F22B vS F22A

[VTECin5th]

Which one would you choose.....

F22B= DOHC Non-VTEC
F22A= SOHC VTEC


Almost the same amout of HP

[Ludester]

honesly????? none of them man.... power platforms are too weak IMO. If I I really had a chance i would take the f22b and boost it....

[VTECin5th]

YEAH F22B HAS LOWER COMPRESSION ITS 8:0:1 REAL GOOD FOR TURBO

[K24cb7coupe]

none of the about f22b parts hard to find, if you want boost f22a will suite you just find. I've seen people put down almost 300hp on stock block and the car was a DD. I have heard nothing but horror stories from the f22b dohc.

[an0therh22]

i rather just spend the money on a swap than turbo neither of those motors

[streetstuff]

f-22A non vtec is a good allmotor setup if you have the money it will make 280s all day

[K24cb7coupe]

you can run boost on a f22a all day as long as it is tuned and you dont get boost happy.

[NoPainT]

or you can just get rid of both those motors and put a B series :D

J/k I would go with F22A.... j

[brads94accord]

boosted f22a6 FTW

[KevinT707]

F22 are gay in general.

[PawnShopCEO]

f-22A non vtec is a good allmotor setup if you have the money it will make 280s all day


hrmm..; maybe if you are bisi.. otherwise about 200 whp would be about the max if you leave no stone unturned

[streetstuff]

i made that 280 with my motor and it was a bisi set up everything but fuil injected 201trq

[brads94accord]

F22 are gay in general.


so are kids in white CRX's w/ white wheels w/ ls/vtec motors ;)

[CB7tuner]

i love my F22A

[an0therh22]

h22a all the way lol in general boosted f22a or fuck the boost stick a 100 shot in there hahaa jjk

[KevinT707]

so are kids in white CRX's w/ white wheels w/ ls/vtec motors ;)
LOL, don't hate just because you make more torque than F-150s & less HP then a D15 ;)

[BigPoppaHurtm]

LOL, don't hate just because you make more torque than F-150s & less HP then a D15 ;)

FUK U KEVIN MY DADS ACCORDS GONNA RULE THE STREETS ONE DAY :cry:


~runs away crying knowing his destiny is to have the most powerful automatic accord in the world~

To Be Continued...

[JDMaccord]

the F22B2 is the silver bullet, of all accords . except SIR H22A1 which if i dont sell or trade my car thats wat it will b, any body got an H22A1 (LSD)

[BlkCD5]

For turbo, the F22B is ideal. If i was going NA, then H22 all the way. :D

[an0therh22]

vtec ftw!

[o_bomb]

Ive never heard of a sohc vtec f22a. go with the f22b for the extra cam. boost is very ideal for both motors. f22b are also oil starvation motors. Take that into considration. The f22a u r talking about comes out of a 90 93 accord and the f22b is the replacement motor for the h23 in 92-96 preludes. I would go with the F22b for sure!!

[VTECin5th]

F22 are gay in general.

I dont think anyone here gives, Save it

[VTECin5th]

Ive never heard of a sohc vtec f22a. go with the f22b for the extra cam. boost is very ideal for both motors. f22b are also oil starvation motors. Take that into considration. The f22a u r talking about comes out of a 90 93 accord and the f22b is the replacement motor for the h23 in 92-96 preludes. I would go with the F22b for sure!!


F22A has no VTEC F22A6 is SOHC VTEC my bad, I like f22b cuase of Dual

[MoonScryer]

F22B. They are only oil starved if you don't put oil in them; also helps to modify the oil pump with a bit of port work and higher oil pressure.

This one shall see a 55 shot again very soon. I picked it up recently w/ a 92 Accord from a friend who ran it w/o ANY oil. The first owner of it, before it was sold and blown up, was goinfasterthanu for five years w/o any issues.

http://www.moonscryer.org/images/accord2.jpg

[VTECin5th]

nice

[o_bomb]

:DA f22a6 doesnt have vtec. No 90-93 accord came with vtec. Which made me really upset. The f22a6 is the strongest out of all the f22a's because of its dual runner intake. Go with f22b cuz the B stands for boost:D

[VTECin5th]

Ture

[ZakuZero]

I thought the F22b was a sohc motor... My car's got an F22B2 and it's a single cam, so wtf

[o_bomb]

I dont think anyone here gives, Save it



Forgot to comment on that! Yeah assboy SAVE IT! Comin from someone that has a h22cord!

