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blurred visions
04-26-2006, 11:07 PM
Has anyone seen the Nissan Pulsar GTI-R engine fit into a Civic? I've seen it fit into a 200sx and by guessing I would say that yes it can fit, but I need proof before I purchase an engine.

2.0civic
04-26-2006, 11:11 PM
why the fuck would you do that?? one of my old aquaintances(sp) has one in his 200 ser and its fast as fuck but why??

ECMgarrett
04-26-2006, 11:13 PM
please learn what motor is in it - sr20.
you living in the fast and the furious "these dudes are building three civics with sr20s....." hahaha

2.0civic
04-26-2006, 11:46 PM
please learn what motor is in it - sr20.
you living in the fast and the furious "these dudes are building three civics with sr20s....." hahaha

lololol. exactly what i was thinking earlier but i didnt want to be mean. for the money it would take to do that swap you could have a nice gsr swap with many extras

blurred visions
04-26-2006, 11:53 PM
I know what motor is in it, don't tell me what I need to learn. Does your friend go by the name of Matt? I've been in his before, fast as hell. I'm sure the custom fabrication wouldn't be too hard or expensive and that engine I believe puts out maybe 230 hp? Knock the socks off a GSR swap..

Engine itself is only about 2 grand..

2.0civic
04-27-2006, 12:01 AM
yeah. matt. only his has close to 400 hp and hes got ALOT more than 2k into it....good luck though.

2.0civic
04-27-2006, 12:02 AM
and what tranny do you propose to use to hold the power?? are you going ot build it?? why not just buy a 200sx and swap that??

blurred visions
04-27-2006, 12:02 AM
Yea, I remember when he had his old engine in it and even then he had tons of money invested. I can't seem to get in contact with him, he's not on myspace or on here. Hmm?

2.0civic
04-27-2006, 06:49 AM
hes on here, just very rarely. he still goes to the medlock meets. i can get his number if you need it. he blew that fucker up ike 3 times before the sr swap.

HiPSI
04-27-2006, 08:22 AM
for the custom fab work to get it all in the car and working you could just do a boosted B-series and make a lot more power with less hassle.

engine swaps like that just don't work well unless you plan on making your own everything and it's solely a race car. you'd likely need to run a full set of aftermarket gauges due to the nissan ECU/sensors not working with the honda stuff, of course the custom work to get the engine even in the car (plenty of relocation and cutting/welding/fabrication), i'm sure custom axles, custom exhaust, a whole lot of time with wiring diagrams trying to make various functions work, etc. when you're done you have a stock ass motor in the car with no extras.

of course it'll go in the 200sx, it's the same engine platform as the pulsar so it's a bolt-in affair on that car.

1439/2000
04-27-2006, 08:26 AM
hes on here, just very rarely. he still goes to the medlock meets. i can get his number if you need it. he blew that fucker up ike 3 times before the sr swap.

That 200sx was slow. He was claiming 300 something when I busted his ass on the highway in my 240 when it had the t25.


i rarely belive any power numbers it puts out even its on that posterboard he brings around to shows. lol


And yeah don't put that shit in your Honda. It will never run again.

4dmin
04-27-2006, 09:21 AM
ya if you drive a honda and your not running a bseries or kseries your just stupid :goodjob: the amount of power that can be made on those motors is amazing

blurred visions
04-27-2006, 02:08 PM
That 200sx was slow. He was claiming 300 something when I busted his ass on the highway in my 240 when it had the t25.


i rarely belive any power numbers it puts out even its on that posterboard he brings around to shows. lol


And yeah don't put that shit in your Honda. It will never run again.


The t25 was nothing in that car. After that I believe he put a t4 in it and damn did that knock your socks off. I remember it being quick as hell off the line, but now with the new sr20 in it he can pull away from just about anything on the highway. I wouldn't mind doing the swap into a 200sx, but the car itself feels cheap.

1439/2000
04-27-2006, 02:15 PM
The t25 was nothing in that car. After that I believe he put a t4 in it and damn did that knock your socks off. I remember it being quick as hell off the line, but now with the new sr20 in it he can pull away from just about anything on the highway. I wouldn't mind doing the swap into a 200sx, but the car itself feels cheap.


