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Tasuki_Civic
08-29-2006, 01:25 PM
theres so much to say about this subject i dont know where to start. and i know alot of pple on IA are not open minded about whats really goin on in america as far as african americans, black people , or which ever rolls off your tounge.

i think its sad that america has shined so much of how they want ethinic or black people are. everything that black pple say or do no matter how positive and how many positive things they do one negative can out wieght20-50 positive things when it comes to them.

everything accomplishment and tragedy is a mockery of this culture. and pple see it as a norm. i dont understand when pple say. ..."you Black pple have a change in this world now...you can do whatever you want" :no: not true exactly. i know it is possible that black pple can reach to a highg level of accomplishments. but its either your a "sell out" meaning you may look black but your really dont......support your background on any topic. you stick with other only to reach the goal of your own.

or you stopped "some way some how" ( threatened) or you never get the chance or you dont try cuz its is for certain that you wont get what you deserve if you work hard or harder to be where you want. ( theres more to it than i have stated)

but its so sad to acknowledge the anger and struggle that black people go thru on a daily basis no matter what field.

like for instance i was working with a white lady that had her own business doing faux finishing. my mother was teaching her youngest dauaghter in kindergarten. at the time i was lookin for a job and my mom had the lady call me cause she had room open for me. long story short i got tha job workin with her and another assistant she had. But what i didnt realize till later was that she excepted me as " ooh im gonna help this poor black child to get a job ...im doing her a favor to get her off the street" type shit. ( ha i was raised in dunwoody no where near tha hood) but im still poor and black.

from day one i could tell something was different about this lady. she not only contradicted herself about church and sex but with racism as well. she talked bad about white pple on how they treated blk pple. but everyday i worked with her a racist remark would come up. i worked in her house as well cause her shop was down stairs. to see how this lady lived like she was an all american white women actin like she had the life that everyone wants to live the way she does. when i went to lunch with her and her family there weren constant remarks made from the bible he interpreted and then just plain out racist. i needed the job at the time so i stayed with it for months and didnt say a word because i knew i would loose my job if i had said something to oppose them. till one day at lunch her brother insulted my intelligence and insulted me as a person. no one said a word in my defense they only laughed it off. i couldnt take it anymore. i had to speak to friends and family because i needed the job at the time and i couldnt quite. so i got convinced to stay.

mind you i have never fauxed in my life but i was awsome in everything she asked me to do. and the first day i worked was in a $900,000+ home and they adored my work in one room and asked my boss to do it as i had done it. not one mistake out of the months that i had been workin there. till one day i got the wrong paint because she didnt look to see what i brought her. and i told her to look. she was pissed and said that she should let me go cuz her family said i was bringing her too many problems but she wanted to keep me as if like i said ( gettin me off the streets) ~pity is what she was holding on to~ and then 2 weeks later she was playing the roll like "i will call you when we get new clients". i became on call. and the other assistant ( white) made mistakes every week atleast 2wice a week ...something about getting lost to go to work sites or not doing what she was asked.

i quite because i told her my opinion about the paint ( which she asked) and she took everything to heart and wouldnt listen to me like i was a child. so i told her i im done with workng with her.

its was terrible i stayed for so long. when i ran errands with her i couldnt go into certain places with her because her clients or the pple she worked with didnt agree for me to come in because im black. when we worked at other clients houses they would always speak to the other assistant and ask her question which she didnt know. and if answered them they woulddnt even look at me or respond to me. they only fixed their eyes on the other girl. everyday i was never acknowledged for my work or as a person and i was constantly reminded that i am black person.

no it hasnt stoped me from being me or dong what i want but it puts hold to me getting where i need to go and slowing my accomplishments because of racist pple.

and its not just white pple but asian's as well as some other ethnice pple. like i said earlier america betrays us as stupid, violent, loud, gang bangers, lazy, dirty and contaminating people. and just about everything we do and say is worthless or made out of mockery. if it deals with work, music, arts, sport, politics, life as a whole, or anything.

BTEC
08-29-2006, 01:40 PM
WELL I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WHERE UR COMING FROM BC IVE HAD MY EXPERIENCES WITH RACIST PPL IN MY DAYS. MORE IN FLORIDA THAN IN GA BUT I WAS YOUNGER SO I GUESS PPL KINDA TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THE FACT THAT I WAS SMALLER AND JUST A KID. BUT YEAH, IM GONNA KEEP QUIET FOR A LITTLE WHILE AND GET SOME WRK DONE BUT ILL GIVE U A SAMPLE OF WHAT IM GONNA TALK ABOUT.

IM RACIST AGAINST EVERYBODY. NO JOKE. ALOT OF BLACK PPL GIVE U A REASON TO DISLIKE THEM BC OF THE WAY THEY ACT (MY NEIGHBOR HOOD IS A GOOD EXAMPLE). ALOT WHITE PPL TRY TO TREAT EVERYBODY LIKE THEY ARE UNDER THEM TO AN EXTENT. FOREIGNERS COME OVER HERE AND DOG "AMERICANS" OUT CALLING US LAZY AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND TO EXTENT I CANT BLAME THEM. ALSO SOME FOREIGNERS COME OVER WITH A WE ARE GONNA TAKE OVER OR WE ARE NOT GONNA TAKE NO SHIT FROM AMERICAN ATTITUDES.

ILL BE BACK TO SAY MORE LATER

Tasuki_Civic
08-29-2006, 02:03 PM
WELL I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WHERE UR COMING FROM BC IVE HAD MY EXPERIENCES WITH RACIST PPL IN MY DAYS. MORE IN FLORIDA THAN IN GA BUT I WAS YOUNGER SO I GUESS PPL KINDA TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THE FACT THAT I WAS SMALLER AND JUST A KID. BUT YEAH, IM GONNA KEEP QUIET FOR A LITTLE WHILE AND GET SOME WRK DONE BUT ILL GIVE U A SAMPLE OF WHAT IM GONNA TALK ABOUT.

IM RACIST AGAINST EVERYBODY. NO JOKE. ALOT OF BLACK PPL GIVE U A REASON TO DISLIKE THEM BC OF THE WAY THEY ACT (MY NEIGHBOR HOOD IS A GOOD EXAMPLE). ALOT WHITE PPL TRY TO TREAT EVERYBODY LIKE THEY ARE UNDER THEM TO AN EXTENT. FOREIGNERS COME OVER HERE AND DOG "AMERICANS" OUT CALLING US LAZY AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND TO EXTENT I CANT BLAME THEM. ALSO SOME FOREIGNERS COME OVER WITH A WE ARE GONNA TAKE OVER OR WE ARE NOT GONNA TAKE NO SHIT FROM AMERICAN ATTITUDES.

ILL BE BACK TO SAY MORE LATER


agreed with it so far......i hate when blk pple support the idea of how pple in america make us look like. im racist againt everyone as well. no one wants things how they should. they all want to play along like its "simon says" no matter what race.

like the word "Nigga" why in the world is nigga a fade word. its pubilcly excepted ( mockery) its sad. nigger is a term for a ignorant perons and can be used to describe any race but its a extremely offensive name for a Black person. so why use it in everday life if your not blk and not have a reason for saying it if you are blk. i cant lie i used to abuse the word when i was younger but now i try my best use it to actually describe a person who is stupid no matter what race. what put me to that is the fact that america is allowing it to be a fade like there is no meaning to this word. its like shadowing everything else inthis world that has to do with racism. its all still there its jsut covered up.

and i think its sad to see pple say that "oooh its 2006 racsim isnt as bad as it was 40 years ago and that was along time ago"

first off 40 years is not a long as time ago. lol thats my parents generation. thats not far what so ever. not fro the development for the world or pple. maybe for a person age. second just because pple like hip hop or rap and there are bi-racial couples and you see one blk women in office standing next to the president doesnt mean that racsim is not in full affect.

BTEC
08-29-2006, 02:09 PM
AN EXAMPLE OF Y I DNT LIKE SOME BLACK PPL USING MY NEIGHBOR HOOD AS AN EXAMPLE BC IM PRETTY PISSED AT IT RIGHT NOW. TEENAGE BOYS SWEAR THEY ARE THE HARDEST PPL ALIVE. THEY STOLE THIS LITTLE BOYS BASEKTBALL AND HIS DAD CAME TO GET IT AND THEY ALL WAS IN THE DAD FACE LIKE WE GONNA DO THIS AND THAT TO YOU CURSING AT THE LIL BOYS DAD AND SHIT. NOW SHOULD TE DAD GO HOME AND GET HIS GUN AND SHOOT EVERYBODY OR LET THEM KEEP THE BALL BC THOSE WERE THE 2 CHOICES. I DNT KNOW IF HE KNEW THEM OR NOT BUT STILL.

THEY ARE WRKING ON MY NERVES BUT IM TRYING TO STAY COOL BC....ITS BETTER THAT I KEEP CONTROL OF MY TEMPER.


ON THE OTHER HAND I DNT LIKE THE UNCLE TOM MUTHAFUCKAS. QUIT TO RAT SOMEBODY OUT TO MAKE THEMSELVES LOOK BETTER. EVEN IF THEYVE DONE IT B4 AND BENEFITED NONE FROM IT THEY STILL DO IT. LET PPL WALK ALL OVER THEM AND TALK TO THEM NE KINDA WAY AND FOR WHAT? NOTHING. I WORKED WITH A FEW DUDES LIKE THIS. THIS OLDER MAN WAS GONNA SUE MCDONALDS AND HE HAD A LAWYER TELLING HIM HE WOULD WIN BC OF WHAT HAPPEN. 1 OF OUR CUSTOMERS AT THE SHOP I WRKD AT OWNED THAT SAME MCDONALDS THE INCIDENT WENT DWN AT SO OUR STORE MNGR TOLD HIM TO JUST LET IT GO BC IT WAS A CUSTOMER OF OUR AND DUDE JUST SAID HES LUCKY AND ILL GET MINE. THE MNGR USED TO NOT PAY HIM AND TELL HIM TO GET OUT OF HIS FACE AND ALL KINDA CRAP.

Tasuki_Civic
08-29-2006, 02:19 PM
i added something to last respons btec read it

BTEC
08-29-2006, 02:29 PM
i added something to last respons btec read it
YEAH THAT NIGGA SHIT WAS A THING I HAD TO GET OUT OF TOO. I HAD TO WRK AT USING IT BC IT DIDNT FEEL RIGHT SAYING IT AND THEN I HAD TO TRAIN MYSELF TO STOP SAYING IT AFTER I GOT OLDER BC I GREW A BRAIN. I DNT GET MAD FOR PPL SAYING IT BUT IF UR GONNA BE IGNORANT AND HAVE A DNT CARE ATTITUDE ABOUT STUFF LIEK THAT, I THINK THERE IS A TIME AND PLACE FOR IT. IT PUTS A BAD STEREOTYPE ON ALL BLACK PPL WHEN U JUST HAVE A COUPLE PPL FREELY WALKING AROUND SAYING IT. IT ALSO MAKE OTHERS THINK ITS OK TO SAY IT UNTIL VIOLET IS BROUGHT INTO PLAY BC THE ONE WHO INTIALLY STARTED SAYING IT GOT OFFENDED WHEN SOMEBODY OF DIFFERENT COLR CALLED THEM THAT. ITS STOOPID. U GOTTA BE THE RIGHT COLOR TO CALL ME THAT.

Tasuki_Civic
08-29-2006, 02:32 PM
YEAH THAT NIGGA SHIT WAS A THING I HAD TO GET OUT OF TOO. I HAD TO WRK AT USING IT BC IT DIDNT FEEL RIGHT SAYING IT AND THEN I HAD TO TRAIN MYSELF TO STOP SAYING IT AFTER I GOT OLDER BC I GREW A BRAIN. I DNT GET MAD FOR PPL SAYING IT BUT IF UR GONNA BE IGNORANT AND HAVE A DNT CARE ATTITUDE ABOUT STUFF LIEK THAT, I THINK THERE IS A TIME AND PLACE FOR IT. IT PUTS A BAD STEREOTYPE ON ALL BLACK PPL WHEN U JUST HAVE A COUPLE PPL FREELY WALKING AROUND SAYING IT. IT ALSO MAKE OTHERS THINK ITS OK TO SAY IT UNTIL VIOLET IS BROUGHT INTO PLAY BC THE ONE WHO INTIALLY STARTED SAYING IT GOT OFFENDED WHEN SOMEBODY OF DIFFERENT COLR CALLED THEM THAT. ITS STOOPID. U GOTTA BE THE RIGHT COLOR TO CALL ME THAT.


yea but even then you better be careful on how you use it. its not wise to call jsut anyone that.



wierd thing i was wondering if anyone would respond but no one has

BTEC
08-29-2006, 02:36 PM
WANNA HEAR SOMETHING WIERD. I DNT LIKE WATERMEON BC OF THAT STEROE TYPICAL SHIT. CHICKEN IS GOOD BUT ID PREFER CHICKEN STRIP INSTEAD OF LEGS, THIGHS AND BREAST (THE PIECES WITH BONES). I EVEN HESITATE WHEN PPL WANT TO EAT WINGS. I PREFER THE BONELESS SHIT BUT FOR REAL THE WATERMELON IS SUCH A TOUCHY SITUATION WITH ME IT REDICULOUS. IF U ARE EVER AROUND ME AND SOMEBODY STARTS TALKING BOUT EVEN WATERMELON IM READY TO GO OFF THE DEEP END BC WHITE PPL ARE SO QUICK TO USE THAT OR CHICKEN AS A WAY OR CALLING U A NIGGER THESE DAY. WHITE PPL CALLING ME BOY, DNT DO IT. KNOW UR PLACE, DNT CROOS THE LINE AND ILL TREAT U LIKE MY BROTHER OR SISTER.

AND ALL YOU MIXED AND FOREIGN MOTHER FUCKER, DNT THINK YAWL ARE COOLER BC I DNT LIEK YAWL EITHER. YAWL GET THIS ATTITUDE THE UR NOT WHITE OR NOT ALL WHITE SO U CAN CALL ME NIGGA AND ITS COOL. ILL SWELL YO SHIT UP JUST LIKE ILL SWELL SOMEBODY WHO RIDES PAST MY AND THROWS A NOOSE OUT THE WINDOW AND SCREAM "NIGGER!!" AT ME.

BTEC
08-29-2006, 02:37 PM
yea but even then you better be careful on how you use it. its not wise to call jsut anyone that.



wierd thing i was wondering if anyone would respond but no one has
I WASNT REALLY SAYING THAT HOW I FELT ABOUT THAT BUT THATS HOW PPL TREAT IT "IF U AINT THE RIGHT COLOR U CANT DO OR SAY THIS OR THAT."

I NOTICED NOBODY HAS RESPONDED EITHER. :dunno:

Tasuki_Civic
08-29-2006, 02:39 PM
oh, welll............


yea maybe pple dont care to read...there haven viewers none responding.

BTEC
08-29-2006, 02:42 PM
oh, welll............


yea maybe pple dont care to read...there haven viewers none responding.
MOST PPL SEE ALL THE TYPING U DID AND SAY "FUC ALLA DAT SHIT". LOL!!


IM IMPRESS, VERY GOOD SUBJECT D.

IT MIGHT BE GOOD THAT PPL DNT RESPOND BC THE TRUTH COMES OUT AND THEN PPL GET ON REALLY BAD TERM BC OF THIS TYPE OF STUFF.

Tasuki_Civic
08-29-2006, 03:01 PM
MOST PPL SEE ALL THE TYPING U DID AND SAY "FUC ALLA DAT SHIT". LOL!!


IM IMPRESS, VERY GOOD SUBJECT D.

IT MIGHT BE GOOD THAT PPL DNT RESPOND BC THE TRUTH COMES OUT AND THEN PPL GET ON REALLY BAD TERM BC OF THIS TYPE OF STUFF.

you know that old saying " IF YOU DONT WANT A NIGGA TO KNOW...PUT IT IN A BOOK"


thanx ...i think your right. but thats the point of the conversation an why i wrote it.

BTEC
08-29-2006, 03:35 PM
you know that old saying " IF YOU DONT WANT A NIGGA TO KNOW...PUT IT IN A BOOK"thanx ...i think your right. but thats the point of the conversation an why i wrote it.
VERY GOOD. AND THAT IS THE REASON I REALLY TRY TO READ MORE. I HEARD THAT OF ONE OF THE LOX SONG VERSE BY JADAKISS AND IT KINDA HURT BC I DNT LIEK TO READ NE THING EXCEPT CAR STUFF AND FREAKY STUFF. I THINK I HAVE A.D.D BUT I WAS NEVER DIAGNOSED WITH IT SO U CANT PROVE IT. LOL!!!

Tasuki_Civic
08-29-2006, 11:39 PM
50 view and no responses i guess this issue is not important or just something to talk about.

Spyder
08-29-2006, 11:59 PM
MOST PPL SEE ALL THE TYPING U DID AND SAY "FUC ALLA DAT SHIT". LOL!!


IM IMPRESS, VERY GOOD SUBJECT D.

IT MIGHT BE GOOD THAT PPL DNT RESPOND BC THE TRUTH COMES OUT AND THEN PPL GET ON REALLY BAD TERM BC OF THIS TYPE OF STUFF.

Yep that was my reasoning, but its late and threads have slowed down a lot...

I will need to take some time and respond to this later but know atleast one, make that 2 people have read it ;)

TIGERJC
08-30-2006, 01:13 AM
agreed with it so far......i hate when blk pple support the idea of how pple in america make us look like. im racist againt everyone as well. no one wants things how they should. they all want to play along like its "simon says" no matter what race.

like the word "Nigga" why in the world is nigga a fade word. its pubilcly excepted ( mockery) its sad. nigger is a term for a ignorant perons and can be used to describe any race but its a extremely offensive name for a Black person. so why use it in everday life if your not blk and not have a reason for saying it if you are blk. i cant lie i used to abuse the word when i was younger but now i try my best use it to actually describe a person who is stupid no matter what race. what put me to that is the fact that america is allowing it to be a fade like there is no meaning to this word. its like shadowing everything else inthis world that has to do with racism. its all still there its jsut covered up.

and i think its sad to see pple say that "oooh its 2006 racsim isnt as bad as it was 40 years ago and that was along time ago"

first off 40 years is not a long as time ago. lol thats my parents generation. thats not far what so ever. not fro the development for the world or pple. maybe for a person age. second just because pple like hip hop or rap and there are bi-racial couples and you see one blk women in office standing next to the president doesnt mean that racsim is not in full affect.
GOD DAMN GIRL YOU ARE SO RIGHT :goodjob:

hate to say it, but we (blacks) are going backwards instead of forward. I see ignorant blk ppl where every I go now, to me its hard to find a blk person with a brain now. I just dont understand how we as ppl can not come together on anything except who is the best rapper. I hate whenever I hear "wt up my nigga", each time I hear it I DIE A LITTLE BIT IN SIDE. Its sad that a lot of blk ppl think that rap is a way of life, then just seeing rap as just entertainment.

