Mtn Run: This Sunday August 6th 9am Details Inside

[DinanM3atl]

Time: Sunday, Aug 6th - 9:00am
Location: Home Depot - Hwy. 400 N. across from the Premium Outlet Mall in Dawson Co.

Good time will be had by all. Whos in!!!
Im hopinh Jason and Tim you will be there ;) im expecting it!!!
I dont know where to go exactly when i get up there ;)


Whos in!!!

[JennB]

Damn! 9 am.

Okay okay... I think I can do that.

[joecoolfreak]

I'm in

[Tyl0rWeaver]

I'd be down.. but I'm out of town for the weekend.. :)

next time ;)

[Danny]

Sounds good.

Anyone want to meet up with me in atlanta?

[DinanM3atl]

Damn! 9 am.

Okay okay... I think I can do that.

WHAT... thats not EARLY!!!!

[1SICKLEX]

I maybe in, I want to push my car before I add all the Toms/TRD suspension pieces to really get a feel of the difference.

Let me see if anyone else from SELOC is interested....

[Doppelgänger]

i'll be there... i think... i hope....

Oh.. if you needa a leader.. i know the route and will show you guys the way...

[efman]

Time: Sunday, Aug 6th - 9:00am
Location: Home Depot - Hwy. 400 N. across from the Premium Outlet Mall in Dawson Co.

Good time will be had by all. Whos in!!!
Im hopinh Jason and Tim you will be there ;) im expecting it!!!
I dont know where to go exactly when i get up there ;)


Whos in!!!
just do the loop ! but my favorite section is 60 past suches on the way to morganton (sp?) its very pretty and very nice out that way

[JennB]

WHAT... thats not EARLY!!!!

Yes it is! And 45 minutes from my house. I better get a donut for this. :tongue1:

[Doppelgänger]

a donut? i have a whole pan of fresh butternut toffee fudge in my refidgerator :D

Oh btw... mind you guys.. i have a very lound exhaust... so i apologize in advance for any hearing loss :D

[Leadfoot_mf]

yeah wtf dude 9 am shit i dont get out of bed until noon......

mike your car is not loud......

efman i hope u are a chick cause you said "very pretty and vary nice" in this thread....gay

[joesblk_teg]

damn that sounds like fun one of these times i gonna have to go but i gotta work

[TallGuy]

Im in anyone form the duluth area wont to meet up. I dont know the way..

[~The_Duke~]

Time: Sunday, Aug 6th - 9:00am
Location: Home Depot - Hwy. 400 N. across from the Premium Outlet Mall in Dawson Co.

Good time will be had by all. Whos in!!!
Im hopinh Jason and Tim you will be there ;) im expecting it!!!
I dont know where to go exactly when i get up there ;)


Whos in!!!

Damn you Damn you damn you...cant you wait one more week so I can come to...:cry:

[Leadfoot_mf]

Damn you Damn you damn you...cant you wait one more week so I can come to...:cry:
no

[~The_Duke~]

well you suck...

[Leadfoot_mf]

^^^we will do another one.....you suck for not be able to come...

[~The_Duke~]

^^^we will do another one.....you suck for not be able to come...

Well see the problem is that every single one this summer has been perfectly staggered on weekends that I cant do stuff...except for one that got rained out...

so there is going to be another next weekend to :D

[Leadfoot_mf]

yeah u make a thread....tell people the 5 w's...they will show....that is how this went down i told halston to make a post

[~The_Duke~]

yeah u make a thread....tell people the 5 w's...they will show....that is how this went down i told halston to make a post

:lmao: I suck ass at orgnizing things, but hey I have to learn sometime :goodjob:

The problem is that if I propose it then they will be except me to have route planned out, and I dont know jack shit about the roads (names and which ones are good or not) up there...

[Leadfoot_mf]

well on one of the days u have off drive up north get a map look for roads and drive em

[Fast Shadow]

damn.. did one solo last week already.. ended up in hayesville NC, by Chatuge Lake.. fucking -gorgeous- spot.

