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4dmin
08-28-2006, 01:41 PM
I've posted this in a few other threads but I threw in prices w/ the top 54 rides on the list so you can see what the top rides are + best bang for buck ;)

Honestly my top picks are: Z06, Evo, STI, & R32...

- Z06 ranks 15 and for 65k you can't beat that the avg car in that range is well over 2x the price of the vette

- Evo only 6 secs behind the vette for 1/2 the price AMAZING!!!

- STI & R32 have very close times and are some of the cheapest rides in the Top 50

- Interesting the M3 runs same time as 350z and RX8 :yes:

- Oh ya honarble mention for the Porsche Caymen cheaper then the Z06, 4 secs slower, but is hot as shit :crazy:

:goodjob: :bump: :goodjob: :bump: :goodjob: :bump:

HalfBaked
08-28-2006, 01:42 PM
Top Gun is stupid.

They never drove a b13 se-r. :(

The Yousef
08-28-2006, 01:47 PM
...paulina

give me some server space...i have the last 5 seasons of Top Gear on my hard drive...and i have no more room left....lol

4dmin
08-28-2006, 01:48 PM
^ really... can you up them on cd/dvd for me i'll upload them and we can watch them on the server :D

ironchef
08-28-2006, 01:50 PM
The other question is which were tested in the dry and which in the wet? I think if it was an all wet or all dry list then the rankings would be different.

The Yousef
08-28-2006, 01:51 PM
^ really... can you up them on cd/dvd for me i'll upload them and we can watch them on the server :D

give me a DVD burner then i can burn'em for ya...lol

if not...i'll see if i have some blank CDs laying around i can burn'em for you....:goodjob:


bear in mind:

it's going to be a lot of bloody CDs...lol

Ran
08-28-2006, 01:53 PM
Top Gun is stupid.I thought it was an okay movie.

Brady
08-28-2006, 02:59 PM
hells yeah @ rx-8 :D

David88vert
08-28-2006, 08:39 PM
The Ariel is the biggest bang-for-the-buck. Cheaper than a Z06.....

ironchef
08-28-2006, 08:50 PM
The Ariel is the biggest bang-for-the-buck. Cheaper than a Z06.....Yea but its not very practical though lol. Great car though, practicalities aside.

SampaGuy
08-28-2006, 08:53 PM
911 GT3 slower than Cayman? :thinking:

JITB
08-28-2006, 09:20 PM
ford powered konigsegg #1...

Ruiner
08-28-2006, 10:52 PM
911 GT3 slower than Cayman? :thinking:

Long stories behind each. It's like with the 911 turbo. It was done in a VERY wet condition (I have the video to prove it). It was raining so hard that you could barely see. They said that the 911 turbo should be in the mid 120s on a dry day, but oh well (video to prove that as well).

You can and can't take those times seriously. If you want REAL times, look at the Nurburgring times.

Ruiner
08-28-2006, 10:53 PM
The other question is which were tested in the dry and which in the wet? I think if it was an all wet or all dry list then the rankings would be different.

The 911 turbo ran in the pouring down wet, although that board doesn't list it (odd, it used to and I have the video of the 911 turbo doing the test in the pouring down rain). That just goes to show you how the times can vary.

Ruiner
08-28-2006, 11:05 PM
Looks wet to me. Odd that they didn't mention it in the time trials...

http://www.911uk.com/topgear.asp

Leadfoot_mf
08-28-2006, 11:07 PM
yep those times dont mean shit.....at least compare apples to apples.

Dragonfly5338
08-29-2006, 12:11 AM
Recognize, bitches.

slowrolla97
08-29-2006, 01:15 AM
didnt the evo mr get like 2nd or 3rd????? I remember watching a vid and i think it was on here.

4dmin
08-29-2006, 08:49 AM
Long stories behind each. It's like with the 911 turbo. It was done in a VERY wet condition (I have the video to prove it). It was raining so hard that you could barely see. They said that the 911 turbo should be in the mid 120s on a dry day, but oh well (video to prove that as well).

You can and can't take those times seriously. If you want REAL times, look at the Nurburgring times.

you are correct sir, they don't list on the list on the TOP GEAR site about track conditions, but they do mention them in the review write up if i'm not mistaken... now here is the compiled list w/ track conditions below:


Note: The following laps were clocked with the tested vehicle configured for maximum performance. That is to say, all adjustable suspensions were set at their most efficient, all gear shift maps were at their most aggressive, and driving aids such as traction control were deactivated. These lap times do not offer entirely reliable comparisons between the cars - the conditions are far from controlled.

