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Ganjatrooper
04-12-2005, 04:45 PM
me and my buddy where goin down I-5 in his 98 Neon with 05 rt4 motor swap and custom turbo set up and a 05 mustang rolled along side.... we roll at around 60 and blast off in 3rd gear mustang paced tell around 85-90 by time we hit 100 he was atleast 10 cars behind.... was pretty fun

Cliff
04-12-2005, 04:56 PM
what is an rt4?

accordsti
04-12-2005, 04:57 PM
nice kill, but 300hp under $25000, mustang is still hot, but not as nice as anything with a turbocharged gasoline 4 cyl with 100+ hp per litre

JITB
04-12-2005, 05:43 PM
me and my buddy where goin down I-5 in his 98 Neon with 05 rt4 motor swap and custom turbo set up and a 05 mustang rolled along side.... we roll at around 60 and blast off in 3rd gear mustang paced tell around 85-90 by time we hit 100 he was atleast 10 cars behind.... was pretty fun


nice what did it take for the swap? motor tranny - axles - ecu . any major fabrication? Post some pics a friend of mine just bought a 97 coupe, and wanted to see about the same swap.

lemansz
04-12-2005, 07:07 PM
me and my buddy where goin down I-5 in his 98 Neon with 05 rt4 motor swap and custom turbo set up and a 05 mustang rolled along side.... we roll at around 60 and blast off in 3rd gear mustang paced tell around 85-90 by time we hit 100 he was atleast 10 cars behind.... was pretty fun

that was a mustang v6


LOL

Ganjatrooper
04-12-2005, 10:43 PM
oh my bad SRT-4...better? but as for what it took for the swap im not really sure but it was around 2500 paid out to finish not including motor so it was pretty spendy but definetly a fun ride very quick. and correct me if im wrong but the GT is not a v6...

Ganjatrooper
04-13-2005, 04:34 PM
not the best pic but a nice shot of intercooler

quickdodgeŽ
04-13-2005, 04:43 PM
that was a mustang v6


Nope. How much money was the 05 engine? Later, QD.

JITB
04-13-2005, 04:45 PM
i wanna see some engine shots...

quickdodgeŽ
04-13-2005, 04:49 PM
I'm fixin to find out the scoop on this car. Joeseph, when you riding this way. Later, QD.

JITB
04-13-2005, 04:51 PM
maybe the weekend..ime and rej can cruise by..

quickdodgeŽ
04-13-2005, 05:00 PM
Aight den. Later, QD.

speedminded
04-13-2005, 06:13 PM
is the older neon lighter than the srt-4's?

Julio
04-13-2005, 07:43 PM
engine bay pics please?

quickdodgeŽ
04-13-2005, 08:15 PM
is the older neon lighter than the srt-4's?

First gens are about 500 pounds lighter. Later, QD.

quickdodgeŽ
04-13-2005, 08:18 PM
The engine is just a 2.4L turboed. It isn't an 05 SRT4 engine. IF it was, this guy would be a total fucking idiot to have spent that money on the same thing you can buy through parts. Later, QD.

JITB
04-13-2005, 08:36 PM
Aight than , in that case it looks exactly like the DOHC motor, just boosted...:( The 2.4 looks identical to the 2.0, the only thing different is the block its alot bigger. so noone can really tell unless they knew. What kidn of manifold is he using?

speedminded
04-13-2005, 08:41 PM
First gens are about 500 pounds lighter. Later, QD.wow, with the srt4 running mid 14's stock the 1st gen turbo should be pretty impressive...if he can get traction.

quickdodgeŽ
04-13-2005, 08:43 PM
^^^ It is very impressive.

I don't know that one, JITB. Later, QD.