Hey buddy. Stock they came with gti-r t28's. I raced him with the jgy customs turbo. Slow.


And admin, dont be that guy. I'm not saying be like everybody else. Do whatever. Buy a sentra and swap it. But how much do you or this guy know about the motor chassis and fabrication neccessary to make it work?

I had an avanier motor in my g20, a type x in my 240, been around the motors for years. They are a different beast than a normal sr swap even in a b/p chassis.

Hondatwin23
04-27-2006, 03:41 PM
ya if you drive a honda and your not running a bseries or kseries your just stupid :goodjob: the amount of power that can be made on those motors is amazing

*wipes away tears of pride!*

MongolPup
04-27-2006, 05:25 PM
lol he hasn't been to medlock in weekkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkks. and hes rarely on here. but cool guy none the less.

blurred visions
04-27-2006, 07:58 PM
Whats his name on here?

sebastianHoff
04-27-2006, 09:37 PM
*wipes away tears of pride!*

*wipes away the tears of laughter*

the t-28 on the gtir is good for about 300whp on a standard s13 redtop, it is a great dirty mother of a turbo and i've been trying to find one for 6 months.

Dirty Octopus™
04-28-2006, 08:20 AM
NO!
Honda - Good
GTi thing - Bad

ECMgarrett
04-28-2006, 08:43 AM
NO!
Honda - Good
GTi thing - Bad

i wouldnt refer to a pulsar as being "bad" they are very very potent cars, you sound like a honda ricer by saying stuff like that, research more about other cars

Sport1.3
04-28-2006, 09:20 AM
top gear drove the fastest accelerating car in europe...was a Pulsar GTi-R with around 450-500awhp. it was amazing. complete street missle!!!

2.0civic
04-28-2006, 09:31 AM
That 200sx was slow. He was claiming 300 something when I busted his ass on the highway in my 240 when it had the t25.


i rarely belive any power numbers it puts out even its on that posterboard he brings around to shows. lol


And yeah don't put that shit in your Honda. It will never run again.

i dont know when you raced him last but he actually has ALOT of shit done to it. its a quick ass car though, just maybe not the best driver....lol...i think his name on here is hotnissanboy or something. thats his sn on most forums.

1439/2000
04-28-2006, 02:04 PM
i dont know when you raced him last but he actually has ALOT of shit done to it. its a quick ass car though, just maybe not the best driver....lol...i think his name on here is hotnissanboy or something. thats his sn on most forums.

I raced him in my 240 with a t25 on the highway with his jgy turbo. 3 cars I pulled.

Sebastion hoff: I know the pulsar turbo is nice for stock but it wasn't shit on that car.

He would remember my old car.

HalfBaked
04-28-2006, 02:32 PM
sr20s are stupid motors.

They don't make much power at all.

And anyone who would swap an sr20det into a sentra is just wasting their money...

Sport1.3
04-28-2006, 03:01 PM
:stupid:

1439/2000
04-28-2006, 05:14 PM
sr20s are stupid motors.

They don't make much power at all.

And anyone who would swap an sr20det into a sentra is just wasting their money...

Speaking of wasting money on sentras. Is yours going to be running for the showdown?

HalfBaked
04-28-2006, 06:15 PM
Speaking of wasting money on sentras. Is yours going to be running for the showdown?

If I have the motor pulled and the block and head seperated this weekend, maybe...

sebastianHoff
04-28-2006, 08:15 PM
i just realized the people givin this guy shit think he should stay with a honda motor.

does that strike anyone else as odd?

blurred visions
04-29-2006, 02:34 AM
^? well I've already realized its not worth the hassle, oh well. I think I'd rather drive a prelude or an integra than drive a 200sx with a swapped sr20det in it. Although the power is less, the quality is much better..

2.0civic
04-29-2006, 11:08 PM
^^^key point of this entire thread is for the money you would drop into a swap such as that, you can have a proven swap with reliability and cost alot less

HalfBaked
04-30-2006, 12:16 AM
You know he can make 300whp on a stock gti-r motor tho right?

