Someone lose a ferrari? this might of killed it...

[fight club]

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=199840342&dealer_id=57711033&car_year=2004&model=IMPREZ&bkms=1144737544715&lang=en&isp=y&start_year=1981&certified=&search_type=both&distance=50&make=SUB&min_price=&address=30043&advanced=&end_year=2007&max_price=&cardist=19

anyone know this car?!?~? seems kinda nice not to be known on here....

[Flip]

sweet :), but for that much more money than i paid for mine (and considering miles) i could make mine 700 hp... :P

[fight club]

lol

[Ruiner]

"lose" a Ferrari... not "loose" ;)

Btw, that's Dan's STi, isn't it? I hate to see it go. :( Dan, however, threw down more power than that. I think that he hit 603awhp or something...

[Nemesis]

CherryCoolAid: were you at Fury this weekend?

[thinkfast®]

nice find dipshit

[fight club]

no i didnt make it out. i was stuck in statesboro. my friend did and i am very envious.

[fight club]

and ruiner, thanks for the spell check! lol. how would ur porsche stand up to this?

[Ruiner]

and ruiner, thanks for the spell check! lol. how would ur porsche stand up to this?

It, along with a Ferrari Enzo, a Carrera GT, and various other high priced imports would lose in a straight line. If this is Dan's car, I remember it putting down just over 600awhp...

[ALVIN]

wouldnt it have to be 600 all wheel hp seeing as how its an STi?

Correct me if im wrong though.

[4dmin]

It, along with a Ferrari Enzo, a Carrera GT, and various other high priced imports would lose in a straight line. If this is Dan's car, I remember it putting down just over 600rwhp...

no doubt, throw some twisties in there and bye bye sti

[Dragonfly5338]

wouldnt it have to be 600 all wheel hp seeing as how its an STi?

Ruiner just made a typo, don't start thinking you know more about cars than he does, now. ;)

Yes, it's Dan's car.. he had to move to Kansas to be with his son, and figured he was more important than the car (awww!). I think he ended up with 616whp. The car is a beast.

And no, you couldn't make yours that fast with what he's asking for his car. 30,000 + 2,000 does NOT equal 616whp.

[fight club]

..... my god ruiner, what is ur porsche making!?!? i knew it was fast but daaaamn.... and paul, you mean awhp?

[Ruiner]

Ruiner just made a typo, don't start thinking you know more about cars than he does, now. ;)

Yes, it's Dan's car.. he had to move to Kansas to be with his son, and figured he was more important than the car (awww!). I think he ended up with 616whp. The car is a beast.

And no, you couldn't make yours that fast with what he's asking for his car. 30,000 + 2,000 does NOT equal 616whp.

Yeah, it was a typo. I put AWHP on my first post. ;) My fingers are working faster than my mind. I am so used to typing "rwhp".

[ALVIN]

Ruiner just made a typo, don't start thinking you know more about cars than he does, now. ;)

Yes, it's Dan's car.. he had to move to Kansas to be with his son, and figured he was more important than the car (awww!). I think he ended up with 616whp. The car is a beast.

And no, you couldn't make yours that fast with what he's asking for his car. 30,000 + 2,000 does NOT equal 616whp.

I don't know a damn thing about cars lol...just wondering because it made me think twice, and I was like WTF? lol Bad ass car and this Dan guy's decision to put his son above his car is a really good one...I would deff. do that for my daughter.

[Ruiner]

..... my god ruiner, what is ur porsche making!?!? i knew it was fast but daaaamn.... and paul, you mean awhp?

I dunno. It is fast, but not nearly as fast as Dan's STi. I am still running stock boost of ~9lbs. I can, however, still put down low 12s (high 11s if I switch back to the factory tires) all day.

[fight club]

oh ok, i was under impression enzo n carrarra gt were faster than 12s... guess not?

[fight club]

and val, thats an awesome story bout the dan leaving for his son, kinda inspires faith in the human race.

[Ruiner]

oh ok, i was under impression enzo n carrarra gt were faster than 12s... guess not?

