Vteckidd
07-07-2006, 01:07 AM
Now where do you want to start Jason, let me tell the WHOLE story since you like to only tell half truths.
Jason Wallace/AccordM3 offered to US/Mainstream to let us borrow his car to do some header testing on his h22 engine. He offered the car to us, we NEVER asked him to give us the car.
Jason had an RMF header already. We made another Header to test against the RMF. In yrade for letting us borrow his car, we gave him FREE DYNO TIME and a CHIPPED ECU. He was tuning with an AEM Standalone, and the first time we tried to tune it we notcied major problems with his current map (timing was advanced 47 degrees). We are not a certified AEM shop so we decided to let Scotty tune it with Crome. We asked mr. wallace if that was ok an he said "sure"
We fully tuned his vehicle with Crome, an his car made 225whp. We then swapped headers an retuned the car an made 227whp. The most his car ever made was with our tuner on our dyno. It cost him $0
Upon reinstalling the RMF header, apparently Charles forgot to install a little 2in long 1/4 in thick bracket that the RMF header comes with. About 5 weeks later, Jason calls me an says taht his header broke an that its our fault. I asked him why, he explained it was missing that little brace. I told him that it was prob not the reason, it was prob because he was running it open header, but hey, that sucks. I tolf him that i have sold 8 RMF headers locally, an out of those 8, 7 of them hade broken the way his had, an all 7 of those had FLEX PIPE AND THE RMF BRACE BRACKET HIS WAS MISSING. i explained to im that the RMF brace would prob NOT have saved his header as that is my PROFESSIONAL OPINION with my personal EXPERIENCE with RMF headers. i beleive i have the most experinece out of anyone in atlanta.
Also ill give you some backround info on myself regarding RMF:
sold the 1st RMF in Georgia 2 years ago
Tested 3 different RMF headers in independant tests
Talk directly with RMF at his home an dealt exclusively with IPH
RMFs show piece header was on my 2.0 LSVTEC
3 of our street car highest whp NA cars in the state have RMF headers
After all this i told Jason that if he brought us the broken header i would have Turbo Dave reweld it an polish it back to its original condition. I also told him that if he sent it back to RMF i would pay whatever welding fee RMF charged . i also told him to buy another brace an i would refund him. He did neither of those options.
All this happened about 4 months ago and Jason has actually come by to get work done at our shop about 2 weeks ago. He had us FINALLY install a flex pipe on his civic, an to my memory, he still had not installed the RMF BRACE. The header had no brace even though he comlpained it corresponded to its CRACKING in the first place. He went to the track during a race 2 weeks ago called GRUDGE MATCH and raced the car, i assume WITHOUT a the RMF brace STILL.
So if it was such a big deal jason, why isnt it on the car now?
Jason got mad because he started some shit on IA and i called him out on it. Now he wants to try an bad mouth mainstream because we have PERSONAL drama. He put a quote in his signature bashing mainstream an i warned him TWICE as well as other moderators that shop bashing of any kind is not allowed. he continued to do it so i banned him. I personally was just picking on him in the beginning but then he took it to another level.
thats my only response in this thread jason, have at it, i could really care less. post it on HT too if you want.
Here are the original threads from HT where we tuned his car an he gives us praise.
http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1534142
http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1568245&page=1
Mike
Jason Wallace/AccordM3 offered to US/Mainstream to let us borrow his car to do some header testing on his h22 engine. He offered the car to us, we NEVER asked him to give us the car.
Jason had an RMF header already. We made another Header to test against the RMF. In yrade for letting us borrow his car, we gave him FREE DYNO TIME and a CHIPPED ECU. He was tuning with an AEM Standalone, and the first time we tried to tune it we notcied major problems with his current map (timing was advanced 47 degrees). We are not a certified AEM shop so we decided to let Scotty tune it with Crome. We asked mr. wallace if that was ok an he said "sure"
We fully tuned his vehicle with Crome, an his car made 225whp. We then swapped headers an retuned the car an made 227whp. The most his car ever made was with our tuner on our dyno. It cost him $0
Upon reinstalling the RMF header, apparently Charles forgot to install a little 2in long 1/4 in thick bracket that the RMF header comes with. About 5 weeks later, Jason calls me an says taht his header broke an that its our fault. I asked him why, he explained it was missing that little brace. I told him that it was prob not the reason, it was prob because he was running it open header, but hey, that sucks. I tolf him that i have sold 8 RMF headers locally, an out of those 8, 7 of them hade broken the way his had, an all 7 of those had FLEX PIPE AND THE RMF BRACE BRACKET HIS WAS MISSING. i explained to im that the RMF brace would prob NOT have saved his header as that is my PROFESSIONAL OPINION with my personal EXPERIENCE with RMF headers. i beleive i have the most experinece out of anyone in atlanta.
Also ill give you some backround info on myself regarding RMF:
sold the 1st RMF in Georgia 2 years ago
Tested 3 different RMF headers in independant tests
Talk directly with RMF at his home an dealt exclusively with IPH
RMFs show piece header was on my 2.0 LSVTEC
3 of our street car highest whp NA cars in the state have RMF headers
After all this i told Jason that if he brought us the broken header i would have Turbo Dave reweld it an polish it back to its original condition. I also told him that if he sent it back to RMF i would pay whatever welding fee RMF charged . i also told him to buy another brace an i would refund him. He did neither of those options.
All this happened about 4 months ago and Jason has actually come by to get work done at our shop about 2 weeks ago. He had us FINALLY install a flex pipe on his civic, an to my memory, he still had not installed the RMF BRACE. The header had no brace even though he comlpained it corresponded to its CRACKING in the first place. He went to the track during a race 2 weeks ago called GRUDGE MATCH and raced the car, i assume WITHOUT a the RMF brace STILL.
So if it was such a big deal jason, why isnt it on the car now?
Jason got mad because he started some shit on IA and i called him out on it. Now he wants to try an bad mouth mainstream because we have PERSONAL drama. He put a quote in his signature bashing mainstream an i warned him TWICE as well as other moderators that shop bashing of any kind is not allowed. he continued to do it so i banned him. I personally was just picking on him in the beginning but then he took it to another level.
thats my only response in this thread jason, have at it, i could really care less. post it on HT too if you want.
Here are the original threads from HT where we tuned his car an he gives us praise.
http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1534142
http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1568245&page=1
Mike