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4dmin
12-28-2005, 08:31 AM
your thoughts on Black History Month... (poll coming) please feel free to add your own comments.

me personally i don't see why race should decide a time to celebrate your history... black history is white history, white history is black history... to me is stupid to seperate your self from the world.

Nemesis
12-28-2005, 08:38 AM
I demand a recognized Asian history month!!! lol


I honestly dont have a problem with it at all, and I might be stoned for this comment, but why is there no designated white history month (Im half white lol) or something like that. I see channels like BET and there is no WET or AET (White/Asian). If there was , the creators of the channel would be regarded as being discriminatory or racist for having their own channel? Maybe someone can give me some more insight on this subject, because Ive always just wondered that.

1439/2000
12-28-2005, 08:42 AM
It's racist.

I know the arguments both ways, I juat think when you seperate the races either way, to hate or to celebrate JUST ONE RACE, it doesn't help race relations.

Kevykev
12-28-2005, 08:45 AM
It's more involved than a simple good or bad!

This country has such a dark history that teaching it inevitable will bring up strong feelings of Proudness and Dismay depending on what aspect is discussed.

Having one singled-out month might not be the best idea. I think it should be blended with American History and taught equally throughout the year.

2mchbooty
12-28-2005, 08:46 AM
I demand a recognized Asian history month!!! lol


I honestly dont have a problem with it at all, and I might be stoned for this comment, but why is there no designated white history month (Im half white lol) or something like that. I see channels like BET and there is no WET or AET (White/Asian). If there was , the creators of the channel would be regarded as being discriminatory or racist for having their own channel? Maybe someone can give me some more insight on this subject, because Ive always just wondered that.
I agree 100%, my thoughts exactly!

Kevykev
12-28-2005, 08:53 AM
If there was , the creators of the channel would be regarded as being discriminatory or racist for having their own channel? Maybe someone can give me some more insight on this subject, because Ive always just wondered that.

To put it into simple terms

In this society, in order to be granted "Immunity" you need to go through something bad in order to have your own channel.

Ie: BET and Indian Reservations.

History plays a Great role in the present day. They last time a bunch of "white" people got together and had their own thing that involved "whites only", let's just say it wasn't fair.

It's kinda like Little Johnny that got molested in school, he get to play in the gym for an extra hour on fridays. Can you play for an extra hour like him? Hell no because nothing happend to you. :D

Tell me if any of you will come across 10 people of arabic decent on the same flight?

A.P. Photography
12-28-2005, 08:54 AM
Having one singled-out month might not be the best idea. I think it should be blended with American History and taught equally throughout the year.
I agree, I think history should be taught as history and not well this is black history and then you have everything else.

trini_gsr
12-28-2005, 12:47 PM
i feel yall that black history should be totally integrated into american history or what have you, and should be taught like that. this is the ideal situation...

but the reality is that it's not. how much black history have YOU learned in high school? most of yall probably don't even know who marcus garvey is, know about any of the great black inventors, or even read any books by good black authors. i know when i was in HS i wasn't taught any of this stuff...besides prolly about MLK and Malcolm X.

And that's just the tip of the iceberg. the ugly truth is that slavery totally robbed black ppl in this country of their sense of worth and pride compared to everyone else. black folks' accomplishments were simply ignored, credited to their white masters, or otherwise written out of history for hundreds of years. remember...slaves weren't really ppl so there's no way they could be smart! and everyone back then felt like this...from scientists to doctors to christian pastors to the authors/historians who wrote all this stuff down...to sadly, even black ppl themselves eventually. that has serious psychological repercussions (thats for a different discussion tho)...

black history month is really just about giving black (and white) folks a chance to feel proud about who they are, what they've done, and where they came from...there was no other avenue to learn about black history when it started, and even today there still really isn't.

it was just 45 years ago that they started letting black ppl vote and share bathrooms with white ppl here...i think a LOT less ppl are racist now than then, but we still got a ways to go. when you start to hear about w.e.b. dubois like you hear about say...mark twain...then black history month wont be necessary...

PearlDc4
12-28-2005, 11:27 PM
lest see where to star? lol, slaves fought to be equal ya know, but it seems like blacks always wanna be seperated or they think they should be given more! they wanna be called african american. i meen wth most of them have no relation to africa. if they wanna put africa in front of their country(america)then hell they can leave right now. you dont see white people walking around saying no im european american. ya know its sad because now white ppl will say they arent white and say theyre italian or something like that so they will fit in.

tell me what yall think.....

Dr.G35
12-29-2005, 12:46 AM
i feel yall that black history should be totally integrated into american history or what have you, and should be taught like that. this is the ideal situation...

but the reality is that it's not. how much black history have YOU learned in high school? most of yall probably don't even know who marcus garvey is, know about any of the great black inventors, or even read any books by good black authors. i know when i was in HS i wasn't taught any of this stuff...besides prolly about MLK and Malcolm X.

And that's just the tip of the iceberg. the ugly truth is that slavery totally robbed black ppl in this country of their sense of worth and pride compared to everyone else. black folks' accomplishments were simply ignored, credited to their white masters, or otherwise written out of history for hundreds of years. remember...slaves weren't really ppl so there's no way they could be smart! and everyone back then felt like this...from scientists to doctors to christian pastors to the authors/historians who wrote all this stuff down...to sadly, even black ppl themselves eventually. that has serious psychological repercussions (thats for a different discussion tho)...

black history month is really just about giving black (and white) folks a chance to feel proud about who they are, what they've done, and where they came from...there was no other avenue to learn about black history when it started, and even today there still really isn't.

it was just 45 years ago that they started letting black ppl vote and share bathrooms with white ppl here...i think a LOT less ppl are racist now than then, but we still got a ways to go. when you start to hear about w.e.b. dubois like you hear about say...mark twain...then black history month wont be necessary...



but it wasn't only black people who have gone through slavery. irish people were the first ones i believe to go through a horrible slavery, and they do not have an irish month? i definately agree with you, that black history should be integrated into our (america) history including mexican and irish history because there is not enough of it. now, people are tryin to get history classes to only tesch the past 50 years of history which in my opinion is the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard. they will miss out on huge events that happened to make what our country is today, like pearl harbor, christopher columbus and his expeditions, when the first pilgrims came from europe to here to settle. it is going to be interesting to see whats going to happen in the school systems in the next few years.

trini_gsr
12-29-2005, 09:40 AM
but it wasn't only black people who have gone through slavery. irish people were the first ones i believe to go through a horrible slavery, and they do not have an irish month? i definately agree with you, that black history should be integrated into our (america) history including mexican and irish history because there is not enough of it. now, people are tryin to get history classes to only tesch the past 50 years of history which in my opinion is the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard. they will miss out on huge events that happened to make what our country is today, like pearl harbor, christopher columbus and his expeditions, when the first pilgrims came from europe to here to settle. it is going to be interesting to see whats going to happen in the school systems in the next few years.

well i dunno about the irish slavery thing...so i can't speak on it. i do know that irish ppl got treated pretty badly here in the US when they first came over as immigrants...they were definitely 2nd class citizens...but at least they had basic human rights.

it wasn't the same as with blacks tho. black ppl were forcefully taken from their homes in africa, separated from their families, packed like sardines, naked and chained on slave ships, and lost their entire IDENTITIES when they became slaves. they were given new names, and forbidden to keep their customs, religions, and language. not to mention the raping and the crazy physical abuse. This was going on in the New World for over 400 years before the Civil War ended it in the late 1800s.

as to what watwah said...he's kinda right. but remember...Irish, Italians, Jewish, etc...for the most part, they can look through their family history and trace themsevles backwards to their home country. to say...oh such and such was the first from our family x-amount of years ago to come to this country. Probably even still speak their native language or have some kinda contact with their relatives still living there.

but black ppl here don't have that option, because of the effects of slavery - the connection back to africa has been pretty much totally severed. the whole african-american thing is just black ppl trying to reclaim some of what what was taken from them, acknowledge where they came from. yall need to understand how far-reaching the effects of slavery really are.

and i'm with yall on the history thing...america has a lot of diverse cultures, and as much of them should be taught in schools as possible. that past 50 years thing is ridiculous...

chrisdavis
12-30-2005, 10:47 AM
lest see where to star? lol, slaves fought to be equal ya know, but it seems like blacks always wanna be seperated or they think they should be given more! they wanna be called african american. i meen wth most of them have no relation to africa. if they wanna put africa in front of their country(america)then hell they can leave right now. you dont see white people walking around saying no im european american. ya know its sad because now white ppl will say they arent white and say theyre italian or something like that so they will fit in.

tell me what yall think.....


I think you are somewhat misguided. Think about it like this white people have an official description "Caucasian". What official description did black people have, "black", "colored", the "N" word? Do they not deserve a dignified label, or description? Yes there are some black people who feel that everything should given to them. But there are many more that you will never hear about that get up everyday, go to work, pay their taxes and live peaceful, productive lives. You will never hear about those folks because they do not incite controversy.

atlgirl25
12-30-2005, 11:49 AM
I feel like this we all need to learn our history...black or white. It takes more than a month to learn anyone history. I use to think that black history month was a good thing but that is the only time you hear anything about what african americans did. Like my orig statement we all need to take time to learn our history

PSINXS
12-30-2005, 12:43 PM
i dont really agree with having our own month to recognize. it does make it seem pretty racist and wha tnot. on the other hand i do think it informs ppl a bout what some influential blacks did that they might otherwise not know aobut. i think it should just be fused moe into the school books than have a seperatemonth for it. and yes why not recognize asians, italians, or whites? if u do it for one all should get it. but i would rather not have it at all. and i went to a predominantly white school in HS and it wa awkward having that month.

and i dont like being called african american. iam not from Africa!! i was born in georgia. i am a Black man.