Its sad that racism is still very much alive in this country, but I feel we as ppl are holding ourselves back.

If I ever use the word nigga and I rarely do, I am referring to a ignorant NIGGER. So if I ever say "wt up my nigga to you", you now know what I mean.

Tasuki_Civic
08-30-2006, 04:12 AM
GOD DAMN GIRL YOU ARE SO RIGHT :goodjob:

hate to say it, but we (blacks) are going backwards instead of forward. I see ignorant blk ppl where every I go now, to me its hard to find a blk person with a brain now. I just dont understand how we as ppl can not come together on anything except who is the best rapper. I hate whenever I hear "wt up my nigga", each time I hear it I DIE A LITTLE BIT IN SIDE. Its sad that a lot of blk ppl think that rap is a way of life, then just seeing rap as just entertainment.

Its sad that racism is still very much alive in this country, but I feel we as ppl are holding ourselves back.

If I ever use the word nigga and I rarely do, I am referring to a ignorant NIGGER. So if I ever say "wt up my nigga to you", you now know what I mean.

i aint tryin to be smart so understand that. but if you turn around ( doesnt matter what race ) and they are ignorant you need to change your enviornment. the blk ppl ei chill with have their own companies and are thriving for something. it doesnt matter what genre it is. i think its totaly fine if my son would want to be a rapper. alot of these rappers today has something to fall back onto if they didnt make it. as well as models and producers. its ok to have a dream to be a rapper cause your money is damn near endless if you know the right pple.



I hate whenever I hear "wt up my nigga", each time I hear it I DIE A LITTLE BIT IN SIDE. Its sad
i feel this way no matter who says it. its a shame this phrase is being misused like the words gangsta, pimp, thug, hood and other things that supposedly to describe blk pple in a negative way.




hate to say it, but we (blacks) are going backwards instead of forward.

nah nah speak for yourself. like i said earlier of reasons why it doesnt seem like we arent going forward. there are those who play and dont give a shit ( and when it comes to black pple the worst sticks out the most ALWAYS) but there are plenty who do and actully make it to where we are comfortable but we always have to stay on our toes unless you came out on top meaning a billionaire.




i do understand using the word in a sense of expression but its not something to abuse or be used by others who dont understand. kinda like 2 friends talking about something personal and some random person comes by and listens and laughs and jokes with them and that random person has no idea what the 2 friends are talkin about.

BTEC
08-30-2006, 09:21 AM
GOD DAMN GIRL YOU ARE SO RIGHT :goodjob:

hate to say it, but we (blacks) are going backwards instead of forward. I see ignorant blk ppl where every I go now, to me its hard to find a blk person with a brain now. I just dont understand how we as ppl can not come together on anything except who is the best rapper. I hate whenever I hear "wt up my nigga", each time I hear it I DIE A LITTLE BIT IN SIDE. Its sad that a lot of blk ppl think that rap is a way of life, then just seeing rap as just entertainment.

Its sad that racism is still very much alive in this country, but I feel we as ppl are holding ourselves back.

If I ever use the word nigga and I rarely do, I am referring to a ignorant NIGGER. So if I ever say "wt up my nigga to you", you now know what I mean.
BLACK PPL ARE TO AN EXTENT GOING BACKWARDS. LIKE EVERY GENERATION THAT HAS GRADUATED AFTER ME HAS GOTTEN WORSE. THEY CARE LESS ABOUT HOW THEY LOOK, TALK, OR HOW THEY SHOULD PRESENT THEMSELVES IN THE PUBLIC EYE. I MEAN THE SHIT WITH WEARING UR SHIRT HALF ON/OFF I DNT GET. AND I STILL HAVE YET TO UNDERSTAND Y PPL WEAR THEIR PANTS/SHORTS UNDER THEIR ASS. I MEAN THAT CAME OUT WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL AND I STILL DNT GET IT. LOL!!! BUT NOW, ITS COOL TO WEAR UR PANTS/SHORT LIKE THAT WITHOUT A SHIRT COVERING UR ASS. GOT IT. :goodjob:

AS FAR AS RACISM GOES, IVE SEEN IT JUST OUT IN PLAIN SIGHT AND THEN U GET THE SHIT THAT REALLY PISSES U OFF THAT SOMEONE IN THE CORPORATE SCENCE DOES BY TRYING TO USING BIGGER WRDS THAT THEY DNT THINK U UNDERSTAND AND CALLING U STOOD WHILE SMILING BUT TRY MAKE IT SOUND LIKE A JOKE AND SMILING AT U AT THE SAME TIME. U MIGHT BE LIKE YEAH WHATEVER ILL JUST SMILE BACK BUT THEN LATER IT RUNS THROUGH UR HEAD AGAIN. BY THAT TIME U REALIZE THAT U ARE AN IDIOT. LOL!!! U WANT TO BREAK SOMETHING BC UR SO SLOW AND U GOT PLAYED FOR AN IDIOT. I KNOW BC IVE BEEN THERE SEVERAL TIMES. AINT NO SHAME IN ADMITTING IT. BUT WHAT I CAN TELL U IS I LEARNED FROM IT.

IVE SAID MY PIECE ABOUT SAYING NIGGA JUST BC. IM GONNA BRING UP ANOTHER GOOD POINT IN ANOTHER POST. ABOUT THE SITTING IN THE BACK OF THE BUS. NOT BEING ALOUD IN CERTAIN PLACES BC OF THE WAY U CARRY URSELF/TALK. THE TALK THING IS A BIG ONE. BUT ILL POST AGAIN LATER

Tasuki_Civic
08-30-2006, 02:48 PM
BLACK PPL ARE TO AN EXTENT GOING BACKWARDS. LIKE EVERY GENERATION THAT HAS GRADUATED AFTER ME HAS GOTTEN WORSE. THEY CARE LESS ABOUT HOW THEY LOOK, TALK, OR HOW THEY SHOULD PRESENT THEMSELVES IN THE PUBLIC EYE. I MEAN THE SHIT WITH WEARING UR SHIRT HALF ON/OFF I DNT GET. AND I STILL HAVE YET TO UNDERSTAND Y PPL WEAR THEIR PANTS/SHORTS UNDER THEIR ASS. I MEAN THAT CAME OUT WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL AND I STILL DNT GET IT. LOL!!! BUT NOW, ITS COOL TO WEAR UR PANTS/SHORT LIKE THAT WITHOUT A SHIRT COVERING UR ASS. GOT IT. :goodjob: lol i never understood that either..... :no:


AS FAR AS RACISM GOES, IVE SEEN IT JUST OUT IN PLAIN SIGHT AND THEN U GET THE SHIT THAT REALLY PISSES U OFF THAT SOMEONE IN THE CORPORATE SCENCE DOES BY TRYING TO USING BIGGER WRDS THAT THEY DNT THINK U UNDERSTAND AND CALLING U STOOD WHILE SMILING BUT TRY MAKE IT SOUND LIKE A JOKE AND SMILING AT U AT THE SAME TIME. U MIGHT BE LIKE YEAH WHATEVER ILL JUST SMILE BACK BUT THEN LATER IT RUNS THROUGH UR HEAD AGAIN. BY THAT TIME U REALIZE THAT U ARE AN IDIOT. LOL!!! U WANT TO BREAK SOMETHING BC UR SO SLOW AND U GOT PLAYED FOR AN IDIOT. I KNOW BC IVE BEEN THERE SEVERAL TIMES. AINT NO SHAME IN ADMITTING IT. BUT WHAT I CAN TELL U IS I LEARNED FROM IT. nah ive met those kind of people before but i always catch that and and make a smarts ass remark back to them. but its not often i meet those kind of people. the ones i come across ...here in Dunwoody ......they tell you flat out they hate you because your black or any other race in many different ways but you gett the point. or the show you by doing certain things like "following you" and asking certain questions like your jsut plain stupid or describing stupid shit liike....the word synopsis. and tthey will use it in a sentence and the say right afterwards...do you know what that means? and then tell the you the definition of it. like yur 2 years old.

i have had a lady call me a nigga loud as hell and 8 memebers of her family looked at me in anger like they wanted to fight me . and they al walked past me really slow to see i if i would say something. lol i couldnt cuz the father was the last man to past me and he was huge. i was like 16 then. i have to admit that was some scray shit that day. all my tales happen right in dunwoody.

Tasuki_Civic
08-30-2006, 02:54 PM
i thought there would more pple to add their opinions and thoughts about how Black America is treated and such. alot pple have read this but no responses. i thought this would have been a great thread to see what pple think. lol maybe not. seems like they rather talk about Uncle done Vito from Viva La Bam or weed.

oh 'well its ok. i should have know. its a touchy subject. to some

BTEC
08-30-2006, 03:05 PM
i have had a lady call me a nigga loud as hell and 8 memebers of her family looked at me in anger like they wanted to fight me . and they al walked past me really slow to see i if i would say something. lol i couldnt cuz the father was the last man to past me and he was huge. i was like 16 then. i have to admit that was some scray shit that day. all my tales happen right in dunwoody.
IVE SAID MY PRAYER TO CATCH UP WITH SOME RACIST MOTHERFUCKERS LIKE THAT BUT IVE ONLY EXPERIENCED SHIT LIKE THAT IN DRIVE BYES. LIKE IN FLORIDA WHEN I USED TO SKATEBOARD, DUDES USED TO RIDE BY SCREAMIN FUCK U NIGGER AND SHIT. I USED TO THROW GRAPEFRUITS AT THEIR CARS AND SHIT BUT THAT WASNT NO FUN. I ALMOST RAN THIS ONE DUDE DWN ON HIS BIKE FOR TRYING THAT SHIT. I SAID FUCK THE SKATEBOARD I WAS RIGHT ON HIM BUT I GOT TIRED AND LAUGHING SO HE GO LUCKY. HE WAS ALL SCREAMING ON THE BIKE AND SHIT BC HE THOUGHT HE WAS GONNA EASILY GET AWAY AND WHEN I COULD ALMOST GRAB HIM HE WAS SQUEALING AND STHIT LIKE OH NO.

BUT YEAH NOBODY DNT FUC WITH ME RIGHT NOW AND EVEN IF THEY DO TRY TO PULL THE UR STOOPID SHIT I ALWAYS WIN. THEY USUALLY GET MAD A WALK OFF AND SHIT BUT I DNT GIVE A RATS ASS. TRY AGAIN TOMORROW ASSHOLE. :2up:

Tasuki_Civic
08-30-2006, 11:22 PM
IVE SAID MY PRAYER TO CATCH UP WITH SOME RACIST MOTHERFUCKERS LIKE THAT BUT IVE ONLY EXPERIENCED SHIT LIKE THAT IN DRIVE BYES. LIKE IN FLORIDA WHEN I USED TO SKATEBOARD, DUDES USED TO RIDE BY SCREAMIN FUCK U NIGGER AND SHIT. I USED TO THROW GRAPEFRUITS AT THEIR CARS AND SHIT BUT THAT WASNT NO FUN. I ALMOST RAN THIS ONE DUDE DWN ON HIS BIKE FOR TRYING THAT SHIT. I SAID FUCK THE SKATEBOARD I WAS RIGHT ON HIM BUT I GOT TIRED AND LAUGHING SO HE GO LUCKY. HE WAS ALL SCREAMING ON THE BIKE AND SHIT BC HE THOUGHT HE WAS GONNA EASILY GET AWAY AND WHEN I COULD ALMOST GRAB HIM HE WAS SQUEALING AND STHIT LIKE OH NO.

BUT YEAH NOBODY DNT FUC WITH ME RIGHT NOW AND EVEN IF THEY DO TRY TO PULL THE UR STOOPID SHIT I ALWAYS WIN. THEY USUALLY GET MAD A WALK OFF AND SHIT BUT I DNT GIVE A RATS ASS. TRY AGAIN TOMORROW ASSHOLE. :2up:


my run-in has mostly been with women. some of the men are unusal cause i they tend to flirt with me. but thats a whole nother subject and for some reason it wont be worth bringing up cuz pple on here are not talkin except for 3.

ahmonrah
08-31-2006, 12:13 AM
dammit! i missed this debate!! i have so much on this subject it's rediculous.

Tasuki_Civic
08-31-2006, 01:10 AM
dammit! i missed this debate!! i have so much on this subject it's rediculous.


speak your mind its not tooo late

Tasuki_Civic
08-31-2006, 05:19 AM
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hemi
08-31-2006, 10:24 AM
alright I'll chime in on several points....:2cents:

"nigga" is not okay for anyone to say. The word has different meanings to different people, but it should not be okay for a black guy to use it in a positive way, but not ok for a white guy to use it in a positive way.

Wow, I wish I could have caught this thread earlier, I have a lot to add as well.
I think that a lot of the "setbacks and problems" that the black culture are experiencing are self induced. The baggy clothes, thuggin, disrepectful, and other negative traits are popular. It's cool to flex your pimp hand, and if you listen to rap, your not cool if your not selling weed, drinking 40s, disrespecting EVERYONE you see, lying cheating stealing etc... This whole new generation prides themselves on traits that were shamed years ago. That is holding that generation to certain stereotypes..
The old white ladies in Dunwoody are that way from a lack of exposure. They grew up one way, and they stay in their tight little circles, and the behavior is okay in those circles. Not unlike a group of teenage thugs living on Hollywood rd have a level of acceptable behavior, that would not be acceptable on Old Alabama rd.
I'd also like to address the fact that it's cool to portray a lack of intelligence. Typing in awful grammar is not cool. Mumbling and saying unowhatimsayin after every sentence is not cool. Lazyness is not cool. Identifying a successful black man as an Uncle Tom is not cool...
Reverse racism is not cool. The high school that I went to was 99.5% black, and I am white. I got told quite often that a black person could not be racist in America. BS! I went through a ton of issues as a white boy growing up on the wrong side of Decatur. From job issues, to the lunchroom, to hey white boy you can't walk on this side of the street... At the time I only could resort to anger, and got whooped more than once. But as I get older I have pulled some sort of value from most of these experiences. I do understand that you CANNOT pigeonhold anyone to any group. I give everyone that I encounter the same respect until they prove that they do not deserve it.

PS... I hate discussing race issues because my views are usually not commonplace.

Big Baller
08-31-2006, 10:51 AM
WANNA HEAR SOMETHING WIERD. I DNT LIKE WATERMEON BC OF THAT STEROE TYPICAL SHIT. CHICKEN IS GOOD BUT ID PREFER CHICKEN STRIP INSTEAD OF LEGS, THIGHS AND BREAST (THE PIECES WITH BONES). I EVEN HESITATE WHEN PPL WANT TO EAT WINGS. I PREFER THE BONELESS SHIT BUT FOR REAL THE WATERMELON IS SUCH A TOUCHY SITUATION WITH ME IT REDICULOUS. IF U ARE EVER AROUND ME AND SOMEBODY STARTS TALKING BOUT EVEN WATERMELON IM READY TO GO OFF THE DEEP END BC WHITE PPL ARE SO QUICK TO USE THAT OR CHICKEN AS A WAY OR CALLING U A NIGGER THESE DAY. WHITE PPL CALLING ME BOY, DNT DO IT. KNOW UR PLACE, DNT CROOS THE LINE AND ILL TREAT U LIKE MY BROTHER OR SISTER.

AND ALL YOU MIXED AND FOREIGN MOTHER FUCKER, DNT THINK YAWL ARE COOLER BC I DNT LIEK YAWL EITHER. YAWL GET THIS ATTITUDE THE UR NOT WHITE OR NOT ALL WHITE SO U CAN CALL ME NIGGA AND ITS COOL. ILL SWELL YO SHIT UP JUST LIKE ILL SWELL SOMEBODY WHO RIDES PAST MY AND THROWS A NOOSE OUT THE WINDOW AND SCREAM "NIGGER!!" AT ME.

That's it fool, its on next time I see you.

I wee racism everyday and honestly I see it more from Black and Hispanic people than I do from White people.

For example twice last week I had black family ask for repairs to be done on there homes but they didn't want me to send the Hispanic paint crew. One of the Hispanic families didn't want my black drywall guy in there house.

You know what I told them, if they wanted it fixed then they would let whoever I sent in, if they don't want it fixed then that's fine too.

OH,

FUCK Stereotypes, that shits funny. Don't let that shit bother you. Watermelon is good, Fried Chicken is good, If I was black I sure as fuck wouldn't let it stop me from eating.

Matt

BluesClues
08-31-2006, 11:05 AM
YEAH THAT NIGGA SHIT WAS A THING I HAD TO GET OUT OF TOO. I HAD TO WRK AT USING IT BC IT DIDNT FEEL RIGHT SAYING IT AND THEN I HAD TO TRAIN MYSELF TO STOP SAYING IT AFTER I GOT OLDER BC I GREW A BRAIN. I DNT GET MAD FOR PPL SAYING IT BUT IF UR GONNA BE IGNORANT AND HAVE A DNT CARE ATTITUDE ABOUT STUFF LIEK THAT, I THINK THERE IS A TIME AND PLACE FOR IT. IT PUTS A BAD STEREOTYPE ON ALL BLACK PPL WHEN U JUST HAVE A COUPLE PPL FREELY WALKING AROUND SAYING IT. IT ALSO MAKE OTHERS THINK ITS OK TO SAY IT UNTIL VIOLET IS BROUGHT INTO PLAY BC THE ONE WHO INTIALLY STARTED SAYING IT GOT OFFENDED WHEN SOMEBODY OF DIFFERENT COLR CALLED THEM THAT. ITS STOOPID. U GOTTA BE THE RIGHT COLOR TO CALL ME THAT.
Ok I am trying to figure out if you are just posting this to be posting or if you truely mean it because how many times do we say nigga or nigwa? I don't see anything wrong with nigga. Yeah yeah yeah it has a hidden message whatever! Personally I try not to get myself all mad and worked up over someone else's ignorance. Racism is wrong and at times it makes me mad but overall I don't really care. There are not as many racist people as there used to be so we don't usally experience it on a day to day basis at least I don't. I had to deal with it when I dated my ex because his family is racist against blacks but they is on them. They want to live their lives hating someone then fine. It's not hurting me. I'm not gonna let some racist bastard affect how I live my life and stop me from saying certain things because it has a background. Nigga and nigger is different. Nigga can be said by anybody nigger can be said about any ignorant person. That's what it means and that is how it should be used.