[o_bomb]

F22b is JDM. F22b2 is usdm

[o_bomb]

Your F22b2 is not to far off the F22b! The jdm one has about 10-12 more horses and a extra cam! u: 150hp jdm: 160hp

[ZakuZero]

150 my butt... my car's got like 130 max. It's a toilet, but thanks I didn't know the japanese f22b was different.

[o_bomb]

Im almost postive it has more than 130. 90-93 accord f22a1=130 f22a4=130 f22a6=140. 94-97 accord f22b1=150 f22b2=130. Yeah u are right! I thought u had a ex cd5 accord!

[allmotoronly]

fuck both of them... If you HAVE to get a F series, get a F20B... best of both worlds... DOHC and VTEC... Kinda like a destroked H22A, and has the same head casting as a jdm H22A Type S. It also has standard cylinders, not FRM like the H22A, which means you can bore it and hone it with no problems... You can get a F20B with LSD tranny on ebay for less than $2g's... all motor ftw!!!

[o_bomb]

Allmotor has a point, but u will NEVER~EVER catch me buying a motor off of EBAY!! U might as well hang yourself!!:hanged:

[VTECin5th]

I thought the F22b was a sohc motor... My car's got an F22B2 and it's a single cam, so wtf


Thats F22B2 were talkin bout F22B

[VTECin5th]

Allmotor has a point, but u will NEVER~EVER catch me buying a motor off of EBAY!! U might as well hang yourself!!:hanged:



Yeah theres alot of BS going around.

[allmotoronly]

you just have to watch a few auctions before you buy from a person. watch, wait a few weeks, contact the people wh won the auction and see how the engines turned out... I bought a H22A type S on ebay. It turned out great.

[o_bomb]

I would still get it from a reputable place, but not OSAKA!

[§treet_§peed]

:D

F20A 2.0 16V DOHC PGM-FI 1955 150hp@6100rpm 137tq@5000rpm '90-'93 Accord Si (JDM)
F20A4 2.0 SOHC PGM-FI 1955 ?? ?? '94 Prelude
F20B 2.0 16V DOHC VTEC PGM-FI 1955 149 kW ?? '90-'93 Accord Si-R (JDM)
F20C 2.0 16V DOHC VTEC PGM-FI 1997 240hp@8300rpm 153tq@7500rpm '00-'02 S2000
F22 2.2 16V DOHC PGM-FI 2156 160hp@6000rpm 148tq@5000rpm '92-'96 Prelude Si (USA)
F22A1 2.2 SOHC PGM-FI 2156 125hp@5200rpm 137tq@4000rpm '90-'93 Accord (USA)
F22A1 2.2 SOHC PGM-FI 2156 135hp@5200rpm 142tq@4000rpm '92-'96 Prelude S (USA)
F22A2 2.2 SOHC VTEC PGM-FI 2156 108 kW ?? '94-'97 Accord EX
F22A4 2.2 16V SOHC PGM-FI 2156 130hp@5200rpm 140tq@4000rpm '90-'91 Accord EX (USA)
F22A6 2.2 16V SOHC PGM-FI 2156 140hp@5600rpm 142tq@5200rpm '91 Accord SE (USA)
'92 Accord EX-R (JDM)
'93 Accord EX/SE (USA)
F22B1 2.2 16V DOHC PGM-FI 2156 145hp@5500rpm 147tq@4500rpm '94-'95 Accord EX (USA)
F22B2 2.2 16V SOHC PGM-FI 2156 130hp@5300rpm 139tq@4200rpm '94-'95 Accord DX/LX (USA)
F23A1 2.3 SOHC VTEC 2259 112 kW '98+ Accord EX/LX
F23A4 2.3 SOHC ULEV VTEC PGM-FI 2259 110 kW ?? '98-'?? Accord EX/LX

[allmotoronly]

F20B 2.0 16V DOHC VTEC PGM-FI 1955 149 kW ?? '90-'93 Accord Si-R (JDM)


That engine was offered in more models other than the 90-93 accord. It was offered in later SiR models and was made all the way to 2000. The 1996-2000 models are OBDII. It had 200hp and was 1997cc, not 1955.

[VTECin5th]

what does F20B come off of

[o_bomb]

^^It comes out of an accord in japan. Its a powerful motor. Lots of tq and hp in a 2 liter. HMM i dont know I still think a h22 is better. F20 is similar to a destroked h22!

[o_bomb]

That engine was offered in more models other than the 90-93 accord. It was offered in later SiR models and was made all the way to 2000. The 1996-2000 models are OBDII. It had 200hp and was 1997cc, not 1955.