[DinanM3atl]

a donut? i have a whole pan of fresh butternut toffee fudge in my refidgerator :D

Oh btw... mind you guys.. i have a very lound exhaust... so i apologize in advance for any hearing loss :D


I aint skeered
mine is louder i am willing to bet

[DinanM3atl]

damn timmy i see its a C5...
i was riding a c5 z06 at road atlanta in my m3 from turn 1 till turn 7... then gone ont he straight ;)
i have videos of course

[~The_Duke~]

I aint skeered
mine is louder i am willing to bet

:lmao: I think dinan wins on this one more than likely...you can hear him a good 1/2 mile to a mile off through the mountains...specailly when he is on it...

[kendogg]

I'm there. I'm Halston's co-pilot:goodjob:

[DinanM3atl]

:lmao: I think dinan wins on this one more than likely...you can hear him a good 1/2 mile to a mile off through the mountains...specailly when he is on it...


hell yah
thats what i am talking about!!!

[Bballjamal]

I'm in! Joe, want to meet up somewhere so I can follow you up? I want to get some shots of everyone coming through the turns and stuff, plus I'm dying to see these roads before I get my suspension done! Hit me with a PM maynneee

[Leadfoot_mf]

damn timmy i see its a C5...
i was riding a c5 z06 at road atlanta in my m3 from turn 1 till turn 7... then gone ont he straight ;)
i have videos of course
yeah yeah will i need plugs and wires so looks like i will do that sat night....and i will start with the excuses i drove it tonight and it was pushing hard...will have to see maybe i can get some good rubber tomorrow as well..... :goodjob:

[DinanM3atl]

yeah yeah will i need plugs and wires so looks like i will do that sat night....and i will start with the excuses i drove it tonight and it was pushing hard...will have to see maybe i can get some good rubber tomorrow as well..... :goodjob:


i like u man ;)

[DinanM3atl]

is it time yet?

[JennB]

Lets just go... I'm bored :lmfao:

[Leadfoot_mf]

no iam working and want to fix car....

[ShooterMcGavin]

can't make this one, y'all have fun

[Doppelgänger]

I aint skeered
mine is louder i am willing to bet
Nah... how about this.. we'll both get side by side on the hey and see what the people behind us think...of who is louder. Or better yet.. if we get pulled over.. ask the cop who he heard first :D

I still think mine is outright louder.... yours might have a cleaner tone.. but i got the volume in the bag !

[Leadfoot_mf]

my car is loud also

[green91]

i hope it dries up for you guys. i doubt ill bring the honda out, and the nissan still hasnt fully recovered from the last run lol.

[DinanM3atl]

it will be dry...
it is drying up NOW
and wont rain MAYBE till tomorrow night around the same time as it did today!!!


See you guys out there at the Home Depot

[JennB]

I'll be there. We gonna grab some breakfast?

[DinanM3atl]

I'll be there. We gonna grab some breakfast?

this is possible

[kendogg]

I'll be there. We gonna grab some breakfast?

This is sweet, as I have yet to meet you since I've finally moved down here, and I missed you at Varsity.

[EvasiveEF9]

Hmm...thought about going, but it's 2:30, I'm tired as shit, and it doesn't look like many people I know are goin'...

Good luck you all, be safe!!!

[speedminded]

it's 4:20am and i survived yet another night of La Vaca. Last time i was there it was a BET event and that was kinda....wouldn't say ackward exactly...definitely a...good time...but don't know what was worse, being the ONLY white person in the entire club or having 3 chicks give me a complete physical...they didn't even bother telling me to turn my head and cough, how dare them :rolleyes: and then they go :eek: yesh ladies, you'll need 3 hands :yes:

oh yeah, bad things happen on mtn runs i don't organize...i'm gonna try to make it though but i don't know...other priorities like sleep and :la: and :hump: may take precedence over burning fuel and tires :dunno: good night.

[JennB]

You do know what La Vaca means, right? That explains the lack of little hotties. ha.