BluesClues
08-31-2006, 11:09 AM
WANNA HEAR SOMETHING WIERD. I DNT LIKE WATERMEON BC OF THAT STEROE TYPICAL SHIT. CHICKEN IS GOOD BUT ID PREFER CHICKEN STRIP INSTEAD OF LEGS, THIGHS AND BREAST (THE PIECES WITH BONES). I EVEN HESITATE WHEN PPL WANT TO EAT WINGS. I PREFER THE BONELESS SHIT BUT FOR REAL THE WATERMELON IS SUCH A TOUCHY SITUATION WITH ME IT REDICULOUS. IF U ARE EVER AROUND ME AND SOMEBODY STARTS TALKING BOUT EVEN WATERMELON IM READY TO GO OFF THE DEEP END BC WHITE PPL ARE SO QUICK TO USE THAT OR CHICKEN AS A WAY OR CALLING U A NIGGER THESE DAY. WHITE PPL CALLING ME BOY, DNT DO IT. KNOW UR PLACE, DNT CROOS THE LINE AND ILL TREAT U LIKE MY BROTHER OR SISTER.

AND ALL YOU MIXED AND FOREIGN MOTHER FUCKER, DNT THINK YAWL ARE COOLER BC I DNT LIEK YAWL EITHER. YAWL GET THIS ATTITUDE THE UR NOT WHITE OR NOT ALL WHITE SO U CAN CALL ME NIGGA AND ITS COOL. ILL SWELL YO SHIT UP JUST LIKE ILL SWELL SOMEBODY WHO RIDES PAST MY AND THROWS A NOOSE OUT THE WINDOW AND SCREAM "NIGGER!!" AT ME.
Not true! What about Publix wings?
I'm not all white or all black so what's my case?

BluesClues
08-31-2006, 11:29 AM
alright I'll chime in on several points....:2cents:

"nigga" is not okay for anyone to say. The word has different meanings to different people, but it should not be okay for a black guy to use it in a positive way, but not ok for a white guy to use it in a positive way.

Wow, I wish I could have caught this thread earlier, I have a lot to add as well.
I think that a lot of the "setbacks and problems" that the black culture are experiencing are self induced. The baggy clothes, thuggin, disrepectful, and other negative traits are popular. It's cool to flex your pimp hand, and if you listen to rap, your not cool if your not selling weed, drinking 40s, disrespecting EVERYONE you see, lying cheating stealing etc... This whole new generation prides themselves on traits that were shamed years ago. That is holding that generation to certain stereotypes..
The old white ladies in Dunwoody are that way from a lack of exposure. They grew up one way, and they stay in their tight little circles, and the behavior is okay in those circles. Not unlike a group of teenage thugs living on Hollywood rd have a level of acceptable behavior, that would not be acceptable on Old Alabama rd.
I'd also like to address the fact that it's cool to portray a lack of intelligence. Typing in awful grammar is not cool. Mumbling and saying unowhatimsayin after every sentence is not cool. Lazyness is not cool. Identifying a successful black man as an Uncle Tom is not cool...
Reverse racism is not cool. The high school that I went to was 99.5% black, and I am white. I got told quite often that a black person could not be racist in America. BS! I went through a ton of issues as a white boy growing up on the wrong side of Decatur. From job issues, to the lunchroom, to hey white boy you can't walk on this side of the street... At the time I only could resort to anger, and got whooped more than once. But as I get older I have pulled some sort of value from most of these experiences. I do understand that you CANNOT pigeonhold anyone to any group. I give everyone that I encounter the same respect until they prove that they do not deserve it.

PS... I hate discussing race issues because my views are usually not commonplace.
Out of everyone on this issue so far I can relate to you more. The rap today makes me mad. I have said on several occassions that it is not what it used to be. Now anybody can be a rapper. Just talk about some shit you don't have, talk about weed, call some girl a hoe or bitch, and say your a pimp. It pisses me off to an extent. I personally listen because I like the beats, but the words are meaniless and degrading. When I moved down here from Jersey I was worried about the white people and the racism. The South has proven itself racist. I never experienced it up North so it maybe there but I don't know. I feel the reason the South and Southern rap is deemed so "niggerish" is because of the way people talk. They talk as if they have no education. I have been picked on my entire life for "acting like a white girl" or "wanting to be white" because I talk like I have an education and I dress like a lady should dress. Why is it I have to be so white to have a proper accent or have something going for myself? It pisses me off soooooo bad! I hate that people say these things to me. I have gotten it from everyone including my mother! I don't shame black people and I don't worship white people. I am equal to everyone. I don't discriminate against a race because of a couple of assholes! I love and respect everyone unless you give me a reason to feel otherwise

BTEC
08-31-2006, 11:39 AM
...I'd also like to address the fact that it's cool to portray a lack of intelligence. Typing in awful grammar is not cool. Mumbling and saying unowhatimsayin after every sentence is not cool. Lazyness is not cool. Identifying a successful black man as an Uncle Tom is not cool...
Reverse racism is not cool. The high school that I went to was 99.5% black, and I am white. I got told quite often that a black person could not be racist in America. BS! I went through a ton of issues as a white boy growing up on the wrong side of Decatur. From job issues, to the lunchroom, to hey white boy you can't walk on this side of the street... At the time I only could resort to anger, and got whooped more than once. But as I get older I have pulled some sort of value from most of these experiences. I do understand that you CANNOT pigeonhold anyone to any group. I give everyone that I encounter the same respect until they prove that they do not deserve it.

I AGREE WITH THIS. :goodjob:

BTEC
08-31-2006, 11:44 AM
Ok I am trying to figure out if you are just posting this to be posting or if you truely mean it because how many times do we say nigga or nigwa? I don't see anything wrong with nigga. Yeah yeah yeah it has a hidden message whatever! Personally I try not to get myself all mad and worked up over someone else's ignorance. Racism is wrong and at times it makes me mad but overall I don't really care. There are not as many racist people as there used to be so we don't usally experience it on a day to day basis at least I don't. I had to deal with it when I dated my ex because his family is racist against blacks but they is on them. They want to live their lives hating someone then fine. It's not hurting me. I'm not gonna let some racist bastard affect how I live my life and stop me from saying certain things because it has a background. Nigga and nigger is different. Nigga can be said by anybody nigger can be said about any ignorant person. That's what it means and that is how it should be used.
NO, IF U PAYED ATTENTION UD REALIZE THAT UR THE ONE THAT CALLS ME NIGGA ALL THE TIME. ILL SAY IT IF IM QUOTING THE BOONDOCKS BUT THATS ABOUT IT. HOW DO U KNOW THERE ARENT AS MANY RACIST AS THERE USED TO BE? HOW OLD ARE U AGAIN? EXACTLY, SPEAK FROM EXPERIENCE MISS.

BTEC
08-31-2006, 11:51 AM
That's it fool, its on next time I see you.

I wee racism everyday and honestly I see it more from Black and Hispanic people than I do from White people.

For example twice last week I had black family ask for repairs to be done on there homes but they didn't want me to send the Hispanic paint crew. One of the Hispanic families didn't want my black drywall guy in there house.

You know what I told them, if they wanted it fixed then they would let whoever I sent in, if they don't want it fixed then that's fine too.

OH,

FUCK Stereotypes, that shits funny. Don't let that shit bother you. Watermelon is good, Fried Chicken is good, If I was black I sure as fuck wouldn't let it stop me from eating.

Matt
YEAH I HEARD ABOUT THE HISPANIC AND BLACK PPL GRUDGE OR WHATEVER. I MAKE A JOKE ABOUT IT ONCE. I SAY ITS A WAR FOR WHO IS REALLY THE MINORITY. NOW THE ASIANS ARE IN ON IT TOO. AS LONG AS THEY DNT MESS WITH ME THEY CAN FIGHT ALL THEY WANT BC I GOT BETTER STUFF TO DO.


IM RACIST DAMMIT. I DNT WANT NO DAMN WHITE MAN QUOTING MY SHIT SO STOP IF OR ILL CALL MY "BP BROTHAS". AND THAT DNT STAND FOR BARRETT PARKWAY OR THE GASSTATION. LOL!!!!

BluesClues
08-31-2006, 11:55 AM
NO, IF U PAYED ATTENTION UD REALIZE THAT UR THE ONE THAT CALLS ME NIGGA ALL THE TIME. ILL SAY IT IF IM QUOTING THE BOONDOCKS BUT THATS ABOUT IT. HOW DO U KNOW THERE ARENT AS MANY RACIST AS THERE USED TO BE? HOW OLD ARE U AGAIN? EXACTLY, SPEAK FROM EXPERIENCE MISS.
If you read it then you would have noticed I said at least I don't experience this. I see it everyonce and a while but I shrug it off and don't let it upset me because usually that is what they are trying to do is upset you and make you feel like less of a person but GOD created us all so no one is better than me:no:

TIGERJC
08-31-2006, 11:56 AM
Ok I am trying to figure out if you are just posting this to be posting or if you truely mean it because how many times do we say nigga or nigwa? I don't see anything wrong with nigga. Yeah yeah yeah it has a hidden message whatever! Personally I try not to get myself all mad and worked up over someone else's ignorance. Racism is wrong and at times it makes me mad but overall I don't really care. There are not as many racist people as there used to be so we don't usally experience it on a day to day basis at least I don't. I had to deal with it when I dated my ex because his family is racist against blacks but they is on them. They want to live their lives hating someone then fine. It's not hurting me. I'm not gonna let some racist bastard affect how I live my life and stop me from saying certain things because it has a background. Nigga and nigger is different. Nigga can be said by anybody nigger can be said about any ignorant person. That's what it means and that is how it should be used.
Help me to understand your logic for even using the word nigga in your vocabulary???

BTEC
08-31-2006, 12:06 PM
If you read it then you would have noticed I said at least I don't experience this. I see it everyonce and a while but I shrug it off and don't let it upset me because usually that is what they are trying to do is upset you and make you feel like less of a person but GOD created us all so no one is better than me:no:
U DIDNT JUST SHRUG IT OFF WHEN UR REALIZED UR TEAHCHER DIDNT LIKE U LAST YEAR. U CAME HOME ALL BEAT UP ABOUT IT AFTER U REALIZED WHAT WAS GOING ON.

BTEC
08-31-2006, 12:07 PM
Help me to understand your logic for even using the word nigga in your vocabulary???
SHES A "SMORE" OR "OREO" SO SHE FEELS LIKE SHE PART OF THE CREW WHEN SHE USES THAT WORD. IT MAKES HER FEEL LIKE SHE FITS IN BETTER. :dunno:

BluesClues
08-31-2006, 12:13 PM
Help me to understand your logic for even using the word nigga in your vocabulary???
It's just a laid back way of communicating with friends.

BTEC
08-31-2006, 12:15 PM
It's just a laid back way of communicating with friends.
ARE U COMFORTABLE BEING CALLED "BITCH" BC ALOT OF PPL LOOSELY USE THAT WRD WHEN TALKING TO THEIR FEMALE FRIENDS?

BluesClues
08-31-2006, 12:15 PM
U DIDNT JUST SHRUG IT OFF WHEN UR REALIZED UR TEAHCHER DIDNT LIKE U LAST YEAR. U CAME HOME ALL BEAT UP ABOUT IT AFTER U REALIZED WHAT WAS GOING ON.
I did not relate that to racism you did. You gave me the speech on how white people expect for us to under achieve and that that incident was probably related to racism. I just thought she was being an ass to me for whatever reason usually a girl issue

BluesClues
08-31-2006, 12:16 PM
SHES A "SMORE" OR "OREO" SO SHE FEELS LIKE SHE PART OF THE CREW WHEN SHE USES THAT WORD. IT MAKES HER FEEL LIKE SHE FITS IN BETTER. :dunno:
Whatever! So according to you I'm still part black so I should be able to use that word right?:yes:

BTEC
08-31-2006, 12:18 PM
I did not relate that to racism you did. You gave me the speech on how white people expect for us to under achieve and that that incident was probably related to racism. I just thought she was being an ass to me for whatever reason usually a girl issue
I SAID SOME DO AND THE PROBABLY MEANS ITS NOT DEFINITE. FOR ME TO SAY FOR SURE I WOULD HAVE HAD TO BE THERE TO KNOW WAS SHE TREATING YOU FAIRLY OR NOT. I ALREADY KNOW ONE REASON Y I DNT BLAME HER FOR NOT WANTING TO HELP YOU. SLACKER

BTEC
08-31-2006, 12:20 PM
Whatever! So according to you I'm still part black so I should be able to use that word right?:yes:
COLOR DOESNT MAKE U ELIDGABLE TO USE THAT WRD BUT DO WHAT U WANT SMARTASS. :2up:

BluesClues
08-31-2006, 12:22 PM
ARE U COMFORTABLE BEING CALLED "BITCH" BC ALOT OF PPL LOOSELY USE THAT WRD WHEN TALKING TO THEIR FEMALE FRIENDS?
Ummmm every so so kinda depends on my mood for that day. I call nita a hefa and a hoe. She calls me a trick. Just like I call you gay and you call me retarded

BluesClues
08-31-2006, 12:24 PM
COLOR DOESNT MAKE U ELIDGABLE TO USE THAT WRD BUT DO WHAT U WANT SMARTASS. :2up:
But why you gotta get mad though? Aren't we just having a discussion?

BTEC
08-31-2006, 12:29 PM
But why you gotta get mad though? Aren't we just having a discussion?
WHO SAID I WAS MAD? :thinking:

BEING CALLED A HEFER, HOE, AND TRICK ARENT AS OFFENSIVE AS BEING CALLED A "BITCH". TH WORD "NIGGER" WHICH HAS NOW BEEN MADE "COOL" (NIGGA) WAS MEANT TO BE AND WAS THE MOST OFFENSIVE WORD THAT COULD BE USED TOWARDS BLACKS SO Y DOES IT DEPEND ON UR MOOD FOR BEING CALLED A "BITCH" BUT U CAN CALL ME "NIGGA/NIGWA" WHENEVER U FEEL LIKE IT? AND YES, WE ARE JUST TALKING.

Tasuki_Civic
08-31-2006, 12:29 PM
alright I'll chime in on several points....:2cents:

"nigga" is not okay for anyone to say. The word has different meanings to different people, but it should not be okay for a black guy to use it in a positive way, but not ok for a white guy to use it in a positive way.

Wow, I wish I could have caught this thread earlier, I have a lot to add as well.
I think that a lot of the "setbacks and problems" that the black culture are experiencing are self induced. The baggy clothes, thuggin, disrepectful, and other negative traits are popular. It's cool to flex your pimp hand, and if you listen to rap, your not cool if your not selling weed, drinking 40s, disrespecting EVERYONE you see, lying cheating stealing etc... This whole new generation prides themselves on traits that were shamed years ago. That is holding that generation to certain stereotypes..
The old white ladies in Dunwoody are that way from a lack of exposure. They grew up one way, and they stay in their tight little circles, and the behavior is okay in those circles. Not unlike a group of teenage thugs living on Hollywood rd have a level of acceptable behavior, that would not be acceptable on Old Alabama rd.
I'd also like to address the fact that it's cool to portray a lack of intelligence. Typing in awful grammar is not cool. Mumbling and saying unowhatimsayin after every sentence is not cool. Lazyness is not cool. Identifying a successful black man as an Uncle Tom is not cool...
Reverse racism is not cool. The high school that I went to was 99.5% black, and I am white. I got told quite often that a black person could not be racist in America. BS! I went through a ton of issues as a white boy growing up on the wrong side of Decatur. From job issues, to the lunchroom, to hey white boy you can't walk on this side of the street... At the time I only could resort to anger, and got whooped more than once. But as I get older I have pulled some sort of value from most of these experiences. I do understand that you CANNOT pigeonhold anyone to any group. I give everyone that I encounter the same respect until they prove that they do not deserve it.

PS... I hate discussing race issues because my views are usually not commonplace.

actually i didnt think you did so bad. your right about the nigger part. it shouldnt be used at all by anyone in a positive way.

all those things you talked about stereotypes....its like i said before. its a mockery of black america. America takes the worst things of us and runs it thru like everyone like blood thru veins. and now its ecpected that me and my friends are the same way. No matter how i dress, where my hair or act. I cant ever wear my hair in an aafro without someone feeling un easy around me unless your a young white female or black america. and like i said before in every culture there are the bad ones who play along with everything and i hate that some black people play along with it to an extent around white people. ( at times you just have to because its needed but thats a whole nother point i need to make)

No. your wrong about old white ladies. its not just them. Its a good amount of white and asian women as well. no matter what age they are. its all the same thought with them. (atleast thats what i have experience around atlanta period not just dunwoody)

lol that unlce tom shit is true. not every blasck man is one. NOT AT ALL. but there are a great few amount that are. we live in world where we have to make a choice about ourselves to like white people of america. we have to cut our hair , talk their talk ( and im not saying speaking correct english here people) and walk their walk in order to even be around them because of work....ALONE. we have to make life changing decision just to keep our job that we deserve. or degrade our culture just to get the position we deserve. get fucked inmany ways that people cant even imgaine because of color and not givine a chance or the idea that i am a person as well with skill. Its sad because even if i work 30 times hard than the averge white joe....i still wont have 45% chance that i will get the position. unless they need a diverse amount which can egual up to one black person one asain and one Indian. then the whole company or where is diverse. and theres more to it....

that whole typing thing...i dont care about. i do it myself because i feel comfortable with myself and whom im talkin with so i dont have to worry about punctuation and grammer. everyone in america does not speak correct english and use correct grammer all the time . ITS AMERICA. we are known for fuckin up words.ROAYLY! we all have accents there is prolly more than 100 aaccents in america alone. regardless of what race. so i dont care when im on the computer with IA or anyone nless i have something to prove. then it starts with the little things like grammer

BTEC
08-31-2006, 12:30 PM
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SAY SOMETHING U CRACKA ASS CRACKA!!!!! AND NO IM NOT RACIST. ITS A JOKE BETWEEN US WHITE PPL. :D

Xan
08-31-2006, 12:35 PM
I was at a party in Forsyth county 2 saturdays ago when the hosts neighbor got all shit happy because 2 black guys showed up with a group of white kids. Guy walked into the middle of the cultisac with a can of lighter fluid and drew a cross on the pavement and lit it on fire. Shortly after that he jumped in his truck and sped off. He came back about 10 minutes later with another guy and started bitching at the group of people who'd massed at the end of the driveway wondering what the fuck was going on. Guy was telling us to "get those niggers outta Forsyth" and crazy shit like that. The party host went over and talked him down so everything was cool, then the party went on. Well, about 4 hours later(Around 2 am now) the group the 2 black guys showed up with were getting in there car to leave and ronny racist next door comes storming up his driveway with a pistol and pops off 5-6 rounds into the pavement, then hauls off and punches one of the black guys in the face. Less than 10 seconds later he had 3 cops on him. Turns out someone in the cultisac had already called the cops(Too many cars in the street) and they were creeping into the cultisac with their lights off all stealth like and caught the whole damn thing on their dash cams. Hate crimes automatically bumb infractions up to felonies with minimum 3 years per count. Needless to say, that motherfucker's goin away for a while.

