NEW VW GTI vs. Civic SI vs. MINI S (you choose)

[4dmin]

Thats right Road & Track did the comparison and the german boys are on top :goodjob:

1st - GTI
2nd - SI
3rd - S

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=31&article_id=3370&print_page=y

[FDslider]

I choose the GTI as well. Although, the Mini Cooper S is an outstanding car for the streets. For a FWD car, it really handles well and surprised me with its capabilities.

[1439/2000]

^^^thanks for copying my avatar quote. I had to change it again.

I would drive a 75 gti with a cage and coilovers.They always busted my ass in autocross. Thats about it. maybe a g60 corrado. maybe.

Don't really like any of the choices though.

[Decker1.8t]

wooooo ... v-dub bitches

[HyPer50]

I dont know why, but I've loved the Mini's since they came out... The VW would be my 2nd choice.

[4dmin]

YOU GOT AN F. :lmfao: for my VW brothas \/

[Brady]

YOU GOT AN F. :lmfao: for my VW brothas \/
VW is currently using Mini's marketing company...i just learned this from the BMW magazine we get at work. Awesome.

[Darling Nikki]

Hehe...my car is pretty much all Mercedes-Benz but its a Dodge still.

[Ran]

Out the three, I'd take the Mini S. Too bad they're so overpriced. :(

[thinkfast®]

hmm

[{X}Echo419]

never really like VW, but the new 1 is hott and I like the commercials!

[The Golden Child]

GTI FTW !!!

[ironchef]

Test drove a new gti, i really liked it. Havent gotten the chance to try an si or a mini yet.

[HeLLo iM iZzY]

GERMAN ENGINEERING IN THE HOUSEE....lmao.

[IndianStig]

Civic Si for Chassis, engine can be improved, most potential, i chose that.


But as my only car a 6spd GTi would be my pick.

Mini, I love them so much, but im a pretty big guy.

[civic95]

Both cars are barely quicker than the normally aspirated Civic Si (6.6 sec., 15.0 sec.)


Our navigation-equipped test car represents the screaming deal of the three, coming in at $22,490, thousands less than the more option-laden Volks-wagen and Mini.


In the company of the Mini and GTI, it's nearly as good just about everywhere, proving to be the most versatile handler of the test, but also the one hampered by its engine's narrow powerband. More torque might have put it over the top.

I would choose the civic. I can take the $8K price difference, and make it boosted like the other 2, and it would be faster. Then with the leftover cash I can pay for the first 5 yrs of gas.

[Dragonfly5338]

I would so buy a mini, just so I could paint it clown colors and put a cool tooting horn on it.

[HyPer50]

I would so buy a mini, just so I could paint it clown colors and put a cool tooting horn on it.

I'm startin' to think you got a clown fetish... Kinda like the opposite of Ren. lmao.

[Julio]

gti

[PhAtBoYMr2]

mr2 turbo

[4dmin]

I would choose the civic. I can take the $8K price difference, and make it boosted like the other 2, and it would be faster. Then with the leftover cash I can pay for the first 5 yrs of gas.

i don't know which one they tested but i went to a dealer starting at 22k for the new gti w/ a 5spd... they had one fully loaded for 24k and it's already boosted

[Kevykev]

Toyota Corolla!

[fight club]

the fully loaded gti with everything possible from dealship, not counting roof racks or shit like that, is 26k. not bad for a 2.0l turbo 6 speed. it was one of the nicer cars ive driven. plu, u cant touch a reported 37 mpg highway for a turbo car.

[efman]

svt focus owns you !!!!!!!!!!!! lol
i would pick the gti out of that group, who can beat a german turbo car !

[D16Civic]

I would like the GTI over the others right up to the point when i had/wanted to work on it, at which point, I would be switching over to the Honda cuz the last time i had to work on a German car, it sucked ass.

[civic95]

u cant touch a reported 37 mpg highway for a turbo car.

Its reported as 32 HWY, and with a 6 speed thats not that hard to achieve. 65 MPH probably will be around 1800 RPMs in 6th.

[Allstar3.8T]

GTI w/o a moments thought. Its 200 hp, but a $599 chip makes it a monster that the new civic will never be able to tame.

http://www.goapr.com/VW/products/ecu_upgrade_mkvgti.html


2006 GTI 2.0T
91 octane 93 octane
246hp/282lb-ft 252hp/303lb-ft

[Brett]

Id take that new GTI over any of the other 2 for sure.

[ironchef]

GTI w/o a moments thought. Its 200 hp, but a $599 chip makes it a monster that the new civic will never be able to tame.

http://www.goapr.com/VW/products/ecu_upgrade_mkvgti.html


2006 GTI 2.0T
91 octane 93 octane
246hp/282lb-ft 252hp/303lb-ftWhat kind of performance numbers does it do with the chip, i.e. 0-60 1/4 mile etc etc. While I was test driving one and the sales guy was talking about it, he mentioned it weighs about 3300lbs or so, and thats a porker for that size imo.

[Decker1.8t]

yeah. we drive tanks.

[4dmin]

What kind of performance numbers does it do with the chip, i.e. 0-60 1/4 mile etc etc. While I was test driving one and the sales guy was talking about it, he mentioned it weighs about 3300lbs or so, and thats a porker for that size imo.

1/4 w/ a chipped 2.0t would put you low 13 or high 12 depending on driver.... all german cars are known for weight alot of sound deadoning, heavy carpets, etc... i know taking out my rear seats and spare saved me 200lbs :goodjob:

also on the GTI you can get automatic w/ paddle shifting :goodjob: (quicker than the manual)

[ironchef]

If I got one, i'd like to keep my interior intact lolol. Might still look at one though if this is the case, does giac have a chip for the 2.0t?