1:17.6 – Koenigsegg CCX (w/TG wing)
1:18.4 – Pagani Zonda F
1:18.9 – Maserati MC12
1.19.0 – Ferrari Enzo Ferrari
1:19.5 – Ariel Atom 2 300
1:19.8 – Porsche Carrera GT
1:20.4 – Koenigsegg CCX (Original) - 5
1:20.7 – Ascari KZ1
1:20.9 – Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren
1:21.9 – Ford GT
1:22.3 – Ferrari 360 CS
1:22.3 – Porsche 911 GT3 RS
1:22.4 – Chevrolet Corvette Z06
1:22.5 – Noble M15
1:22.9 – Ferrari F430 F1
1:23.2 – Ferrari F430 Spider F1
1:23.7 – Lamborghini Murciιlago
1:23.8 – Pagani Zonda C12 S 7.3 - 1
1:23.9 – Koenigsegg CC8S
1:24.3 – Prodrive P2
1:24.6 – TVR Sagaris
1:24.8 – Mitsubishi Evo VIII MR FQ-400
1:24.8 – TVR Tuscan Mk.II
1:25.0 – Noble M12 GTO-3R
1:25.1 – Lotus Exige S
1:25.7 – Lamborghini Gallardo Spyder
1:25.8 – Lamborghini Gallardo - 2
1:25.9 – Morgan Aero 8 GTN
1:26.0 – BMW Z4 M Roadster
1:26.0 – Mitsubishi Evo VIII MR FQ-320
1:26.2 – BMW M5
1:26.4 – Lotus Exige - 1
1:26.7 – Porsche Cayman S
1:26.8 – Chevrolet Corvette
1:26.8 – Ferrari 575M Maranello HGTC
1:26.9 – Mercedes-Benz CLS55 AMG
1:27.1 – Aston Martin Vanquish S
1:27.1 – Aston Martin DB9
1:27.2 – Porsche 911 GT3 - 2
1:27.3 – Spyker C8 Spyder
1:27.5 – TVR T350c
1:27.9 – Wiesmann MF 3
1:28.0 – BMW M3 CSL - 2
1:28.2 – Marcos TSO GT2
1:28.5 – Dodge Viper SRT-10 - 2
1:28.6 – MG XPower SV
1:28.7 – Porsche Boxster S
1:28.9 – Porsche 911 Carrera S - 3
1:28.9 – Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VIII - 5
1:29.0 – Mercedes-Benz CL65 AMG
1:29.0 – Alpina V8 Roadster2
1:29.0 – Lamborghini Murciιlago - 1 & 5
1:29.4 – Subaru Impreza WRX STi WR-1
1:30.0 – Alfa Romeo 147 GTA 3.7
1:30.1 – Subaru Impreza WRX STi - 5
1:30.1 – Vauxhall Monaro VXR
1:30.4 – Aston Martin DB7 GT
1:30.4 – Volkswagen Golf R32
1:30.9 – Audi S4 quattro 4.2
1:31.0 – Porsche 911 Turbo - 2
1:31.3 – Vauxhall VX220 Turbo
1:31.6 – Honda NSX Type-R - 2
1:31.8 – BMW M3
1:31.8 – BMW 535d
1:31.8 – Nissan 350Z
1:31.8 – Mazda RX-8
1:31.9 – BMW 130i
1:32.2 – Ford Focus RS
1:32.2 – Mazda6 MPS
1:32.5 – Lotus Esprit V8
1:32.5 – Renaultsport Mιgane 225 Cup
1:32.7 – Audi TT quattro 3.2
1:32.8 – Modernized Jaguar E-Type
1:32.9 – Mercedes-Benz SLK350
1:33.0 – Mercedes-Benz SL55 AMG - 2
1:33.0 – Vauxhall Astra VXR
1:33.1 – Noble M12 GTO - 2
1:33.3 – Volkswagen Golf R32
1:33.3 – Cadillac CTS-V - 2
1:33.7 – MG ZT 260
1:33.8 – Renaultsport Clio 182 Cup
1:33.9 – Holden Monaro - 2
1:34.5 – Ford Mondeo ST220
1:34.9 – Ford Focus ST - 4
1:35.0 – Volvo S60 R
1:35.1 – Volkswagen Golf GTI
1:35.2 – Ferrari 575M Maranello - 3 & 5
1:35.3 – Vauxhall Vectra VXR
1:35.6 – Alfa Romeo 147 GTA
1:35.6 – Lotus Elise - 2
1:36.2 – Aston Martin V12 Vanquish - 3 & 5
1:36.2 – Renaultsport Clio V6 - 3
1:36.5 – Honda Civic Type-R
1.37.0 – Porsche Boxster - 2
1.37.3 – BMW Z4 3.0i - 2
1.37.4 – Honda S2000 - 2
1:37.9 – Saab 9-5 HOT Aero
1:38.0 – Maserati 3200 GT - 2
1:39.4 – Bowler Wildcat
1:40.8 – Bentley Arnage T - 2
1:44.0 – Overfinch 580 S - 2
1:46.0 – Aston Martin DB5