Hulud
08-31-2006, 12:36 PM
just saw this now, i will post on it later when i have time, but i have a question

why is it considered "reverse discrimination" when a black person say something that if a white person said it would be considered racist?

Tasuki_Civic
08-31-2006, 12:38 PM
Ok I am trying to figure out if you are just posting this to be posting or if you truely mean it because how many times do we say nigga or nigwa? I don't see anything wrong with nigga. Yeah yeah yeah it has a hidden message whatever! Personally I try not to get myself all mad and worked up over someone else's ignorance. Racism is wrong and at times it makes me mad but overall I don't really care. There are not as many racist people as there used to be so we don't usally experience it on a day to day basis at least I don't. I had to deal with it when I dated my ex because his family is racist against blacks but they is on them. They want to live their lives hating someone then fine. It's not hurting me. I'm not gonna let some racist bastard affect how I live my life and stop me from saying certain things because it has a background. Nigga and nigger is different. Nigga can be said by anybody nigger can be said about any ignorant person. That's what it means and that is how it should be used.

not trying to put you on blast Blues. but that whats wrong with pple these days. they think there isnt as much when its just the same. its just hidden. because now america as a whole has gotten smarter about their rights and law suits. If i wasnt home evreyday i experience atleast 3 times a week. i could walk outside my house today and get my mail and i would experience it non-verbal. i see it has no meaning to you than just its wrong. to others and me it has a great deal of meaning. there alot of hidden messages that you look over and think that its ok and its not. jus like majority of america. things are happening infront of your face and you dont know it cause your stuck on there are bi-racial families and Mr.s rice is by hour president and all that. and rap is popular. lol black americas music,dance, arts, and all has been popular since before you were we were all born and that didnt stop white people unless they new where it came from.

BluesClues
08-31-2006, 12:39 PM
WHO SAID I WAS MAD? :thinking:

BEING CALLED A HEFER, HOE, AND TRICK ARENT AS OFFENSIVE AS BEING CALLED A "BITCH". TH WORD "NIGGER" WHICH HAS NOW BEEN MADE "COOL" (NIGGA) WAS MEANT TO BE AND WAS THE MOST OFFENSIVE WORD THAT COULD BE USED TOWARDS BLACKS SO Y DOES IT DEPEND ON UR MOOD FOR BEING CALLED A "BITCH" BUT U CAN CALL ME "NIGGA/NIGWA" WHENEVER U FEEL LIKE IT? AND YES, WE ARE JUST TALKING.
Ok it's like this: If you use the word nigger and are talking about someone ignorant then it will be takin in an offensive manner. If you use the word nigga and you are talking to your homeboys or homegirls then it will be takin in a lightly manner. If you use bitch in an offenisive way than it will be taken offensively. If you use bitch in a joking way then it will be takin in a joking manner. It makes no sense to me to get yourself all worked up over something you can do nothing about. There is racism and will always be racism. Apparently there is nothing anyone can do about the fact. You hating anyone else is not hurting anyone but you. Let shit go you have no control over you will leave a much more stess free life

BTEC
08-31-2006, 12:41 PM
I was at a party in Forsyth county 2 saturdays ago when the hosts neighbor got all shit happy because 2 black guys showed up with a group of white kids. Guy walked into the middle of the cultisac with a can of lighter fluid and drew a cross on the pavement and lit it on fire. Shortly after that he jumped in his truck and sped off. He came back about 10 minutes later with another guy and started bitching at the group of people who'd massed at the end of the driveway wondering what the fuck was going on. Guy was telling us to "get those niggers outta Forsyth" and crazy shit like that. The party host went over and talked him down so everything was cool, then the party went on. Well, about 4 hours later(Around 2 am now) the group the 2 black guys showed up with were getting in there car to leave and ronny racist next door comes storming up his driveway with a pistol and pops off 5-6 rounds into the pavement, then hauls off and punches one of the black guys in the face. Less than 10 seconds later he had 3 cops on him. Turns out someone in the cultisac had already called the cops(Too many cars in the street) and they were creeping into the cultisac with their lights off all stealth like and caught the whole damn thing on their dash cams. Hate crimes automatically bumb infractions up to felonies with minimum 3 years per count. Needless to say, that motherfucker's goin away for a while.
THE BLACK DUDES WERE STOOPID IMO FOR STAYING OUT THERE AFTER THE OTHER IDIOTS LIGHT THE CROSS FLUID ON FIRE. THEN NOT ONLY DO THEY STAY THEY ARE SCARED OR WEAK BC U DIDNT SAY NUN BOUT THE OTHER DUDE JUMPING IN OR THE DUDE WHO GOT SWUNG ON FIGHTING BACK. THEY HAD NO BIZ OUT THERE AND SHOULDVE BEEN GONE AFTER THE FIRST INCIDENT. EITHER WAY THAT DOESNT MAKE IT OK FOR DUDE TO COME OUT AND PUNCH HIM THOUGH. HE WAS CHICKEN SHIT FOM THE GIT GO AS WELL 4 COMING OUT WITH A GUN.

BTEC
08-31-2006, 12:43 PM
just saw this now, i will post on it later when i have time, but i have a question

why is it considered "reverse discrimination" when a black person say something that if a white person said it would be considered racist?
BC BLACK ARE A MINORTIY SO WE ARE DISCRIMINATED ON FROM THE JUMP. WHEN WE SWITCH IT ITS CALLED REVERSE. WHITE PPL BEING RACIST IS BC WE DNT JUST OUT OF NOWHERE DISCRIMINATE BC OF UR COLOR LIKE U DO HOO-LOOD. DUH!!


LOL!! BUT FORREAL IVE NEVER HEARD OF IT LIKE THAT. ITS ALL RACIST TO ME.

BluesClues
08-31-2006, 12:44 PM
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SAY SOMETHING U CRACKA ASS CRACKA!!!!! AND NO IM NOT RACIST. ITS A JOKE BETWEEN US WHITE PPL. :D
You said in two posts you were :yes:

Hulud
08-31-2006, 12:44 PM
BC BLACK ARE A MINORTIY SO WE ARE DISCRIMINATED ON FROM THE JUMP. WHEN WE SWITCH IT ITS CALLED REVERSE. WHITE PPL BEING RACIST IS BC WE DNT JUST OUT OF NOWHERE DISCRIMINATE BC OF UR COLOR LIKE U DO HOO-LOOD. DUH!!


LOL!! BUT FORREAL IVE NEVER HEARD OF IT LIKE THAT. ITS ALL RACIST TO ME.
lol ass

i was like WTF? hahaha

Tasuki_Civic
08-31-2006, 12:45 PM
just saw this now, i will post on it later when i have time, but i have a question

why is it considered "reverse discrimination" when a black person say something that if a white person said it would be considered racist?


in most cases racsim ......It is what it is by whomever it is. but i wouldnt expect a white guy come up to me and say wassup nigga and gives me Left hand dap like he knows. thats 2 wrongs ( disrespect) already. I will be pissed off. and even if i black guy said that to me.....and im a female and i didnt kno him....the only thing i would be offended about ( most of the time) is the fact he came up to me like he knew me. and i would also address to him that im not a nigga or a dude. you say and do stuff like that to a man not women. like the whole thing of a man not cursing infront of a lady type thing.

thats how i take it.


its kinda like i said before.....you and a friend ( mutual understanding) are talkin about your life...and then some random person comes by . stops.listens....and then starts telling you about yourself as if they knew fr years. not only is that disrespect of privacy but its fuckin rude. you would like it one bit because you dont even know this person and they dont know what you have been thru so how could they tell you about yourself.

its the same way

Xan
08-31-2006, 12:46 PM
THE BLACK DUDES WERE STOOPID IMO FOR STAYING OUT THERE AFTER THE OTHER IDIOTS LIGHT THE CROSS FLUID ON FIRE. THEN NOT ONLY DO THEY STAY THEY ARE SCARED OR WEAK BC U DIDNT SAY NUN BOUT THE OTHER DUDE JUMPING IN OR THE DUDE WHO GOT SWUNG ON FIGHTING BACK. THEY HAD NO BIZ OUT THERE AND SHOULDVE BEEN GONE AFTER THE FIRST INCIDENT. EITHER WAY THAT DOESNT MAKE IT OK FOR DUDE TO COME OUT AND PUNCH HIM THOUGH. HE WAS CHICKEN SHIT FOM THE GIT GO AS WELL 4 COMING OUT WITH A GUN.

We were doing our best to avoid a fight. The black dude who got punched was sitting in the back seat of the car getting ready to leave when the racist guy opened the door and punched him. As soon as he hit him cops swarmed his ass. Happened really fast. I wouldn't want to fight a guy with a gun anyway.

BTEC
08-31-2006, 12:49 PM
Ok it's like this: If you use the word nigger and are talking about someone ignorant then it will be takin in an offensive manner. If you use the word nigga and you are talking to your homeboys or homegirls then it will be takin in a lightly manner. If you use bitch in an offenisive way than it will be taken offensively. If you use bitch in a joking way then it will be takin in a joking manner. It makes no sense to me to get yourself all worked up over something you can do nothing about. There is racism and will always be racism. Apparently there is nothing anyone can do about the fact. You hating anyone else is not hurting anyone but you. Let shit go you have no control over you will leave a much more stess free life
MY POINT IS SIMPLE. DNT TWIST SOME SHIT AROUND THAT WAS CREATED TO HURT ME AND TRY TO MAKE IT SOUND A LIL DIFFERENT/COOLER OR WHATEVER AND WANT ME TO ACCEPT. YAWL YOUNG PPL FORGET OR ARE JUST TOO STOOPID TO UNDERSTAND. THINK ABOUT HOW MANY PPL DIED OVER THAT ONE WRD AND YAWL JUST ACCEPT IT AND MAKE EXCUSES FOR Y ITS OK TO SAY IT. THATS BULLSHIT AND IT PISSES ME OFF. THATS LIEK TELLING THEM THAT STOOD UP FOR US BACK IN THE DAY THAT THEY DIED OR FAUGHT FOR NOTHING, JUST A WASTE OF TIME RIGHT?

BTEC
08-31-2006, 12:50 PM
We were doing our best to avoid a fight. The black dude who got punched was sitting in the back seat of the car getting ready to leave when the racist guy opened the door and punched him. As soon as he hit him cops swarmed his ass. Happened really fast. I wouldn't want to fight a guy with a gun anyway.
OHHH, WELL THAT MAKES IT A LITTLE DIFFERENT. HMMMM

BluesClues
08-31-2006, 12:52 PM
not trying to put you on blast Blues. but that whats wrong with pple these days. they think there isnt as much when its just the same. its just hidden. because now america as a whole has gotten smarter about their rights and law suits. If i wasnt home evreyday i experience atleast 3 times a week. i could walk outside my house today and get my mail and i would experience it non-verbal. i see it has no meaning to you than just its wrong. to others and me it has a great deal of meaning. there alot of hidden messages that you look over and think that its ok and its not. jus like majority of america. things are happening infront of your face and you dont know it cause your stuck on there are bi-racial families and Mr.s rice is by hour president and all that. and rap is popular. lol black americas music,dance, arts, and all has been popular since before you were we were all born and that didnt stop white people unless they new where it came from.
Ok so I guess everyone that is all mad and ranting are the ones that have to deal with it? In that case I guess understand why you are so mad, but for me I don't feel the need to. I may face it everyday, but I'm the type to blow it off not really look that deep into things. When you are looking for something you will find it

Da Green Man
08-31-2006, 12:53 PM
You said in two posts you were :yes:
He also said between "us" white people. Last time I check BTEC wasn't white. Often Mistaken to be white but that doesn't make it so.

BTEC
08-31-2006, 12:56 PM
Ok so I guess everyone that is all mad and ranting are the ones that have to deal with it? In that case I guess understand why you are so mad, but for me I don't feel the need to. I may face it everyday, but I'm the type to blow it off not really look that deep into things. When you are looking for something you will find it
ohh shit!!!! what? sorry different subject but i had to point that out. but ne way, those that brush the shit off liek it never happend i used to call doormat. liek the kids in line u just take their juice and they just act liek they didnt want it any way. not saying ne thing is liek silently saying its ok to say, do, or treat me this way.

Hulud
08-31-2006, 12:59 PM
in most cases racsim ......It is what it is by whomever it is. but i wouldnt expect a white guy come up to me and say wassup nigga and gives me Left hand dap like he knows. thats 2 wrongs ( disrespect) already. I will be pissed off. and even if i black guy said that to me.....and im a female and i didnt kno him....the only thing i would be offended about ( most of the time) is the fact he came up to me like he knew me. and i would also address to him that im not a nigga or a dude. you say and do stuff like that to a man not women. like the whole thing of a man not cursing infront of a lady type thing.
so your saying that you would act differently to the situation depending on race?

BluesClues
08-31-2006, 12:59 PM
in most cases racsim ......It is what it is by whomever it is. but i wouldnt expect a white guy come up to me and say wassup nigga and gives me Left hand dap like he knows. thats 2 wrongs ( disrespect) already. I will be pissed off. and even if i black guy said that to me.....and im a female and i didnt kno him....the only thing i would be offended about ( most of the time) is the fact he came up to me like he knew me. and i would also address to him that im not a nigga or a dude. you say and do stuff like that to a man not women. like the whole thing of a man not cursing infront of a lady type thing.

thats how i take it.


its kinda like i said before.....you and a friend ( mutual understanding) are talkin about your life...and then some random person comes by . stops.listens....and then starts telling you about yourself as if they knew fr years. not only is that disrespect of privacy but its fuckin rude. you would like it one bit because you dont even know this person and they dont know what you have been thru so how could they tell you about yourself.

its the same way
That is what aggravates me so bad about people. Why in the hell are you living you life by these "rules?" You guys are stressing yourselves out about something so stupid. No one wants to go day to day living by these "rules" of if they are able to say nigga and to whom they can say nigga. It stupid! People just need to let shit go. Like I said, there are things that are just out of our hands you stressing the issue is not gonna make it any better!

Tasuki_Civic
08-31-2006, 01:03 PM
We were doing our best to avoid a fight. The black dude who got punched was sitting in the back seat of the car getting ready to leave when the racist guy opened the door and punched him. As soon as he hit him cops swarmed his ass. Happened really fast. I wouldn't want to fight a guy with a gun anyway.


thats sad to hear. but thats what happens to black pple. we always get the bad side even if the incident didnt happen with tham.





the whole matter about music. i mean there are all kinds of music that talks about drugs and alcohol and sex and treating women with disrespect and extreme violance. im sure i could name a really good few of genres that wouldnt deal with rap or r&b or blues. but people dont show that. that dont think its important beacuse they want to shadow everything except for what black america does. they use everything we do as entertainment. ive heard a man say " niggas are good for othing but entertainment. you cant take them niggas seriously cuz they are stupid regardless of what job they have"

there is no respect for those of color even if you are a sell out. but the sell out are those who get to go to places that any regualr black person could not go. im talkin about counrty clubs, resturants, cities, jobs, and more.

BluesClues
08-31-2006, 01:03 PM
MY POINT IS SIMPLE. DNT TWIST SOME SHIT AROUND THAT WAS CREATED TO HURT ME AND TRY TO MAKE IT SOUND A LIL DIFFERENT/COOLER OR WHATEVER AND WANT ME TO ACCEPT. YAWL YOUNG PPL FORGET OR ARE JUST TOO STOOPID TO UNDERSTAND. THINK ABOUT HOW MANY PPL DIED OVER THAT ONE WRD AND YAWL JUST ACCEPT IT AND MAKE EXCUSES FOR Y ITS OK TO SAY IT. THATS BULLSHIT AND IT PISSES ME OFF. THATS LIEK TELLING THEM THAT STOOD UP FOR US BACK IN THE DAY THAT THEY DIED OR FAUGHT FOR NOTHING, JUST A WASTE OF TIME RIGHT?
No. But you can't continue to hold a grudge for anything either. Hell there was a hollucaust against Jews, so does that mean that Jews should hate Germans for the rest of their lives?

hemi
08-31-2006, 01:03 PM
Maybe when a white guy says nigger, he doesn't meant anything negative? Just pro-nounc-ing the word how it is written? Can he help it if his accent has strong Rs?

BluesClues
08-31-2006, 01:07 PM
ohh shit!!!! what? sorry different subject but i had to point that out. but ne way, those that brush the shit off liek it never happend i used to call doormat. liek the kids in line u just take their juice and they just act liek they didnt want it any way. not saying ne thing is liek silently saying its ok to say, do, or treat me this way.
So should I show my ass and act they way they think a "nigger" is supposed to act? NO! I continue on about my way because as long as you don't touch me or my car then there is no problem unless you get in my face, then that is another story

Tasuki_Civic
08-31-2006, 01:08 PM
so your saying that you would act differently to the situation depending on race?

hell fuckin yea i would. didnt i clearly state that out.

i said i wouldnt like it at for ANY WHITE PERSON TO TELL ME WASSUP MY NIGGA. and for a black person to say that to me its jsut as disrespectful as ablack women coming froma black man. but i wouldnt be so damn angry if it came from a black man because there is a certain understand and certain something that it not ok to use but it more of a sacasim way for greeting. its hard to explain but i dont think its right wither way.

a white person should know better than to address someone like that. if a white person who is not all into fads and shit says wassup nigga fits thaought to them is im not black nor stupid.
NOW Y ARE YOU ASKIN ME WHY IT DEPENDS ON RACE?

