the "how to help halfwit with his modest 13 sec ef build, not vteckidd vs everyone"

[Halfwit]

so guys here we have it

back to help me, not argue about your old car that ran 5's.

sohc is out of question, itll make me feel like less of a man. (if its possible)

here is options now
b16
gsr
itr (ehh maybe cost = alot) is it worth the cost??

come on guys asking for 13s isnt much.

[Halfwit]

it doesnt all have to depend on cost, but cost is an issue, it all comes down to value, best motor i can get for what i am looking for but not the most expensive motor, needs to have potential, but doenst have to be the king.

not looking fo the "cheapest fast car u can get fur yur money"
so no more sohc things please.

[99SI]

If you have to go dual, don't waste your time with the B16. GSR longblock. With a similar build to what I have you can run some really good times in an EF. The only reason I built the b16 to begin with was because my car came with it. Otherwise I wouldn't have bothered. Don't get me wrong, I loved my car with the motor once we got done and it would have more than likely run well into the 13's in your chassis. But starting from scratch go with the GSR, get a GOOD header, intake, and let MSP build you an exhaust you should be happy for a little bit. Then decide if you want to boost, build NA, or run spray. Get ready to continually spend bunches of money, and I hope you turn out with a car that you really enjoy.

[TIGERJC]

save for a k24 swap, shit thats all you need

[Halfwit]

If you have to go dual, don't waste your time with the B16. GSR longblock. With a similar build to what I have you can run some really good times in an EF. The only reason I built the b16 to begin with was because my car came with it. Otherwise I wouldn't have bothered. Don't get me wrong, I loved my car with the motor once we got done and it would have more than likely run well into the 13's in your chassis. But starting from scratch go with the GSR, get a GOOD header, intake, and let MSP build you an exhaust you should be happy for a little bit. Then decide if you want to boost, build NA, or run spray. Get ready to continually spend bunches of money, and I hope you turn out with a car that you really enjoy.

that is what i am leaning towards, but i might look into ITR.. is the extra cost worth it..?

[FORTHEWIN]

bleh EF's are fuckin ugly IMO. but i drive a vdub, and some folks dont like those

[KevinT707]

I don't think the extra couple grand on an ITR is worth it. Don't get a B16 either, having no torque sucks, even in an EF, I know because I use to have one. So that leaves you with getting a GSR, then you'll be in the mid to high 14 sec range. With a little bit of nitrous you'll be into the 13s!

[FORTHEWIN]

oh, and go with the b18c1, b16 are a waste, ant the c5(itr) has the same amount of tourqe as the c1(gsr). get the tranny from a type r tho. lsd

[99SI]

A good choice if you are going motor and want something good is to get the Si tranny like what's in my car. 4.4 FD makes it really nice to keep it n the power band and much cheaper than an ITR. Then you can get a CTR/ITR diff for around 290-350 shipped from the guy i got mine and you'll have the ITR tranny with what IMO is an optimal gear for the Honda. The ITR 4.79 FD is a little steep. I am already around 4000 rpm at 70mph with my car. If you were just road racing/autox it would be better to have the shorter gear but for a drag racer/dd the 4.4 will be really good. You should be able to cross the 1320 maxing out 4th once you do some mods and with the right height tire on it.

[IntegraXTR]

well out of what you listed, b16 is out of the question, but with the right connections you can get a full ITR swap for about 5k and break 13s all day. But I still vote for sohc turbo.

[SampaGuy]

sell it and buy ur 240 back if its already sold

[Goinfasterthanu]

h22

[Goinfasterthanu]

30mpg.. low 13s all day on street tires!

[Tank]

ill second the h22 ftw, once i get my daily eg all im doing is H22 and let it ride I/H/E

[Goinfasterthanu]

ill second the h22 ftw, once i get my daily eg all im doing is H22 and let it ride I/H/E


Sweet... you have seen the light my friend..!!

[fight club]

money no object? do the k24 block/k20a head frankenstien with either an mild all motor build or turbo the bitch. thatll be fast + original in these parts.

[§treet_§peed]

i've already seen that done. heard about it from one of my friends from down south told me or should i say introduce me to a guy that has already done that swap... just saying....

[fight club]

soi your friend knows a guy with the swap down south. cool. now lets play a game. you know of 1 person in the "area". now, within the next 10 seconds, name everyone you know with a b18. k? my point exactly. having a swap whose number of owners in the area is less than 100= original to me. lol.

[§treet_§peed]

v-tec b18 or non??

[§treet_§peed]

i know of seveal people with b18's:

Dusty 96 Gold teg with a LS B18
Dustin 90 Primed EF LS B18
Tyler 97 Riced Bergandy with red flames teg LS B18
^from gainesville
Possium Blue EG ITR and a 97 Blue GSR teg
Alex (champwhiteeg6) white EG LS/Vtec B18
^couple peeps i know from down south

[§treet_§peed]

BTW, JDM GSR soon to be in my car...hehehe!!

[§treet_§peed]

just saying all this not to be a smart ass though....

[SLow_POke]

hmmm cost efective lsvtec. would preffer GSR head but b16 will do . ASSUMING UR a good driver 13 for sure p30 pistons on ur ls rods , decent cams valvetrain, might even have money to put lsd in ur ride

everyone has there own opinion

[fight club]

just saying all this not to be a smart ass though....

you missed my point lol.