Y'all better be awake cause I am and I really don't like being awake right now. :yawn: I'm on my way.... hope is doesn't take me too long to get all the way up there.

[kendogg]

You do know what La Vaca means, right? That explains the lack of little hotties. ha.


Y'all better be awake cause I am and I really don't like being awake right now. :yawn: I'm on my way.... hope is doesn't take me too long to get all the way up there.

Oh cry me a river, lmoa. J/K :)

I've been up about a half hour now, Just got out of the shower, Halston just woke up, we'll be there, don't worry. Jenn, breakfast sounds soooo good, I'm starved, lol.

[JennB]

yay! I just got out of the shower so I'm gonna get dressed and head on up. I'm coming from Buckhead so it may take me a little while. Not gonna eat before I leave though so food sounds fabulous!

I'm ready to drive! Woo hoo!

Need to stop for gas and check the tires before we all roll out though.

[green91]

its pretty wet up here, we had a hella storm last night, but the roads will probably dry out quite a bit

[DinanM3atl]

it's 4:20am and i survived yet another night of La Vaca. Last time i was there it was a BET event and that was kinda....wouldn't say ackward exactly...definitely a...good time...but don't know what was worse, being the ONLY white person in the entire club or having 3 chicks give me a complete physical...they didn't even bother telling me to turn my head and cough, how dare them :rolleyes: and then they go :eek: yesh ladies, you'll need 3 hands :yes:

oh yeah, bad things happen on mtn runs i don't organize...i'm gonna try to make it though but i don't know...other priorities like sleep and :la: and :hump: may take precedence over burning fuel and tires :dunno: good night.


nothing bad happened
was a great event

[Leadfoot_mf]

mike if u didnt drive a rice car u could of drivin right past that ghp it pays to drive an adult car....jenn u could of followed throug... good run had fun lets do it again...

[JennB]

Now I'm home and I'm bored! Ha. That was fun.

I need less swaybar though.... poor little drifting MINI. :tongue1: Once I do that and maybe get a little more camber in the rear, she'll be a happy girl.

I'm definitely in for the next one :yes:

[Bballjamal]

Tein SS springs and Koni Yellows on the way next weekend! Eibach sways soon after!

Still won't be able to keep up with most of you :(

Pics will be posted in the "car pics" forum by tonight!

[Bballjamal]

O, and definately nice meeting all you guys, and gal, and good taking some twisties with ya :goodjob:

[Doppelgänger]

Hey Tim... eat a dick :D It was that fuckign Accord holding me up!!! Otherwise i'd been right there behind ya. Doesnt matter anyway. he popped some guy at the outlet mall for having an expired dealer temp tag!!

Definatly was a great day..minus the heat. Good meeting ya Jenn ;)

Maybe next time i'll have the slicks on...maybe....

[JennB]

Nice meetng you too ;) wait.... what happened to my damn fudge!?!?1 :lmfao:


Nice meeting everyone, had a great time.

[Doppelgänger]

Nice meetng you too ;) wait.... what happened to my damn fudge!?!?1 :lmfao:


Nice meeting everyone, had a great time.

I still got it over here :D It would have melted by the time i even got there :(

You can come over and get it :D No really.. i do have it!!! :bump:

[kendogg]

What a helluva day, right? I LOVED being out with the whole crew today, and can't wait for the next one. I'm glad I got to meet some of you peeps, Tim, Jenn B, Jamal, etc. My E30, hopefully, will be done and on the road by the ed of this month, so, well see what happens. If it's road-ready before the next mountain run, I'm there for sure!!!

[Bballjamal]

Well I have all the pics uploaded but someone PM'ed me and advised I should post the pics at the same time the vid is done being edited! Here's a snap for the meantime though!

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[speedminded]

Well I have all the pics uploaded but someone PM'ed me and advised I should post the pics at the same time the vid is done being edited! Here's a snap for the meantime though!

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[Bballjamal]

LMFAO

Funny catch!