2.0civic
04-30-2006, 12:31 AM
and for the same price you can build a 300 hp b series too

HalfBaked
04-30-2006, 12:34 AM
Yea, build.

That is the key word.

gti-r you'd just need a boost controller and a tune and maybe upgrade some fuel and maf.

2.0civic
04-30-2006, 12:44 AM
and the point is?? lol, when you break something, youll have to build custom axles and shit. its not like its a bolt in affair

sebastianHoff
04-30-2006, 12:54 AM
*edit cause half baked beat me to it*

all the stock gtir stuff is good for 300whp, even the gay nissan mafs. the sr stuff doesnt break at 300whp, the sr stuff doesnt break at 500whp. i dont know about the fwd trans (cause fwd is the suck) but i've seen stock sr blocks take 550whp and 22 psi.

HalfBaked
04-30-2006, 12:56 AM
Why do you have to buy custom axles if you break things?

Why not just replace what you broke...

While ya, you'd need custom axles for the swap, chances are if you are getting custom axles you won't get cheap ass axles.

I mean hell people put ls1s in cars that have import motors...

I'd like to see a civic with a gtir motor.

Actually, I'd just like to see this guy buy a gtir try to do the swap then realize he can't and sell me the motor cheap.

2.0civic
04-30-2006, 12:57 AM
and show me a complete gti-r swap with the fuel system shit and extras you need and the tuning cheaper than a 300 hp b series and you got a deal

sebastianHoff
04-30-2006, 12:59 AM
i wanna see a 300hp b series motor period.

(you see my edit yes?)

sebastianHoff
04-30-2006, 01:00 AM
Why do you have to buy custom axles if you break things?

Why not just replace what you broke...

While ya, you'd need custom axles for the swap, chances are if you are getting custom axles you won't get cheap ass axles.

I mean hell people put ls1s in cars that have import motors...

I'd like to see a civic with a gtir motor.

Actually, I'd just like to see this guy buy a gtir try to do the swap then realize he can't and sell me the motor cheap.

i got dibs on the turbo and injectors :goodjob:

2.0civic
04-30-2006, 01:03 AM
i wanna see a 300hp b series motor period.

(you see my edit yes?)


holy hell. you havent seen a 300 hp b series?? have you not seen some of the ISP cars or any from mainstream?? i know isp has built some powerplants and im sure mainstream has too.



for the custom fab work to get it all in the car and working you could just do a boosted B-series and make a lot more power with less hassle.

engine swaps like that just don't work well unless you plan on making your own everything and it's solely a race car. you'd likely need to run a full set of aftermarket gauges due to the nissan ECU/sensors not working with the honda stuff, of course the custom work to get the engine even in the car (plenty of relocation and cutting/welding/fabrication), i'm sure custom axles, custom exhaust, a whole lot of time with wiring diagrams trying to make various functions work, etc. when you're done you have a stock ass motor in the car with no extras.

of course it'll go in the 200sx, it's the same engine platform as the pulsar so it's a bolt-in affair on that car.


theres alot more work as hipsi pointed out other than hooking up the shit and tuning it. while we're at it, lets drop a viper motor in a 240

ŁG2♣
04-30-2006, 01:09 AM
why do a gti-r in a honda? why not just spend that money on a b18c1 (GSR) and just build that crap and go boost? it'll still be fast as any of these imports/domestic (spelling) on the streets right now.......unless you just wanna be stupid,

2.0civic
04-30-2006, 01:10 AM
why do a gti-r in a honda? why not just spend that money on a b18c1 (GSR) and just build that crap and go boost? it'll still be fast as any of these imports/domestic (spelling) on the streets right now.......unless you just wanna be stupid,

exactly

HalfBaked
04-30-2006, 01:18 AM
and show me a complete gti-r swap with the fuel system shit and extras you need and the tuning cheaper than a 300 hp b series and you got a deal

I made 300whp on my avenir motor...similar to gti-r but with smaller turbo, smaller injectors stock, and I don't have ITBs.

sr20det- 1700
660cc injectors- 300
e-manage- 400
z32 maf- 120
nismo fpr-110
fmic and pipng- 75
greddy profec b-300ish
tune- 300
clutch- 300

There, $3600 and I was making 300whp and that was on my t25. You can make that on a t28 that the gti-r comes with as well.