Huh? No. You misread what I said. I said "it" (as in my car) along with the Enzo and Carrera GT would lose to Dan's STi in a straight line.

The Enzo and Carrera GT are technically high 10s cars if given enough traction.

[Ruiner]

and val, thats an awesome story bout the dan leaving for his son, kinda inspires faith in the human race.

My father was a judge for 20 years and is still a practicing attorney. I can tell you stories that will make you HATE the human race...

[fight club]

OHHHHH makes sensenow i was like :eek: DAMN that must be one hell of a porsche. and as for the stories, i think ill pass, as i have a strong dislike for it already. lol.

[Big Baller]

sweet :), but for that much more money than i paid for mine (and considering miles) i could make mine 700 hp... :P


You highly underestimate how much money it takes to make 700hp in a subaru. That car is Dans it was built by ********, I dont like either of them but its still a good deal you cant build that car for anywhere near that amount of money.

Matt

[Dragonfly5338]

You highly underestimate how much money it takes to make 700hp in a subaru. That car is Dans it was built by ********, I dont like either of them but its still a good deal you cant build that car for anywhere near that amount of money.

Matt

Exactly. I'd like to know how you can get that much HP with 2 grand. We've all been wasting our money if somehow this guy knows the secret.

[fight club]

val, its simple
tornado intake insert ftw!!!!

[lightspeed]

no doubt, throw some twisties in there and bye bye sti
I dont know what suspension setup that white STI has, but I wouldnt presume it would be "bye-bye sti" in the twisites or on a track... Properly setup with that much power, an STI would romp a lot of exotics. I bet an STI with the same power as a 911 turbo would be just as effective on any track, with a little suspension work. Its already got equal or better brakes and a good powertrain and chassis. A stock skyline gtr, for example, beat a 911 turbo at Nurburgring, with less power. Same concept.

[thinkfast®]

http://www.freshhome.co.uk/uploaded_images/over_the_top-780220.jpg

OVER THE TOP FTW!!! I LOVE YOU SON

[usuckatlife]

:eek: damn i wondered why i hadnt seen dan in a while! good cause tho... dan's a good man. and that car is wicked fast. lol i remember the ride in that thing.... bout made me piss myself.

[Big Baller]

I dont know what suspension setup that white STI has, but I wouldnt presume it would be "bye-bye sti" in the twisites or on a track... Properly setup with that much power, an STI would romp a lot of exotics. I bet an STI with the same power as a 911 turbo would be just as effective on any track, with a little suspension work. Its already got equal or better brakes and a good powertrain and chassis. A stock skyline gtr, for example, beat a 911 turbo at Nurburgring, with less power. Same concept.

You are wrong

[4dmin]

You are wrong

X2, that is way too much power for twisties, and i know that car for a fact couldn't hang w/ some high end stock euros :goodjob:

[man]

no i didnt make it out. i was stuck in statesboro. my friend did and i am very envious.
+1 for the Statesboro action... lol j/k the Boro sucks. Btw was that you a couple weeks ago on 16 heading east? My friend and I were heading to Savannah in our FCs (red and white)

[fight club]

HAHHA yes it was. me and ur friend "ran" a bit.

[man]

I dont know what suspension setup that white STI has, but I wouldnt presume it would be "bye-bye sti" in the twisites or on a track... Properly setup with that much power, an STI would romp a lot of exotics. I bet an STI with the same power as a 911 turbo would be just as effective on any track, with a little suspension work. Its already got equal or better brakes and a good powertrain and chassis. A stock skyline gtr, for example, beat a 911 turbo at Nurburgring, with less power. Same concept.

Ummm.... no. The r33 skyline holds a slower time than even the new carrera s. Has less powerful brakes (much less). Where does your info come from?