[speedminded]

LMFAO

Funny catch!i'm just jealous of your pics, i want a real camera.

[joecoolfreak]

Well I have all the pics uploaded but someone PM'ed me and advised I should post the pics at the same time the vid is done being edited! Here's a snap for the meantime though!


Might be a while on the video...there is a lot of footage and most of it was terrible. I need to devise some form of vibration insulation mount as the footage from the mount was annoyingly shaky. Either that, or I need a cameraman. The last bit wasn't too bad and I will get it up, but will be a few days at the least as I won't have a whole lot of extra time this week. Either way, I had a great time and hope to see you guys out again.

[Bballjamal]

i'm just jealous of your pics, i want a real camera.


Lets trade :bump:

E-300 for D300 (if that is what you have!)

[JennB]

I can't wait to see the pics... they are gonna be great.

No videos of the dirfit MINI :tongue: I am so over-analytical of my own driving... jeez... such a girl. I'm wondering if its too much rear sway or if I am setting up wide turns wrong cause I had no problems in the really tight ones, which are what I'm far more used too. Who wants to drive the MINI and tell me if its the car or if I need to work on those wide turns? Tips and pointers gladly accepted :goodjob:

[green91]

looks like it was a good run

[speedminded]

Lets trade :bump:

E-300 for D300 (if that is what you have!)shit, i have no camera but a tiny pocket sony....i just borrow cameras whenever i can get a chance.

[joecoolfreak]

I can't wait to see the pics... they are gonna be great.

No videos of the dirfit MINI :tongue: I am so over-analytical of my own driving... jeez... such a girl. I'm wondering if its too much rear sway or if I am setting up wide turns wrong cause I had no problems in the really tight ones, which are what I'm far more used too. Who wants to drive the MINI and tell me if its the car or if I need to work on those wide turns? Tips and pointers gladly accepted :goodjob:

Actually, Jenn after being behind you and seeing the footage, I was really impressed with your driving. For a beginner that hasn't had a whole lot of seat time in your car, you are doing very well. That being said, I would be more than happy to drive the mini anytime, or sit shotgun and give constructive advice...

[kendogg]

I can't wait to see the pics... they are gonna be great.

No videos of the dirfit MINI :tongue: I am so over-analytical of my own driving... jeez... such a girl. I'm wondering if its too much rear sway or if I am setting up wide turns wrong cause I had no problems in the really tight ones, which are what I'm far more used too. Who wants to drive the MINI and tell me if its the car or if I need to work on those wide turns? Tips and pointers gladly accepted :goodjob:

Yeah, I can do the same. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE come to the October Drivers School at Road Atlanta. It is soo well worth it. Not sure if you've ever done a DE before, but trust me, you will not be dissappointed. The instructors are great, and can help you with whatever you want to learn, and can work at your pace throughout the weekend.

But, in the meantime, I would say try re-setting that swaybar, and go driving and see what happens.

I PM's you about your rear sway, I have an even better idea. Let us know what tools are needed to adjust the links, and somebody can probably just bring them to one of the Northpoint meets I suggested you start comming to:yes:, and I'm sure we can do it right there. Couldn't take more than 20 minutes I'm sure.

EDIT: If you want proper drift training, though, just ask mike, he's the group pro-drifter :ninja:. He prolly lives closer than most any of us either, I'm up at exit 7a off 400. A ways from Buckhead

[green91]

I'll give you drifting advice for a mini... dont try! lol.

[kendogg]

I'll give you drifting advice for a mini... dont try! lol.

Why not? A little casual, personal drifting can never hurt. Not saying try to compete or anything, but it's nice to klnow how to drift your own car, and to bring it back in line when you don't mean it, lol.

[JennB]

Nooooooooooooo, I never would drift my car... it's a joke. My back end was getting lose in certain turns and I was very unhappy about it. I want my car flat and in a nice line going forward, not sideways. Not that I have anything against other people drifitng, it's fun as hell to watch but that is not what my car is made for.



