opening at higher boost levels. I love that as winter approaches, the colder air tries to persuade traction to let go at higher and higher speeds... I love that it never catches me off guard.

Sorry for the rant. I know some people will try and make fun of my car or this post. That is fine. I'd just like to encourage everybody to try and remember why they got into cars and what they still personally enjoy about them. Maybe I'm one of the few out there, but I'm tired of reading pointless threads like this...

http://photos.freshalloy.com/gallery/d/5483-2/P1010151.JPG
what turbo did you go with?

[green91]

I dont understand the hate other than its a popular swap, but surely is popular for a reason? Oh yea. Its inexpensive swap, huge aftermarket support, and stock block can handle alot of power before requiring bottom end modification. good logic, dumbass.

[Sleepy122CID]

Yokota, I ended up going with a Precisions SC5031E. If I had known I was going to take the build as far as I did, I would've waited a bit longer and sunk a little more into a ball bearing turbo... And if I had waited a year longer I would've probably ended up with a divided manifold and... well you get the idea...

http://photos.freshalloy.com/gallery/d/5576-2/P1010185.JPG

[JeffC183]

My first real car was an 88 Mazda RX-7 Turbo II, and after that bad experience I will say ill never buy another RX-7 in my life. after that I was looking for another alternative in my price range, I have owned 2, 240s a hatch (which is no longer running) and a Coupe. I am about to do an SR upgrade because the motor and tranny in my coupe are having problems, and more over I want to have a little bit more fun with my car. I like all kinds of cars, but the 240 is what ill have to settle with for now, if I could own a 300ZX I wouldnt mind that. I would REALLY like a MR2 Turbo if I could afford that, but for now ill just have to settle for my 240, I dont think they are best cars in the world, but I do love Nissan and most of their cars, so ill have to stick with what I got for now.

My 2 cents.

[AFSil80]

I <3 the CA.

[PSINXS]

My first real car was an 88 Mazda RX-7 Turbo II, and after that bad experience I will say ill never buy another RX-7 in my life. after that I was looking for another alternative in my price range, I have owned 2, 240s a hatch (which is no longer running) and a Coupe. I am about to do an SR upgrade because the motor and tranny in my coupe are having problems, and more over I want to have a little bit more fun with my car. I like all kinds of cars, but the 240 is what ill have to settle with for now, if I could own a 300ZX I wouldnt mind that. I would REALLY like a MR2 Turbo if I could afford that, but for now ill just have to settle for my 240, I dont think they are best cars in the world, but I do love Nissan and most of their cars, so ill have to stick with what I got for now.

My 2 cents.
please lower your car.

[Kalifornia087]

My first real car was an 88 Mazda RX-7 Turbo II, and after that bad experience I will say ill never buy another RX-7 in my life.

You shouldn't let one bad time ruin a lot more good times.


please lower your car.

Oh and i agree about this.. LoL