[BigPoppaHurtm]

Get a k24 out of an accord or odysee with an jdm itr tranny or type s tranny with an lsd upgrade, and throw some spray on there for kicks. While you have the tranny out its probably best to get shorter gears. Im not sure which gear ratios work best for these transmissions so your gonna have to research that. Good luck.

[Halfwit]

you missed my point lol.
lol he thought HE was proving his point..but he proved yours..lol




GUYS I AM GOING WITH A GSR. stock for a few months, then built all mota

[hondababie69]

tyler dont have his teg ne more it got totaled


i know of seveal people with b18's:

Dusty 96 Gold teg with a LS B18
Dustin 90 Primed EF LS B18
Tyler 97 Riced Bergandy with red flames teg LS B18
^from gainesville
Possium Blue EG ITR and a 97 Blue GSR teg
Alex (champwhiteeg6) white EG LS/Vtec B18
^couple peeps i know from down south

[Halfwit]

tyler dont have his teg ne more it got totaled


NO ONE CARES, GTFO OUT MY THREAD.

[§treet_§peed]

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LMMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Halfwit FTMW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[§treet_§peed]

oh yeah forgot to put this. but as i stated in a thread not to long ago that just proves my point even more that tyler can't drive!

[Halfwit]

back to topic,bitches.

but yes, halfwit ftmfw

[93H22ACX]

back to topic,bitches.

but yes, halfwit ftmfw

Since you want only those 3 choices...B16, B18C1, D- FI

B18C1...more lowend than b16, 1.8L, has room for more power either NA or FI, cable of 600+whp STOCK MOTOR, has VTEC, Has DOCH, has oil squirters LOL, you get my point....

[Halfwit]

Since you want only those 3 choices...B16, B18C1, D- FI

B18C1...more lowend than b16, 1.8L, has room for more power either NA or FI, cable of 600+whp STOCK MOTOR, has VTEC, Has DOCH, has oil squirters LOL, you get my point....
that was the defining factors of the choice.

[SiR_Boost]

:stupid:

[afwfjustin]

You can get an F20C for 5K and spend a *little* more to make it RWD :)

Ok maybe it'd be more than a *little*

[an0therh22]

yea i got a h22 accord way stronger than my single cam now all i need is a h23 block i think u should go h22 or b18c1 for what its worth

[Halfwit]

yea i got a h22 accord way stronger than my single cam now all i need is a h23 block i think u should go h22 or b18c1 for what its worth
yeah what i am thinking now is get the b18c1 for the crx, then get an obd2 h22 for my dd ek hatch and keep it stock, but still streetable.

right now i cant even make it up a hill starting at 60 without downshifting to 3rd halfway up.. = need bigger motor

[hondababie69]

halfwit dont know why u got to hate i was just telling matt that tyler got his acura totaled ty

[hondababie69]

it was not tylers fault some hispanic drunk guy ran the red light and hit him like he was driving this big truck ty didnt stand a chance ne wayz:mad:

[Halfwit]

halfwit dont know why u got to hate i was just telling matt that tyler got his acura totaled ty
then call him, if u see the name of this thread, it doesnt state anywhere for the need of this kind of info.

[§treet_§peed]

:stupid:

[§treet_§peed]

:werd:

[CHADbee]

u should get a sr20 bottom end and slap a b16 head on it, and use the SRT-4 tranny.

[Halfwit]

u should get a sr20 bottom end and slap a b16 head on it, and use the SRT-4 tranny.
i thought about that for a while, but the turbo spindles in the srt-4 tranny would cause compression lag, the sr20 bottom would mess up the spark plugs on the vtecness.

[§treet_§peed]

^^^Bwahahahahaha!!

[§treet_§peed]

she enjoys spending time with her new 16year old husband, and she's carryin his baby!!! :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :jerkit: .......pause to breathe...........:lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:


sorry i messed up your pretty thread casey......:bigok:

[CHADbee]

i thought about that for a while, but the turbo spindles in the srt-4 tranny would cause compression lag, the sr20 bottom would mess up the spark plugs on the vtecness.
damn, ur a smarter than i thought u were.

[Halfwit]

damn, ur a smarter than i thought u were.
ive been talkingto srt4 guys,... u know how smart they are!

[jdmcrx12]

im personally gonna go b16 boost in my crx but i see you have rulled out the b16 but g/l with your build i wanna see it run when its complete

[Halfwit]

well see how ours go up against eachother...should be interesting..seems like a good match.

[§treet_§peed]

lol at your sig casey

[Halfwit]

it will be like that for a while..^

now if i cant find a crx or hatch its all done for...

[Vteckidd]

I would do the GSR only because of what Bee said. and what i have been saying ALL ALONG.

ease of installation
best bang for the buck
great candidate for NA or BOost
tons of bolt ons from OEM to Aftermarket

For your EK, yes id do an H22. I would still NOT DO AN H22 IN A CRX, PERIOD

[Goinfasterthanu]

eg does good with the h22 also....Easy swap.. but yes h22 in a crx is a big PITA!!