Oh... and thanks for the compliment on the driving. I wouldn't call myself a beginner by any means, I've had a license for 10 years now but this particular car is only 8 months old and I've never had any real training. My 04 MINI (current MINI is an 06) was a lot easier to control because it had less power and well, I was driving in Indiana and if you've ever been there well... yeah. My previous cars certainly saw a lot of my crazy driving but were stock... poor college student and all that. I think I need some practice, pointers and maybe a little more camber and I should be good. Knowing my perfectionist ways, I'll never be 100% happy with my skills though. :lmfao: I'll have to head back up for some ride alongs sometime soon though for sure. I'm quite anxious to learn and impove :goodjob:

[kendogg]

Nooooooooooooo, I never would drift my car... it's a joke. My back end was getting lose in certain turns and I was very unhappy about it. I want my car flat and in a nice line going forward, not sideways.

Oh, stop, a little drift when nobody's looking isn't a BAD thing :goodjob:

But I hear ya, I like a very neutral car too when I'm driving hard, but I like throttle oversteer on demand sometimes as well, lol.

[Tyl0rWeaver]

Welp.. as I was enjoying my weekend in Helen.. I saw you guys cruise through around Noon-1pm or so..

good seeing you guys!!! wish I could've made the drive..

next time :)

-Tylor

[DinanM3atl]

word
nice to meet everyone for sure!!!
jamal post up those pictures!!!

[green91]

alot of your oversteer is likely rear sway bar related, i had alot of problems with my civic wanting to step out in the mtns with a rear sway

[DinanM3atl]

ill organize another one for sure..
definately not this next weekend
maybe 2 or 3 weeks from now :)

[DinanM3atl]

http://forums.importatlanta.com/showthread.php?p=34836777#post34836777

[Danny]

I can't wait to see the pics... they are gonna be great.

No videos of the dirfit MINI :tongue: I am so over-analytical of my own driving... jeez... such a girl. I'm wondering if its too much rear sway or if I am setting up wide turns wrong cause I had no problems in the really tight ones, which are what I'm far more used too. Who wants to drive the MINI and tell me if its the car or if I need to work on those wide turns? Tips and pointers gladly accepted :goodjob:


Jenn, the two times I saw you oversteer more than you would want:
1st time - exit of decreasing radious realitivly flat, likly at 100% thorottle. This to me is where i would expect understeer, not oversteer.

2nd time- entering a decreasing radius, uphill. likly trailbraking, which is a great setup for oversteer (like you did).

Now, did u have any understeer problems on any of the turns? I was definatly right on ur ass both of those turns, and i didnt feel like i was pushing it, so im gonna lean towards, you had very few if any understeer problems and that in fact it could be you suspension setup to oversteer a little (sway bar, good place to start)... anywho, nice driving ;)

[speedminded]

Jenn, the two times I saw you oversteer more than you would want:
1st time - exit of decreasing radious realitivly flat, likly at 100% thorottle. This to me is where i would expect understeer, not oversteer.

2nd time- entering a decreasing radius, uphill. likly trailbraking, which is a great setup for oversteer (like you did).

Now, did u have any understeer problems on any of the turns? I was definatly right on ur ass both of those turns, and i didnt feel like i was pushing it, so im gonna lean towards, you had very few if any understeer problems and that in fact it could be you suspension setup to oversteer a little (sway bar, good place to start)... anywho, nice driving ;)It's wheel base is 4" less than my car and with a stiff rear sway it's going to come around. I would imagine the tires used on this type of driving would be a disadvantage too. Hey Jenn, what PSI were you running in the tires...was it the same for front and rear?

[JennB]

We checked it on of the the stops and I think it was about 30. I usually keep it higher than that though.

[speedminded]

We checked it on of the the stops and I think it was about 30. I usually keep it higher than that though.I would have maybe put 5 more in the front to see if it would stick in the rear a little more, or it may just cause it too oversteer a little :dunno:

[JennB]

Jenn, the two times I saw you oversteer more than you would want:
1st time - exit of decreasing radious realitivly flat, likly at 100% thorottle. This to me is where i would expect understeer, not oversteer.

