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SOHC MONSTER
04-24-2006, 08:56 AM
http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~jonathan/images/haduken.jpg haduken

LMFAO!!! Nice thread jack!! :lmfao: :lmfao:

B16a2 Civic
04-24-2006, 09:25 AM
so dude talked shit, then got the shit beat out of him?
now im not cold hearted and will say he deserved to be beat down into a seizure, but he did deserve to get beat down, if you huff and puff, and you get blown down, then thats your own fault.

now from what it sounds like, the bikers were black? If so, basically a silent rule(for blacks if you will) is if someone hits the ground, its open ground for anyone to get a lick in, if the guy on teh ground cut you in the lunch line in the 5th grade, get you a stomp in

hope homeboy is okay tho, and i agree with what Mark said earlier, dont start no shit, wont be no shit

PhAtBoYMr2
04-24-2006, 09:30 AM
so dude talked shit, then got the shit beat out of him?
now im not cold hearted and will say he deserved to be beat down into a seizure, but he did deserve to get beat down, if you huff and puff, and you get blown down, then thats your own fault.

now from what it sounds like, the bikers were black? If so, basically a silent rule(for blacks if you will) is if someone hits the ground, its open ground for anyone to get a lick in, if the guy on teh ground cut you in the lunch line in the 5th grade, get you a stomp in

hope homeboy is okay tho, and i agree with what Mark said earlier, dont start no shit, wont be no shit

true that.

I mean there are no rules in street fighting, or in fighting at all. Theres no referee thats going to blow a whistle because you kicked someone while he was on the ground. its no holds barred.

Now ive been in a couple fights where i had the dude on the ground and kicked him in the stomach or in the face, only becuase i know if i was on the ground he would probaly kick me in the face or stomach. If i fight you, im going to do whatever in my power to fuck you up and if were fighting theres nothing you can do to talk or negotiate the situation because we wouldnt of been fighting in the first place.

For those people that say "oh it wrong to kick someone while there down" i can tell have not been in many street fights or have probaly gotten whooped and kicked to the ground.

A.P. Photography
04-24-2006, 09:33 AM
Just remember B and Mark, if the bill the Ruiner mentioned earlier is signed into effect, it is legal for someone carrying a firearm to dissolve the situation by any means neccasary.

PhAtBoYMr2
04-24-2006, 09:36 AM
Just remember B and Mark, if the bill the Ruiner mentioned earlier is signed into effect, it is legal for someone carrying a firearm to dissolve the situation by any means neccasary.

true that, but if someones life is in danger or they feel threatend, they dont need no bill to shoot someone.....its not like there going to be in the situation thinking "oh the new bill got passed so im going to go shoot this guy". if someone has intentions of shooting you, there going to shoot you weather or not a bill has been passed or not......they wont care, the bill just makes it easier to not get sentanced for murder in court.

B16a2 Civic
04-24-2006, 09:39 AM
i only pop off the .380 if its life threatning, so if that bill passes, i have alot of situations i need to "disolve".

but yeah, every fight i been in, if homeboy hit the ground, he gets stomped out untill i see he wont get up to try and fight again, thats what i aim for in a fight, to beat em enough to make em not want to come back.

now i never want to beat anyone into a seizure or coma, but i did beat a nigga to sleep, i didn't mean to, but thats how the ball rolls sometimes.

A.P. Photography
04-24-2006, 09:40 AM
true that, but if someones life is in danger or they feel threatend, they dont need no bill to shoot someone.....its not like there going to be in the situation thinking "oh the new bill got passed so im going to go shoot this guy". if someone has intentions of shooting you, there going to shoot you weather or not a bill has been passed or not......they wont care, the bill just makes it easier to not get sentanced for murder in court.
No no, the bill would authorize someone NOT in the fight to pull and dissolve the situation.

A.P. Photography
04-24-2006, 09:41 AM
i only pop off the .380 if its life threatning, so if that bill passes, i have alot of situations i need to "disolve".

but yeah, every fight i been in, if homeboy hit the ground, he gets stomped out untill i see he wont get up to try and fight again, thats what i aim for in a fight, to beat em enough to make em not want to come back.

now i never want to beat anyone into a seizure or coma, but i did beat a nigga to sleep, i didn't mean to, but thats how the ball rolls sometimes.
I hear ya

Ruiner
04-24-2006, 10:51 AM
Just remember B and Mark, if the bill the Ruiner mentioned earlier is signed into effect, it is legal for someone carrying a firearm to dissolve the situation by any means neccasary.

Well, depending on the severity, but you get the idea. Knowing that you could have a weapon drawn on you and/or be shot for ganging up and beating someone into a coma mike cause you to think twice...