[4dmin]

If I got one, i'd like to keep my interior intact lolol. Might still look at one though if this is the case, does giac have a chip for the 2.0t?

yes sir and GIAC is always known for being stronger and more aggressive chip so i wouldn't be surprised to see over 300lbs easy :goodjob:

Let me know if you do i'll get you in touch w/ brian at EPG

[AE86 Dorifto]

I'd go with the People's Car. Civics suck (no offense).

[BluesClues]

I like the GTI because of the side and front impact security. It's a safer car for these non driving ass mofos

[40th GT]

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[R_Rated]

I choose the GTI as well. Although, the Mini Cooper S is an outstanding car for the streets. For a FWD car, it really handles well and surprised me with its capabilities.

It drives EXACTLY how it should. Like a fwd bimmer.

[Killer]

VW, i really like the new body style of these, also i've heard plenty about it's capabilities with that chip...

[R_Rated]

1/4 w/ a chipped 2.0t would put you low 13 or high 12 depending on driver.... all german cars are known for weight alot of sound deadoning, heavy carpets, etc... i know taking out my rear seats and spare saved me 200lbs :goodjob:

also on the GTI you can get automatic w/ paddle shifting :goodjob: (quicker than the manual)

:no: ...that is a bit over-optimistic..... 3 pedals is always faster than 2 in real life... and a chipped 2.0T will get you mid 14's unless you are talking bout gutting the whole car.

[Kyle]

Definately GTI. I'm kinda biased though.

[Kyle]

In refrence to Boosteds60rs post the automatic is actually faster than the manual on the GTI. It has two clutches on the DSG transmission and shifts quicker. It really is quicker on GTI's.

[careyk]

I've test drove all these cars.. The GTI isn't that impressive, Its kinds sluggish and the handling is the best.. the mini S Is a pretty quick little car, and it handles like crazy, and the SI is powered by VTEC! it's quick, and it handles quite well.
the mini is too small for my tastes, the GTI has that dumb german feel to it, and the SI has the cozy homey feel to it. And its roomy as well. So i voted for the SI

[4dmin]

:no: ...that is a bit over-optimistic..... 3 pedals is always faster than 2 in real life... and a chipped 2.0T will get you mid 14's unless you are talking bout gutting the whole car.

umm if 250whp/300lbs can't get you in 13's you can't drive worth a shit :goodjob: or the car better weigh 5000lbs

[careyk]

umm if 250whp/300lbs can't get you in 13's you can't drive worth a shit :goodjob: or the car better weigh 5000lbs

:lmfao: How true...

[ShooterMcGavin]

gti, although i do like the styling of the new si.

[koukis14]

I dont know about the mini but I know for a fact that all and I mean ALL VWs made after 1996 are fucking junk. They may be nice but the check engine light comes on every 5 miles. I choose Civic, even though its against every thing I believe in.

[wes_297]

i would take the gti. i think the new si is ugly, should have been a hatch. and the mini is too small for me

[man]

I changed my mind. Mini S for me...

Especially the new one that's coming out. MMMMmmmmm Turbo...

[admedlin]

I say GTi. I've driven the Si before and liked it, but the gti just had a different feel. I haven't driven a mini, so that could change my opinion.

[gforce23]

Holy thread resurrection man!! :eek: WTF were you searching for bro? :D

Since you've brought it back from the dead, my vote goes for the MINI, especially in JCW form.. mmm... the Si and GTi are nice cars but don't really match up when the going gets twisty..

[Brown Man]

GTI FTW!!!!!

[EJCallaway]

id have to go with the civic only because i drive a civic. even though everyone has a civic they still have alot of potential and you can build the hell out of them

[Alan®]

I drove all three of these the other day and I chose the GTI. The mini has entirely too much going on inside. What the hell is the car industry coming too when you have to pull the door handle twice everytime you want to get out of it. The honda IMO wasn't that spectacular after driving the other 2

[1SICKLEX]

Why are people bumping his old polls?

[WTF?]

1. GTI
2. Mini
3. SI

[OnURleft]

The Mini is the better drivers platform, but the damn things are to high on the goofyness factor, slightly over priced and a little old when it comes to styling.

As a Vw and BMW owner, i'd go Gti (still the king of hatches), at a great price, Coop S, then Si.

[r34_gtr]

a friend of mine took me for a ride in his parents' new civic (none of his cars had gas) and it handled really well but im for the vdubb all the way and i cant wait until the newest one comes out

[arriaza7170]

I didnt drive a new GTI til after i bought my Si and if i could go back i'd get the GTI if it were the same price.

[BABY J]

I'd buy a used car for 3k and laugh at all of you for making payments.

[Z Max]

woo GTI

[MissCourtney]

GTI FTW!

[DoriDori]

I'll take a MiniS. Always wanted one!

[40th GT]

edit: nvm.

[iBeboostin]

Gotta go with the GTI, it outperforms and looks better.

[Futuristic6]

I love my si. do i wish for more torque? sure. but its still a fun car, and pretty quick for a NA 4banger.

[bus-a-vtec]

si fuck a jokeswagon, no offense but i use to shit on jetta's and gti's back in d day with my single cam ZC and the only vw that could seen my ef was vr6's so imagine wat a si could do...

[81911SC]

3 year old thread. Cars have probably changed a bit by now.

[Demsum]

They haven't changed much. Mini went from a supercharger to a turbo on the S model, and the GTI's interior and exterior got a facelift.

[JdM_EJ2]

i took on a gti with a stock 09 Si...mad props to them tho

[jmotley]

im a honda guy, and i own an 8thgen civic, but the new vdubs just look damn amazing. and having boost from the factory is always a plus.

[allout13]

I had a friend who bought one of the new gti's...

...it overheated on the way home from the dealership, and that was the first of many issues he had with the car.

VW is shit. Honda ftw!