Here's a slightly outdated list of nurburgring's top 10

7:32 - Porsche Carrera GT (7:32.44)
7:44 - Zonda
7:46 - Porsche 996 GT2
7:47 - Porsche Gt3 RS (sport tyres)
7:50 - M3 CSL (sport tyres)
7:52 - GT3 (381hp)
7:52 - Lamborghini Gallardo
7:52 - Lamborghini Murcielao
7:52 - Mercedes SLR mclaren
7:56 - Porsche 996 Turbo

[man]

HAHHA yes it was. me and ur friend "ran" a bit.
Yeah, I heard. He said your car was pretty quick. I find it hard to believe that a miata can keep up with a FC running 13lbs with a turbo back (he said you kept up pretty well). But that kid can't drive anyway, I beat him in my completely stock fc lol. Nice car though!

[fight club]

lol yea i was very surprised on how i stayed with him. at first i thought he might be just an na with turbo badges but once i heard them spoolin i was like, wow..... my miata....turbo rx7....hell has frozen over. lol

[fight club]

fc man, what all is done to his car?

[Tiff-O-Bitties]

nice find dipshit

shut up bitch.

[thinkfast®]

oh hell naw Tiff, your gonna get it

:points to crotch:

[Tiff-O-Bitties]

oh hell naw Tiff, your gonna get it

:points to crotch:

bring it... :idb:

[fight club]

::interested in what the fuck is going on, sits down, orders a pizza::

[man]

fc man, what all is done to his car?
Turbo XS, manual boost controller set to 13, Racing Beat Turbo-back exhaust, HKS Intake, Aftermarket Clutch (dont remember the brand), ummm... I don't think there was anything else really.

[fight club]

how in the fuck did i stay close to him1!?!?!

[thinkfast®]

bring it... :idb:

:looks down:

Oh its already been brought! wadup though?!?

[lightspeed]

Ummm.... no. The r33 skyline holds a slower time than even the new carrera s. Has less powerful brakes (much less). Where does your info come from?

Umm, thanks for the mis-quotes, but:
1. I said nothing about which skyline I was talking about. The r34 was faster in the list I saw.
2. I said nothing about "powerful" brakes, I said equal or better. I got this from a couple road tests that had 60-0 and 80-0 braking tests for the cars. Both the STI/EVO and the 911 turbo have very comparable braking hardware, including EBD, and the EVO/STI weigh less and should therefore have less overall braking requirements.

I got my information from this list, which I downloaded:
**note the relative positions of the cars I spoke about

BMW M3 GTR Schnitzer (11/2002) 7:12.25
Radical SR3 Turbo ( 7/2003) 7.19 (7:26 road tyres link???)
Porsche Carrera GT ( 9/2004) 7:32.44 (22.835km circuit)
TechArt-Porsche GT street ( 8/2001) 7:43
Pagani Zonda S ( 7/2002) 7:44
Porsche 911 GT2 ( 6/2001) 7:46
Porsche 911 GT3 RS ( 3/2004) 7:47
Porsche 911 GT3 Cup ( 2/1999) 7:49
Lamborghini Murciélago ( 6/2002) 7:50
BMW M3 CSL ( 8/2003) 7:50
Mercedes SLR McLaren ( 6/2004) 7:52
Nissan Skyline GT-R R34 (???) 7:52
Lamborghini Gallardo (12/2003) 7:52
Porsche 911 GT3 ( 6/2003) 7:54
Ferrari Challenge Stradale ( 2/2004) 7:56
Porsche 911 Turbo ( 6/2000) 7:56
Lotec-Porsche 911 Turbo ( 5/1998) 7:57
Nissan Skyline GT-R R33 (???) 7:59

That skyline time is "unofficial" because they removed the top-speed governor from it for the test. But, since the 911 turbo isnt limited, this really just shows what the cars are capable of.

Also, if you look at this excerpt of the race track results from the "Top Gear" TV show time-attacks, they show the STI and the EVO both ahead of the 911 turbo. If you have seen the TV show, the track is pretty techincal and relies on handling/braking more than pure power. Once again, ill bold the cars Im talking about:

Mitsubishi Evo VIII - 1.28.9
BMW Alpine Z8 - 1.29.0
Mercedes CL65 - 1.29
Alfa 3.7 GTA - 1.30.0
Subaru Impreza STI - 1.30.1
Vauxhall Monaro VXR - 1.30.1
Aston Martin DB7 GT - 1.30.4
Golf R32 - 1.30.4 -NEW
Audi S4 - 1.30.9
Porsche 911 turbo - 1.31.0
Vauxhall VX 220 turbo - 1.31.3

This is going tangental anyway. My point is that "exotics" dont necessarily hold any performance edges over well built tuner (or even "less exotic" factory) cars.

