View Full Version : 3SGTE Swap into a '99 Celica
Dr Tweak
07-07-2006, 03:23 PM
Hey all, I'm Dr Tweak, self proclaimed Toyota Engine Swap Extraordinaire. I came across your fine forum and thought I'd say hello, and rather than make one of those boring "Hey, I'm Joe, I like long walks on the beach..." threads, I'd post up some of my work.
It's been quite a process working through my move down south and into the new shop here at Southern Car Customs in Savannah, but finally things are settling down and I've been able to get to work on this '99 Celica. I didn't have a camera available to show the first phase of work, which was replacing the timing belt, water pump, front main seal, thermostat, rear main seal, clutch, valve cover gasket, cap and rotor, and a few other things. I guess you'll have to just use your imagination for that. ;) The following pics were taken on Tuesday, Wednesday I was off, and I'll be back to work on this today.
Also, please excuse the mess since we're still in the process of moving! :)
Dropping the engine out of the car:
http://www.phoenixtuning.com/toyota/swaps/sean/sean1.jpg
Engine all resealed, with new stage 2 Spec 3S/5S custom clutch set:
http://www.phoenixtuning.com/toyota/swaps/sean/sean2.jpg
Now with the GT tranny removed from the 5S and installed onto the 3S:
http://www.phoenixtuning.com/toyota/swaps/sean/sean3.jpg
And getting the wiring done! Whoo what a mess! :)
http://www.phoenixtuning.com/toyota/swaps/sean/sean4.jpg
These pics were taken on Thursday:
Finishing up the harness work, check out my badass wiring workstation ;)
http://www.phoenixtuning.com/toyota/swaps/sean/sean5.jpg
You could believe this is a totally stock harness, couldn't you? :)
http://www.phoenixtuning.com/toyota/swaps/sean/sean6.jpg
I finished up the day by installing the harness and clocking the turbo. You can see here I just finished making a new bracket to hold the wastegate actuator. I'll be producing these after a little more R&D.
http://www.phoenixtuning.com/toyota/swaps/sean/sean7.jpg
I'll post up some more later. :) Enjoy!
-Doc
Mchnhead2k5
07-07-2006, 04:02 PM
glad you made the jump from VVt-i.net ... Bienvenidos a ImportAtlanta!
SNapper
07-07-2006, 04:08 PM
hah u found import atlanta...
you remember me?
Dr Tweak
07-07-2006, 04:09 PM
Hmmm... I do but I can't remember where from...
SNapper
07-07-2006, 04:10 PM
celica tech and what not. i sold u a few parts and u helped me with some wireing back in the day.
Dr Tweak
07-07-2006, 05:07 PM
Ooooh yeah :)
-Doc
Dr Tweak
07-07-2006, 05:20 PM
Okay, another update :)
Here's the engine pretty much ready for installation, you can see the turbo has been clocked and the wastegate actuator slightly relocated.
http://www.phoenixtuning.com/toyota/swaps/sean/sean8.jpg
Engine going in...
http://www.phoenixtuning.com/toyota/swaps/sean/sean9.jpg
Oh no! We forgot the "Dr Tweak" pose! Hmmm, I'll fix that...
http://www.phoenixtuning.com/toyota/swaps/sean/sean10.jpg
I just realized that pic looks kinda bad... hmmm....
I just took this one about 5 minutes ago, there it is :)
http://www.phoenixtuning.com/toyota/swaps/sean/sean11.jpg
I'm doing a late night tonight so there should be another update later on.
-Doc
EKnight
07-08-2006, 08:21 AM
nice..........
looking good, what downpipe do you have?
SNapper
07-08-2006, 12:09 PM
cool man. hey i wanna ask u about some power loss problems i'm having. i'll message u on google later.
Dr Tweak
07-10-2006, 02:12 PM
nice..........
looking good, what downpipe do you have?
Thanks. That right there is a downpipe I got off ebay, most people refer to them affectionately as the "SS Autocrap" downpipe. It's the only one that's offered for that engine, at this time at least.
The last three that I got from them have actually been pretty decent.
-Doc
EKnight
07-10-2006, 08:04 PM
Dont forget the Aussie!
Dr Tweak
07-10-2006, 10:05 PM
Got a link?
EKnight
07-11-2006, 06:05 AM
http://www.aussie-speed.com/
that can also be ordered though 985 motorsports on
http://www.alltrac.net
Dr Tweak
07-12-2006, 08:14 PM
Nice :)
Intercooler and piping installed...
http://www.phoenixtuning.com/toyota/swaps/sean/sean12.jpg
http://www.phoenixtuning.com/toyota/swaps/sean/sean13.jpg
PhAtBoYMr2
07-12-2006, 08:18 PM
nice my buddy had a fast ass celica swapped 3sgte. he ran a 13.5 with no turbo upgrade...pretty much just basic upgrades.
