mr.vteckidd what do u think

[jdmcrx12]

ok im gonna do my b16 swap in about a month and i want to boost it. but i would like to boost it without bottom end work and head work right now. how much boost is safe with you tuning it and how much power can be made safely. thanx and what do u think about ssac for a low boost project like this. i will eventually do botom end work and head work but that will be in about 9-10 months lmk what u think.

[IntegraXTR]

7-8 psi should be ok

[jdmcrx12]

yeah thats what i figured on boost but i wanna know what kinda of power i can make with a good tune

[iloveboost]

The weakest point in your setup will be that SSAC kit.

Main Stream can fab, tune, and install a very reliable turbo kit for you for about as much as you'll spend replacing parts on your SSAC kit.

Speaking from experience here... do it once, do it right.

Edit: But you should be able to do 250whp all day long on stock block. I've seen people push the envelope at 300whp, but don't expect it to last if you beat on your car a lot.

[jdmcrx12]

yeah i was thinkin about it i may as well get a good kit from them since i do plan on doin botom end work and head work in the future thanx iloveboost when u gonna take that teg to the track i want to see some 1/4 mile #s

[iloveboost]

I'm hoping soon. Need to find some slicks first.

[jdmcrx12]

yeah thats what i was hoping to here i want about 250 but i want it to be reliable and i dont dump the clutch at 6000 at every stop sign and my shit gets oil change at every 1500- 2000 miles so i take care of it thanks

[jdmcrx12]

summit u know where it is and theres a set on drag wheels on here for sale too hurry up i wanna see it

[iloveboost]

If nothing else, at least replace the SSAC manifold.

[jdmcrx12]

yeah i havent got the kit yet i will prolly just save that money and get mainstream to build me a kit

[iloveboost]

yeah i havent got the kit yet i will prolly just save that money and get mainstream to build me a kit


You'll be a lot happier if you go that route. That way, when you build the bottom end, all you've gotta do is turn up the boost and not replace your turbo kit, haha.

[jdmcrx12]

yeah i will end upo doin that but it will take me longer to get it done but it will be worth the wait and one day i hope to be pushing #s like u

[jdmcrx12]

how much does mainstreams turbo kits start at installed

[jdmcrx12]

check these slicks out they would work the wheels look good too

http://forums.importatlanta.com/showthread.php?t=67183

[Vteckidd]

my .02

for a cheap boost project SSAC is fine, just be prepared to fix it if it breaks. If your prepared for that, then go for it.

B16s dont last past 230whp. They have small ringlands and are very PRONE to BREAKING. EVERY B16 that we do with a turbo lasts 6months, then they come back with cracked ringlands. Its just a problem the b16 pistons have. nothing you can do about it.

[jdmcrx12]

will it last if i put low compression pistons and good rods in it or do the after market pistons have the small ring gland too should i just ride my b16 and when i boost it get a ls blosk and do ls/vtec i would rather stick with the b 16 if possible

[jdmcrx12]

and i think i woul;d rather get one of yalls kits than take a chance on fuckin somthin up bad

[Vteckidd]

the only way to solve the "ringland problem" is :
Cheap way:
Put GSR pistons in it, they can hold 300whp, lowers compression to 9:1

Expensive way:
Buy JE,CP, Wiseco Pistons an Eagle rods
Rods an pistons run $800, Machine work about $300

[SLow_POke]

the only way to solve the "ringland problem" is :
Cheap way:
Put GSR pistons in it, they can hold 300whp, lowers compression to 9:1

Expensive way:
Buy JE,CP, Wiseco Pistons an Eagle rods
Rods an pistons run $800, Machine work about $300

if you gonna go the expensive way might as well resleeve it . since its going to be apart . save extra cash make it last

also depends im pretty sure your gonna get boost happy:D safer int he long run :2cents:

[jdmcrx12]

yeah i would rather go the exspensive way but the sleeving is outa my price range but in a year or so i may get it sleeved but i might go ahead and do botom end work and shit then boost it thanks for the opinions

[Vteckidd]

if you dont plan on making over 500whp, you dont need sleeves

[jdmcrx12]

yeah i dont plan on makin over 500 whp i want around 450 whp if i put low comp pistons in it and rods how much do yalls turbo kits run lmk thanks

[BTEC]

ARP HEAD STUDS AND THICKER HEAD GASKET. HKS HEADGASKET DROPS UR COMPRESSION TO AROUND 8.6 WITH STOCK B16 PISTONS. INLINE PRO SELLS A 2 MIL HEAD GASKET THAT DROP UR COMPRESSION TO LIKE 9.0 RUNNING 15 POUNDS ON STOCK MTR AND UPGRADED FUEL SYSTEM A HATCH MADE 326 TO THE WHEELS.

