AR-15 or AK-47?

[gijoe0720]

I am about to buy me a new gun. I want somethin that I can just go out and shoot and have fun with. The place I get my guns from has a nice AK-47 and 2 nice AR-15's. The AK-47 is around 400 and the AR-15's are 700 and the other around 850. The cheaper AR-15 is just smaller than the other one but they are both the same gun just different sizes. What yall think I should get?

[Wurm]

get a M40A1

[Ruiner]

Why not both? ;)

http://i3.tinypic.com/xqkohu.jpghttp://i3.tinypic.com/xqkoqt.jpg

[gijoe0720]

Why not both? ;)

http://i3.tinypic.com/xqkohu.jpg


I will prolly end up havin both soon but I don't know which I want to get first

[Ruiner]

I will prolly end up havin both soon but I don't know which I want to get first

If you get an AK-47, make sure that you get a milled receiver. If the receiver is stamped, then pass on it and get the AR. If you get an AR, make sure that you get the "shorty" M4 style with a 14.5-16" barrel.

[gijoe0720]

get a M40A1


I want a smaller gun. Somethin that I can just go out and shoot alot and have fun with. Right now I don't want to get a rifle. I will end up gettin my dads guns soon probably. 30-06, 35, .50 cal muzzleloader and a browning sweet 16 16 gauge.

Right now I only have a .243 and a Mosin Nagant M44. I can't go out and shoot the Mosin Nagant to much cause I am a small guy and that gun kicks like hell and my shoulder gets sore after a while

[Wurm]

you know you want the sniper rifle so you can hide in a trunk and snipe people through the key hole

[gijoe0720]

you know you want the sniper rifle so you can hide in a trunk and snipe people through the key hole


I would love to have one but right now I just want a small gun

[Z33_kid]

ak but idk both lol why not lol

[gijoe0720]

If I had the money I would buy both at the same time but I don't.

[LemonAJAX]

lol AR-15 FTW!! i thought you had to be 21 to buy one though?... oh well i want a druganov.. only problem is you have to buy em in pieces and put it together.. and lookin at the prices it's gonna be expenzive.. so what are the age limits with buying guns?

[~The_Duke~]

You should try to find a Steyr Aug. The germans used to use it for the army standard issue. I am not sure how much they are but I believe they fire the same round as an AK-47.

[R3RUN]

ak's are pretty bad ass but everyone has them. go for the ar-15.

[LemonAJAX]

ak's are pretty bad ass but everyone has them. go for the ar-15.

thats what i'm sayin.. if the towel heads have em.. everyone else does too..

[Master Shake]

the ak has a good fire power with range and not to mention if you're a good shot, some hellacious accuracy.
but thats me...so take into consideration, fire rate, range, accuracy, and rounds per clip.




or spend some money and get a M4 Carbine w/ silencer.

[LemonAJAX]

lol AR-15 FTW!! i thought you had to be 21 to buy one though?... oh well i want a druganov.. only problem is you have to buy em in pieces and put it together.. and lookin at the prices it's gonna be expenzive.. so what are the age limits with buying guns?


anyone?

[gijoe0720]

ak's are pretty bad ass but everyone has them. go for the ar-15.


yea that is what I was thinkin but I do love ak's.


Duke- I am pretty sure that AK's shoot 7.62x39

Chink- I consider myself a pretty good shot. Hell I sighted my .243 in pretty good and on my first shot I shot some thread from 50 yards away.

[Ruiner]

A. Listen to my advice. I have owned these guns for many many many years.
B. You do not have to buy AKs in pieces.

[gijoe0720]

21 for pistols and 18 for rifles. Not sure if you can get any rifle at 18

[Ruiner]

yea that is what I was thinkin but I do love ak's.


Duke- I am pretty sure that AK's shoot 5.64x39

Chink- I consider myself a pretty good shot. Hell I sighted my .243 in pretty good and on my first shot I shot some thread from 50 yards away.

AK-47 shoots 7.62x39mm. :)

[Ruiner]

Those guns in the pictures are mine. I can answer ANY question that you have about either.

[gijoe0720]

AK-47 shoots 7.62x39mm. :)


man I knew that for some reason I had a major brain fart cause my mosin nagant shoots 7.62x54mm and i knew it was like the next smallest. I think I just hit some numbers or somethin.

[~The_Duke~]

How much did you pay for the mosin?

The weopen I was speaking of is that bull pup rifle that was used by the long haired dutch dude in one of the Die Hard movies(the one in the tower).

[gijoe0720]

How much did you pay for the mosin?

The weopen I was speaking of is that bull pup rifle that was used by the long haired dutch dude in one of the Die Hard movies(the one in the tower).


I only paid 80. They are pretty cheap cause they are surplus guns and there are so many of them. It was made in 1944 and all the serial numbers on it match except for the buttplate piece. It shoots really good too, you couldn't tell it was that old by shootin it or lookin at it. I got it and cleaned it up really good and take good care of it now. Every time I go out and shoot I always take it apart and clean it afterwards.