"16-3-23.1.
A person who uses threats or force in accordance with Code Section 16-3-21, relating to the use of force in defense of self or others, Code Section 16-3-23, relating to the use of force in defense of a habitation, or Code Section 16-3-24, relating to the use of force in defense of property other than a habitation, has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and use force as provided in said Code sections, including deadly force."

FDslider
04-24-2006, 10:53 AM
Well, depending on the severity, but you get the idea. Knowing that you could have a weapon drawn on you and/or be shot for ganging up and beating someone into a coma mike cause you to think twice...

"16-3-23.1.
A person who uses threats or force in accordance with Code Section 16-3-21, relating to the use of force in defense of self or others, Code Section 16-3-23, relating to the use of force in defense of a habitation, or Code Section 16-3-24, relating to the use of force in defense of property other than a habitation, has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and use force as provided in said Code sections, including deadly force."
uh-oh, Ruiner's in here with the legal advice again......

Ruiner
04-24-2006, 11:02 AM
true that, but if someones life is in danger or they feel threatend, they dont need no bill to shoot someone.....its not like there going to be in the situation thinking "oh the new bill got passed so im going to go shoot this guy". if someone has intentions of shooting you, there going to shoot you weather or not a bill has been passed or not......they wont care, the bill just makes it easier to not get sentanced for murder in court.

No, you are missing the point. The bill states that me, as a 3rd party, can come to the defense of someone that I see in serious trouble. What that means is that if you start beating someone down like this, you could have some of the crowd members pulling guns on you with the intent to shoot. We will have the ability (if the bill is signed) to protect citizens as well. Keep that in mind...

Let's say that you hit someone from behind (sucker punch), they fall to the ground, and then you start kicking them in the head. If I witness this (the person is walking way and you are the aggressor that is chasing him down and sucker punching him), I will act accordingly to defend the safety/life of this person that I don't even know. Don't be surprised if a bullet rips through your chest as you are beating this guy into a coma. It will be situation dependent (ie, if he hits you first, then you are in your right to defend yourself) of course. If someone attacks someone from behind as they are walking way (they are no longer a threat), then that person is the aggressor in the situation and is subject to this law.

Ruiner
04-24-2006, 11:03 AM
No no, the bill would authorize someone NOT in the fight to pull and dissolve the situation.

Correct. Everyone wants to act all tough and say that they will beat someone down into the ground...that it is okay to do so. However, it isn't okay and you might have someone stand up and tell you that (in one or more fashions) if you are doing so. :)

A.P. Photography
04-24-2006, 11:05 AM
LOL
GA_Teg = Short to the point version

Ruiner = Well defined version.

Ruiner
04-24-2006, 11:07 AM
uh-oh, Ruiner's in here with the legal advice again......

That wasn't advice. That was part of the actual law.

Da Green Man
04-24-2006, 11:08 AM
yawl are so hard core. :2up:
.380, desert eagle, whoopty fucking doo. I get shot at least twice on my way out of the house everyday so what does that make me?

A.P. Photography
04-24-2006, 11:09 AM
yawl are so hard core. :2up:
.380, desert eagle, whoopty fucking doo. I get shot at least twice on my way out of the house everyday so what does that make me?
target practice :lmfao:

Big Baller
04-24-2006, 11:24 AM
Correct. Everyone wants to act all tough and say that they will beat someone down into the ground...that it is okay to do so. However, it isn't okay and you might have someone stand up and tell you that (in one or more fashions) if you are doing so. :)

Isnt that already protected as Duress(SP). I thought that you could defend another person using deadly force if neccesary. I.E. you feared for their life.

(This is a question I'm not stating this as fact.)

Matt

Ruiner
04-24-2006, 11:34 AM
Isnt that already protected as Duress(SP). I thought that you could defend another person using deadly force if neccesary. I.E. you feared for their life.

(This is a question I'm not stating this as fact.)

Matt

Yes and no. This just expands upon it and allows you to do it in the public realm more easily.

Da Green Man
04-24-2006, 11:38 AM
target practice :lmfao:
LOL!! Good one. I think i yawl get my point though. If i get shot everyday and still hunt muthafukuhz dwn at night with victory, getting shot dnt mean shit. Except it really pisses me off, thats about it.

lowjack
04-24-2006, 11:43 AM
Isnt that already protected as Duress(SP). I thought that you could defend another person using deadly force if neccesary. I.E. you feared for their life.

(This is a question I'm not stating this as fact.)

Matt

That law mainly applies to yourself or a family member. The point of this new law (if signed in) will allow for that to be broadened.

I like ruiner believe the same thing. If someone is going to cause serious bodily harm or death to someone else, they are going to get confronted with a gun. The key part of this and the way the courts will interpet it is if forewarning was giving.

Same senerio as Ruiners:
Some guy beating the life out of another, I pull a gun and say "stop, your going to seriously hurt him", dude does one of the following

1. doesn't stop or
2. Stupid enough to believe I won't shoot him.
3. Comes after me.