2nd time- entering a decreasing radius, uphill. likly trailbraking, which is a great setup for oversteer (like you did).

Now, did u have any understeer problems on any of the turns? I was definatly right on ur ass both of those turns, and i didnt feel like i was pushing it, so im gonna lean towards, you had very few if any understeer problems and that in fact it could be you suspension setup to oversteer a little (sway bar, good place to start)... anywho, nice driving ;)

What should I do to correct these mistakes?

I didn't feel any understeer at all.

[speedminded]

What should I do to correct these things?

I didn't feel any understeer at all.When i was running 17's with kumhos, both 711's and 712's, i would have to countersteer going into turns with all 4 sliding but it would usually even out around the apex...just enough for it to step back out exiting the turn. It was really rough before the LSD because i'd have to feather the throttle and still normally light up the inside tire trying to pull it straight out of the turn.

My suggestion would be play with tires and tire pressures and i know you hate to hear it but maybe use a less aggresive rear sway....you upgraded it didn't you? That will make it a little more predictable. Other than that just keep getting more seat time and get accustomed to it. Your car and it's suspension setup up is really stiff and it's behavior is to be expected...

[Danny]

What should I do to correct these things?

I didn't feel any understeer at all.

I mean you feel its truly the suspension setup wrong, then change it. Sounds like u upgraged the rear anti-sway bar since last time you drove it hard. Obviously if that is true, i would start there ;)

[JennB]

Yeah, it is an amazingly stiff car. My sway bar is a HSport 25.5mm hollow comp bar set on the middle setting, I can move it down to the softer setting, with a little help of course. They don't like me messing with my car in the parking lot.

This same bar was on my 04 as well and in the year or so I had that car, it never once got away from me in any way.

I do have LSD as well, which my 04 did not have.

I'm really curious if it's the suspension or if it's me. I haven't had any real training so I want to know if I'm doing something wrong.

[speedminded]

Yeah, it is an amazingly stiff car. My sway bar is a HSport 25.5mm hollow comp bar set on the middle setting, I can move it down to the softer setting, with a little help of course. They don't like me messing with my car in the parking lot.

I do have LSD as well.I'd move it down to see what happens, have you run it hard at the softer setting before?

[JennB]

Nope. It's been on the middle on both cars.

[speedminded]

Nope. It's been on the middle on both cars.Are the spring rates on the '05 a little heavier?

[JennB]

Lowering springs on the 06, stock on the 04. 06 has a 1'3" drop on progressive rate springs.

[joecoolfreak]

I'm really curious if it's the suspension or if it's me. I haven't had any real training so I want to know if I'm doing something wrong.

I don't think it's you at all. That all being said, it's not necessarily a bad thing either. The rear is going to slide as you become a better driver and push your car harder and the stiff rear suspension makes it more likely. Before suspension upgrades on the retta, it was very rare to have the rear slide because I couldn't push as hard in the corners. The car understeered quite a bit and gave up well before the rear would slide. Now that I have a much better suspension, my rear slides quite a bit, but predictably so. As I continue to push harder, the rear will go farther out, but that doesn't concern me terribly. The trick is to get comfortable with it and anticipate it. With that comes more control and confidence.

[98Impreza234]

im in for this.

[Bballjamal]

Jenn, I meant to tell you but I think you have more negative camber on your drivers side rear than on your pass side rear! To tell the truth your pass side rear looked pretty neutral. It might have been because I was behind you on the drivers side and couldn't see the angle on the pass side but I was sure I checked when we were cruising back 400 south.

When you were driving in the Mtn's did you notice you got loose more going around left hand turns than right? If so, then that was definately a factor. If your pass side was at a smaller neg or 0 camber with that sway back there then that accounts for you sliding out on that side. I know for sure the two times I saw you get loose were on sharp highspeed left turns.