I HAD THE HKS HEAD GASKET A SPIKED 16 POUNDS A FEW TIMES AND WHEN I TOOK IT APART THE PISTONS WERE FINE. MINE BLEW UP BC OF OIL PUMP FAILURE (SPENT BEARINGS AND SMOKED BC OIL CHANGES ARE WAY OVER RATED)

[jdmcrx12]

haha oil changes over rated damn the thick head gasket deal sounds nice but i would rather be safe and run like 10 lbs like that. but i dont know i think im gonna ride the stock motor, no boost for a while, then go get a turbo kit made by msp. and run like 6 lbs for a while then do the botom end work and head work. but when the time come ill let every one know how it goes.

thanks everyone

[BTEC]

haha oil changes over rated damn the thick head gasket deal sounds nice but i would rather be safe and run like 10 lbs like that. but i dont know i think im gonna ride the stock motor, no boost for a while, then go get a turbo kit made by msp. and run like 6 lbs for a while then do the botom end work and head work. but when the time come ill let every one know how it goes.

thanks everyone
GOOD IDEA. 5 POUNDS WITH THAT DAMN HKS HEAD GASKET FELT LIKE A STOCK B16. LOL!!! I SAY U SHOULD BOOST IT, BLOW IT UP, BUILD IT AND REALLY BOOST IT. THAT WAY U CAN LIVE ON THE EDGE/CARELESS IF IT BLOWS UP BC UR GONNA BUILD IT NE WAY. LIKE THIS AT 15 PSI ON STOCK B16: OOOOOOHHHH SSSSHHHHHII *BOOM!!* DAMN.

[iloveboost]

You've got a B16 head. You won't need headwork for 450whp.

Just focus on the turbo kit and getting some forged internals.

[SLow_POke]

yeah i dont plan on makin over 500 whp i want around 450 whp if i put low comp pistons in it and rods how much do yalls turbo kits run lmk thanks

LOL .i tought your goal was around 600WHP like another member on here .. .my misunderstanding:) .

[jdmcrx12]

yeah i wish i could afford 600 hp but i want need cams springs nothin for 450 whp

[jdmcrx12]

yeah i would like too have 600 but 450 is more than enough for a street/strip car and its more in my range but it will still be a while before i get that much

[BTEC]

yeah i would like too have 600 but 450 is more than enough for a street/strip car and its more in my range but it will still be a while before i get that much
IF U MAKE 450 WHP, 600 IS ONLY A BOTTLE, A FEW NIK NAKS AND A BUTTON AWAY. LOL!!!! :burnout:

[SLow_POke]

yeah i would like too have 600 but 450 is more than enough for a street/strip car and its more in my range but it will still be a while before i get that much

sounds good keep us updated:goodjob:

[jdmcrx12]

yeah i will and im not sprayin on top of a turbo i dont care what ne one says i anit gonna do it

[SLow_POke]

yeah i will and im not sprayin on top of a turbo i dont care what ne one says i anit gonna do it

i luv the bottle, still bottle feed :D

[BTEC]

yeah i will and im not sprayin on top of a turbo i dont care what ne one says i anit gonna do it
DNT BE A SISSY, CMON. OK JUST ONE TIME WITH A 50 SHOT?

[IntegraXTR]

yeah i will and im not sprayin on top of a turbo i dont care what ne one says i anit gonna do it

you say that now, but if you ever got on the bottle, I bet you won't leave it

[BTEC]

you say that now, but if you ever got on the bottle, I bet you won't leave it
I LEFT IT. I ADMITT I ALMOST SHAT MYSELF EVERTIME I SQUEEZED IT BUT IT WAS FUN. ILL DO IT AGAIN THOUGH, JUST NOT WITH A STOCK MTR.

[jdmcrx12]

yeah ur right thats why im not gonna try it cause i dont wanna blow that shit up

[obd1kenobi]

I LEFT IT. I ADMITT I ALMOST SHAT MYSELF EVERTIME I SQUEEZED IT BUT IT WAS FUN. ILL DO IT AGAIN THOUGH, JUST NOT WITH A STOCK MTR.

Hey Hey Squeeze it Nigga!

[IntegraXTR]

^^ it was worth a shot though

[BTEC]

yeah ur right thats why im not gonna try it cause i dont wanna blow that shit up
UNLIKE ME, GET URS TUNED. I THREW THE KIT ON MY CAR IN LIKE 2 HRS WITH THE HELP OF A FRIEND. HE WAS WROKING IN THE BACK AND I WAS WORKING IN THE FRONT. SPUR OF THE MOMENT SHIT USUALLY END UP BRAKING, GUESS I GOT LUCKY.