[LemonAJAX]

A. Listen to my advice. I have owned these guns for many many many years.
B. You do not have to buy AKs in pieces.

not talkin bout the AK talkin about the DRUGANOV ak version of the sniper rifle.. and i thought 18 for low-powered rifles (not sure the range), and 21 for pistols and high-powered rifles.. just me..

[gijoe0720]

not talkin bout the AK talkin about the DRUGANOV ak version of the sniper rifle.. and i thought 18 for low-powered rifles (not sure the range), and 21 for pistols and high-powered rifles.. just me..


either way I will get it. If you have to be 21 I will get my mom to buy it.

[~The_Duke~]

I only paid 80. They are pretty cheap cause they are surplus guns and there are so many of them. It was made in 1944 and all the serial numbers on it match except for the buttplate piece. It shoots really good too, you couldn't tell it was that old by shootin it or lookin at it. I got it and cleaned it up really good and take good care of it now. Every time I go out and shoot I always take it apart and clean it afterwards.

I would love to get a mosin and a KAR mauser sometime.

[gijoe0720]

I would love to get a mosin and a KAR mauser sometime.


Are you wantin the mosin nagant m44 or the m1891?

I want the British Enfields or the German Mauser K98 so bad.

[Ruiner]

not talkin bout the AK talkin about the DRUGANOV ak version of the sniper rifle.. and i thought 18 for low-powered rifles (not sure the range), and 21 for pistols and high-powered rifles.. just me..

No difference. They don't rate them on "power" levels like that.

[4bangin]

i have 3 of each gun. I use a ar15 mostly for plinking and if I'm going to be shooting ALOT in the same day. AK if I'm in the mood to just blow shit up. AK seems like such a rowdy gun while the AR seems more precise. They can both be awesome guns. IMO it's a person preferance like a car or something.

[AE86 Dorifto]

Get an AW50!!!!! http://tacproshootingcenter.com/AW.html#aw50 How could you refuse it for only $13,000.00?

[JoeCoolinATL]

not talkin bout the AK talkin about the DRUGANOV ak version of the sniper rifle.. and i thought 18 for low-powered rifles (not sure the range), and 21 for pistols and high-powered rifles.. just me..


www.packing.org

for correct info

[RandomGuy]

fuck 'em both...

Get a VEPR 308 man... trust me it'll be SUPER DUPER fun to shoot... ;)

not too expensive and relatively easy to find as well.

there are soo many variations, i'm sure one will please you

[RandomGuy]

anyone point you to gunbroker?
I've heard mixed reviews, but just be alert and I'm sure you'd like it

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=48539476

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=48513483

[Flip]

anyone point you to gunbroker?
I've heard mixed reviews, but just be alert and I'm sure you'd like it

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=48539476

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=48513483

I've heard a lot of good things about them. You just pick what you want and they ship it to a gun dealer near you so you can get the background check and everything... I've seen some pretty good deals on there. I'll most likely be getting my next gun through them.

[Ran]

Get an AW50!!!!! http://tacproshootingcenter.com/AW.html#aw50 How could you refuse it for only $13,000.00?That's like a .50 Caliber anti-tank weapon! :lmao:

[Jaimecbr900]

7.62 is much cheaper to shoot than .223 is. If that's an issue to think about, the AK is not a bad choice. If not, I'd go for the AR myself. :goodjob:

BTW, Ruiner don't know squat about guns nor grammar...... ;) :D JP.

[Calvin200sx]

Try and get a HK G3.

[aaronfelipe]

I like the one on the left.

[efman]

thats what i'm sayin.. if the towel heads have em.. everyone else does too..

thats a stupid philosophy, just cause the work the best and are the most inexspensive dont get one is that what your saying ?
i dont like ar's but thats just me, the main reason is i dont like supporting a design that are troops hate. also i like a gun a can treat like crap and no it will work, a ak will go bang everytime you pull the trigger it may not be as accurate after 300 meters but 10 bucks says you cant hit much at 300 meters with open sights. so the question is do you want somthin thats cheaper and works better and is a bigger caliber or do you want somthin thats more "humain", neets more cleaning and is more exspensive ? its a no brainer for me if i was going to spend alot of money on a "assult rifle" i would buy the springfield m1a1 socom. well good luck with yoiur buy and be safe

[4bangin]

BTW one of my AKs is a POS stamped norinco that I only bought because I got it for $150. I've put over 10,000 rounds through it (I shoot alot) and never once cleaned it. Not even before I shot it. I don't recall a single time ever having a problem with it firing. I honestly treat the gun like crap, but it works every time.

[eViLMunkey]

http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/systems/dvic539.jpg
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/images/m107-pic2.jpg

[Wurm]

thats tight I want one

[~The_Duke~]

BTW one of my AKs is a POS stamped norinco that I only bought because I got it for $150. I've put over 10,000 rounds through it (I shoot alot) and never once cleaned it. Not even before I shot it. I don't recall a single time ever having a problem with it firing. I honestly treat the gun like crap, but it works every time.