Tasuki_Civic
08-31-2006, 01:10 PM
Maybe when a white guy says nigger, he doesn't meant anything negative? Just pro-nounc-ing the word how it is written? Can he help it if his accent has strong Rs?

it shouldnt be said at all.

BTEC
08-31-2006, 01:10 PM
No. But you can't continue to hold a grudge for anything either. Hell there was a hollucaust against Jews, so does that mean that Jews should hate Germans for the rest of their lives?
the jews are mad about that shit too. hell u tom bout?

but the question is are we talking bout the jews right now? nope in my black tee.

Hulud
08-31-2006, 01:10 PM
hell fuckin yea i would. didnt i clearly state that out.

i said i wouldnt like it at for ANY WHITE PERSON TO TELL ME WASSUP MY NIGGA. and for a black person to say that to me its jsut as disrespectful as ablack women coming froma black man. but i wouldnt be so damn angry if it came from a black man because there is a certain understand and certain something that it not ok to use but it more of a sacasim way for greeting. its hard to explain but i dont think its right wither way.

a white person should know better than to address someone like that. if a white person who is not all into fads and shit says wassup nigga fits thaought to them is im not black nor stupid.
NOW Y ARE YOU ASKIN ME WHY IT DEPENDS ON RACE?
because it seems you yourself are a racist

BluesClues
08-31-2006, 01:10 PM
thats sad to hear. but thats what happens to black pple. we always get the bad side even if the incident didnt happen with tham.





the whole matter about music. i mean there are all kinds of music that talks about drugs and alcohol and sex and treating women with disrespect and extreme violance. im sure i could name a really good few of genres that wouldnt deal with rap or r&b or blues. but people dont show that. that dont think its important beacuse they want to shadow everything except for what black america does. they use everything we do as entertainment. ive heard a man say " niggas are good for othing but entertainment. you cant take them niggas seriously cuz they are stupid regardless of what job they have"

there is no respect for those of color even if you are a sell out. but the sell out are those who get to go to places that any regualr black person could not go. im talkin about counrty clubs, resturants, cities, jobs, and more.
Correction. I am not a sell out and I have been to my fair share of white bars and restaurants. Oddly enough I have never had a problem. Everyone was really nice to me and wanted to dance with me. Alot of guys hit on me and the girls wanted to chat.

BluesClues
08-31-2006, 01:12 PM
Maybe when a white guy says nigger, he doesn't meant anything negative? Just pro-nounc-ing the word how it is written? Can he help it if his accent has strong Rs?
That reminds me of the song refer and beer by devin the dude:lmfao:
It's you my nigga
Your my nigger
No nigga

BTEC
08-31-2006, 01:12 PM
So should I show my ass and act they way they think a "nigger" is supposed to act? NO! I continue on about my way because as long as you don't touch me or my car then there is no problem unless you get in my face, then that is another story
there are more than one way to let a person know that ur not gonna let them treat u ne kinda way. if acting like a "nigger" (however that is) is the only way u know u need to stay in the house. theres enough ppl out there embarassing me (black man) already. preciate it

Tasuki_Civic
08-31-2006, 01:14 PM
No. But you can't continue to hold a grudge for anything either. Hell there was a hollucaust against Jews, so does that mean that Jews should hate Germans for the rest of their lives?


i talk about it because it can make a change on pples views. there is right from wrong Blues. i dont hate white pple or any race at all. i state the white race because that is the race group that puts blasck pple on a pedastool for stupid.

that war is not over between Jews and Germans and Americans. thats insane. ive heard plenty and i mean plenty of white americans talk about jewish pple like crazy and laugh as if they are a joke. and its very bold to do because Dunwoody is kinda like the jewish city of atlanta.

BluesClues
08-31-2006, 01:15 PM
the jews are mad about that shit too. hell u tom bout?

but the question is are we talking bout the jews right now? nope in my black tee.
I was simply making a point. we turd

BluesClues
08-31-2006, 01:15 PM
because it seems you yourself are a racist
I agree to an extent

Hulud
08-31-2006, 01:16 PM
I agree to an extent
i know right?

i think she is missing the point that if you treat people differently based on race, that makes you a racist

Tasuki_Civic
08-31-2006, 01:17 PM
Correction. I am not a sell out and I have been to my fair share of white bars and restaurants. Oddly enough I have never had a problem. Everyone was really nice to me and wanted to dance with me. Alot of guys hit on me and the girls wanted to chat.


lol i didnt say you were a sell out. i go everywhere and i blend in fine just like you with everyone not even think twice about me being the only black person cause im there to have fun. i was talkin about others who are a sell out. it seems you dont know what i mean when i say that.

BTEC
08-31-2006, 01:17 PM
Correction. I am not a sell out and I have been to my fair share of white bars and restaurants. Oddly enough I have never had a problem. Everyone was really nice to me and wanted to dance with me. Alot of guys hit on me and the girls wanted to chat.
one u are a female and u sure dnt talk like a ghetto ass chick. the stereotype say s u talk like a white girl.

u are not ugly and nto all white guys discrimiate so y would they not talk to you?

there are alot of bisexula females in our days so why would they not talk to you?

did the chick say some racist shit to you and u just brushed it off. were they sarcastic with u and made u look stoopid in front of their friends and talked about you when u left?


or they couldve just been cool ppl.

Who said that evey white person is racist in the first place? :thinking:

Tasuki_Civic
08-31-2006, 01:22 PM
Ok so I guess everyone that is all mad and ranting are the ones that have to deal with it? In that case I guess understand why you are so mad, but for me I don't feel the need to. I may face it everyday, but I'm the type to blow it off not really look that deep into things. When you are looking for something you will find it


im not mad ...it jsut disapoints me. and im not rant either. im talking about things that happen on an everyday basis and change starts with communication. yes it means something to me if i walkin to a place where i should belong and pple make lies and excuse why i cant eat of be where i am. i have a problem with that. but i dont go looking for trouble. where did you get that from. i look to be respected as who i am not what i look like just like any other person in america. whats so wrong about that??


so because its not importatnt o you it shouldnt be important to others. that sounds a little selfish Jamese. im mean really if your mother got into it with some white women that disrespected her you would be upset about it. and feel something. ( then again ya mom might be white so nevermind

hemi
08-31-2006, 01:23 PM
actually i didnt think you did so bad. your right about the nigger part. it shouldnt be used at all by anyone in a positive way.

all those things you talked about stereotypes....its like i said before. its a mockery of black america. America takes the worst things of us and runs it thru like everyone like blood thru veins. and now its ecpected that me and my friends are the same way. No matter how i dress, where my hair or act. I cant ever wear my hair in an aafro without someone feeling un easy around me unless your a young white female or black america. and like i said before in every culture there are the bad ones who play along with everything and i hate that some black people play along with it to an extent around white people. ( at times you just have to because its needed but thats a whole nother point i need to make)

-Okay, who is promoting the stereotypes? The people that "act white" or "act black". I prefer to think that you either act courteous and professional, or imature. I know that these are broad strokes but they fit for the most part. I think some chicks with afros are hot, so nix on that... I don't get "play along with it"? You mean act civilized because the situation calls for it, or act a fool because you think that is what the white people want to see?http://forums.importatlanta.com/images/smilies/thinking.gif

No. your wrong about old white ladies. its not just them. Its a good amount of white and asian women as well. no matter what age they are. its all the same thought with them. (atleast thats what i have experience around atlanta period not just dunwoody)

-Maybe you are right, but I know that my grandmother is fine with my little bros "colored" girlfriend. They interact just fine, but because of how she was brought up she may be labeled as racist. She's not, she just hasn't gotten up to date with the PC term for a black person...(African Americans are people that moved here from Africa, not whose great-great grandpa didhttp://forums.importatlanta.com/images/smilies/goodjob.gif )

lol that unlce tom shit is true. not every blasck man is one. NOT AT ALL. but there are a great few amount that are. we live in world where we have to make a choice about ourselves to like white people of america. we have to cut our hair , talk their talk ( and im not saying speaking correct english here people) and walk their walk in order to even be around them because of work....ALONE. we have to make life changing decision just to keep our job that we deserve. or degrade our culture just to get the position we deserve. get fucked inmany ways that people cant even imgaine because of color and not givine a chance or the idea that i am a person as well with skill. Its sad because even if i work 30 times hard than the averge white joe....i still wont have 45% chance that i will get the position. unless they need a diverse amount which can egual up to one black person one asain and one Indian. then the whole company or where is diverse. and theres more to it....

--Wow, there's a lot in here... don't cut your hair, talk or walk that way. You either make a decision to put yourself into that demo or not. If A country boy with a mullet, and real bad southern slang tried to get a job at the NAACP headquarters, could he? Or even Bank of America, or any coorporate position, could he? NO, I think that he would get AT LEAST the same amount of issues.. You just have to be happy in your skin, and find a job that allows that. degrade your culture? I guess I would have to know what you define as "your culture" I could argue that I work 30 times as hard as a black Bob, but because he's black he got the job, dam quotas... There are programs to help every sector of society except for the white man... but I don't care, cause I'm gonna get mine regardless...

that whole typing thing...i dont care about. i do it myself because i feel comfortable with myself and whom im talkin with so i dont have to worry about punctuation and grammer. everyone in america does not speak correct english and use correct grammer all the time . ITS AMERICA. we are known for fuckin up words.ROAYLY! we all have accents there is prolly more than 100 aaccents in america alone. regardless of what race. so i dont care when im on the computer with IA or anyone nless i have something to prove. then it starts with the little things like grammer
The Roayly mad me LILR... http://forums.importatlanta.com/images/smilies/lmfao.gif

I hate that everyone needs to place people into groups. I've never really fit. I listen to rap music, country, and the head banging music. My last truck was an SS Silverado on 22s, and now I have a Dodge Ram on 37" mudders... I refuse to curtail my personal interest because they are not what I am "supposed to do". I choose to surround myselves with people that do the same. I agree that there are still some good ol boys in offices some places, that don't want to hire blacks, asians, or whatever. But I also know for a fact that there are blacks that will NEVER hire a white guy. You have to give respect, and then demand it in return. I used to own one of the biggest hip-hop nightclubs in Atlanta. I had negotiations with all types of people. You can't stereotype by race, it just doesn't work anymore.... People need to move on.:cheers:

Hulud
08-31-2006, 01:27 PM
im not mad ...it jsut disapoints me. and im not rant either. im talking about things that happen on an everyday basis and change starts with communication. yes it means something to me if i walkin to a place where i should belong and pple make lies and excuse why i cant eat of be where i am. i have a problem with that. but i dont go looking for trouble. where did you get that from. i look to be respected as who i am not what i look like just like any other person in america. whats so wrong about that??


so because its not importatnt o you it shouldnt be important to others. that sounds a little selfish Jamese. im mean really if your mother got into it with some white women that disrespected her you would be upset about it. and feel something. ( then again ya mom might be white so nevermind
whats wrong with you is you look at it based on race

you are turning a blind eye to people of other race who disrespect you

and automatically think that because a "white person" disrespects you, its race related

hemi
08-31-2006, 01:27 PM
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Tasuki_Civic
08-31-2006, 01:27 PM
because it seems you yourself are a racist


ok did i call youout and say that you are because you dont care how pple speak to you. NO. so dont say that i am because im not. i dont count how many friends i have that arent black i dont talk about white pple or any race like a dog and they are beneath me. im not like that.


but to america if a black person speaks out about how they feel when shit happens...off the rip imi racist? get tha fuck outta here!!

thats just plain stupid :no:

BluesClues
08-31-2006, 01:28 PM
one u are a female and u sure dnt talk like a ghetto ass chick. the stereotype say s u talk like a white girl.

u are not ugly and nto all white guys discrimiate so y would they not talk to you?

there are alot of bisexula females in our days so why would they not talk to you?

did the chick say some racist shit to you and u just brushed it off. were they sarcastic with u and made u look stoopid in front of their friends and talked about you when u left?


or they couldve just been cool ppl.

Who said that evey white person is racist in the first place? :thinking:
I was just saying

Tasuki_Civic
08-31-2006, 01:28 PM
whats wrong with you is you look at it based on race

you are turning a blind eye to people of other race who disrespect you

and automatically think that because a "white person" disrespects you, its race related


no likeive said plenty of times it doesnt matter what race you are its disrespect. and yes i will look at you crazy as fuck pulling a race card cause you just called me a nigga.

Hulud
08-31-2006, 01:29 PM
ok did i call youout and say that you are because you dont care how pple speak to you. NO. so dont say that i am because im not. i dont count how many friends i have that arent black i dont talk about white pple or any race like a dog and they are beneath me. im not like that.


but to america if a black person speaks out about how they feel when shit happens...off the rip imi racist? get tha fuck outta here!!

thats just plain stupid :no:
no your being ignorant and ignoring what i posted

you are reacting different to how people tlak to you based on race

that is racism

hemi
08-31-2006, 01:29 PM
if your mother got into it with some white women that disrespected her you would be upset about it. and feel something. ( then again ya mom might be white so nevermind


Can't you just be mad at some idiot talking smack to your mom? Why does it have to be case they were white?
If a black man snaps at your mom, are you gonna get mad at all black men?:thinking:

Hulud
08-31-2006, 01:30 PM
no likeive said plenty of times it doesnt matter what race you are its disrespect. and yes i will look at you crazy as fuck pulling a race card cause you just called me a nigga.
because someone is white you will act differently, that is racism

think about it

Tasuki_Civic
08-31-2006, 01:32 PM
The Roayly mad me LILR... http://forums.importatlanta.com/images/smilies/lmfao.gif

I hate that everyone needs to place people into groups. I've never really fit. I listen to rap music, country, and the head banging music. My last truck was an SS Silverado on 22s, and now I have a Dodge Ram on 37" mudders... I refuse to curtail my personal interest because they are not what I am "supposed to do". I choose to surround myselves with people that do the same. I agree that there are still some good ol boys in offices some places, that don't want to hire blacks, asians, or whatever. But I also know for a fact that there are blacks that will NEVER hire a white guy. You have to give respect, and then demand it in return. I used to own one of the biggest hip-hop nightclubs in Atlanta. I had negotiations with all types of people. You can't stereotype by race, it just doesn't work anymore.... People need to move on.:cheers:

i didnt put everyone into a group. if you feel that way then check yourself. but everything you stated i agree. people should move on and that was the point i wrote all that stuff. if they did move then i wouldnt have wrote this thread in the first place

Tasuki_Civic
08-31-2006, 01:33 PM
because someone is white you will act differently, that is racism

think about it

dude your crazy...its racist to use the word :doh: so im going to take it that way :doh:

BluesClues
08-31-2006, 01:33 PM
im not mad ...it jsut disapoints me. and im not rant either. im talking about things that happen on an everyday basis and change starts with communication. yes it means something to me if i walkin to a place where i should belong and pple make lies and excuse why i cant eat of be where i am. i have a problem with that. but i dont go looking for trouble. where did you get that from. i look to be respected as who i am not what i look like just like any other person in america. whats so wrong about that??


so because its not importatnt o you it shouldnt be important to others. that sounds a little selfish Jamese. im mean really if your mother got into it with some white women that disrespected her you would be upset about it. and feel something. ( then again ya mom might be white so nevermind
I meant if you have a chip on your shoulder about racism and you live your life thinking that everything you do and say will never be good enough for a white person then it won't. Have you ever heard of the things you expect and say to happen will happen. I forgot the term for it

Hulud
08-31-2006, 01:34 PM
dude your crazy...its racist to use the word :doh: so im going to take it that way :doh:
how so? if black people can use it then it doesnt make sense that white people cannot

that logic is racist right there

BluesClues
08-31-2006, 01:35 PM
The Roayly mad me LILR... http://forums.importatlanta.com/images/smilies/lmfao.gif

I hate that everyone needs to place people into groups. I've never really fit. I listen to rap music, country, and the head banging music. My last truck was an SS Silverado on 22s, and now I have a Dodge Ram on 37" mudders... I refuse to curtail my personal interest because they are not what I am "supposed to do". I choose to surround myselves with people that do the same. I agree that there are still some good ol boys in offices some places, that don't want to hire blacks, asians, or whatever. But I also know for a fact that there are blacks that will NEVER hire a white guy. You have to give respect, and then demand it in return. I used to own one of the biggest hip-hop nightclubs in Atlanta. I had negotiations with all types of people. You can't stereotype by race, it just doesn't work anymore.... People need to move on.:cheers:
Exactly

Tracy
08-31-2006, 01:36 PM
My dad is really racists. Some of you have probably met him actually. He comes to the dyno days and drift days sometimes. He's real cool in general...he's just a racists. I guess that's an oxymoron. I hate that part about him. When I was growing up he never used the N word. But for some reason I always knew not to bring a black person home. It was like an unsaid thing. I mean I guess he had said it at some point...but nothing that I remember specifically. All of that being said, I have 3 sisters....they all date black men ONLY :) My sister Tammy actually has a baby by a black man. I always tell my dad this is what he gets for being so against black people. Once he figured out the next oldest daughter was dating black men...he started making a big deal out of it. He actually kicked her out of the house when she was 17...the last month of her senior yar. She never graduated because of it. We didn't speak for 4 years over that situation. It's wierd cuz when black peole are around, he will definately talk to them and be nice....but he doesn't want them in his house. He says he was raised that way. Well, I was raised that way and I fucking hate it. I hate it most for my sisters because during the holidays I can bring my BF, but they can't bring theirs. So we always have an after dad's house party for all of their BF's at my house :D

When I moved from MIA to Ocala, I had white people be racists against me..I guess it was against me and my friends really. Comming from MIA, baggy clothes and big hoop earing with you name in them and bandannas in your hair were the style. In Ocala it was boots and wranglers....blah! I kind of just naturally gravitated to the black crowd in school. I ended up getting expelled my junior year and expelled 20 smething times my senior year for fighting....girls that would call me a nigger lover ;)

At the first Drift Fury (Marlon was there with me), I saw this big cloud of burn out smoke comming from where the bikers were all lined up. So I ran over there to tell them to stop. I just in general yelled at everyone. It just so happened that they were all black. I couldn't see that origionally. There were so many people there I could just see the smoke throught he crowd. They all started yelling at me telling me I was only upset cuz they were black. I couldn't at that point explian to them that that's not the reason at all. I mean, I have black people in my family. They were all ganging up on me about it. I hate that they pulled the race card on me. It hurt my feelings. It hurt my feelings that I couldn't make them understand that wasn't the reason at all. I would have yelled if it was a group of white people. Luckily Marlon was there to stand up for me as good as he could.