EKnight
07-13-2006, 06:11 AM
much cleaner with a clocked turbo
chuck
07-16-2006, 11:52 PM
sweet man, you ever do any work on MR2's?? i need a little 'wire tuck/engine bay harness' cleaning upping
Dr Tweak
07-17-2006, 07:31 AM
sweet man, you ever do any work on MR2's?? i need a little 'wire tuck/engine bay harness' cleaning upping
Yeah sure thing, just hit me up with what you need:
[email protected]
-Doc
happyhooder
07-23-2006, 10:19 PM
hey Dr. Tweak...
you think the 3sgte and the 4wd system would work on a 4wd matrix? if so how much are we looking at here cost wise???
cyb593
07-23-2006, 10:44 PM
i am from celitech and 6gc also. welcome to ia dr tweak in fact i emailed you a couple days ago bout my brothers 87 celi.
Dr Tweak
07-24-2006, 07:32 AM
hey Dr. Tweak...
you think the 3sgte and the 4wd system would work on a 4wd matrix? if so how much are we looking at here cost wise???
Yeah I think it could be done, it would take quite a bit of work though. You're probably looking at around $4500 or so for parts, and around $2500 for labor. Just a rough estimate off the top of my head, hit me up at
[email protected] if you want to go into detail about it.
-Doc
EKnight
07-24-2006, 08:27 PM
i imagine it would be like doing the corolla,
but the awd matrix is only pushing what 140hp at the crank? people have done a 3sgte in a rav 4 but the rav also has 3sfe, which is the same block so no custom motor mounts!
happyhooder
07-24-2006, 08:50 PM
i imagine it would be like doing the corolla,
yea i was thinking of the same thing... but i hope i don't have to modified too much of the under side of the car since i have a drivetrain in the rear... but i dunno... havn't really thought about it till i saw this post...
but the awd matrix is only pushing what 140hp at the crank?
:no: i wish but no... looking at 118hp/115tq at the crank but some one dyno a stock 4wd and powers at the wheels is at... 94.4hp/92tq... toyota really detune the 4wd because they think the 4wd system couldn't handle more power... :screwy:
GTScoob
07-24-2006, 10:48 PM
:no: i wish but no... looking at 118hp/115tq at the crank but some one dyno a stock 4wd and powers at the wheels is at... 94.4hp/92tq... toyota really detune the 4wd because they think the 4wd system couldn't handle more power... :screwy:
Probably true. AWD is much harder on transmissions since speedshifts will just torque the shit out of the drivetrain instead of spinning tires like any other high HP 2wd car.
Really clean swaps. Have you ever done a WRX motor swap into an older chassis?
EKnight
07-25-2006, 12:05 PM
Probably true. AWD is much harder on transmissions since speedshifts will just torque the shit out of the drivetrain instead of spinning tires like any other high HP 2wd car.
nicely stated!
Sport1.3
07-27-2006, 01:54 PM
what ab one of those bad boys (3sgte) in the back of my MKI MR2? that would be a freakin hwy missle lol. MK1.5 FTW!
EKnight
07-27-2006, 07:07 PM
its been done b4 right?
Sport1.3
07-28-2006, 08:57 AM
many have been done...its called an MK1.5. they are a bitch to do but man r they FAST! they also use the 3SGE, and BEAMS 3SGE!! the whole rear half of the car has to be converted to a MKII lol
heres a dyno of one with a CT20b and an ATS rom tune/341whp Uncorrected!!!
http://www.mk1point5.com/Movies/dyno.mpg
http://upload.3sgtemr2.com/./userfiles/stevieg/PICT0253.JPG
http://noshoesspeedworks.com/denodyno1.jpg
http://www.carpron.com/multisite/d/51507-1/IMG_2464.JPG
haha they even have V8 MKI MR2's heres a 4.6l DOHC Northstar V8 out of a Caddy!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-933957589203033394&q=mr2
The Green Monster
07-28-2006, 09:28 AM
oh god i want a v8 mr2 lol
the exhaust exiting through the license plate area was fuckin bad ass
Sport1.3
07-28-2006, 09:37 AM
that same guy (Bill Strong @Racing Strong Motorsports) has built an old school 500ci Caddy V8 in an MKI as well...the guy is nuts!
EKnight
07-29-2006, 11:06 AM
i would love a gen 3 engine! somebody buy me one
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