According to jarco's website, their b16s and b18s can cost as much as $3600...

Hmmmm.

2.0civic
04-30-2006, 01:20 AM
I made 300whp on my avenir motor...similar to gti-r but with smaller turbo, smaller injectors stock, and I don't have ITBs.

sr20det- 1700
660cc injectors- 300
e-manage- 400
z32 maf- 120
nismo fpr-110
fmic and pipng- 75
greddy profec b-300ish
tune- 300
clutch- 300

There, $3600 and I was making 300whp and that was on my t25. You can make that on a t28 that the gti-r comes with as well.

According to jarco's website, their b16s and b18s can cost as much as $3600...

Hmmmm.


hmmm....hmotorsonline has way better pricing IMO and how much is the custom shit you have to fab up to get it in the civic and the wiring shit?? you are also not taking into considerationlabor which is defintely going to be needed here plus more tuning than 300

HalfBaked
04-30-2006, 01:24 AM
SR swaps are easy.

You said show you a gti-r that would cost less than a b16 to get to 300whp.

I showed you a motor that has less power then the gti-r stock and how cheap it was for 300whp.

If you aren't mechanically inclined that isn't my fault. Things cost you more money then.

Also, you can question my prices, that is the amount that I paid when I did everything for my swap and my car. I got it tuned at batlground, Dan can tune he knows, how I don't know where you get your work done but it shouldn't take hours upon hours to tune an e-manage when it has a base map for your car...

2.0civic
04-30-2006, 01:27 AM
lol, this isnt even my car man, but youre right. i was just saying. yes, if you want a sr, it is cheap to get 300 hp. the not cheap part is getting it into the civic, which at that point, you will spend alot more with the "unique" swap than you would a more common one. but yes, since you are right almight nissan god, and you can fabricate and get all the shit cheaper, you just owned me.

HalfBaked
04-30-2006, 01:31 AM
and show me a complete gti-r swap with the fuel system shit and extras you need and the tuning cheaper than a 300 hp b series and you got a deal


I made 300whp on my avenir motor...similar to gti-r but with smaller turbo, smaller injectors stock, and I don't have ITBs.

sr20det- 1700
660cc injectors- 300
e-manage- 400
z32 maf- 120
nismo fpr-110
fmic and pipng- 75
greddy profec b-300ish
tune- 300
clutch- 300

There, $3600 and I was making 300whp and that was on my t25. You can make that on a t28 that the gti-r comes with as well.

According to jarco's website, their b16s and b18s can cost as much as $3600...

Hmmmm.


you just owned me.

Yup. I did.

ECMgarrett
05-01-2006, 10:41 AM
thread and thread starter is a homosexual

speedminded
05-01-2006, 11:23 AM
What's wrong with putting a GTI-R engine in a Honda, who gives a fuck...don't see too many people bitching about the TDF TISMO conversion? Screw the pulsar, a complete Sunny GTI-R front clip is cheap...under $2k the last time i checked. Minus the 237whp monster vteckidd is selling you're not gonna get a decent b-series swap for that price. Of course you have alot of fabrication to do...

When i first discovered/learned about the Sunny GTI-R i wanted one, 227hp stock...then with all the DOT, EPA, & registration bullshit I said screw it...i wanna see the complete powertrain and drivetrain in a EG hatch, AWD and all...the hardest part would be finding the driveshaft and rear end but to see a civic hatch doing flat spins in a parking lot would be priceless :D

1439/2000
05-01-2006, 08:40 PM
What's wrong with putting a GTI-R engine in a Honda, who gives a fuck...don't see too many people bitching about the TDF TISMO conversion? Screw the pulsar, a complete Sunny GTI-R front clip is cheap...under $2k the last time i checked. Minus the 237whp monster vteckidd is selling you're not gonna get a decent b-series swap for that price. Of course you have alot of fabrication to do...