Solution : KABLAMM x 3.

4. Guy comes to grips calms down.

The same would hold true if the guy being beat got up grabed a tire iron and tried to go after the 1st dude.

The key to all this is to stop the fighting.

I believe the law lawmakers believe this is a good solution to keep the attackers, beaters, sucker punchers, what have you in check. If they do not value others lives then they risk having their own life taken in the defense of the person they are hurting. Make sense to me.

ShooterMcGavin
04-24-2006, 11:48 AM
makes perfect sense.....to sensible ppl that is. only problem i foresee is, you/ruiner/someone like you two will stand up during a fight to stop it, then someone else (associated with the beater) pulls one out as well and basically starts one big mess.

LemonAJAX
04-24-2006, 12:03 PM
this may have been answered, but when you said jacked up truck, were you referring to the white early 90's sonoma? if so, i know who your talking about (that owns it atleast, not sure who the other guys your talking about) and the guy yall are talkin about that got attacked, is he tall and skinny as hell, short hair and glasses? just tryin' to figure out if these are the guys i usually hang out with up there.

are you thinkin of DR or michael?? cause i went to school with DR and i used to work with michael at publix.. just wondering.. cause in my opinion DR deserves what he gets.. and btw QD!!! I <3 YOU!!!

HyPer50
04-24-2006, 12:09 PM
are you thinkin of DR or michael?? cause i went to school with DR and i used to work with michael at publix.. just wondering.. cause in my opinion DR deserves what he gets.. and btw QD!!! I <3 YOU!!!

Don't know who DR is. Maybe thats the guys name who got beat? Tall, skinny blonde haired dude who is always talkin' smack or cussin' about the cops, and has the speach impediment. Anyways, ya Michael's truck was the one originally mentioned.

LemonAJAX
04-24-2006, 12:10 PM
Don't know who DR is. Maybe thats the guys name who got beat? Tall, skinny blonde haired dude who is always talkin' smack or cussin' about the cops, and has the speach impediment. Anyways, ya Michael's truck was the one originally mentioned.


yeah that sounds like DR.. lol but yeah last time i saw michael's truck it wasn't lifted yet..

HyPer50
04-24-2006, 12:11 PM
yeah that sounds like DR.. lol but yeah last time i saw michael's truck it wasn't lifted yet..

Hmm? His truck has been lifted and sitting 33's for like 8 months now.

BigPoppaHurtm
04-24-2006, 12:14 PM
now from what it sounds like, the bikers were black?

I think they were all white.

LemonAJAX
04-24-2006, 12:25 PM
Hmm? His truck has been lifted and sitting 33's for like 8 months now.

well he hasnt worked at publix for like year and a half now.. lol and that was the last time i saw him.. we are talkin about dubouis right?? (or however you spell it..)

HyPer50
04-24-2006, 12:29 PM
well he hasnt worked at publix for like year and a half now.. lol and that was the last time i saw him.. we are talkin about dubouis right?? (or however you spell it..)

Ya... he's out there at Barrett just about every weekends.. sometimes doorless lol..

LemonAJAX
04-24-2006, 12:33 PM
Ya... he's out there at Barrett just about every weekends.. sometimes doorless lol..

yeah that was when i noticed him..

TheSnail
04-24-2006, 01:16 PM
You know what would be cool. If you saw a fight, pulled out a gun, told them to stop, then put the gun to your own head and pull the trigger. It would confuse the shit out of everyone around and it would make a hell of a story.

A.P. Photography
04-24-2006, 01:17 PM
You know what would be cool. If you saw a fight, pulled out a gun, told them to stop, then put the gun to your own head and pull the trigger. It would confuse the shit out of everyone around and it would make a hell of a story.
:thinking: ummm ok.

fight club
04-24-2006, 01:18 PM
i heard mention of a d.eagle, who has one?

TheSnail
04-24-2006, 01:18 PM
:thinking: ummm ok.

Exactly. You feel confused dont you?

A.P. Photography
04-24-2006, 01:36 PM
Exactly. You feel confused dont you?
Not really but if you want to take attention whore to the next level be my guest. :goodjob:

TheSnail
04-24-2006, 01:44 PM
Well thats what I would do if I was going to kill myself. I would do something funny/bizarre to confuse all others. I would be that guy that wins the lottery, then when they are interviewing me on tv with my big ass check. I pull a 45 out my pocket and blow my brains out on live tv. People would be like "WTF ! "

SOHC MONSTER
04-24-2006, 02:18 PM
Well thats what I would do if I was going to kill myself. I would do something funny/bizarre to confuse all others. I would be that guy that wins the lottery, then when they are interviewing me on tv with my big ass check. I pull a 45 out my pocket and blow my brains out on live tv. People would be like "WTF ! "

Riiiight... :screwy:

quickdodgeŽ
04-24-2006, 02:40 PM
and btw QD!!! I <3 YOU!!!

Not really. Later, QD.

BigPoppaHurtm
04-24-2006, 09:41 PM
Well thats what I would do if I was going to kill myself. I would do something funny/bizarre to confuse all others. I would be that guy that wins the lottery, then when they are interviewing me on tv with my big ass check. I pull a 45 out my pocket and blow my brains out on live tv. People would be like "WTF ! "

I'll tattoo your name on my chest and say Im the snails bitch whenever anyone asks about it if you do that. No seriously.

ironchef
04-24-2006, 09:44 PM
Haha nice, snail please kill yourself LOL.

Seymour222
04-25-2006, 01:26 AM
Well thats what I would do if I was going to kill myself. I would do something funny/bizarre to confuse all others. I would be that guy that wins the lottery, then when they are interviewing me on tv with my big ass check. I pull a 45 out my pocket and blow my brains out on live tv. People would be like "WTF ! "


But then you need something kewl to follow it up with. These are the steps one would take to be distgustingly creative. The steps are:

1. Have a closed casket ceremony in a building with a large vaulted ceiling.

2. Place strobe lights and smoke machines secretly throughout the large room.

3. Have a speaker setup similiar to that of a rave to play some obnoxious techno music, some double stacked fifteens and some loud cones.

4. Have your body strategically placed in the high of the vaulted ceilings where your corpse will be suspended by hooks via some lengthy chains.

5. When everyone is saying their last "good-byes", the Techno music is queued, along with the strobe lights and fog machines, and your smiling corpse swings above the crowd, back and forth like a pendulum.

6. Then you go down in history and get your fifteen minutes of fame, and become a pioneer of creative and awkward funerals. That would top the cake, and make you one of the most unique individuals to ever live.

Just like if you won the lottery and shot yourself on TV.

RandomGuy
04-25-2006, 01:31 AM
But then you need something kewl to follow it up with. These are the steps one would take to be distgustingly creative. The steps are:

1. Have a closed casket ceremony in a building with a large vaulted ceiling.

2. Place strobe lights and smoke machines secretly throughout the large room.

3. Have a speaker setup similiar to that of a rave to play some obnoxious techno music, some double stacked fifteens and some loud cones.

4. Have your body strategically placed in the high of the vaulted ceilings where your corpse will be suspended by hooks via some lengthy chains.

5. When everyone is saying their last "good-byes", the Techno music is queued, along with the strobe lights and fog machines, and your smiling corpse swings above the crowd, back and forth like a pendulum.

6. Then you go down in history and get your fifteen minutes of fame, and become a pioneer of creative and awkward funerals. That would top the cake, and make you one of the most unique individuals to ever live.

Just like if you won the lottery and shot yourself on TV.

yepp, all of that except remember not to close the casket while its swinging... LOL

Seymour222
04-25-2006, 01:32 AM
My fault, the purpose of the closed casket was to secretly suspend your body in the air, while everyone assumes you are in the closed casket. Sorry.

TheSnail
04-25-2006, 01:39 AM
It would be best if those hooks and lines were connected to electric motors which are symphonized to the music like stobe lights. So your rotting corpse could dance to the music with everyone else.

Seymour222
04-25-2006, 01:40 AM
It would be best if those hooks and lines were connected to electric motors which are symphonized to the music like stobe lights. So your rotting corps could dance to the music with everyone else.

Excellent Idea, Noted.

Flip
04-25-2006, 03:45 AM
I asked a cop about this specific situation on another forum and this was his response to me asking if pulling a gun and using it if needed would be backed up by the law if it was used to possibly save someones life.

"Self defense (or defense of others) is a big grey area, especially when it involves deadly force, and especially if the other person is unarmed. It all pretty much boils down to how you can articulate the situation to the judge after the fact. If you honestly feel in your heart that that man will die if you don't do something, and the number of people attacking him leads you to believe that they would turn and try to seriously injure or kill you if you tried to intervene otherwise, then you do what you have to do."

HyPer50
04-25-2006, 06:18 AM
I asked a cop about this specific situation on another forum and this was his response to me asking if pulling a gun and using it if needed would be backed up by the law if it was used to possibly save someones life.

"Self defense (or defense of others) is a big grey area, especially when it involves deadly force, and especially if the other person is unarmed. It all pretty much boils down to how you can articulate the situation to the judge after the fact. If you honestly feel in your heart that that man will die if you don't do something, and the number of people attacking him leads you to believe that they would turn and try to seriously injure or kill you if you tried to intervene otherwise, then you do what you have to do."

Well, I've always felt that if it came down to me shooting someone, I will TRY and aim below the waist simply cause I don't want to be responsible for killing a person, but if it's a life threatening situation, like dude has a gun or knife and is threatening me or someone else, few shots to the body.