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tony
06-09-2006, 08:55 PM
That define a man.. what do you guys think? I was reading mens health and it had an article listing these 5:


CHOOSING TO MARRY
This moment comes long before you pop the question. Ask yourself not whether you'll still want to sleep with her in 20 years (you will), but how you'll react when you discover what foul brand of sugar and spice she's truly made of. A promising answer: "We're still a pretty good team."

BECOMING A FATHER
There are tons of fatherhood variables, but we do know one simple truth: The only times you'll suck at being a dad are the moments you refuse to put your kids' needs first. If you're ready to prioritize them consistently, you'll cruise.

RECEIVING YOUR FIRST REAL DEFEAT
We don't mean losing to Springfield during your sophomore year. The adult defeats--job losses, divorces, family estrangements -- are the ones that cut deep into the ego, because they spotlight failure of temper, character, and adaptability. Are you able to limp to your feet, spit the turf out of your mouth, and smile with your two front teeth missing? You'd better be. People rally around that guy.

BECOMING AN ORPHAN
The day both your mom and pop are officially planted is a defining one. No more training. No more advice. No more free meals on Thanksgiving Day. It's your turn to be the example at the head of the table. You don't have to wear a cardigan when you carve the turkey, but you do have to take up the knife. Don't cut yourself.

REALIZING YOU DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING
The younger you are when you experience this moment of clarity, the better. It means you'll be humbler in the face of knowledge -- that's a good thing. It also means you'll have more years to quest, to learn, to figure out everything from options trading to tying a tighter fly. You ain't stupid, sir. But you ain't God, either.

I've been through 3 of these.. receiving defeat and becoming a father are by far at the top of my list. I advanced 5 years the day my son was born and receiving defeat.. technically I'm going through that now and its not fun by any means but I know it is for the best.

~The_Duke~
06-09-2006, 09:01 PM
I got the top 3 and the bottom one...

First I became a father, then I choose to marry, then my wife cheated on me and didnt want to try to fix it so we got a divorce, and before all that happen I figured out I dont know everything but that was at a like 16 though...

tony
06-09-2006, 09:03 PM
How hard was it going through a divorce? I cant say I ever thought I knew it all..

~The_Duke~
06-09-2006, 09:10 PM
Well I would have to say the worst part about the whole thing IMO is the period of right before the divorce and moving and seperating all you stuff like wedding pictures and special items like wedding rings and what not. The reason for the period right before the divorce was she dropped the I slept with person A (was one of my friends) bomb on me and then expected me to brush it off like it was nothing.

The actual divorce part sucked ass trying to get my X, who wouldnt be discribed as a rational person when upset, to agree on child custody stuff.

Since I was the one divorcing her it wasnt to bad emotional for me. I was pissed as hell at her and didnt want to have anything to do with her so that made it a hell of alot easier.

EDIT: keep in mind I am only 20...

TwinyTwin
06-09-2006, 10:48 PM
Good post + 1