1 Moist track 2 Wet track 3 Very wet track 4 Foggy conditions 5 Removed from board.


either way you can get the idea; quite a few cars have had to run in wet conditions.

The Yousef
08-29-2006, 08:52 AM
if you want the best info go to:

www.finalgear.com

Ruiner
08-29-2006, 08:57 AM
you are correct sir, they don't list on the list on the TOP GEAR site about track conditions, but they do mention them in the review write up if i'm not mistaken... now here is the compiled list w/ track conditions below:



either way you can get the idea; quite a few cars have had to run in wet conditions.

Still off. They gave it a "2" for wet. I assure you that it was a "3" for VERY wet. Just look at the pictures in the link. Heck, I have the video where it is raining so hard that it is difficult to see the track. Then again, we know how biased Jeremy is against the 911...

4dmin
08-29-2006, 08:59 AM
Still off. They gave it a "2" for wet. I assure you that it was a "3" for VERY wet. Just look at the pictures in the link. Heck, I have the video where it is raining so hard that it is difficult to see the track. Then again, we know how biased Jeremy is against the 911...

Stop being so GREEDY Porsche is already the Top Manufacture on there :lmfao:; no one else comes close with the amount of rides they got on every top list.

The Yousef
08-29-2006, 08:59 AM
Still off. They gave it a "2" for wet. I assure you that it was a "3" for VERY wet. Just look at the pictures in the link. Heck, I have the video where it is raining so hard that it is difficult to see the track. Then again, we know how biased Jeremy is against the 911...

i have to agree on the track conditions....it was rather horrendous (sp?) out...and yes Clarkson tends to not like the 911 very much...but he did love the 997 carrera (after he mocked it...till no end)... :lmao:

Leadfoot_mf
08-29-2006, 11:28 AM
Still off. They gave it a "2" for wet. I assure you that it was a "3" for VERY wet. Just look at the pictures in the link. Heck, I have the video where it is raining so hard that it is difficult to see the track. Then again, we know how biased Jeremy is against the 911...

yeah and american cars....i guess if he doesnt like it, it is crap :2up: but i still love the show and think he is funny

JITB
08-29-2006, 05:41 PM
he loved the ford GT

Ruiner
08-29-2006, 05:59 PM
he loved the ford GT

Loved it so much that he bought one, had it for a few weeks, had it in the shop 4 or 5 times, and then promptly got rid of it (I think that Ford bought it back or something).

JITB
08-29-2006, 06:03 PM
Loved it so much that he bought one, had it for a few weeks, had it in the shop 4 or 5 times, and then promptly got rid of it (I think that Ford bought it back or something).


is that the one with all the car alarm problems?

Ruiner
08-29-2006, 06:18 PM
is that the one with all the car alarm problems?

Among other things, yes.

JITB
08-29-2006, 06:31 PM
what happened with it?

Crazy Asian
08-29-2006, 06:32 PM
Door...alarm and something else.

JITB
08-29-2006, 07:22 PM
i just read about the alarm acting crazy...

ironchef
08-29-2006, 08:13 PM
Still off. They gave it a "2" for wet. I assure you that it was a "3" for VERY wet. Just look at the pictures in the link. Heck, I have the video where it is raining so hard that it is difficult to see the track. Then again, we know how biased Jeremy is against the 911...He concedes it has great performance in his written review of the new 911, but according to him it lacks soul that many other cars, namely italian, have.