The AK-47 is known all around the world as being the most robust and reliable gun...that is why everybody and their brother carries one in other contrys. If there is a bullet in the chamber and you pull the trigger it will shoot...

[~The_Duke~]

This thread keeps jumping to the top for some reason...

[Rican219]

I know LOL

[Hulud]

please hang yourself gijoe

[ahmonrah]

lol AR-15 FTW!! i thought you had to be 21 to buy one though?... oh well i want a druganov.. only problem is you have to buy em in pieces and put it together.. and lookin at the prices it's gonna be expenzive.. so what are the age limits with buying guns?18 to buy rifles/shotguns, 21 for handguns.

[gijoe0720]

please hang yourself gijoe


ok will do

[don5504]

i say d) other.......... i don't know too much about guns but i've always liked the 9mm heckler & koch mp5 with a collapsible stock.

D

[efman]

thats a whole differant type of gun and a real one would be 5 times as exspensive

[Ruiner]

i say d) other.......... i don't know too much about guns but i've always liked the 9mm heckler & koch mp5 with a collapsible stock.

D

Yes, if you are suggesting that he buy an MP5, your knowledge of guns is rather limited. You are looking at a $10,000-17,000 gun depending on trigger-config and options (for full auto, at least). The semi-autos, if you can find them, are a bit cheaper, but still typically over $5k if I remember the pricing correctly.

[don5504]

Yes, if you are suggesting that he buy an MP5, your knowledge of guns is rather limited. You are looking at a $10,000-17,000 gun depending on trigger-config and options (for full auto, at least). The semi-autos, if you can find them, are a bit cheaper, but still typically over $5k if I remember the pricing correctly.

I'm pretty sure that i already said that i know little about guns. but i just suggested it because i like them. and i don't remember the original poster putting a price cap on it. just like with cars with enough money anything is possible

D

[MongolPup]

I do know that the silenced MP5 is considered one of the top Delta Force-Counter Terror ops gun; if I remember correctly the sliding of the bolt is louder then the report of the gun.

If I don't remember correctly, Ruiner please correct me. lol.

[efman]

well if i remeber right part of what makes the mp5 so good and quit is that the bolt sits on abunch of little ballberings, is that right ruiner i'm more of a ak and berreta guy

[4bangin]

Some of the replica MP5s are nice as well. I've shot many many real HKs and own a replica. Can't really tell the differance. Granted mine is just semi auto it was only $1500. It's alot of fun to shoot.

[eViLMunkey]

I'm still for the .50 cal rifle option... good choice super sonic rounds... reachout and touch an iraqie... :goodjob:

[Ruiner]

I do know that the silenced MP5 is considered one of the top Delta Force-Counter Terror ops gun; if I remember correctly the sliding of the bolt is louder then the report of the gun.

If I don't remember correctly, Ruiner please correct me. lol.

On the MP5SD (integrated silencer), the bolt action is, in face, louder than the report. You are correct. I have shot one once and ear plugs were laughed at. :)

MP5SD
http://www.hkdefense.us/pages/military-le/mil-leimages/mp5sdmain.jpg

[Ruiner]

well if i remeber right part of what makes the mp5 so good and quit is that the bolt sits on abunch of little ballberings, is that right ruiner i'm more of a ak and berreta guy

I'm not sure if it sits on ball bearings, but I do know that the "closed bolt" system is what really gives it the edge/difference over other weapons of its class.

[RandomGuy]

how come no ones all about those calicos anymore LOL

that was the ghetto thug's gun of choice back in the day

[Crazy Asian]

hey gi where do you go to buy your guns cuz Im in the market too.

Better yet Ruiner where did you buy your ak and ar?

[SL65AMG]

well i see you posted this in MAy but it seems to be active

you cannot get an "AK47" for $400. its a MAC90

get the AR-15


Ammunition is MUCH cheaper because there is a lot of it around

7.62x39 ammo is drying up and it getting really expensive


also.... better learn to reload.... itll save you a lot of money.... but i guess that depends on how much you shoot

[PSINXS]

ar-15 all the way.

[ahmonrah]

either one if your a good shot.

[jR1_kS14]

all i know is that i like the m4a1 more cuz i use it better in counter-strike..LOL

[chnco]

Go shoot yourself faggot and stop acting like the gun is an extension of your dick.

FAGGOT!!

[RedGTS]

^lol at all of allens hostile posts at 4 in the am


and for the thread starter make sure you dont buy some ugoslavia piece of shit ak47

[lilmanx01]

ak's are pretty bad ass but everyone has them. go for the ar-15.


thats what i was thinking...unless you get an auto AK :yes:

[Ruiner]

hey gi where do you go to buy your guns cuz Im in the market too.

Better yet Ruiner where did you buy your ak and ar?

I bought both at an Eastman Gun Show.