[JennB]

Yep, left turns were what got the car loose. Wide left turns.

[speedminded]

Yep, left turns were what got the car loose. Wide left turns.That's kinda normal, left turns are always a little longer and normally flatter. Looking through my pics your driver's side rear definitely has quite a bit of camber but don't have any good shots of the passenger side to compare it to...

[DinanM3atl]

im in for this.

hahahha your a little late :)

[Leadfoot_mf]

That's kinda normal, left turns are always a little longer and normally flatter.
what the hell are u talking about????

[joecoolfreak]

He is referring to the fact that left turns are on the outside of the turn and right turns are on the inside...at least on two way roads here in the US.

[Danny]

what the hell are u talking about????

:rolleyes: **sigh** :rolleyes:

[Doppelgänger]

damn... im away from a computer for 24hrs and this shit gets to page 5?!?! oh well.. sucks not having a computer at home.

BTW.. my car died on me lastnight.. well, not dead, but something is telling the computer to leave the injectors wide open and open the idle air control valve open al lthe time :( It happened in the blink of an eye. I was leaving WaHo up here, ran fine.. came to a stop light and it just went all crazy on me when i put the car in 2nd.... started revving and flooding under throttle.... fuck.. this sucks. I bet its something simple too... i spent most the day lookign over all the wiring everywhere and can't find anything.

Jenn- dont worry, i know better then to want to take the MINI for some drifting :D But if you'd like, i'll drive the car for you (not wrecklessly) and give you my input on the feeling of the suspension setup.

[kendogg]

damn... im away from a computer for 24hrs and this shit gets to page 5?!?! oh well.. sucks not having a computer at home.

BTW.. my car died on me lastnight.. well, not dead, but something is telling the computer to leave the injectors wide open and open the idle air control valve open al lthe time :( It happened in the blink of an eye. I was leaving WaHo up here, ran fine.. came to a stop light and it just went all crazy on me when i put the car in 2nd.... started revving and flooding under throttle.... fuck.. this sucks. I bet its something simple too... i spent most the day lookign over all the wiring everywhere and can't find anything.

Jenn- dont worry, i know better then to want to take the MINI for some drifting :D But if you'd like, i'll drive the car for you (not wrecklessly) and give you my input on the feeling of the suspension setup.

Ouch, that sucks about the car man. How's the oil smell, is it fuel-loggd? Might possibly be, your running incredibly rich. ANy clue's at all as to what is wrong? electrical, fuel, or mechanical?

Jenn, I'd take Mike up on his offer to drive your car. He's sponsor'd, he's a pro drifter, and you know him now, so it's fairly safe to assume he knows whats going on with suspension, and how to feel a car out thoroughly.

[green91]

Having someone else set up your suspension doesnt help alot, everyone likes their car to handle differently

[JennB]

I know, but I would like for someone to look at it and tell me what is causing the problems I'm having and help me tweak it to where I need it to be. Watch how I drive and see what is happening and help me make the right changes. :goodjob:

Besides, it's a reason to get out and drive and have some fun!

[DinanM3atl]

i told you a long time ago to bring it over to autofab...

Handling is what we do!!!

[JennB]

Well it was fine before :taun: I've taken the car on those exact same roads before and to the dragon a few times and it was as neutral as could be.

It has to be something that has changed recently like my alignment. I usually run with a lot more camber in the rear but was tired of destroying tires. Maybe the softer setting in the rear sway can do the trick... I'll figure something out and it may have to come see you guys.:bump:

[Truegiant]

anytime you feel like cruising up and down the mtn.. Myself, green91 (chris), efman live in dahlonega and I live on the mountain. Jason of course used to live up here so he knows the mtn. as well.. (just dont ask him to chase a ford ranger down the big hill!!!!!)

As far as the rear stepping out.. how hard of braking were you doing going in the turns?? Any trailbraking? I spent a few minutes on some mini forums researching your problem and almost everyone is saying to run the softer setting on the sway...

Hope all ends out well!