Sometimes I feel a little uncomfortable around black people and I feel myself acting different to prove that I'm not racists. Sometimes I say thing that are a little off and I realize after I say them that it came out wierd. Then i find myself trying to expain so they understand and that only makes it worse :) I like hanging out with black people and I want to be accepted by them. I know I shouldn't try to act a certain way, but sometimes I do unknowingly.

This is all just jibber jabber that I'm writing. I really just want to say that I wish racism wasn't such a factor in day to day life. I wish it never happened. I wish we could just make it go away. I'm sorry for anyone that has experienced it on any level. It just sucks.

hemi
08-31-2006, 01:37 PM
but to america if a black person speaks out about how they feel when shit happens...off the rip imi racist? get tha fuck outta here!!

thats just plain stupid :no:


WOW, that's the least intelligent thing that you have said... sorry girl but you just lost points.:tongue1: All day long black people can talk about experiences that they have dealing with racism, and it's "OK"...
The hurricane - New Orleans was against black people
And anything else that Jesse Jackson, or Al Sharpton is on the news about. It's okay to be black and proud, but white people nah... Can you imagine if White Power shirts, I'm white and proud, or a comb with a white fist became popular?? It was awful to beat up Rodney King, but that white guy in the 18 wheeler got what was coming right?

Hulud
08-31-2006, 01:38 PM
OK tasuki

my whole point in this thread is before you start talking about racism, you need to take a step back and look in a mirror first

BluesClues
08-31-2006, 01:39 PM
Can't you just be mad at some idiot talking smack to your mom? Why does it have to be case they were white?
If a black man snaps at your mom, are you gonna get mad at all black men?:thinking:
I completely agree!!!! Why does it have to be about what race snapped on who? So my friend Jason right in front of me is white. If I wanted to snap on him should he be mad he got snapped on by a black girl? Would it be better if he were snapped on by a white girl?

Tasuki_Civic
08-31-2006, 01:40 PM
Can't you just be mad at some idiot talking smack to your mom? Why does it have to be case they were white?
If a black man snaps at your mom, are you gonna get mad at all black men?:thinking:


oh my god!!!you are so dumb. if you read what i have been writing you would know i said i dont hate everyone. ive repeated myself atleast 5 times already

hemi
08-31-2006, 01:40 PM
i didnt put everyone into a group. if you feel that way then check yourself. but everything you stated i agree. people should move on and that was the point i wrote all that stuff. if they did move then i wouldnt have wrote this thread in the first place

Right, I thought it was little old white ladies in Dunwoody...

Hulud
08-31-2006, 01:42 PM
Right, I thought it was little old white ladies in Dunwoody...
:lmfao:

BluesClues
08-31-2006, 01:45 PM
My dad is really racists. Some of you have probably met him actually. He comes to the dyno days and drift days sometimes. He's real cool in general...he's just a racists. I guess that's an oxymoron. I hate that part about him. When I was growing up he never used the N word. But for some reason I always knew not to bring a black person home. It was like an unsaid thing. I mean I guess he had said it at some point...but nothing that I remember specifically. All of that being said, I have 3 sisters....they all date black men ONLY :) My sister Tammy actually has a baby by a black man. I always tell my dad this is what he gets for being so against black people. Once he figured out the next oldest daughter was dating black men...he started making a big deal out of it. He actually kicked her out of the house when she was 17...the last month of her senior yar. She never graduated because of it. We didn't speak for 4 years over that situation. It's wierd cuz when black peole are around, he will definately talk to them and be nice....but he doesn't want them in his house. He says he was raised that way. Well, I was raised that way and I fucking hate it. I hate it most for my sisters because during the holidays I can bring my BF, but they can't bring theirs. So we always have an after dad's house party for all of their BF's at my house :D

When I moved from MIA to Ocala, I had white people be racists against me..I guess it was against me and my friends really. Comming from MIA, baggy clothes and big hoop earing with you name in them and bandannas in your hair were the style. In Ocala it was boots and wranglers....blah! I kind of just naturally gravitated to the black crowd in school. I ended up getting expelled my junior year and expelled 20 smething times my senior year for fighting....girls that would call me a nigger lover ;)

At the first Drift Fury (Marlon was there with me), I saw this big cloud of burn out smoke comming from where the bikers were all lined up. So I ran over there to tell them to stop. I just in general yelled at everyone. It just so happened that they were all black. I couldn't see that origionally. There were so many people there I could just see the smoke throught he crowd. They all started yelling at me telling me I was only upset cuz they were black. I couldn't at that point explian to them that that's not the reason at all. I mean, I have black people in my family. They were all ganging up on me about it. I hate that they pulled the race card on me. It hurt my feelings. It hurt my feelings that I couldn't make them understand that wasn't the reason at all. I would have yelled if it was a group of white people. Luckily Marlon was there to stand up for me as good as he could.

Sometimes I feel a little uncomfortable around black people and I feel myself acting different to prove that I'm not racists. Sometimes I say thing that are a little off and I realize after I say them that it came out wierd. Then i find myself trying to expain so they understand and that only makes it worse :) I like hanging out with black people and I want to be accepted by them. I know I shouldn't try to act a certain way, but sometimes I do unknowingly.

This is all just jibber jabber that I'm writing. I really just want to say that I wish racism wasn't such a factor in day to day life. I wish it never happened. I wish we could just make it go away. I'm sorry for anyone that has experienced it on any level. It just sucks.
That's because some people live day to day with this chip on their shoulder that they become overly defensive to where they become the racist one

hemi
08-31-2006, 01:45 PM
This thread is moving too fast... cant, keep, up...

Going to lunch...

It's all love Tasuki...

BTEC
08-31-2006, 01:47 PM
TRACY IM SORRY TO HEAR THAT UR DAD IS THE WAY HE IS AND U HAD TO GROW UP AROUND THAT. SUCKS FOR UR SISTERS BF'S BC IVE BEEN IN THEIR SHOE A COUPLE TIMES AND IN BAD SITUATION BC OF IT TOO. IM GLAD U DIDNT TURN OUT LIEK THAT BC U ARE INDEED A PRETTY COOL IMPORT CHICK. AND THAT GANGSTA ATTITUDE U HAVE IS SOOOO HOT.

AS FOR THE PPL THAT SAID U WAS YELLING BC THEY WERE BLACK. THEY ARE RACIST AND WAS LOOKING FOR A REASON TO TRY YOU. I WOULDVE HAD UR BACK AS WELL, AINT SKURD.

BluesClues
08-31-2006, 01:47 PM
Why is I seem to be the only one agreeing with the "white" people in this thead?:thinking:

BTEC
08-31-2006, 01:49 PM
Why is I seem to be the only one agreeing with the "white" people in this thead?:thinking:
BC UR RACIST. NOW U SEE WHAT THE FUCK I BEEN TALKING ABOUT. :2up:
I THINK WE SHOUDL SE OTHER PPL. :(

BluesClues
08-31-2006, 01:51 PM
BC UR RACIST. NOW U SEE WHAT THE FUCK I BEEN TALKING ABOUT. :2up:
I THINK WE SHOUDL SE OTHER PPL. :(
Ummmm If I do recall you did say in two posts you were racist :yes:

Tasuki_Civic
08-31-2006, 01:55 PM
OK tasuki

my whole point in this thread is before you start talking about racism, you need to take a step back and look in a mirror first


haha what are yout talkin about? i know who i am and what i believe it aint racism.

im not some idiot that wants to talk about this topic and not make some vaild points. its said that if i speak my mind about my experiences and what i have seen in my life that i am racist. ive stated more than 6 ways that i would like for things to change and i am feel the same about everyone on this act no matter what race. and no matter how many times i say it some pple cant get the point.

my father at first didnt agree with me dating white guys and i only had to date black or latino. but i wasnt having that and nierther was my sister. we find people beautiful no matter what background or color. and it took him awhile to get used to it but he did. i was always raised and went to shcools where it was diverse and i my life consist of diversity as well. and i wouldnt give that up for the world. but there are something that i enjoy doing but its a challenge for me because "I" go thru racist things with pple. even tho i said i blend in withthe rest of the crowd. i still stick out. and that is something i am used to. its just makes it harder because someone hates me for what i look like.

and i see it as 2 wrongs dont make a right when black pple do all that stuff to white pple. but its more of a retaliation more than just being that way out of cause.

BTEC
08-31-2006, 01:56 PM
Ummmm If I do recall you did say in two posts you were racist :yes:
YES, I SAID IM RACIST AGIANST EVERYBODY. AND THAT INCLUDED A RACIST GF WHO ON THE "OTHER" TEAM.

Big Baller
08-31-2006, 01:56 PM
HI-C

Tasuki_Civic
08-31-2006, 01:57 PM
This thread is moving too fast... cant, keep, up...

Going to lunch...

It's all love Tasuki...

yea i know ...... :D its just i would like for some pple to have an overstanding about how my life is and what i experience......and my friends and family as well in all races

BTEC
08-31-2006, 01:59 PM
HI-C
WHATCHEW TRYING TO SEE, BLACK PPL LIKE COOL-AID WITH THEY FRIED CHICKEN?

Tasuki_Civic
08-31-2006, 02:01 PM
WHATCHEW TRYING TO SEE, BLACK PPL LIKE COOL-AID WITH THEY FRIED CHICKEN?
:lmfao: i cant lie i do. but food like that has to be eatin like 1 every 2 months. too greasy and too much sugar for my body

hemi
08-31-2006, 02:02 PM
HI-C is more expensive than Kool Aid, it's for white folks...

Tasuki_Civic
08-31-2006, 02:04 PM
Honestly Blues i dont agree with you to be so light hearted about it. but i dont agree to be overly angry about it either because its here to stay as strong as it was then it is now. i just think that if something is wrong speak your mind and talk about things so pple can and yourself and i can have an overstanding about whats going on in this world and country and the coummunity

Tasuki_Civic
08-31-2006, 02:04 PM
HI-C is more expensive than Kool Aid, it's for white folks...


so is chi-fila ( suburbs) vs churches chicken ( tha hood)

hemi
08-31-2006, 02:04 PM
What is an overstanding?

BluesClues
08-31-2006, 02:14 PM
YES, I SAID IM RACIST AGIANST EVERYBODY. AND THAT INCLUDED A RACIST GF WHO ON THE "OTHER" TEAM.
I AM NOT A RACIST ASSHOLE!!!!:lmfao:

BluesClues
08-31-2006, 02:18 PM
I keep stock of kool-aid :lmao:

Tasuki_Civic
08-31-2006, 02:21 PM
What is an overstanding?

its just a saying that you have a mutual understanding with whom your speaking with. seeing eye to eye.

Tasuki_Civic
08-31-2006, 02:22 PM
im out and i'll be back later

BTEC
08-31-2006, 02:40 PM
its just a saying that you have a mutual understanding with whom your speaking with. seeing eye to eye.
SO A OVERSTANDING IS AND UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN 2 PPL? IS IT ME OR DOES THAT JUST SOUND FUNNY? LOL!!! I UNDERSTAND WHAT UR SAYING BUT IT JUST SOUNDED...NEVER MINE. ~leaves~

BTEC
08-31-2006, 02:41 PM
I AM NOT A RACIST ASSHOLE!!!!:lmfao:
DOES IT LOOK LIKE IM SMILING? :mad:

BluesClues
08-31-2006, 02:45 PM
DOES IT LOOK LIKE IM SMILING? :mad:
Oh my goodness! I hope your not serious

BluesClues
08-31-2006, 02:56 PM
Ok so I'm pissed off now!!!! I don't appreciate being called a racist when I'm clearly not. I don't understand why I have to be so mad like everyone else. Aren't I allowed to feel different about certain things? I have not had to flat out deal with racism except for once so I have not been scarred like everyone else. I still love everyone like GOD says to. I also don't understand why is it I'm racist because I like white boys? That's fucking stupid to me! I hate being called names especially when it doesn't fit the description of who I am!

BTEC
08-31-2006, 02:59 PM
BUT IM SAYING THOUGH, Y U GETTING SO MAD? IF U KNOW WHO U ARE, AND KNOW WHAT U BLIEVE IN THEN FINE, DNT WORRY BOUT IT. IT DOESNT EVEN MATTER THAT OTHER PPL THINK UR RACIST.

hemi
08-31-2006, 03:01 PM
I'm other people, and I don't think she's a racist...

BluesClues
08-31-2006, 03:04 PM
BUT IM SAYING THOUGH, Y U GETTING SO MAD? IF U KNOW WHO U ARE, AND KNOW WHAT U BLIEVE IN THEN FINE, DNT WORRY BOUT IT. IT DOESNT EVEN MATTER THAT OTHER PPL THINK UR RACIST.
It does matter when my boyfriend keeps telling me I am when I'm not! What do I look like being racist against my own kind? Have you ever seen me act differently towards black people? You have no evidence to support your case! So stop saying it!

BTEC
08-31-2006, 03:04 PM
I'm other people, and I don't think she's a racist...
ARE U WHITE, BLACK, HISPANIC, ASAIN, OR OTHER?

BTEC
08-31-2006, 03:05 PM
It does matter when my boyfriend keeps telling me I am when I'm not! What do I look like being racist against my own kind? Have you ever seen me act differently towards black people? You have no evidence to support your case! So stop saying it!
WHAT DID I SAY?

Tracy
08-31-2006, 03:07 PM
It does matter when my boyfriend keeps telling me I am when I'm not! What do I look like being racist against my own kind? Have you ever seen me act differently towards black people? You have no evidence to support your case! So stop saying it!

Girl, fuck him! Beat his ass when you get home! That's what I would do if I were you. :boxing:

I don't think your racists. You don't have to act a certain way to be a certain color.

In jamaica they don't even know what racism is. They have asian jamaicans that have a jamaican accents. They don't know the difference cuz they weren't taught that way!

BluesClues
08-31-2006, 03:09 PM
WHAT DID I SAY?
Refer to post #109

BTEC
08-31-2006, 03:09 PM
Girl, fuck him! Beat his ass when you get home! That's what I would do if I were you. :boxing:

I don't think your racists. You don't have to act a certain way to be a certain color.

In jamaica they don't even know what racism is. They have asian jamaicans that have a jamaican accents. They don't know the difference cuz they weren't taught that way!
LOL!!! U WOULDNT DO SHIT BUT GET FOLDED UP LIKE WET PAPER BAG BC IM SO DANGEROUS.

BTEC
08-31-2006, 03:10 PM
Refer to post #109
ID RATHER NOT. BUT NE WAY. I DONE IN HERE FOR NOW

BluesClues
08-31-2006, 03:10 PM
Girl, fuck him! Beat his ass when you get home! That's what I would do if I were you. :boxing:

I don't think your racists. You don't have to act a certain way to be a certain color.

In jamaica they don't even know what racism is. They have asian jamaicans that have a jamaican accents. They don't know the difference cuz they weren't taught that way!
I grew up loving everyone. My mom is racist against whites but I choose to be different. She accepts me for who I am although she doesn't understand me

BTEC
08-31-2006, 03:11 PM
I grew up loving everyone. My mom is racist against whites but I choose to be different. She accepts me for who I am although she doesn't understand me
UR MOM IS RACIST, SHE TALKED TO MANNY BUT SHE DNT LIKE ME. ITS CAUSE IM AN OLD BLACK MAN.

BluesClues
08-31-2006, 03:12 PM
ID RATHER NOT. BUT NE WAY. I DONE IN HERE FOR NOW
Hate to admit when you are wrong but whatever that's a guy's ego I guess :dunno:

BluesClues
08-31-2006, 03:19 PM
UR MOM IS RACIST, SHE TALKED TO MANNY BUT SHE DNT LIKE ME. ITS CAUSE IM AN OLD BLACK MAN.
I told you momma is just weird. She may have just been in a good mood that day because it was Thanksgiving. At least she has paid you for yard work. I don't think she would ever have asked Manuel to do anything that had something to with the house

Tracy
08-31-2006, 03:23 PM
now kiss and make up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BTEC
08-31-2006, 03:24 PM
I told you momma is just weird. She may have just been in a good mood that day because it was Thanksgiving. At least she has paid you for yard work. I don't think she would ever have asked Manuel to do anything that had something to with the house
U CANT PUT RACIST OFF AS JUST WIERD, WHAT KINDA SHIT IS THAT?

SO WAS HE TOO GOOD TO DO WRK AROUND YAWL HOUSE OR SOMETHING?

BTEC
08-31-2006, 03:24 PM
now kiss and make up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
STAY OUTTA THE WAY TRACY, IS GOING DWN. LIVE!!!

BluesClues
08-31-2006, 04:09 PM
U CANT PUT RACIST OFF AS JUST WIERD, WHAT KINDA SHIT IS THAT?

SO WAS HE TOO GOOD TO DO WRK AROUND YAWL HOUSE OR SOMETHING?
Let it go! It ain't even that sirius:no:
You just want to use the race card:yes:

BTEC
08-31-2006, 04:10 PM
Let it go! It ain't even that sirius:no:
You just want to use the race card:yes:
AHEM!!!!! STIZZY STAMP

BluesClues
08-31-2006, 04:11 PM
AHEM!!!!! STIZZY STAMP
Stizzy my mutha fuckin' ass!!!!

BTEC
08-31-2006, 04:21 PM
Stizzy my mutha fuckin' ass!!!!
STICK U IN THE WHAT?!! :eek:

BluesClues
08-31-2006, 04:23 PM
STICK U IN THE WHAT?!! :eek:
I didn't even say that shawty. Get yo mind out the gutta

BTEC
08-31-2006, 04:25 PM
I didn't even say that shawty. Get yo mind out the gutta
NOPE, I AINT GONNA DO IT. :tongue1:

BluesClues
08-31-2006, 04:26 PM
NOPE, I AINT GONNA DO IT. :tongue1:
Well don't get mad when you get a stiffy and ain't shit you can do about it

BTEC
08-31-2006, 04:32 PM
Well don't get mad when you get a stiffy and ain't shit you can do about it
NO COMMENT. WELL ON 2ND THOUGHT, :2up: .