[Ruiner]

OHHHHH makes sensenow i was like :eek: DAMN that must be one hell of a porsche. and as for the stories, i think ill pass, as i have a strong dislike for it already. lol.

It's not difficult to get a lot of power out of a Porsche, though. Just a simple turbo swap, ECU reprogram, intake, exhaust, and fuel pressure regulator will get you over 600+hp.

[man]

why dont we throw up the 2007 911 turbo for good measure

Quote Speedtv.com
"Around Germany’s Nürburgring track in the dry, the car’s lap time is 7min 49sec on standard tires (8min flat for the outgoing model) and 7min 42sec on the sports tires."

Also, on the top gear board, look what's right above the evo.

Porsche 911 Carrera S - 1.28.9 (very wet)

[Ruiner]

A stock skyline gtr, for example, beat a 911 turbo at Nurburgring, with less power. Same concept.

Wrong...

[Tiff-O-Bitties]

:looks down:

Oh its already been brought! wadup though?!?

not shit... had to go get my lunch for the day.. you know my lettuce...

[Ruiner]

Umm, thanks for the mis-quotes, but:
1. I said nothing about which skyline I was talking about. The r34 was faster in the list I saw.
2. I said nothing about "powerful" brakes, I said equal or better. I got this from a couple road tests that had 60-0 and 80-0 braking tests for the cars. Both the STI/EVO and the 911 turbo have very comparable braking hardware, including EBD, and the EVO/STI weigh less and should therefore have less overall braking requirements.

I got my information from this list, which I downloaded:
**note the relative positions of the cars I spoke about

BMW M3 GTR Schnitzer (11/2002) 7:12.25
Radical SR3 Turbo ( 7/2003) 7.19 (7:26 road tyres link???)
Porsche Carrera GT ( 9/2004) 7:32.44 (22.835km circuit)
TechArt-Porsche GT street ( 8/2001) 7:43
Pagani Zonda S ( 7/2002) 7:44
Porsche 911 GT2 ( 6/2001) 7:46
Porsche 911 GT3 RS ( 3/2004) 7:47
Porsche 911 GT3 Cup ( 2/1999) 7:49
Lamborghini Murciélago ( 6/2002) 7:50
BMW M3 CSL ( 8/2003) 7:50
Mercedes SLR McLaren ( 6/2004) 7:52
Nissan Skyline GT-R R34 (???) 7:52
Lamborghini Gallardo (12/2003) 7:52
Porsche 911 GT3 ( 6/2003) 7:54
Ferrari Challenge Stradale ( 2/2004) 7:56
Porsche 911 Turbo ( 6/2000) 7:56
Lotec-Porsche 911 Turbo ( 5/1998) 7:57
Nissan Skyline GT-R R33 (???) 7:59

That skyline time is "unofficial" because they removed the top-speed governor from it for the test. But, since the 911 turbo isnt limited, this really just shows what the cars are capable of.

Also, if you look at this excerpt of the race track results from the "Top Gear" TV show time-attacks, they show the STI and the EVO both ahead of the 911 turbo. If you have seen the TV show, the track is pretty techincal and relies on handling/braking more than pure power. Once again, ill bold the cars Im talking about:

Mitsubishi Evo VIII - 1.28.9
BMW Alpine Z8 - 1.29.0
Mercedes CL65 - 1.29
Alfa 3.7 GTA - 1.30.0
Subaru Impreza STI - 1.30.1
Vauxhall Monaro VXR - 1.30.1
Aston Martin DB7 GT - 1.30.4
Golf R32 - 1.30.4 -NEW
Audi S4 - 1.30.9
Porsche 911 turbo - 1.31.0
Vauxhall VX 220 turbo - 1.31.3

This is going tangental anyway. My point is that "exotics" dont necessarily hold any performance edges over well built tuner (or even "less exotic" factory) cars.