Ganjatrooper
04-13-2005, 09:27 PM
thats the only pic i got of it right now when i get more ill post um up.... he got the motor off ebay for 3200 so it was around 5500 when all was said and done for the swap

Nismo
04-13-2005, 09:52 PM
im sorry but that is one ugly looking car. Granted its proably fast but i would take the gt over it any day, because its just a nicer looking car. For each their own i guess. Some neons are really nice when they are done right

Sport1.3
04-13-2005, 09:58 PM
nice! sounds like it would be hella hard to get that kinda power to the ground. hope hes running a LSD (if QD is right and its only a boosted 2.4). whats it run as far as an FMU? turbo?

NEONRACER
04-13-2005, 10:10 PM
Until you can bring this car to my garage and let me look at it I am going to say BS on it having an 05 SRT-4 swap. What tranny is he using? If he using the SRT tranny how much of the frame did he notch to make it fit and who built the custom axles he would need? What standalone system is he using to run this motor? If he is not running a standalone system how did he go about wiring the SRT electronics up? If he bought to motor off ebay then I am guessing he did not get the body harness which he needs to splice into the 1st gen harness. I am guessing at the most he has a turbo 2.4 swap with an srt valve cover. If you want me to put holes in your story anymore I would be glad to. If you want me to tell you how to put the engine in your car I would be glad to. I can ask over a dozen more questions that could prove this is not an SRT swapped 1st gen.

If you have any questions on the 1st gen neon go ahead and ask, I do have the answer. PM and we will set up a time to validate your claim of an 05 swapped 1st gen, I am sure you won't do that though.

quickdodgeŽ
04-13-2005, 10:12 PM
^^^ That's exactly what I was saying. He probably(nah, I'm sure it IS) a 2.4 swap at best. Later, QD.

JITB
04-13-2005, 10:18 PM
I hope not, i would rather it be a nice 05 srt4 swap...either way, its a nice setup.

Ganjatrooper
04-13-2005, 10:38 PM
first off i dont give a fuck what you have to say. im not here to argue i was just posting how it was. if you want to talk shit have at it i know what the car got but i dont know how it came to be i honestly could care less its a Neon but i know one thing it has a SRT-4 05 swap i know it cost a shit more then I would of paid and i know its a fast fuckin car so if you wanna continue to bash what i say go head have a blast

JITB
04-13-2005, 10:56 PM
i just want to see a engine shot..get the owner of the car on here..so he can tell us about it.

NEONRACER
04-14-2005, 08:37 AM
What I want is proof of this car being a SRT swapped 1st gen. Tell the owner to come on here and answer questions then. The problem I have is people lying and talking shit. The whole 05 motor is the first thing to raise doubt. Where did the 05 motor come from, kinda funny to have a brand new motor so soon. Show me an engine shot. I wonder if this is JLM's old car that was for sale on ebay?? hmm if it is it's an 03 swap that Jason and NEMO built.

Dragonfly5338
04-14-2005, 01:19 PM
wow, with the srt4 running mid 14's stock the 1st gen turbo should be pretty impressive...if he can get traction.

my buddy pulls CONSISTANT 14.0 - 14.1 on his srt4 bone stock. that would be a VERY impressive 1st gen - if he can get traction, LOL. :)

Ganjatrooper
04-14-2005, 09:28 PM
Xtreme Auto Salon Seattle washington 2600 cash for to install swap rewire everything nothing needed to be notched or cut away no power steering or AC for more clearance. I was wrong its not an 05 its an 04. its not anyones car off ebay he bought it new in 98 and did everything himself beside motor swap. should clear up some for ya

flysi00
04-14-2005, 10:05 PM
i think its b/s

SkrrEuroSportGLI
04-15-2005, 01:12 AM
Well I have a friend that got a 13.8 out of a bone stock 04 SRT...but If it is true nice work

NEONRACER
04-15-2005, 08:28 AM
Where is the guy from, Seattle? Let me put it to you like this, if he is using the SRT tranny than he would have to notch the frame because the tranny is to big to fit in the engine bay. There are not axles that work with the 850 in a 1st gen, they need to be made. What you said cleared nothing up show me a pic of the engine bay and not just a close up but a couple of them.

Ninjaboi
04-25-2005, 02:53 PM
Where is the guy from, Seattle? Let me put it to you like this, if he is using the SRT tranny than he would have to notch the frame because the tranny is to big to fit in the engine bay. There are not axles that work with the 850 in a 1st gen, they need to be made. What you said cleared nothing up show me a pic of the engine bay and not just a close up but a couple of them.



His buddy got owned i hope he didnt pay 3200 for an "srt" swap. First off you could build a hellified 2.4 for that much its prolly an 2.4 with srt shit on it,(internals, turbo etc.) Your buddy isnt smart i would(well i am) have built a 2.4 and turbo it with a better turbo than a 14g. Get over it your buddy got served and neonracer just served you :bigok: (i love that movie)

Ganjatrooper
04-25-2005, 03:39 PM
i dont care what he paid or how much he should of paid or what he should of done... according to most people its bullshit....anyway still a fast fuckin car

mogallo
04-25-2005, 08:48 PM
me and my buddy where goin down I-5 in his 98 Neon with 05 rt4 motor swap and custom turbo set up and a 05 mustang rolled along side.... we roll at around 60 and blast off in 3rd gear mustang paced tell around 85-90 by time we hit 100 he was atleast 10 cars behind.... was pretty fun


At least 10 cars huh?? That neon must have a 60-100 time of 1.5 seconds!!!!


LMAO!!!!!

Did it ever occur to you that the stang just let off the gas??? Or better yet... hit the brakes??

Tracer
04-25-2005, 09:46 PM
LOL.....10 car lengths ???......I don't really believe that. Maybe if the Neon had a Supra engine in it.....lol

TRAY_STi
04-26-2005, 01:26 AM
1st gen neons are no joke built up. I have a buddy, "Mike SRT-4" on the board. In his 1st gen(145hp) spank our buddies S2000. I dunno about 10 car lengths and all that on a mustang. But the weight of the 1st gen, major motor work, turbo It should be really fast.

MikeSRT4
04-26-2005, 07:38 AM
is this car local??? maybe it has a SRT head and turbo?

I once read about a 1st gen with an SRT motor that was a "mule" for "D.C.". I don't think it made it onto the street; ie no VIN and sent to the crusher.

NEONRACER
04-26-2005, 08:51 AM
I just love the pictures of this car. It looks like the fastest car on the planet. Where are the pics? Better yet bring the car to me and let me see. I owuld say at best he a 2.4l with an SRT turbo set-up or even a 2.0 DOHC with an SRT set-up. I doubt he would be using a SRT head, I don't think he would be smart enough to figure out how to make it owrk on an older block. The blue car is actually street legal but the Mohler's car and Len's old car were not. I will say this beating a mustang by 10 car lengths isn't the most uncommon thing but what I don't understand is how all of a sudden the car just pulled away sounds like the driver got tired of racing and let off the gas. The SRT doesn't magically make an extra 100 hp to allow it to walk away at 100 mph.

AznTraitor
04-26-2005, 09:02 AM
I just love the pictures of this car. It looks like the fastest car on the planet. Where are the pics? Better yet bring the car to me and let me see. I owuld say at best he a 2.4l with an SRT turbo set-up or even a 2.0 DOHC with an SRT set-up. I doubt he would be using a SRT head, I don't think he would be smart enough to figure out how to make it owrk on an older block. The blue car is actually street legal but the Mohler's car and Len's old car were not. I will say this beating a mustang by 10 car lengths isn't the most uncommon thing but what I don't understand is how all of a sudden the car just pulled away sounds like the driver got tired of racing and let off the gas. The SRT doesn't magically make an extra 100 hp to allow it to walk away at 100 mph.


now now, ganja said this car is FAAAASSSSTTTT

HiPSI
04-26-2005, 10:25 AM
and everything coming from someone who calls themselves "ganja" is going to be full of merit i'm sure.

quickdodgeŽ
04-26-2005, 02:41 PM
^^ Werd to bird, homie. Later, QD.

JITB
04-26-2005, 07:35 PM
*officially disappointed*