[JennB]

I try my absolute best to never, ever brake in a turn. I think I may have hit the brake a little later than I should have once or twice though. I need to get someone to watch me drive and fuss at me. :taun:

[Danny]

I try my absolute best to never, ever brake in a turn.


wtf do u do then? Do a voo-doo dance to slow the mini down? Im sorry, but thats a funny statement. ;)

[kendogg]

wtf do u do then? Do a voo-doo dance to slow the mini down? Im sorry, but thats a funny statement. ;)

It's called braking before a turn, pre-selecting your exit gear, and powering out from the apex. Not everybody is good enough to trail brake into a corner.

[kendogg]

I try my absolute best to never, ever brake in a turn. I think I may have hit the brake a little later than I should have once or twice though. I need to get someone to watch me drive and fuss at me. :taun:

Jenn, I can be available pretty much any evening, or a sunday if you want me to drive with you. LMK.

[DinanM3atl]

It's called braking before a turn, pre-selecting your exit gear, and powering out from the apex. Not everybody is good enough to trail brake into a corner.



owned!!!


:)

[green91]

damn EDM brothers regulatin this shit

[Danny]

It's called braking before a turn, pre-selecting your exit gear, and powering out from the apex. Not everybody is good enough to trail brake into a corner.


ohh.. Your right, i forgot 'normal driving' was an option here. My bad.

[Danny]

owned!!!


:)

uhhh... Nice try, but owned is when someone makes a counterpoint that prooves the original poster to be either wrong and/or just shy of a valid point. In this particular instance Kendogg would have had to make a driving susgestion that would proove trailbraking to be the slower method of attacking a corner. BUT, Kendogg did not accomplish this, he did in fact make a point, but it was a tactic that is slower (which kendogg also agrees to because he said the driver must be better to trailbrake; better = faster is a safe assumtion imo). Now, however valid Kendoggs point is.. it sure doesnt deserve a "owned" post that wastes bandwidth.

[JennB]

Oh boys :taun:

I brake before a turn, not while in it. I just don't have the skills to brake in a turn without my antilock going nuts so I don't do it.

[kendogg]

Oh boys :taun:

I brake before a turn, not while in it. I just don't have the skills to brake in a turn without my antilock going nuts so I don't do it.

Thats fine, and there's nothing wrong with that. Thats alot better than trying to be Micheal Schumacher when you aren't.

[Danny]

Thats fine, and there's nothing wrong with that. Thats alot better than trying to be Micheal Schumacher when you aren't.

isnt that the truth.. thats why I dont push it at all out there in the mtns, i just go at my own little pace. Cant wait to get to the track with some of u guys where I can actually push it. (people leave me on the straights :( , then i catch up on the brakes)

Kendogg, that was u in the red e30 right? If so, my roof, hood, headlights, front bumper, kidneys, and windscreen want to thank you for all the rock chips :( ;)

[kendogg]

isnt that the truth.. thats why I dont push it at all out there in the mtns, i just go at my own little pace. Cant wait to get to the track with some of u guys where I can actually push it. (people leave me on the straights :( , then i catch up on the brakes)

Kendogg, that was u in the red e30 right? If so, my roof, hood, headlights, front bumper, kidneys, and windscreen want to thank you for all the rock chips :( ;)

No, that was Thomas, the owner of AutoFab. I was the co-pilot in the white M3.

[DinanM3atl]

rockchips give BMWs character

[Danny]

rockchips give BMWs character


Yes they do.. :D lol....

Halston, the M sounds great man... I think i need a trackpipe, hmmm.. maybe autofab can help me out?? :D

[Leadfoot_mf]

Kendogg, that was u in the red e30 right? If so, my roof, hood, headlights, front bumper, kidneys, and windscreen want to thank you for all the rock chips :( ;)
if this is happening and u dont want rock chips back off of the car and then change positions yeah thomas was a rock throughing bastard sun.... :2up:

[JennB]

I actually had to change my contact lenses because of all the crap that flew in my open windows and sunroof :taun: