what can i do to be faster

[dowhatido]

94 honda civic w/gsr swap: headers, intake, exhaust (i have straight piped into a greddy ev2 muffler; which i think is faster w/no muffler?), clutch- 6puc, fpregulator, struts/springs, oh and the flywheel is shaved.

now i know every1 wants to say turbo, trust me thats what the goal is but for right now. what can i do?

[The BUCKY]

sell it

[Dirty Octopus™]

get NOS!!!

[TeeJay]

NAWSSSSSS FTW!!! nah but for real, an aftermarket intake manifold would help...like a skunk 2 or aebs. im not sure if aebs makes one for the gsr yet though. or u can do a lil weight reduction, advance timing, etc.

[Whatthatslame]

Chipped ECU....

[BTLFED]

Two words: Nitrous Oxide. There should be a bottle in every household. :goodjob:

[ECMgarrett]

you have a lot of options
weight reduction
n2o
turbo
s/c
intake mani
cams
headwork
tuning

[rolling_trip]

sell it
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

[wantboost]

cams

[bigdare23]

Replace the driver!!!

[dowhatido]

sell it.....lol shut up..... it will be there one day!

[dowhatido]

Replace the driver!!!...........driver realy is ok, i can drive the fuk out of this car, just stock gsr w/bolt ons, high-mid 14's is getting old, but i got a kid and wife an house killin my pocket

[BABY J]

NAWSSSSSS FTW!!! nah but for real, an aftermarket intake manifold would help...like a skunk 2 or aebs. im not sure if aebs makes one for the gsr yet though. or u can do a lil weight reduction, advance timing, etc.

Naah, only makes power from 7 - 10k RPMS... I am sure he is not spinning a stock top end that high. I say go with cams/spray. You can dial in another 20 - 30whp (average) w/ the Hondata s200 or s300.

[Cool Cat GTR]

The best bet "for the money and reliability" is a Jackson Racing Supercharger. It bolts on and most car enthusists can do the install in a day. Maybe two days if it's your first time. Just my two cents.

[BABY J]

The best bet "for the money and reliability" is a Jackson Racing Supercharger. It bolts on and most car enthusists can do the install in a day. Maybe two days if it's your first time. Just my two cents.


...........driver realy is ok, i can drive the fuk out of this car, just stock gsr w/bolt ons, high-mid 14's is getting old, but i got a kid and wife an house killin my pocket

That puts the S/C out.

[dowhatido]

IN MY OPINION, NEVER SUPERCHARGE A 4CYL, BUT I'M UP TO REASON ON WHY IT'S GOOD TO DO SO-------THIS WILL SOUND STUPIT! I GUY I KNOW HAS D17 S/C, WHICH I KNO IT'S SOHC, BUT STILL TO SPEND $4500 ON PARTS AND LABOR I'LL WAX HIS ASS

[BABY J]

IN MY OPINION, NEVER SUPERCHARGE A 4CYL, BUT I'M UP TO REASON ON WHY IT'S GOOD TO DO SO-------THIS WILL SOUND STUPIT! I GUY I KNOW HAS D17 S/C, WHICH I KNO IT'S SOHC, BUT STILL TO SPEND $4500 ON PARTS AND LABOR I'LL WAX HIS ASS

I have a N/A SOHC that will wax yours!! LOL. You are looking at only 60 addit'l HP on a D series w/ a J/R SC. They are not $4k though, more around $2K (it's listed on their site). But I agree, still not worth it in the end (for the SOHC). It is def worth it on a DOHC (4cyl) though.

[BTLFED]

Replace the driver!!!

Bahahahaha!! +1! :lmfao:

[dowhatido]

thats funny, when i built my sohc i think it would have of wax'd my own ass, but still no potetial with the sohc

r.i.p. red 95ex
titanium springs & retainers
BIG ass fukn valves
ported and decked like hell 13:1
high comp pistons
mean ass cam (1)...lol
sleaved
eagle rods

and to top it off, knifed broken crankshaft, but untill thats shit broke that fukr would haul som asssss

[BABY J]

thats funny, when i built my sohc i think it would have of wax'd my own ass, but still no potetial with the sohc

r.i.p. red 95ex
titanium springs & retainers
BIG ass fukn valves
ported and decked like hell 13:1
high comp pistons
mean ass cam (1)...lol
sleaved
eagle rods

and to top it off, knifed broken crankshaft, but untill thats shit broke that fukr would haul som asssss

Which SOHC did u build? www.turbod16.com (http://www.turbod16.com) should change your mind. ;) Also a N/A hi-comp D will wax fully bolted b16s all day. I am not telling you what I "heard" LOL. :)

[dowhatido]

i hear ya dude, i have d16z. ya shit my d16 was bad ass, just not enough tourge for me, but it was amazing to me to seee wha that little motor would do

[sebastianHoff]

sell it

i second the motion.

[Cool Cat GTR]

i second the motion.

I was trying to be nice suggesting the s/c. The kit sells for between $2,000.00 to $2,500.00 and if the owner can't do the work, he doesn't need to be trying to improve his car because it's an easy install. In reality, I would agree to sell the car and buy something else with more potential. I really never have understood a lot of Honda owners. I sincerely mean no offense but why mod a car that's going to be slow no matter what you do unless you spend a load of money and destroy it's reliability.

[dowhatido]

i'm def a honda lover, like a lot of others, but what would you suggest if not a honda, and please dont say a FORD!

[Dirty Octopus™]

Get a Pontiac with Stage 4 Naws!!!

[dowhatido]

WHAT THE GTO?

[rolling_trip]

WHAT THE GTO?

no a sunfire! i hear they are really fast

[CSquared]

Hook up a tow chain to the rear bumper on one of the new vettes... instant second off the 1/4... at least.

[japan4racing]

leave it alone and save for a turbo kit. i have a eg hatch with a gsr swap, 120k miles and a bolt on turbo kit. i went 12.9@117 on falken ziex 512's and full interior running 93 octane on uberdata. turbonetics > jackson

[japan4racing]

I was trying to be nice suggesting the s/c. The kit sells for between $2,000.00 to $2,500.00 and if the owner can't do the work, he doesn't need to be trying to improve his car because it's an easy install. In reality, I would agree to sell the car and buy something else with more potential. I really never have understood a lot of Honda owners. I sincerely mean no offense but why mod a car that's going to be slow no matter what you do unless you spend a load of money and destroy it's reliability.

if you do it right you dont destroy the reliability any more than any other modded car. i still get 30mpg, i still have a/c, heat, nice interior, rides good for a lowered car, runs 12's and nothing major has happened to it yet. ive been driving it for a while now and have put nearly 10,000 miles....10,000 hard miles on it. its amazing what happens when you buy good quality parts and take your time and research to get shit done

[Cool Cat GTR]

if you do it right you dont destroy the reliability any more than any other modded car. i still get 30mpg, i still have a/c, heat, nice interior, rides good for a lowered car, runs 12's and nothing major has happened to it yet. ive been driving it for a while now and have put nearly 10,000 miles....10,000 hard miles on it. its amazing what happens when you buy good quality parts and take your time and research to get shit done

I know this guy and he speaks the truth. He and some of his associates get the most out of Hondas. And on reasonable budgets too.

[dowhatido]

leave it alone and save for a turbo kit. i have a eg hatch with a gsr swap, 120k miles and a bolt on turbo kit. i went 12.9@117 on falken ziex 512's and full interior running 93 octane on uberdata. turbonetics > jackson- ya see i'm with you on this my buddys wife has turbo'd a b16a, w/other mod's and she can tune it up to right under 500hp (dont know if that is whp but still) and she drives around daily at 300+, if you do it right it's deff the way to go. all the people that talk down on hondas and say there is no potential------with all do respect are out of their fukn mind. i've seen it and will have it.so i agree that the turbo's b18 is the way to go

[dowhatido]

and jackson s/c in my opinion jackson are a piece of sheot!!!!