Brett
12-30-2005, 12:44 PM
I think Black History month to me is a crock of shit. I get sick of people trying to seperate races all the time. You dont see whites, asians, spainsh, etc people asking for "White History month or whatever History Month" or folks demanding a WET station, or any race for that matter asking for seperate channels, or months to focus on thier heritage, etc.... Until people see history as AMERICAN history, Racism and seperation will never go away.


Just like when someone says they are african American... WTF?? You are no more African then I am. You are AMERICAN!! Unless you were born in africa and then came here and became a US Citizen, guess what... You arent African american, you are american. People need to stop trying to seperate races with all this shit, Nah mean? Just my :2cents:

quickdodge®
12-30-2005, 12:52 PM
I don't let anything related to race get to me. If every month out of the year was celebrated as BHM, I wouldn't care. I don't understand why people let it get to them. Espeically if it doesn't have anything to do with you. Is BET hurting you? No. Then why complain because black folks have their own channel. Does BHM tear up your whole life for those 28-29 days? I highly doubt it. That is what's stupid. Wasting your time on complaining on shit that doesn't even pertain to you. Just let people do what they want. Why make your self miserable by complaining about what others do? Later, QD.

thinkfast®
12-30-2005, 01:01 PM
did somebody say immigrants? :D

I completely agree w/ QD, it makes no sense to complain about shit that doesn't concern you. WET? cmon folks, white people have all sorts of channels.. um, ABC, CBS, PBS, shows like "the great outdoors" and "Blue Collar comedy", Oxygen, Lifetime... you think minorities waste their time on shit like that?? LIRL... Latinos also have our own shows, SEVERAL channels with spanish-only broadcasting, and it's only getting bigger! Of course, we don't have our own history month, but then again I don't feel like if we did it would make me feel better for those 30-31 days..

I say deal with it, its not going away, and if it doesn't concern you then STFU

Brett
12-30-2005, 01:09 PM
did somebody say immigrants? :D

I completely agree w/ QD, it makes no sense to complain about shit that doesn't concern you. WET? cmon folks, white people have all sorts of channels.. um, ABC, CBS, PBS, shows like "the great outdoors" and "Blue Collar comedy", Oxygen, Lifetime... you think minorities waste their time on shit like that?? LIRL... Latinos also have our own shows, SEVERAL channels with spanish-only broadcasting, and it's only getting bigger! Of course, we don't have our own history month, but then again I don't feel like if we did it would make me feel better for those 30-31 days..

I say deal with it, its not going away, and if it doesn't concern you then STFU

Ricky, spainish channels are different because they cater to people who dont speak English. Now living in this country that is a whole other debate I could get into, because to me, I dont think America should cater to people who refuse to learn the language of the country the chose to live in, I know if I went to another country I would be expected to ;earn thier language and adapt and I wouldnt expect them to cater to me and change for me. Go to any walmart and you can see america is expected to change for them, But thats a WHOLE OTHER ISSUE...lol

I dont get upset about any History month or channel. I am just saying why seperate races by having them. We are all in this country and shouldnt make any one race or culuture stand out, this is why racsim and shit still goes on, when we all live togther this would will be a better place for you and me :D

quickdodge®
12-30-2005, 01:14 PM
this is why racsim and shit still goes on,

I disagree with that being a reason why racism exists still. Ignorant white, black, brown, whatever people are the reason. Now ignorant whites will use that(black only channels) as an excuse. But it is the stupidity talking....not common sense. Later, QD.

Brett
12-30-2005, 01:18 PM
Now ignorant whites will use that(black only channels) as an excuse Later, QD.

Why you gotta be a racist on whites? HA HA HA HA HA HA

Dizzle when I get home I am going to make your sig pic a 200x200 for me and use that as my avatar :D

quickdodge®
12-30-2005, 01:22 PM
Why wait? Lolol. That ok? Later, QD.

Brett
12-30-2005, 01:23 PM
Thats a bit large man!!! :lmfao:

quickdodge®
12-30-2005, 01:25 PM
There. It's 100x100. Lolol. Later, QD.

Brett
12-30-2005, 01:27 PM
Thats much better :lmfao:

PSINXS
12-30-2005, 02:22 PM
WET? that's a porn channel waiting to happen.

Julio
12-30-2005, 08:05 PM
I declare JUNE immigrants month.. fuck u all.

thinkfast®
12-30-2005, 08:08 PM
May JUNE be filled with happy memories, glorious tales and plenty of

RON HIJUEPUTA!!