[jdmcrx12]

yeah all i want to do is run mid 12s maybe a little quiker but i think a 450 whp b16 in my completely stripped crx with just a dash no aac or heat components and 2 seats will run 12s no problem we'll seee

[BTEC]

yeah all i want to do is run mid 12s maybe a little quiker but i think a 450 whp b16 in my completely stripped crx with just a dash no aac or heat components and 2 seats will run 12s no problem we'll seee
IF IT DNT, U HAVE SIRIUS TRACTION ISSUES OR U REALLY CANT DRIVE AND SHOULDNT BE THE PILOT OF A 450WHP CRX. LOL!!!

[IntegraXTR]

probably more towards traction issues, especially in a gutted rex. And then if you can't drive then hondata has an option called launch control to help you out a lil. Or you can just let btec drive for you.

[BTEC]

probably more towards traction issues, especially in a gutted rex. And then if you can't drive then hondata has an option called launch control to help you out a lil. Or you can just let btec drive for you.
LAUNCH CONTROL IS TO GET U OUT OF THE HOLE BUT IF U R GRANNY SHIFTING OR IF UR GEARBANGING TO PADEL STOMPING COORDINATION IS OFF THEN U MIGHT NOT MAKE THE CUT. LOL!!!

[jdmcrx12]

yeah i can drive and im lookin into traction bars and ill try 8 inchs if that dont work ill go 10 inchs

but i just calculated it on a time calc thing and it should get in the 10s but that will work

[jdmcrx12]

slicks

[jdmcrx12]

and trackbite

[2.0civic]

yeah i can drive and im lookin into traction bars and ill try 8 inchs if that dont work ill go 10 inchs

but i just calculated it on a time calc thing and it should get in the 10s but that will work


um track bars on a street car?? lol at this thread and you in general

[jdmcrx12]

it is mainly gonna be a strip car but do u have to go in every thread i make and say some bullshit

gtfo

[IntegraXTR]

^^lol

[2.0civic]

it is mainly gonna be a strip car but do u have to go in every thread i make and say some bullshit

gtfo
no i just hate your ass cause you keep saying stupid shit. You make a thread for someone to race your cousins car like its some hot shit or something, then you call out a company that you have no right to do because you had no involvement in the situation other than sticking your nose in your cousins asshole, and now you want a 450 hp crx and hope to break 12's. and you have 700+ posts that if consilidated should be around ~200. so the reason i read your threads is because

A. You are a dumbass
B. You say stupid shit so i get a kick out of it
C. Do a little research and stop trying to make threads about shit that isnt yours(although i must admit, this one is yours)
D. compound your thoughts into one posts so i dont have to read 6 one lined half assed ideas in a row.

That is all.

[jdmcrx12]

he goes in every thread i make and talks shit
i dont know why he does that shit i guess cause he dosnt like my opinion about somethings

[2.0civic]

he goes in every thread i make and talks shit
i dont know why he does that shit i guess cause he dosnt like my opinion about somethings


Ding ding ding!!! we have a winner!! I honestly think you should have your ass beat over the whole pro import thing and you are a complete dumbass. Then you go into mike's(vteckidds) pricing thread and say you will work for cheap to learn shit AFTER the fact that you claimed to fix pro import's fuck ups on your cousins car, which you didnt know shit about the situation. thats why i hate you. oh, and you called someone else a noob thats been here over a year longer than you when you have 500 more posts because all you do is start drama threads and i can almost bet most of them are in two threads. Then you start this thread and want peoples opinions. DO FUCKING REASEARCH!!! you want 450 hp crx but want it to be streetable but dont want to fix things and you want to run 12's...if you would do reasearch you would have figured out that mikes crx ran better than that in a ALL MOTOR setup. other than that, you have nothing useful hear, so go DIAF.

[jdmcrx12]

what did i say i fixed

the loose distributer: if u cant tighten 3 bolts than ur stupid
the fuses: wow who cant push fuses in
the ecu was hangin out in the floor: there were 4 bolts that hold the ecu in

and when i said LEARN i really was talkin about like wireing my own engine swap and like turbo kits and shit i havent done before so shove it up ur ass i dint say that i had to redo the engine swap or anything big so fuck u and gtfo

[2.0civic]

i cant help im a dumbass and bitched about my cousin paying 2200 for a swap that was half assed to begin with then stuck my nose in his business and called a shop out on IA because im retarded and love drama. I have a peice of shit crx i want to do a swap on but want to save money but i dont realize cheap isnt reliable and ill prolly blame someone else when my shit breaks. i make 6 posts in a row to form one semi-complete thought so i can get my post count up and then call someone else a noob because i think im smarter than them, when in reality, im a peice of shit. im going to go kill myself now. Later guys.

best thing ive heard you say yet

[jdmcrx12]

ok guys this fucktard is getting on my nerves. i apologized for my fuck up. and i said it was my personal opinion. and this guy is in my thread talkin shit still. And i dont know how the ignore list works but i cant see his post unless i click a thing at the top but if yall can see it who is starting the drama. wtf