U have a point, but why people always overlook this motor?:thinking: People rarely talk about the f20b

[allmotoronly]

because most of the time people will just use a H22A instead of the F20B. Price wise, the F20B is only a few hundred less than a H22A. Also most people dont know vtec from v-tech (cordless phones) and think the "h22" is the coolest shit to hit the face of the planet. The later model F20B's have the same head as the jdm H22A type S engine, and also have steel sleeves instead of FRM, which means it can be bored easier. IMO it is just as good of an engine as the H22A. I had a H22A type S engine in my old prelude and it ran hard as hell, which i believe was to do with the different head. The slightly higher compression of the type S engine probably helped a little, but I think the big gain was from the head. BOOSTED LUDE on here has a F20B in his prelude that he is selling or has sold recently (not sure if he still has it). He will know first hand the difference between the usdm h22a and the jdm F20B, since he has had both.

[allmotoronly]

^^It comes out of an accord in japan. Its a powerful motor. Lots of tq and hp in a 2 liter. HMM i dont know I still think a h22 is better. F20 is similar to a destroked h22!

it is exactly a destroked H22A. the block may say "F" but it is identical to the "H" blocks. It is reinforced like the H22A.

[o_bomb]

^^ Thanks for the info. Yeah I really dont hear much about the motor. I guess I did what everybody else did and got jdm h22a, but at least mine is in a 92cord!! F20 sounds like a real good motor. Head just like a h22 with steel sleeves!? U cant ask for more!! Im tryin to buy a h22 block from BOOSTED LUDE right now!

[allmotoronly]

ok i researched it some more. the 97-02 accord sir model featured a 180hp version of the F20B, and had a s-matic transmission (auto). The SiR-T featured a 5 speed manual trans with LSD and had 200hp. The s-matic could not handle the extra power so the auto engines had a different ecu. both are mechanically the same.
here are a few links of the specs and different models.

http://asia.vtec.net/article/CF4/

http://world.honda.com/news/1997/4970904.html

that should help explain.

[VTECin5th]

i get it

[allmotoronly]

I would like to see a F20B in a civic. that would be pretty cool. If you want any more info on the F20B, let me know... anybody that found my information helpful, hit me some rep points yo!!!

[o_bomb]

I would like to see a F20B in a civic. that would be pretty cool. If you want any more info on the F20B, let me know... anybody that found my information helpful, hit me some rep points yo!!!


Thanks bro for all the info! By the way how do u get rep points?? A noob question!

[allmotoronly]

at the top right of each post there is the post # of that thread, and beside that there is a silver thing that looks like a scale. click it. like I said, I am full of useless honda info.

[o_bomb]

at the top right of each post there is the post # of that thread, and beside that there is a silver thing that looks like a scale. click it. like I said, I am full of useless honda info.


thanks bro!!:goodjob:

[Ludester]

ok i researched it some more. the 97-02 accord sir model featured a 180hp version of the F20B, and had a s-matic transmission (auto). The SiR-T featured a 5 speed manual trans with LSD and had 200hp. The s-matic could not handle the extra power so the auto engines had a different ecu. both are mechanically the same.
here are a few links of the specs and different models.

http://asia.vtec.net/article/CF4/

http://world.honda.com/news/1997/4970904.html

that should help explain.


and here I thought I was the only one that knew about all this shit :rolleyes: .

Damn! :goodjob:

[Toreyjw1]

is the f22a compatible with vtec?? if so where can i buy the cam because my freind has a 93 accord and wants vtec kinda bad. the non vtec soch has the worst power band ever... when we dynoed it it put 115 hp and 135 tq...

[K24cb7coupe]

There is nothing wrong with buying a motor from ebay, i got mine from ebay and it been running strong since 03, with not problems. F20B's are good for all motor, bc there high reving motor but not boost friendly. If you want boost look into a h22a but make sure you get it tuned and i wouldnt go any higher than 10psi. Also there is there is the H22a type-S motor and H23vtec 98-02 accord sir and accord wagon motors. about 220hp, 215tq. If you want some more info on accord in general check out accordingly done .com everything you want know about accords can be found here.

[Minze]

f22b

[o_bomb]

I would get the f22b for the extra cam! Unless your talking about the usdm sohc vtec! Thats the f22b1 or b2!get the jdm one! Also when u change the timing belt on that motor u have to use one off a integra gsr! Crazy shit isnt it!