Hulud
08-31-2006, 04:32 PM
haha what are yout talkin about? i know who i am and what i believe it aint racism.
then what do you call treating people differently based on race?

BTEC
08-31-2006, 04:34 PM
then what do you call treating people differently based on race?
MAKING SURE MUTHAFUKUHS KNOW WHERE THEIR PLACE IS. SO DNT STEP OUTTA LINE BC U TOO CAN GET UR ASS KICKED LIEK THE ROMANS.

Hulud
08-31-2006, 04:37 PM
MAKING SURE MUTHAFUKUHS KNOW WHERE THEIR PLACE IS. SO DNT STEP OUTTA LINE BC U TOO CAN GET UR ASS KICKED LIEK THE ROMANS.
ok racist :lmfao:

BluesClues
08-31-2006, 04:38 PM
NO COMMENT. WELL ON 2ND THOUGHT, :2up: .
What is up with all these fuck yous today? What did I ever do to you?:cry:

BTEC
08-31-2006, 04:57 PM
What is up with all these fuck yous today? What did I ever do to you?:cry:
I ASK THE QUESTIONS ROUND HERE.

BluesClues
08-31-2006, 05:01 PM
I ASK THE QUESTIONS ROUND HERE.
No I do damnit! You can't boss me around :no:

Tasuki_Civic
09-01-2006, 07:51 PM
then what do you call treating people differently based on race?


of course you dummy. each person in this world is supposed to respect anothers religion or race. that goes for physically like shaking hands or bowing. verbally like saying thank you or no thank you. if someone calls me a nigga that means they have no respect for me as a person no matter what race. and yes i would be even more angry if its someone who is not concidered black america. because of the simple fact that they are adults and they should no better....they know the concept of respecting one as a person. its just plain fuckin stupid to have anything else as an excuse. regardless if your sheltered or not!







p.s
im not angry so dont read that the wrong way. im very light hearted about this sublect but i want to be as real as possible because i want to talk about what i see and i want to know what others see as well.

Tasuki_Civic
09-01-2006, 07:57 PM
[QUOTE=Tasuki_Civic]of course you dummy. each person in this world is supposed to respect anothers religion or race. that goes for physically like shaking hands or bowing. verbally like saying thank you or no thank you. if someone calls me a nigga that means they have no respect for me as a person no matter what race. and yes i would be even more angry if its someone who is not concidered black america. because of the simple fact that they are adults and they should no better....they know the concept of respecting one as a person. its just plain fuckin stupid to have anything else as an excuse. regardless if your sheltered or not!QUOTE]


but dont get it twisted like i said i dont like when others of black america use this and abuse it as if its a fade. in some cases in which pple should understand its almost like dry/sick humor between black america.

like the example i said with friends how they can only joke amongs themselves because they know each other. but if someone outsided the circle jokes like that with them not only is it not funny but its disrespectful and someone will get upset.

Tasuki_Civic
09-01-2006, 08:00 PM
Girl, fuck him! Beat his ass when you get home! That's what I would do if I were you. :boxing:

I don't think your racists. You don't have to act a certain way to be a certain color.

In jamaica they don't even know what racism is. They have asian jamaicans that have a jamaican accents. They don't know the difference cuz they weren't taught that way!


nah tracy thats....they dont care too much as america. but believe me thats not what i heard. i have a good amount of freinds from islands. the know how america works

Tasuki_Civic
09-01-2006, 08:15 PM
My dad is really racists. Some of you have probably met him actually. He comes to the dyno days and drift days sometimes. He's real cool in general...he's just a racists. I guess that's an oxymoron. I hate that part about him. When I was growing up he never used the N word. But for some reason I always knew not to bring a black person home. It was like an unsaid thing. I mean I guess he had said it at some point...but nothing that I remember specifically. All of that being said, I have 3 sisters....they all date black men ONLY :) My sister Tammy actually has a baby by a black man. I always tell my dad this is what he gets for being so against black people. Once he figured out the next oldest daughter was dating black men...he started making a big deal out of it. He actually kicked her out of the house when she was 17...the last month of her senior yar. She never graduated because of it. We didn't speak for 4 years over that situation. It's wierd cuz when black peole are around, he will definately talk to them and be nice....but he doesn't want them in his house. He says he was raised that way. Well, I was raised that way and I fucking hate it. I hate it most for my sisters because during the holidays I can bring my BF, but they can't bring theirs. So we always have an after dad's house party for all of their BF's at my house :D

When I moved from MIA to Ocala, I had white people be racists against me..I guess it was against me and my friends really. Comming from MIA, baggy clothes and big hoop earing with you name in them and bandannas in your hair were the style. In Ocala it was boots and wranglers....blah! I kind of just naturally gravitated to the black crowd in school. I ended up getting expelled my junior year and expelled 20 smething times my senior year for fighting....girls that would call me a nigger lover ;)

At the first Drift Fury (Marlon was there with me), I saw this big cloud of burn out smoke comming from where the bikers were all lined up. So I ran over there to tell them to stop. I just in general yelled at everyone. It just so happened that they were all black. I couldn't see that origionally. There were so many people there I could just see the smoke throught he crowd. They all started yelling at me telling me I was only upset cuz they were black. I couldn't at that point explian to them that that's not the reason at all. I mean, I have black people in my family. They were all ganging up on me about it. I hate that they pulled the race card on me. It hurt my feelings. It hurt my feelings that I couldn't make them understand that wasn't the reason at all. I would have yelled if it was a group of white people. Luckily Marlon was there to stand up for me as good as he could.

Sometimes I feel a little uncomfortable around black people and I feel myself acting different to prove that I'm not racists. Sometimes I say thing that are a little off and I realize after I say them that it came out wierd. Then i find myself trying to expain so they understand and that only makes it worse :) I like hanging out with black people and I want to be accepted by them. I know I shouldn't try to act a certain way, but sometimes I do unknowingly.

This is all just jibber jabber that I'm writing. I really just want to say that I wish racism wasn't such a factor in day to day life. I wish it never happened. I wish we could just make it go away. I'm sorry for anyone that has experienced it on any level. It just sucks.


Tracy im sorry you went thru all that. lol ive got some wild stories for you....... the whole thing with my dad as well. he was like that until me and my sister were dating white guys from all kinds of countries. and the funny thing was he had to get used to it because every guy we dated had to come to the house and meet my parents so they know who we went out with. and between my sister and i there alot of pple cuz we like to do different things and go different place. kinda say we a are people persons. but now ( which it took years) he finnaly let his guard down he doesnt care who i date. he still has his :2cents: but hes ok with it.

the whole thing about chilling with black people...the best way to get in with them is to be yourself. One thing about black people that i know of if dont front and act like your fake. if your from valley highg and like 90210 or gothic chick from chi-town so be it. just be you and everything is fine.

it took a while for me to get used to chillin with aa bunch of white people and there is like to black people in tha whole crowd including me. lol the reason is because of what my family has told me and things i experienced. like you know how some women feel like the need to hold their purse when a black man comes around? i used to feel that way about white people because of things people told me. i didnt like that cuz i didnt know how to act or know what to say. what to talk about. so i thats when i started chillin with everyone.

most of my friends say this is sad but they know that 98% of my family was raised in tha hood except for me. and i told them i feel at home unless i see majority white and mixed people or just a mixed crowd cuz thats how i was raised. all black i love it cuz thats my people but most of the shit i like they dont really care for ( most get down with shit i like ) but not all. all white or any other race? same thing. so i love the mixed crowd cuz i feel like thats where i belong

Hulud
09-01-2006, 11:32 PM
of course you dummy. each person in this world is supposed to respect anothers religion or race. that goes for physically like shaking hands or bowing. verbally like saying thank you or no thank you. if someone calls me a nigga that means they have no respect for me as a person no matter what race. and yes i would be even more angry if its someone who is not concidered black america. because of the simple fact that they are adults and they should no better....they know the concept of respecting one as a person. its just plain fuckin stupid to have anything else as an excuse. regardless if your sheltered or not!

my whole point to saying that yo ua somewhat racist is the whole fact that you are saying that a white person saying "whats up my nigga" and a black person saying the same thing will get a different response from you.

which in turn if you treat people different based on race is racism







p.s
im not angry so dont read that the wrong way. im very light hearted about this sublect but i want to be as real as possible because i want to talk about what i see and i want to know what others see as well.
as am i, im glad to see no ones getting angry over this

ShooterMcGavin
09-02-2006, 01:14 AM
^^^ FUCK YOU HULUD I'M FUCKING ANGRY!! :2up: :mad: :cussing:

























































































ok all done, y'all carry on...:lmao:

Tasuki_Civic
09-02-2006, 01:22 PM
my whole point to saying that yo ua somewhat racist is the whole fact that you are saying that a white person saying "whats up my nigga" and a black person saying the same thing will get a different response from you.

which in turn if you treat people different based on race is racism


you have the wrong idea. and it seems out of the examples i gave you ...you fail to realize what i mean. i dont know how many other ways to explain.

i am not racist not even a little. i just dont think i should make an excuse why its ok for any race especially white americans to call me that. white america knows what things to say and what not to say so they wont get themselves in trouble with certain things. thats what has been learned through out all these years. ( meaning being careful what to say to whom) all americans "PERIOD" knows that its not a word to just abuse. but its done anyway like its part of the 2000's. and thats what im trying to say as well in this thread is that word shouldnt be exceptable. its almost an everyday word for america that they except it on tv now. like its nothing.

how odd is that you cant show tits or a dick on tv but you can say something so offensive as nigger on national tv. i think thats ass backwards. you can say all these curse words but you cant say FUCK. but its ok to say NIGGER......doesnt that make you question about america as whole.

there is a whole meaning behind that word. a life changing meaning. people died many deaths because of that word....but yet it meant to be taken lightly? i think its a fuckin shame to be honest.

Hulud
09-02-2006, 05:55 PM
you have the wrong idea. and it seems out of the examples i gave you ...you fail to realize what i mean. i dont know how many other ways to explain.

i am not racist not even a little. i just dont think i should make an excuse why its ok for any race especially white americans to call me that. white america knows what things to say and what not to say so they wont get themselves in trouble with certain things. thats what has been learned through out all these years. ( meaning being careful what to say to whom) all americans "PERIOD" knows that its not a word to just abuse. but its done anyway like its part of the 2000's. and thats what im trying to say as well in this thread is that word shouldnt be exceptable. its almost an everyday word for america that they except it on tv now. like its nothing.

how odd is that you cant show tits or a dick on tv but you can say something so offensive as nigger on national tv. i think thats ass backwards. you can say all these curse words but you cant say FUCK. but its ok to say NIGGER......doesnt that make you question about america as whole.

there is a whole meaning behind that word. a life changing meaning. people died many deaths because of that word....but yet it meant to be taken lightly? i think its a fuckin shame to be honest.
i agree with you on not using that word.

but i think you are missing something very clear about what i am saying.

you just said in the last post about "white" america, cmon if your gonna segregate america wtf is that?

also my whole point is (i have said this atleast 5 times now) that i said you might be racist because you said you would react differently to a white person saying N and a black person saying N

if your not racist AT ALL then you should react the same no matter what they look like :2cents:

you keep trying to tell me your not racist yet you wont explain why you would react differently to a black person sayin it and a white person, your avoiding my whole point

ahmonrah
09-03-2006, 03:17 AM
this is bullshit. i can't even post a long post. damn thing times out

ahmonrah
09-03-2006, 03:18 AM
i'm trying to get into the debate but i'm limited to little sentences like this.....imma blow up my router.

ahmonrah
09-03-2006, 03:20 AM
helps for my post count though.

bigdare23
09-03-2006, 03:37 AM
i agree with you on not using that word.

but i think you are missing something very clear about what i am saying.

you just said in the last post about "white" america, cmon if your gonna segregate america wtf is that?

also my whole point is (i have said this atleast 5 times now) that i said you might be racist because you said you would react differently to a white person saying N and a black person saying N

if your not racist AT ALL then you should react the same no matter what they look like :2cents:

you keep trying to tell me your not racist yet you wont explain why you would react differently to a black person sayin it and a white person, your avoiding my whole point

It's kinda hard to let a white person call you something that their ancestors used to disrespect your race in the past (and present).

BluesClues
09-03-2006, 03:49 AM
What up folk? Ummmm.... can't really think of what else to say about this topic except for "I hat racism not people."

BlkCD5
09-03-2006, 04:12 AM
Sad enough to say, fighting racism is a never ending battle. imo, it takes something extreme to change that mindset. The good thing is that some kids; despite their parents being racist, are breaking the chain. Ignorance to some individuals will continue to be bliss. I never really experienced Racism until i came down here. Even today, a black person can succeed and have nice possessions, but their is a certain mindset. He must of done something illegal to get that. Where I live, its predominantly white upscale neighborhood. I can't remember how many countless times i've been pulled over and interrogated by the police. One instance a cop followed me to my own house and ask, "what are you doing here." Needless to say, I made him feel like an idiot when i was done talking to him. Sometimes i can't even walk past a car with a white person in it without them locking their doors. Driving through a friend's upscale neighborhood is the same thing. They either think im there to rob homes or sell drugs. I had a hard time adjusting because the blacks at my school thought i was a sellout. Some whites just didn't want to associate with me. I could'nt help it if i didn't speak or act the way Blacks there did. Instead of unifying, blacks are seperating themselves further. No wonder why Bill Cosby stopped cracking jokes and now is so tense on the issues of Black youth.

Hulud
09-03-2006, 11:53 AM
Sad enough to say, fighting racism is a never ending battle. imo, it takes something extreme to change that mindset. The good thing is that some kids; despite their parents being racist, are breaking the chain. Ignorance to some individuals will continue to be bliss. I never really experienced Racism until i came down here. Even today, a black person can succeed and have nice possessions, but their is a certain mindset. He must of done something illegal to get that. Where I live, its predominantly white upscale neighborhood. I can't remember how many countless times i've been pulled over and interrogated by the police. One instance a cop followed me to my own house and ask, "what are you doing here." Needless to say, I made him feel like an idiot when i was done talking to him. Sometimes i can't even walk past a car with a white person in it without them locking their doors. Driving through a friend's upscale neighborhood is the same thing. They either think im there to rob homes or sell drugs. I had a hard time adjusting because the blacks at my school thought i was a sellout. Some whites just didn't want to associate with me. I could'nt help it if i didn't speak or act the way Blacks there did. Instead of unifying, blacks are seperating themselves further. No wonder why Bill Cosby stopped cracking jokes and now is so tense on the issues of Black youth.
i understand what your saying for the most part. just the reference in bold is where im confused..... you know what they think? i mean did they tell you that or are you assuming that by the looks on their faces?

Hulud
09-03-2006, 11:53 AM
It's kinda hard to let a white person call you something that their ancestors used to disrespect your race in the past (and present).
but its more justifiable if a black person says it?

ShooterMcGavin
09-03-2006, 12:43 PM
^^^sure in a way, think of it this way. it's kinda fucked up if u or i call someone who's retarded a fuckin retard, but that's how they refer to themselves, can u really argue w/that?

Hulud
09-03-2006, 01:08 PM
^^^sure in a way, think of it this way. it's kinda fucked up if u or i call someone who's retarded a fuckin retard, but that's how they refer to themselves, can u really argue w/that?
im going to assume you dont mean this, but this is how it sounds, that you are saying taht black people are N?

ShooterMcGavin
09-03-2006, 03:06 PM
nope, not what i was saying at all, but wasn't the discussion here about how it's right or wrong for black or nonblack ppl to use the term "nigga"? my example was just to illustrate that if they should so choose to refer to each other as that, it's their prerogative.

Hulud
09-03-2006, 04:30 PM
nope, not what i was saying at all, but wasn't the discussion here about how it's right or wrong for black or nonblack ppl to use the term "nigga"? my example was just to illustrate that if they should so choose to refer to each other as that, it's their prerogative.
well i not discussing that with her, what i am discussing is the fact that she said she would react differently to a white person saying it a black person.

which is racism, treating people differently based on race, i mean i know where the word came from and all, thats why i dont use it. but if its ok for certain people to use it around her but not others, based on race, thats not right is my whole point

Tasuki_Civic
09-03-2006, 05:10 PM
nope, not what i was saying at all, but wasn't the discussion here about how it's right or wrong for black or nonblack ppl to use the term "nigga"? my example was just to illustrate that if they should so choose to refer to each other as that, it's their prerogative.

thats all im tryin to say. but on the flip side i still dont respect it or be introduced as if im someones nigga or am one ...period

its not word to be takin lightly. lol i was at a party last nigt and guy was using the word like it was nothing and it meant nothign to him. i couldnt stand to stay in his presence because of it. everyone around me seemed like it was ok. so i just decieded to remove myself from where i was at. since it seem i was the one to oppose of. ( plus last night wasnt a good nite for me to project any disagreement with someone because of my own personal reason so the situatioin would have gotten out of hand if i had said something) so i left. but after a while the guy came to me and apologize for using it so casualy ...in a way i respected because he didnt have to do that. but i didnt in a way because he continued to say it after we talked about it.

i can take a joke and when people talk about cracker this and nigga that. by all means my family talks that way. its just a time and place when it is used and to whom. is all im stating and it shouldnt be an everyday word like hello.

Tasuki_Civic
09-03-2006, 05:14 PM
well i not discussing that with her, what i am discussing is the fact that she said she would react differently to a white person saying it a black person.

which is racism, treating people differently based on race, i mean i know where the word came from and all, thats why i dont use it. but if its ok for certain people to use it around her but not others, based on race, thats not right is my whole point


how many times have i stated that i said i feel like its disrespect from any race. i dont know what answer your looking for but i dont like to be called someones nigga or a nigga at all. but white people from what i know are bg on respect and how things should be and if thats true then you should know better than to call a black person a nigga to them in their face so openly like your saying hello and you dont even know them personaly.

and yea i said openly cause everything is a secret when it comes to hatered in any race.

Hulud
09-03-2006, 05:19 PM
how many times have i stated that i said i feel like its disrespect from any race.
i honestly dont know how to make it any more clear for you to see what i am saying.

ok heres a run down

you said you would react differently if a black person called you that as compared to a white person (i know you said you dont like it either way)

what i said in response to that was if you react differently to two people (based on race) calling you N, then its racism

BlkCD5
09-03-2006, 05:22 PM
Originally posted by Hulud
i understand what your saying for the most part. just the reference in bold is where im confused..... you know what they think? i mean did they tell you that or are you assuming that by the looks on their faces?