When i first discovered/learned about the Sunny GTI-R i wanted one, 227hp stock...then with all the DOT, EPA, & registration bullshit I said screw it...i wanna see the complete powertrain and drivetrain in a EG hatch, AWD and all...the hardest part would be finding the driveshaft and rear end but to see a civic hatch doing flat spins in a parking lot would be priceless :D

Nissan genius over here. lol

You realize it's the exact same thing except pulsars.

And is still about 2k. jgycustoms.com

RandomGuy
05-02-2006, 02:32 AM
FWD setup v8 FTW

ECMgarrett
05-02-2006, 08:54 AM
What's wrong with putting a GTI-R engine in a Honda, who gives a fuck...don't see too many people bitching about the TDF TISMO conversion? :D

i dont know what tdf tismo is

speedminded
05-02-2006, 09:21 AM
i dont know what tdf tismo isturbo dave fabrications 2jz in an S13 coupe... http://forums.importatlanta.com/showthread.php?t=56340

speedminded
05-02-2006, 09:26 AM
Nissan genius over here. lol

You realize it's the exact same thing except pulsars.

And is still about 2k. jgycustoms.comSince when did the pulsar come with a transfer case? It's a whole lot easier to fit a driveshaft and rearend then find a transfer case that will bolt up to an SR20 don't you think? The entire next paragraph explained why i wanted a Sunny GTI-R ;)

ECMgarrett
05-02-2006, 09:29 AM
pulsar is same thing as sunny

speedminded
05-02-2006, 09:44 AM
pulsar is same thing as sunnyok, everyone else wins. The Nissan brochure from the dealer (italy) says Sunny GTI-R (with no mention of Pulsar) so i thought the Pulsar GTI-R was some version of the NX thing with the SR.

1439/2000
05-02-2006, 10:27 AM
FWD setup v8 FTW


Northstar v8 in a civic.


A pulsar gti-r = jdm with some variances of sunny being in japan

Sunny gti-r=australia europe caribbean etc.

Sport1.3
05-02-2006, 10:55 AM
ya Sunny and Pulsar are the same car, id say why not, go for it! im all about those crazy swaps

Sport1.3
05-02-2006, 11:02 AM
how bout a northstar in a MKI MR2 .....drool
http://www.v8mr2.com/images/day71/thumbnails/P7050828.jpg
http://www.v8mr2.com/images/day60/thumbnails/P6060657.jpg
http://www.v8mr2.com/images/day71/thumbnails/P7050833.jpg

ECMgarrett
05-02-2006, 11:09 AM
bills project is really cool,but that guy is a jerk, fuck bill strong, yea i said it!

HiPSI
05-02-2006, 11:19 AM
I made 300whp on my avenir motor...similar to gti-r but with smaller turbo, smaller injectors stock, and I don't have ITBs.

sr20det- 1700
660cc injectors- 300
e-manage- 400
z32 maf- 120
nismo fpr-110
fmic and pipng- 75
greddy profec b-300ish
tune- 300
clutch- 300

There, $3600 and I was making 300whp and that was on my t25. You can make that on a t28 that the gti-r comes with as well.

According to jarco's website, their b16s and b18s can cost as much as $3600...

Hmmmm.


ok so where's the extra $3k+ to have a shop do the fab work to even get that pile of parts into the civic? ;)

HalfBaked
05-02-2006, 11:23 AM
ok so where's the extra $3k+ to have a shop do the fab work to even get that pile of parts into the civic? ;)

He said to make 300hp out of a gti-r and it be cheaper then 300whp out of a b series...

HiPSI
05-02-2006, 11:28 AM
He said to make 300hp out of a gti-r and it be cheaper then 300whp out of a b series...

but not once put into said civic it wouldn't be.

Sport1.3
05-02-2006, 11:50 AM
bills project is really cool,but that guy is a jerk, fuck bill strong, yea i said it!

hmm...he's always been a great guy when ive talked to him/met him. maybe its cuz noone likes a STUCK UP MKII OWNER!!!........lol j/k http://forums.offtopic.com/images/smilies/highfive.gif