A. The Skyline R34 GTR was not stock. It was a special edition if I remember correctly.
B. The time for the 911 turbo has a "*" after it (which was surprisingly left off for some reason). The * dictates a note: this test was done in the rain. I have a video of the test to prove this. If it has not been for the rain, it would have gone another 0.4-0.5 seconds faster.

Lightspeed: the info that you posted was inaccurate.

[fight club]

it doesnt matter realy, because we all know i hold the record at the track with my miata LOL.

[lightspeed]

A. The Skyline R34 GTR was not stock. It was a special edition if I remember correctly.
B. The time for the 911 turbo has a "*" after it (which was surprisingly left off for some reason). The * dictates a note: this test was done in the rain. I have a video of the test to prove this. If it has not been for the rain, it would have gone another 0.4-0.5 seconds faster.
Lightspeed: the info that you posted was inaccurate.
a few responses, then I have to get some work done.
A. I dont recall it saying the skyline was modified, other than in the article it mentioned the skylines had the governor removed. I will say that I dont know, so I can argue that point. Im also not a huge skyline fan, so its not a huge deal to me anyway. If I could find that website again, I would gladly post the link. Thats not the first time Ive seen a list with that fast skyline in it either. In any case, that track is much more high-speed, so I expect a more powerful car to do relatively better. Its not "twisties."
B. I dont know if youre talking about the Nurburing or the Top Gear test. If its the Nurburing one, I would expect rain to have caused more of a difference than .5 sec on that big of a track. If you are talking about Top Gear, .5 sec still wouldnt have made-up the difference between the 996 and the STI even. I also didnt see any ***'s next to it, but here is the link from Top Gear's website, if you would like to try to find some ***'s.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/topgear/powerlaps/index.shtml
I do see that they say the 911 carrera S test was with a very wet track, but they didnt mention it for the turbo. As a matter of fact, a lot of their tests in the shows are done in wet...it seems like it rains most of the time there. There is no reason to think the other cars didnt have the same issue.
I would consider their test track to be more indicative of "twisties" than a lot of other tracks though.

As for being inaccurate lists, I posted them as I found them. I dont see anything that inaccurate except for the other Ring list didnt show that particular skyline's times in it. Other cars that are shown on both lists show the same times.
And back to my only original point..."exotics" arent necessarily faster in the twisites, or anywhere else, than a well tuned non-exotic. I didnt even have a desire to harp on the 911 turbo specifically in this, since I dont consider it an exotic anyway. It was just a segway into the point.

[Ruiner]

a few responses, then I have to get some work done.
A. I dont recall it saying the skyline was modified, other than in the article it mentioned the skylines had the governor removed. I will say that I dont know, so I can argue that point. Im also not a huge skyline fan, so its not a huge deal to me anyway. If I could find that website again, I would gladly post the link. Thats not the first time Ive seen a list with that fast skyline in it either. In any case, that track is much more high-speed, so I expect a more powerful car to do relatively better. Its not "twisties."
B. I dont know if youre talking about the Nurburing or the Top Gear test. If its the Nurburing one, I would expect rain to have caused more of a difference than .5 sec on that big of a track. If you are talking about Top Gear, .5 sec still wouldnt have made-up the difference between the 996 and the STI even. I also didnt see any ***'s next to it, but here is the link from Top Gear's website, if you would like to try to find some ***'s.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/topgear/powerlaps/index.shtml
I do see that they say the 911 carrera S test was with a very wet track, but they didnt mention it for the turbo. As a matter of fact, a lot of their tests in the shows are done in wet...it seems like it rains most of the time there. There is no reason to think the other cars didnt have the same issue.
I would consider their test track to be more indicative of "twisties" than a lot of other tracks though.

As for being inaccurate lists, I posted them as I found them. I dont see anything that inaccurate except for the other Ring list didnt show that particular skyline's times in it. Other cars that are shown on both lists show the same times.
And back to my only original point..."exotics" arent necessarily faster in the twisites, or anywhere else, than a well tuned non-exotic. I didnt even have a desire to harp on the 911 turbo specifically in this, since I dont consider it an exotic anyway. It was just a segway into the point.

