View Full Version : Power Mods NEW CROWER 3 PIECE CAMS!!!! GANGSTA!!
BABY J
06-05-2006, 10:34 AM
My small business (Serious Customs) wholesale license and my part time gig of slanging parts has afforded me awesome opportunities. My latest opportunity is the 1st to test the new THREE PIECE Crower 401s. There is not another person on the planet who can claim such. Man, this cam was SO hott, that it threw my timing belt and made the car undriveable. So I am gonna back off a bit in my next attempt to load my sick B16 w/ some street cams. LOL.
:D
Seriously, here is what happens when your B16 is as GANGSTA as mine. VTEC hits so hard that you snap Crower 401s in 2 different places. YIKES!!! I mean I simply can NOT find a company that can provide me w/ cams good enuff to withstand the VTEK POWAH of the "beast". So, sadly, I had to remove this bumptick and its twin brother. :) In their place currently is JDM B16A cams, but I did order some new cams (shhhh, it's a secret) last night. :)
BABY J
06-05-2006, 10:35 AM
and ...
IntegraXTR
06-05-2006, 10:37 AM
holy shit!!!
BABY J
06-05-2006, 10:39 AM
^^ Yes, you are correct... that shit is DEFINITELY holy.
Vteckidd
06-05-2006, 10:44 AM
thats crower for you
BABY J
06-05-2006, 10:46 AM
LOL. They make some decent shit (street), be easy Mike. :) LOL. But in your defense, Crower 401s will NOT be going back into my **cough** "high horsepower" B16. :)
Vteckidd
06-05-2006, 10:55 AM
every set of B series crower cams i see break. They have been doing it for YEARS. They had some bad casting techniques that plagued them.
contact them, im sure theyll replace it.
or
it could have been installer error if the cam caps were over TQed
That shit is still tripping me out. Make sure you get the torque spec on that header before snugging it up. Shout fool. I'll be back in GA Wednsday at the latest.
BABY J
06-05-2006, 11:09 AM
At least we know now why it was moving like that. LOL. I knew something was up b/c VTEC was engaging, but it was DEF not as "gangsta" as it used to be. :) Crower cams FTL!! :)
And Mike (99Si) I ordered the header gasket... when it comes in I will have MS put it on the EF. Gotta pick up the header from the polishing shop... and I want a scrape plate installed. Dropped $830 to Hytech a MONTH ago (header for my EG), they insured me that they had my header IN STOCK, I called last Friday and it has not shipped. I'm not asking for a refund, but I DO expect them to send some of the $$ back... we'll see of I can get 'em to play fair.
KevinT707
06-05-2006, 11:26 AM
hey Baby J, how are my old B16 cams working for ya? Yea I know they might not be as "gangsta" as your 3-piece custom cams ..
BABY J
06-05-2006, 11:28 AM
They are doing the thing. LOL. AMAZING how a coupla JDM B16 cams can outperform a Crower 3 piece. Who woulda thunk??? LOL
IntegraXTR
06-05-2006, 11:37 AM
dude wtf were you doing to break them, I mean they could have been torued out of specs but damn dude. +1 for breaking some cams
BABY J
06-05-2006, 11:40 AM
I can't tell you the secret Jedi Secrets of gangsta VTEC powah. But I will tell what NOT to do.... when you are dialing in your build... overlaying your cam hot spot, VTEC crossover and NOS engagement at the exact same location in the power band is prolly not the best idea. LOL. Stagger it for laying down the power progressively. Or just call Mike at MSPI. Then drink beer.
IntegraXTR
06-05-2006, 11:51 AM
vtec killer cams ftw!!!
BABY J
06-05-2006, 12:19 PM
... They had some bad casting techniques that plagued them. contact them, im sure theyll replace it...
Just talked to Dustin Spencer at Crower. They are tossing me not 1, but 2 new cams of my choice (out of their 40x series). I even get free shipping. These are new and "virtually" unbreakable under normal operation (www.crower.com (http://www.crower.com)). Wondering if I should sell them as soon as I get 'em or cancel my order from last night. Decisions decisions. :)
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What can you do for me? These were installed by a professional shot (PFI Speed --> www.pfispeed.com (http://www.pfispeed.com/)) and torqued to spec. I went w/ complete valve train as well.
J’son Johnson
678-516-2755
LS2ner
06-05-2006, 01:15 PM
keep em and lets build a mini cooper with a b series in it.
KevinT707
06-06-2006, 05:16 PM
yo Baby J, we gotta talk. Since your getting 2 sets of cams, how about hookin' a brotha up ?
BABY J
06-06-2006, 05:33 PM
You got my phone number man. :) When my EF was down you came through with some JDM B16 cams for cheap even though you know how much I make an hour. Even though I have other rides to drive, that's class man to not try to make a killing. You got 1st dibs on the Crowers when they come in. I got a fresh b16 2day too from Colorado that's gonna be for sale in a week. Head needs a valve guide & it will b ready 2 go. If NE1 has 1 LMK. Otherwise I will post the engine/head for sale next week. TTYL,
Baby J
678-516-2755
speedminded
06-06-2006, 05:50 PM
gimme some stage II's, hrmm...say Toda...and someone can have my ITR's :)
vtecgsrguy
06-06-2006, 10:56 PM
did i just "read" suthing bout cams???.....huh???? i wonder if someone close to me is gittin some......i wonder????......man i wonder???.....lol........uh i think someone needs to call me?????......like now!
BABY J
06-07-2006, 05:52 AM
^^ LOL. Sorry Bro. LOL. I still have my wholesale license though from my now defunct company "Serious Customs" (which is why the links to all of my cars start w/ www.seriouscustoms.com/ (http://www.seriouscustoms.com/). It was just too much for me to manage while I was still in the Air Force and got way too big too fast. I considered getting it off the ground again but the parts-whore market is all but mutted out these days w/ every Joe Blow w/ a RESELLER license thinking it's as good as a WD or Wholesale account. I mostly use it to source products for MY projects, but I can square you away if u need somethin'... I still got all my connects. Get at me.
KevinT707
06-07-2006, 02:37 PM
You got 1st dibs on the Crowers when they come in.
Sounds good! I feel special :goodjob:
Ludester
06-07-2006, 03:35 PM
how long ago did you buy them? it seems you got one from the bad batch..
That fuck'd up man..
BABY J
06-07-2006, 03:47 PM
I googled Crower cam broke and got a LOT of activity... seems I am not the only one.
Ludester
06-07-2006, 03:50 PM
no your not....
SLow_POke
06-11-2006, 03:11 AM
I googled Crower cam broke and got a LOT of activity... seems I am not the only one.
WHOA!! lol love those custom cams ..
but for real i seen it happen to skunk2 but not crower . i also search and sure enoug ALOT OF HITS!!!!! .glad ur getting it taken care of
BABY J
06-11-2006, 09:24 AM
Yeah, I have seen it personally happen to S2 cams, but not lately. It was back in the mid/late 90s.
SLow_POke
06-11-2006, 10:55 AM
. It was back in the mid/late 90s.
yup
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