[BABY J]

and jackson s/c in my opinion jackson are a piece of sheot!!!!

I wouldn't go that far. It depends on where you want to make the power. There are 12 sec SC'd B series' out there.

[dowhatido]

ya but why have a belt driven induction on a 4cyl, have you ever drove with your a/c on, and thats realy not the big deal. s/c are w.o.t i dont think you would want that either, but jackson just sucks------vortec is alot better-------and yes there are bad ass s/c 4cyls out there, just look at the vortec crx thats a bad mutha_____

[Cool Cat GTR]

Hey, it's all good. The guy was talking about limited funds so I threw out a suggestion that IMO is reasonably priced. It also depends on where you want the power. A JR s/c gives you power all the way through the revs unlike a centrifugal s/c where you gain power as the rpms increase. If all you want is to go straight, then yeah, go turbo or centrifugal but JR works very well for course racing. We've installed JR and Vortec and they both work very well within their respective applications. Can you buy a Vortec system for the same price as JR?

[{X}Echo419]

94 honda civic w/gsr swap: headers, intake, exhaust (i have straight piped into a greddy ev2 muffler; which i think is faster w/no muffler?), clutch- 6puc, fpregulator, struts/springs, oh and the flywheel is shaved.

now i know every1 wants to say turbo, trust me thats what the goal is but for right now. what can i do?

Uberdata! call mainstream and they'll give you Scotty's # he did my ECU and it is definatelly worth it! :2cents:

[dowhatido]

ya i have hear nother but good things about uberdata, but dont know anything about this. is this something where they just chip ur ecu, or is this like a modulator?

[Whatthatslame]

I agree with Japan4racing just save up for a turbo kit thats what im doing.

And If you do it right and dont take the cheap way out and know the limits on your setup then you will be able to maintain reliability.
And I wouldnt go with a S/C just because everyone that i have ever know with one was not as happy with it as a fast spooling turbo.


ya i have hear nother but good things about uberdata, but dont know anything about this. is this something where they just chip ur ecu, or is this like a modulator?

I believe its just a chip.
But im still a noob to Uberdata...

[Ludester]

if your short on cash I say just chip the ecu with uberdata Or crome; and get a little tuning. Then you can always add your turbo in the future if you like.

[Bruce Leroy]

IN MY OPINION, NEVER SUPERCHARGE A 4CYL, BUT I'M UP TO REASON ON WHY IT'S GOOD TO DO SO-------THIS WILL SOUND STUPIT! I GUY I KNOW HAS D17 S/C, WHICH I KNO IT'S SOHC, BUT STILL TO SPEND $4500 ON PARTS AND LABOR I'LL WAX HIS ASS

got pics of thee the d17 supercharged? It must be custom because there is no super charger made for our cars.

[eViLMunkey]

BOOST...

[Dirty Octopus™]

This is probably a repost but get... stage 4 NAWS!

[dowhatido]

got pics of thee the d17 supercharged? It must be custom because there is no super charger made for our cars.-it might be a d16 i just thought that because of the year, but it may be d16 and not d17, dont know why that would make a diference between the two, but i dont know shit about s/c just that i dont like them.

[Hondatwin23]

cams , nos, ecu upgrade and race gas.

[efman]

type r head ftw !

[dowhatido]

is the type r head good for turbo. is't the compression a ltl higher. is it cheaper/better to just do head work the c1 head, how much does a c5 head cost, whats realy the difference. it's just decked a ltl more?????? all of these are guestion

[scttydb411]

ya i have hear nother but good things about uberdata, but dont know anything about this. is this something where they just chip ur ecu, or is this like a modulator?

i socket the ecu to accept a chip that i tune for your car/setup. good things. feel free to pm me w/ any questions you have.