A. At 320hp (advertised), a 3400lbs Skyline GT R34 is not going to outrun a 996TT (420hp European spec). My car will do 192mph stock, on the top end. The Skyline (stock) won't even come close. The coeffecient of drag will kill that nonsense. Also, the brakes on a 996TT are better and hold up better than that of an R34. That is a huge issue as well. Trust me, it wasn't stock. There was some work done to it beyond the governer.

B. Yes, I was talking about the top gear track. In dry weather, they (Jeremy Clarkson) said that it would be in the 1:26-1:27 area. That's 1 minute, 26 seconds. Yes, 0.5 s would have made a rather large difference. Like I said, I have the video of this test at home. I will gladly host it for you later if you would like. They put a * on the board where they mark the time down after the Stig drove it. The 996TT is faster than the new Carrera S (rated at 355hp). The track was also a LOT more wet than when the Carrera S ran as well. I have seen all the videos, you will just have to trust me on this one.

[4dmin]

A. The Skyline R34 GTR was not stock. It was a special edition if I remember correctly.
B. The time for the 911 turbo has a "*" after it (which was surprisingly left off for some reason). The * dictates a note: this test was done in the rain. I have a video of the test to prove this. If it has not been for the rain, it would have gone another 0.4-0.5 seconds faster.

Lightspeed: the info that you posted was inaccurate.


:lmfao: OWNED!!!

[lightspeed]

:lmfao: OWNED!!!
lol, like you know. its not inaccurate just because it didnt spin the numbers the way ruiner wanted them to be seen. I just posted the information I could find quickly.
It was your silly comment that started this in the first place haha.

[4dmin]

lol, like you know. its not inaccurate just because it didnt spin the numbers the way ruiner wanted them to be seen. I just posted the information I could find quickly.
It was your silly comment that started this in the first place haha.

dude i would take what Brandon says any day over what you post and if you would like i can get a copy of that if we need to post it up :goodjob:


and yes my silly comment, i don't know how many 600whp+ sti you've taken up in the mountains lately but i know for a fact cars w/ 1/3 of that power can out handle and pull better times...

how about this you bring your 600whp sti out and brandon will bring his porsche and we'll find out? :goodjob:

[rolling_trip]

i've rode in dan's car a couple of times and it is very fast, a little to laggy for me, but hey thats just my opinion. I may be about to get flamed, but I think a porsche is in a completely different league than the STi, this coming from a STi owner. If you doubt me, look at the porsche's hertiage, compared to subaru's. No matter how many aftermarket parts we add to our cars, the porsche will still be a better designed car, period.

[4dmin]

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/84375/porsche_911/

^^^ so you were wrong if track was dry it would go 1.27.5 like the porsche 911 GT3

[fight club]

the skyline gtr was not neccessarily modded, but it was the ztune edition. they took 25 skyline r34s and pretty much made them the jtc500 cars. but its common sense that a sti will never be a porsche.

[Ruiner]

the skyline gtr was not neccessarily modded, but it was the ztune edition. they took 25 skyline r34s and pretty much made them the jtc500 cars. but its common sense that a sti will never be a porsche.

Well, it was not a "stock" R34 as I said. It was the R34 Z-tune edition; hardly a stock R34 in the sense of what was listed.

[RandomGuy]

i drove a porsche 944 turbo... lol it was the most non-well pulling car ever... I got more G's from a turbo'd honda.... It was :gay:

anyways i know all of the others except the boxter are on a whole 'nother level... but why the hell would porsche make the 944! lol

The value for 'em is under like 5k now ... which should tell you something... They are crazy unreliable, and pull like shit. A NA supra(mk3) will give it a run for the money.