The officer, which happens to know me from past stops :o pulled me over that day and told me the neighbors called in a suspicous car, which happened to be me. What I don't get is that i've been in the neighborhood multiple times before. One day as i did roll by with the windows down, the people there gave me a weird look. I guess i look shady like that.

Hulud
09-03-2006, 05:24 PM
The officer, which happens to know me from past stops :o pulled me over that day and told me the neighbors called in a suspicous car, which happened to be me. What I don't get is that i've been in the neighborhood multiple times before. One day as i did roll by with the windows down, the people there gave me a weird look. I guess i look shady like that.
o ok

Tasuki_Civic
09-03-2006, 05:39 PM
i honestly dont know how to make it any more clear for you to see what i am saying.

ok heres a run down

you said you would react differently if a black person called you that as compared to a white person (i know you said you dont like it either way)

what i said in response to that was if you react differently to two people (based on race) calling you N, then its racism

whatever dude...you seem as if your stuck on this and no matter how i expalin it you dont get it.

i know what your trying to say and i understand that but you dont see it from my point of view. its either your fuckin with me or you realyl dont know. either way. i dont know how else to say it so i have to leave it alone with you. if you think i am. by all means think what you will. no can change the mind of another unless one excepts and understands.

ive never been a problem to any race and never will. so people who know me know that i am not. but if thats how you feel. then so be it. its like talkin to a wall when it comes to you. no hate or nuthin we jsut dont see eye to eye on it. but put it like this if dated you and we joked about me callin you a cracker and you callin me a nigga at times but then your brother or mom says it to me i would be offened. jus like i would be a black family. the only difference is that white people should know better and any other race cuz its not meant to be a nice word. you just dont play like that.


remember the old saying " if your friends ask you to jump over the bridge with them would you do it?

just because black people say it to each other in a certain manner doesnt mean that its ok for everyone else to say it likes its ok

Hulud
09-03-2006, 06:10 PM
whatever dude...you seem as if your stuck on this and no matter how i expalin it you dont get it.
no, your just not explaining it at all, youve been trying to say how your not racist, you did a better job this time explaining what you mean though

ive never been a problem to any race and never will. so people who know me know that i am not. but if thats how you feel. then so be it. its like talkin to a wall when it comes to you. no hate or nuthin we jsut dont see eye to eye on it. but put it like this if dated you and we joked about me callin you a cracker and you callin me a nigga at times but then your brother or mom says it to me i would be offened. jus like i would be a black family. the only difference is that white people should know better and any other race cuz its not meant to be a nice word. you just dont play like that.


remember the old saying " if your friends ask you to jump over the bridge with them would you do it?

just because black people say it to each other in a certain manner doesnt mean that its ok for everyone else to say it likes its ok
i know what your saying, but it just doesnt really make any sense.

cause if its such an offensive word then no one should be saying it at all :2cents:

i mean i personally dont care if black people use the word or not, im just trying to understand why its "ok" to some people for blacks to say it and not whites. from what i can tell from this thread its all because the white racists in the south used it as a derrogatory (sp?) term for black people. so i can kinda see how its more ok for non-whites to say it, but the logic just doesnt completely make sense to me.

i mean i hear black people still saying they want equality, but i mean they cant separate their culture from the rest of america and still get equality. i mean if the term is so offensive then why use it at all?

but anyways, my comment in reference to you tasuki, is that you said you would react differently to people based on race when using that word, but i feel that if anyone uses that word they should get the same reaction from you, but thats just me

Tasuki_Civic
09-13-2006, 07:44 PM
no, your just not explaining it at all, youve been trying to say how your not racist, you did a better job this time explaining what you mean though

i know what your saying, but it just doesnt really make any sense.

cause if its such an offensive word then no one should be saying it at all :2cents:

i mean i personally dont care if black people use the word or not, im just trying to understand why its "ok" to some people for blacks to say it and not whites. from what i can tell from this thread its all because the white racists in the south used it as a derrogatory (sp?) term for black people. so i can kinda see how its more ok for non-whites to say it, but the logic just doesnt completely make sense to me.

i mean i hear black people still saying they want equality, but i mean they cant separate their culture from the rest of america and still get equality. i mean if the term is so offensive then why use it at all?

but anyways, my comment in reference to you tasuki, is that you said you would react differently to people based on race when using that word, but i feel that if anyone uses that word they should get the same reaction from you, but thats just me


everything you wrote in this post is exactly why i wrote my thread. becaue people of other races dont understnad and because they dont understand they either disregard it or they try to involve themselves in something they have no clue about. thats the problem. theres much more to it. but you have proved what im talkin about. i dont think your a bad person or every white person or person(s) who are non-black. its just people dont care to understnad or respect things anymore.

even black america as wel. they think things are ok when it isnt. the same things are going on now just like back then. the only difference about it is that people who supposrt racism are not so up and forward with it. and if they are that means you know your in the south. thats it. its everywhere in every country. people out side this country feed their minds of what america gives. and they see commercial shit instead of tha whats really goin on.

its not just a word or phrase. alot of white people think that black america or non-black america use the word cracker and all that other stuff like its ok. .

the people i know! they dont use it to say a word they use it because they mean what they say or call it how they see it or they are just plain fuckin rude. i dont think none of it is right. none of it.

Hulud
09-13-2006, 09:09 PM
you still avoid my whole point of making a comment in this thread

i like how every post you make is just saying that people should use that word and that other races dont understand your race :rolleyes:

im gonna say this one more time, and lets see if you will actually come up with a response to it.

if your going to act differently to people saying that word based on race, then its racism.

your sitting here complaining about racism and then on the other hand are partaking in it yourself.

i understand how you feel on that word, i feel the same, no one should use that word because of how offensive it is. but if people are gonna react differently based on the color of ones skin when using the word, thats fucked up.


what you said earlier was that you would react differently to say me for instance just coming up to you and say it; as compared to some random black guy saying it to you. my guess would be because i am white, yet none of my ancestors had slaves, none of my relatives or ancestors were racists, yet your generalizing because im white its even more wrong to use that word than if i was black.

Jaimecbr900
09-14-2006, 12:00 AM
I totally agree with Blues, Hemi, and Hulud (yeah, yeah even Hulud :D ).

You can't have it both ways. You can't complain or try to explain about how people are racist towards you when in the next sentence you admit that YOU do the exact same thing. That's the biggest oxymoron in the world.

So let me get this straight:

You are trying to get a conversation started about how "racism is in America" today and how people don't understand "your race" with comments such as "white people should know not to say something like that to me" and "I don't like it if a Black man says it but a whole lot MORE if a White man does".....That's crap.

Blues is exactly right. YOU do have a chip on your shoulder. Always have. You want to engage people in intelligent conversation, yet you can't even type a legible sentence. You want people to take you seriously, but you make oxymoronic comments and then try and justify them by saying "it's YOU that doesn't want to understand..." It's not US that don't WANT to understand....it's that it's almost impossible to follow your thought process.

You want people to take you seriously? Learn to communicate better without coming off like you have a chip on your shoulder all the time.

You want to have a debate about a subject? Understand that someone somewhere is going to disagree.....by definition that IS a debate.

You want to come across as someone that is NOT a racist? Don't make racist comments. "I would do this IF A WHITE PERSON did that but IF A BLACK PERSON does the SAME THING I will do something DIFFERENT" IS A RACIST COMMENT, period and end of discussion. YOU can argue it to death, but in all honesty it just makes you look even MORE racist and it digs your hole even deeper. IF you're not racist for real, then by definition you CAN'T treat people DIFFERENT based on their race. Look it up in the dang dictionary. I believe that is even the definition.

Bottomline is that this thread has shown exactly the opposite of you what you were trying in the first place.

How can you justify reverse racism by saying that "maybe they are doing it out of RETALIATION...."???? RETALIATION to what? What if a WHITE person calls you the N word out of RETALIATION to some Black person offending them back in '52???? Would that be OK? Is it alright for that person to take out their anger with you for something YOU didn't do? Explain how that makes logic sense to you.

Hulud
09-14-2006, 12:18 AM
I totally agree with Blues, Hemi, and Hulud (yeah, yeah even Hulud :D ).

i think hell froze over LOL

ok now im gonna read your post

Hulud
09-14-2006, 12:21 AM
I totally agree with Blues, Hemi, and Hulud (yeah, yeah even Hulud :D ).

You can't have it both ways. You can't complain or try to explain about how people are racist towards you when in the next sentence you admit that YOU do the exact same thing. That's the biggest oxymoron in the world.

So let me get this straight:

You are trying to get a conversation started about how "racism is in America" today and how people don't understand "your race" with comments such as "white people should know not to say something like that to me" and "I don't like it if a Black man says it but a whole lot MORE if a White man does".....That's crap.

Blues is exactly right. YOU do have a chip on your shoulder. Always have. You want to engage people in intelligent conversation, yet you can't even type a legible sentence. You want people to take you seriously, but you make oxymoronic comments and then try and justify them by saying "it's YOU that doesn't want to understand..." It's not US that don't WANT to understand....it's that it's almost impossible to follow your thought process.

You want people to take you seriously? Learn to communicate better without coming off like you have a chip on your shoulder all the time.

You want to have a debate about a subject? Understand that someone somewhere is going to disagree.....by definition that IS a debate.

You want to come across as someone that is NOT a racist? Don't make racist comments. "I would do this IF A WHITE PERSON did that but IF A BLACK PERSON does the SAME THING I will do something DIFFERENT" IS A RACIST COMMENT, period and end of discussion. YOU can argue it to death, but in all honesty it just makes you look even MORE racist and it digs your hole even deeper. IF you're not racist for real, then by definition you CAN'T treat people DIFFERENT based on their race. Look it up in the dang dictionary. I believe that is even the definition.

Bottomline is that this thread has shown exactly the opposite of you what you were trying in the first place.

How can you justify reverse racism by saying that "maybe they are doing it out of RETALIATION...."???? RETALIATION to what? What if a WHITE person calls you the N word out of RETALIATION to some Black person offending them back in '52???? Would that be OK? Is it alright for that person to take out their anger with you for something YOU didn't do? Explain how that makes logic sense to you.
how right you are :goodjob: +1
***edit***

owned: You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Jaimecbr900 again.

BluesClues
09-14-2006, 10:24 AM
Jaimecbr900 Hit it right on the head!!! I don't think I could have said it any better myself

Jaimecbr900
09-14-2006, 11:04 AM
Jaimecbr900 Hit it right on the head!!! I don't think I could have said it any better myself

Thank you. :goodjob:

TIGERJC
09-14-2006, 01:24 PM
JAIME IS RIGHT

{X}Echo419
09-14-2006, 03:17 PM
white person walks through Compton, might get shot

black person walks through St.Ives everyone thinks he plays for the Falcons :2cents:

Hulud
09-14-2006, 05:06 PM
JAIME IS RIGHT
he said what ive been saying the whole thread lol

Tracy
09-14-2006, 05:17 PM
Not sure why the other thread go tclosed. But this is what I had to say about it...
I don't think that ALL white people should be held accountable for something that our ancestors did. Racist should be held accountable for their actions today. If we keep bringing up the past it and waving it around, we will never heal. I'm not saying to forget about it and not educate our children about what happened. I'm just saying, it's shouldn't be used as an excuse.

That being said, I don't think there should be BET or WET. I don't think there should be "white pride" or "black pride" T-shirts......or any of that good stuff.

All of the people who fought for equality fought for just that....equality. If you have a BET then that brings the reason for a WET. If you don't understand that then you don't understand what equality is.

–noun, plural -ties. 1. the state or quality of being equal; correspondence in quantity, degree, value, rank, or ability.

That's means that what is good for one is good for another. People like MLK fought against segregation. He is highly regarded and, in fact, has his own day (which is awesome!). If you truly believe in what he and others like him said then it's not fair to segrate anyone by any means.

Now all of that being said, you can say the same thing about genders...it's a debate that can go in all kinds of directions. But to me fair is fair. I understand what black people say when they say every month is white history month...every channel is WET...so on and so forth. I just don't think that 2 wrongs make a right. If you believe in what the civils rights activists fought for then you should have some integrity in what you are supposed to believe in and think that it's all wrong. That's how I feel. I don't want a WET. I don't want a special scholarship for white people. I don't want anyone to say white pride. I also don't think it's right for the other side. MY .02.

Hulud
09-14-2006, 05:18 PM
the other thread was locked A) myspace bullshit B) basically the same as this thread

Tracy
09-14-2006, 05:21 PM
the other thread was locked A) myspace bullshit B) basically the same as this thread

that's what I figured.

BluesClues
09-14-2006, 05:21 PM
I am pretty much done with debating this topic. The fact is there are still people out there with their own views and they will continue to think the way they do no matter what anyone says. I can only try to do right on my end and if you don't like it, you can pour kerosine (sp?) on your body and light yourself on fire for all that I care
That is all

Hulud
09-14-2006, 05:24 PM
that's what I figured.
exactly, i mean if you want to discuss what he had in the other thread then have him post it in here, we dont need multiple posts about the same topic

nah mean? (©KevyKev)

Tracy
09-14-2006, 05:29 PM
exactly, i mean if you want to discuss what he had in the other thread then have him post it in here, we dont need multiple posts about the same topic

nah mean? (©KevyKev) :lmfao:

Hulud
09-14-2006, 05:34 PM
:lmfao:
lol you like that?


i was going to spell it out like "know what i mean" but that sounded so lame

Tasuki_Civic
09-14-2006, 05:47 PM
Not sure why the other thread go tclosed. But this is what I had to say about it...
I don't think that ALL white people should be held accountable for something that our ancestors did. Racist should be held accountable for their actions today. If we keep bringing up the past it and waving it around, we will never heal. I'm not saying to forget about it and not educate our children about what happened. I'm just saying, it's shouldn't be used as an excuse.
written by TS- the past has an effect on the future the present is not relivant
That being said, I don't think there should be BET or WET. I don't think there should be "white pride" or "black pride" T-shirts......or any of that good stuff.

written by TS- because of the mockery and put downs of everyday life. there is atleas a chance for people to take black america seriously
All of the people who fought for equality fought for just that....equality. If you have a BET then that brings the reason for a WET.
written by TS- to me i see that as childish ( if susie can do it why cant i?) same eaple goes with the word nigger
If you don't understand that then you don't understand what equality is.

–noun, plural -ties. 1. the state or quality of being equal; correspondence in quantity, degree, value, rank, or ability.

That's means that what is good for one is good for another. People like MLK fought against segregation. He is highly regarded and, in fact, has his own day (which is awesome!). If you truly believe in what he and others like him said then it's not fair to segrate anyone by any means.

written bt TS- lol there is so much more than just MLK. he has done alot for THIS country but there are other who have done just the same and has not been acknowledged for their efforts and this day and age!

Now all of that being said, you can say the same thing about genders...it's a debate that can go in all kinds of directions. But to me fair is fair. I understand what black people say when they say every month is white history month...every channel is WET...so on and so forth. I just don't think that 2 wrongs make a right.
written by TS- the sad part is people see it in a negative way just like they think about "almost" every thing black america does.
If you believe in what the civils rights activists fought for then you should have some integrity in what you are supposed to believe in and think that it's all wrong. That's how I feel. I don't want a WET. I don't want a special scholarship for white people. I don't want anyone to say white pride. I also don't think it's right for the other side. MY .02.


:D i like your opinions. but im done this thread. not in an angry way but i just feel i have said my piece....i didnt make this thread to be understood i made it because i wanted to be heard. some listened and some didnt or it went rite over their head. its ok with me. we are all human and i wish one day equal

hemi
09-14-2006, 05:49 PM
I agree with Tracy 100%. I think that there should just be Spike, CNN, and the History channel. I don't wish to go waving flags, but I want it to be okay. I don't want to have White history months, white pride t-shirts, medalions with Germany on them. I don't want to be refferred to as a white American, just American. I only wanted to show that the balance is shifting past equal. I believe that we should all be treated the same. Not better, not worse.
Scholarships purely on MERIT
Jobs purely on SKILL
etc....
I just get tired of being pinned as a racist because I am not ashamed to be white. This whole thing stemmed from a friend of mine getting suspended. Someone called her a cracker, and she said it shouldn't be okay for you to call me a cracker if I can't call you a nigger. Both words only have meaning only if interpreted. Neither mean anything to me...

/rant

Hulud
09-14-2006, 06:06 PM
i find it humerous how the creator of this thread wants equality, yet treats people differently based on race.

and also segregates by saying "black" america

THERE IS NO BLACK AMERICA, THERE IS NO WHITE AMERICA

ITS AMERICA


you want to keep segregating, then there wont be equality :goodjob:

hemi
09-14-2006, 06:11 PM
Can't we all just get along?

Jaimecbr900
09-15-2006, 09:53 AM
i find it humerous how the creator of this thread wants equality, yet treats people differently based on race.

and also segregates by saying "black" america

THERE IS NO BLACK AMERICA, THERE IS NO WHITE AMERICA

ITS AMERICA


you want to keep segregating, then there wont be equality :goodjob:


Excellent point again. :goodjob:

Isn't that the beginning to the problem anyway?.....seeing things in COLOR rather than face value? It's ironic that some want equality yet want to label everything but don't want to be labeled themselves. How exactly does that work???? :thinking:

Hulud
09-15-2006, 05:21 PM
Excellent point again. :goodjob:

Isn't that the beginning to the problem anyway?.....seeing things in COLOR rather than face value? It's ironic that some want equality yet want to label everything but don't want to be labeled themselves. How exactly does that work???? :thinking:
i know man

TIGERJC
09-15-2006, 10:02 PM
tasuki_civic u should turn on the tv to 20/20, they are talking about stereotypes

TIGERJC
09-15-2006, 10:05 PM
he said what ive been saying the whole thread lol

aight u get a cookie too :goodjob:

Hulud
09-15-2006, 10:12 PM
tasuki_civic u should turn on the tv to 20/20, they are talking about stereotypes
lol

aight u get a cookie too :goodjob:
thank you i was hungry

quickdodge®
09-19-2006, 06:41 PM
I'm white and I have a black daughter. And an Asian son. Later, QD.

Hulud
09-19-2006, 09:23 PM
I'm white and I have a black daughter. And an Asian son. Later, QD.
time for the checklist