[2.0civic]

what did i say i fixed

the loose distributer: if u cant tighten 3 bolts than ur stupid
the fuses: wow who cant push fuses in
the ecu was hangin out in the floor: there were 4 bolts that hold the ecu in

and when i said LEARN i really was talkin about like wireing my own engine swap and like turbo kits and shit i havent done before so shove it up ur ass i dint say that i had to redo the engine swap or anything big so fuck u and gtfo

use word and f7 form now on. your bad spelling is killing me.

its wiring and didnt(technically didn't but im not talking about mispelled slang) so before you call other poeple stupid, look how fucking dumb you look

[jdmcrx12]

dude i spelled havn't wrong sorry and i spelled didn't wrong cause i missed a button sorry u are looking for nething to talk shit about arent u

[2.0civic]

ok guys this fucktard is getting on my nerves. i apologized for my fuck up. and i said it was my personal opinion. and this guy is in my thread talkin shit still. And i dont know how the ignore list works but i cant see his post unless i click a thing at the top but if yall can see it who is starting the drama. wtf


Yes…a 17-year-old shittalker who starts gay ass threads like

http://forums.importatlanta.com/showthread.php?t=66015

http://forums.importatlanta.com/showthread.php?t=65888

http://forums.importatlanta.com/showthread.php?t=66015
http://forums.importatlanta.com/showthread.php?t=66735

That’s just a few
and every time he gets a chance, contradicts himself.
BTW here’s mikes motor. As I said before, search is your friend
http://forums.importatlanta.com/showthread.php?t=58231

http://forums.importatlanta.com/showthread.php?t=55568



as far as apoligizing for fucking up, don't. You aren't sorry and you keep doing it so just go kill yourself.

[2.0civic]

and since mikes already given you his answer, as this thread was directed to him, you should delete this shit if you got the answer you wanted. after going through and reading your threads, you just went form wanting/having a all motor LS to wanting a boosted b16....as i said, contradicting everything you say

[jdmcrx12]

ok dude im finished with u but i do like mike motor and his #s but i like boost

[jdmcrx12]

i did have an ls but i dont no more i want to go with the b16

[2.0civic]

ok dude im finished with u but i do like mike motor and his #s but i like being a cocksmoking douchebag so please leave me alone or ill tell mommy. please, stop pointing out that im retarded.

ok

[2.0civic]

i did have an ls but i dont no more i want to go with the b16

i thought your car didnt run and the LS was your cousins??
BTW, boosted LS in EF is all someone like you who doesnt know how to drive needs. and you will have more tourque than b16

[B18c1Turboed]

Heres what i would do.
Get some eagle rods
Je pistons 9:7:1 Compression
AEBS headstuds
Stock Headgasket

Head
Springs and retainers

Get the block Hones and decked as long with the head.
Put all that shit toghter with a nice size turbo you can hit 500Hp and be safe!

Machine shop charged me 100 to deck and Hone bottom end. And Peter NOT A SITE SPONSOR You might spend a little more cash,but it will be done right and can handle the HP!!

Remember you will need a EMS to run that high boost also,I recommened Hondata but you can go the cheap way. YOu will also need injectors so its going to cost you near 1500 just to do the motor plus turbo kit!!!

I know becasue i have built 3 cars already all over 500hp on low boost!!!

[2.0civic]

BTW, not to keep calling you out but what year starion did you have??

[jdmcrx12]

thank u b18c1turboed yeah i agree and i only wanna make around 400-450 and i think i will go a little lower compression ratio but yeah thanks

[jdmcrx12]

i had an 87 starion and joshua8988 can back that up ask me a question about something on them and ill answer so u will believe me something visual cause i never touched the motor

[jdmcrx12]

by the way the call out to swole happened and tommy won so that one i won so u cant bring that up

[2.0civic]

by the way the call out to swole happened and tommy won so that one i won so u cant bring that up

yes i can. That whoel situation didnt involve you other than you being a major douche about it and bringing it up. i still want to see the rematch

[Vteckidd]

bottom line is, in an EF, we just built a b16 that made 356/2XX all it had was rods an pistons, one of our manifolds/downpipe, and injectors.

Our turbo kit with a Turbo Dave manifold runs $4200 an it comes with EVERYTHING.
Turbo
Manifold Full Race style
Injectors RC
Engine management
HKS/Greddy BOV
Tial Wastegate

thats installed.

Our cheaper kit with a log manifold and DSM injectors runs $3500 installed. it can support as much as a stock motor can handle, around 250. if you decide to build your motor, you can still reuse the kit and it can handle 350whp.

for 400+ we reccomend upgrading your manifold to one of our custom units.