[/irrelevant post]

[Ruiner]

Randomguy: Try running in a tuned/modded 944 Turbo S. :) That will quickly change your opinion on things, I promise. ;)

[fight club]

Well, it was not a "stock" R34 as I said. It was the R34 Z-tune edition; hardly a stock R34 in the sense of what was listed.


correct, i was just further delving into what the r34 was. :)

[Ruiner]

correct, i was just further delving into what the r34 was. :)

Thank you for your info, kind sir.

[fight club]

no problem what so ever. if i get really bored, i might make a post bout the z tune so everyone knows the difference. but im not quite sure i can bring myself to do that kind of strenuous google searching lol

[fight club]

bored....lol
http://www.nissangtrproto.com/nismo-z-tune-r34/
everything u need to understand how that gtr did so well.

[speedminded]

BMW M3 GTR Schnitzer (11/2002) 7:12.25
Radical SR3 Turbo ( 7/2003) 7.19 (7:26 road tyres link???)
Porsche Carrera GT ( 9/2004) 7:32.44 (22.835km circuit)
TechArt-Porsche GT street ( 8/2001) 7:43
Pagani Zonda S ( 7/2002) 7:44
Porsche 911 GT2 ( 6/2001) 7:46
Porsche 911 GT3 RS ( 3/2004) 7:47
Porsche 911 GT3 Cup ( 2/1999) 7:49
Lamborghini Murciélago ( 6/2002) 7:50
BMW M3 CSL ( 8/2003) 7:50
Mercedes SLR McLaren ( 6/2004) 7:52
Nissan Skyline GT-R R34 (???) 7:52
Lamborghini Gallardo (12/2003) 7:52
Porsche 911 GT3 ( 6/2003) 7:54
Ferrari Challenge Stradale ( 2/2004) 7:56
Porsche 911 Turbo ( 6/2000) 7:56
Lotec-Porsche 911 Turbo ( 5/1998) 7:57
Nissan Skyline GT-R R33 (???) 7:59
think i'd give my left nut for that car :D I can get off to this 7:19sec lap video :nautjerk: lol http://www.radicalmotorsport.com/gallery/ring2b.mpg

[fight club]

DEAR GOD!!!!! :eek:

and your left nut? :rly:

we might have a bargian LOL.

[lightspeed]

bored....lol
http://www.nissangtrproto.com/nismo-z-tune-r34/
everything u need to understand how that gtr did so well.
are you sure thats the one they ran at nuburgring? That article looks pretty new. I remember seeing this list including a GTR for quite some time now. I agree it would justify the additional performance over the other ones in the list.

[lightspeed]

i've rode in dan's car a couple of times and it is very fast, a little to laggy for me, but hey thats just my opinion. I may be about to get flamed, but I think a porsche is in a completely different league than the STi, this coming from a STi owner. If you doubt me, look at the porsche's hertiage, compared to subaru's. No matter how many aftermarket parts we add to our cars, the porsche will still be a better designed car, period.
I wasnt at all trying to make any specific comparisons, Im just using examples. I know what the STI limitations are, and no its not as well designed as a Porsche. That wasnt the point here. But with the right parts, it (and many other cars) can be made to perform as well as a Porsche or an exotic, for much less money overall.

[lightspeed]

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/84375/porsche_911/

^^^ so you were wrong if track was dry it would go 1.27.5 like the porsche 911 GT3
What are you talking about? Thats a normal 997 carrera s. I already said it was really wet on that run, but thats irrelevant. We arent discussing that car.


how about this you bring your 600whp sti out and brandon will bring his porsche and we'll find out? :goodjob:
I wish that STI was mine. Mine is stock, although Id be glad to take it up to N. Georgia mountains and see whats what. I just got it last month, so I havent had time to really see what it can do.

[fight club]

are you sure thats the one they ran at nuburgring? That article looks pretty new. I remember seeing this list including a GTR for quite some time now. I agree it would justify the additional performance over the other ones in the list.


yea, im almost 100% pos that is the one that was ran. Nismo ran it to show off the car WAY before the specs were released and the car released to the owners. i do know for, a fact, that top speed used it in their show, and its the gtr that is on the wall of times. unless i am proven wrong, i stand by the fact that the z tune was used at nureinburnging <<spelling>> as one i saw the video LOL and two, a stock gtr would never pull those times.

[rolling_trip]

I wasnt at all trying to make any specific comparisons, Im just using examples. I know what the STI limitations are, and no its not as well designed as a Porsche. That wasnt the point here. But with the right parts, it (and many other cars) can be made to perform as well as a Porsche or an exotic, for much less money overall.

it wasn't really aimed at you, just throwing my 2 cents out. make no mistake, i love my car, but i know its rank in the food chain. :D

[fight club]

thanks to whomever corrected the blatent misspelling on my part.

[speedminded]

i drove a porsche 944 turbo... lol it was the most non-well pulling car ever... I got more G's from a turbo'd honda.... It was :gay:

anyways i know all of the others except the boxter are on a whole 'nother level... but why the hell would porsche make the 944! lol

The value for 'em is under like 5k now ... which should tell you something... They are crazy unreliable, and pull like shit. A NA supra(mk3) will give it a run for the money.

[/irrelevant post]Correction, why the hell did Porsche make the 924 (the cheapest of the poor man's porsche)? The 944 turbo (951) is only a 4 cylinder with just under 217hp (the '88 Turbo S had 250hp though) and unless the Honda was a SOHC turbo then it's gonna have quite a bit more than 220hp with minimal tuning...I've seen that 2.5 liter in the porsche built out the ass though. The best is a twin turbo LS1 in a 994 shell :D

[RandomGuy]

Correction, why the hell did Porsche make the 924 (the cheapest of the poor man's porsche)? The 944 turbo (951) is only a 4 cylinder with just under 217hp (the '88 Turbo S had 250hp though) and unless the Honda was a SOHC turbo then it's gonna have quite a bit more than 220hp with minimal tuning...I've seen that 2.5 liter in the porsche built out the ass though. The best is a twin turbo LS1 in a 994 shell :D
lol yeah true... but for some reason i can stand the way the 924's look... I HATE the 944's lol

anyways porsche should stick with good shit and not release any more 'boxters' and cheyennes lol... it degrades the company. Maybe do a ferrari-maserati type of thing...but they're ruining the label.

[Ruiner]

lol yeah true... but for some reason i can stand the way the 924's look... I HATE the 944's lol

anyways porsche should stick with good shit and not release any more 'boxters' and cheyennes lol... it degrades the company. Maybe do a ferrari-maserati type of thing...but they're ruining the label.

#1. Boxer engine + Roadster = Boxster

#2. Porsche is 100% independent. Ferrari is not. They are owned by Fiat. They only make cars to suppliment their racing. They also have a parent company. Porsche does not. Porsche HAS to broaden its product line in order to sell cars. The Boxster and Cayenne SAVED Porsche from going under. I am not sure if you were aware of that or not...

[fight club]

i personally like the Cayenne. at least the Cayenne S, its a refreshing take on the dull world of SUVs. and as for the boxter, well i cant hate it too much because the hardtop, something known as a Cayman, KICKS ASS.

[Ruiner]

i personally like the Cayenne. at least the Cayenne S, its a refreshing take on the dull world of SUVs. and as for the boxter, well i cant hate it too much because the hardtop, something known as a Cayman, KICKS ASS.

The Cayenne Turbo (450hp) or Cayenne Turbo S (520hp) are the only ones to get. The Cayenne and Cayenne S are N/A and thus, "eh" in comparison. ;)


The Cayman S is a great car, but it runs about $10k too much I think...

[fight club]

lol yea price is a bit high for me. and when i said i like the Cayenne i did not know there were N/A versions of them, so i meant the turbo. i thought it was just the Cayenne turbo and the turbo s. i stand corrected. :doh:

[Ruiner]

lol yea price is a bit high for me. and when i said i like the Cayenne i did not know there were N/A versions of them, so i meant the turbo. i thought it was just the Cayenne turbo and the turbo s. i stand corrected. :doh:

Yeah, the Cayenne is a V6 and the Cayenne S is a V8. The Turbo and Turbo S are both TT V8s.

[fight club]

gotcha, well fuck those v6 sonsabitches i want the tt!