Dr.G35
12-31-2005, 02:32 AM
I disagree with that being a reason why racism exists still. Ignorant white, black, brown, whatever people are the reason. Now ignorant whites will use that(black only channels) as an excuse. But it is the stupidity talking....not common sense. Later, QD.

i kinda disagree and kinda don't get it. i think as long as there are seperate awards for black people and separate shows, etc., then that in away is separating themselves away from the rest of us, right?

Dr.G35
12-31-2005, 02:32 AM
why can't we just have one awards and have all of tv focused on everyone?

ahmonrah
12-31-2005, 03:01 AM
i'm not even gonna comment on this topic (closing door on th way out)

quickdodge®
12-31-2005, 04:47 AM
i think as long as there are seperate awards for black people and separate shows, etc., then that in away is separating themselves away from the rest of us, right?

Yes. But, that is still no reason to harbor ill-will towards another race. It just seems like you are looking for ways to justify racism.

Again, why would BET or a black awards show hurt you? Same with whites. Why should black gets mad if white folks came out with their own awards show? Later, QD.

chrisdavis
12-31-2005, 07:55 AM
Yes. But, that is still no reason to harbor ill-will towards another race. It just seems like you are looking for ways to justify racism.

Again, why would BET or a black awards show hurt you? Same with whites. Why should black gets mad if white folks came out with their own awards show? Later, QD.


I personally dont care, however it is like that old joke.


One million black people get together to celebrate being black.It's called "A Million Man March"
One million white people gather to celebrate being white. It's called a klan rally.

4dmin
12-31-2005, 08:12 AM
I personally dont care, however it is like that old joke.


One million black people get together to celebrate being black.It's called "A Million Man March"
One million white people gather to celebrate being white. It's called a klan rally.

this joke is 100% true, BET is a crock of shit... if i started WET tomorrow the Jesse Jackson and followers would be having a sit in front of my house. why don't the Jews have JEWtv? you don't see them bitching and complaining about having a history month... hell millions of them were exterminated off the planet, but the blacks were inslaved... hmm what is worse??? i guess since blacks lived through their sufferage that they are entitled to something :rolleyes:

African American??? wtf is that... that is some fucked up shit, i would love to know how many blacks have even been to their so called mother land. what is amazing is there is black people across the globe, but you won't find blacks in europe saying they are African European :lmfao:

seperation feeds racism.

Kevykev
12-31-2005, 08:25 AM
One million black people get together to celebrate being black.It's called "A Million Man March"
One million white people gather to celebrate being white. It's called a klan rally.

You know why that is folks? I'll Tell you why it is looked at that way: it's because of history.

Rather than to get deep into it, i'll give you an anological example (these seem to work best) <Truth: it helps with relativity.

It's like your friends, you've got a bunch of friends that might make jokes about doing your mom. You know their just kinding though, these jokes are simply "harmless fun". BUT Say your friend Tom Really did your mom a while back under some special circumstances (both being drunk etc.)

It took you a while to get over it but forgiveness ensued. Now in actuality Mike, Robert, "J" all of them can make periodic jokes about your mom here and there but if Tom Dare to due some shit like that "IT's a whole different story." Tom can never due it again. Tom had lost his exclusive right to ever try that again.

Now I know this current generation has nothing to due with what happend in the past. What you must grasp in the fact that situations like that invoke unfavorable feelings in people and 9 times out of ten if you or someone you care about hasent gone through it you will most likely NEVER understand!

Simple Humanistic Characteristics transcend everything that is in place in today's society!

Of course Seperation Feeds Racism that's a simple fact.

Seperation does not support interaction, therefore; culture do not embrace each other.

quickdodge®
12-31-2005, 10:51 AM
I believe, and correct me if I am wrong, my fearless African-American counterpart, K-Double is basically saying that because of what the white dudes did to the black folks back in the day, black people see it it as inappropriate for whites to make jokes about slavery or black folks in general. That's also why it is deemed ok for blacks to call each other neers while it is very frowned upon for whites to do so.

I still stand by it......and no one has answered it yet......What has BET or other black-only enterprises done to you to hurt you?

Later, QD.

Ms Dollar
12-31-2005, 12:10 PM
It seems to me as though the African American Society feels as though "white people" do not view them as socially acceptable I guess you should say and how things were so hard for them to become people with the rest of us. Well back in the day it was the same way for women, but we don't have our own month. I see Black History Month as a way for them to further segregate themselves from the entire population, and still have something else to complain about.

Disclaimer: I don't want to get flamed for this. I treat people the way that I am treated, and I don't think that it is right to judge based on stereotypes. This is just my opinion, I don't want people to think that I am racist.

ahmonrah
12-31-2005, 04:04 PM
You know why that is folks? I'll Tell you why it is looked at that way: it's because of history.

Rather than to get deep into it, i'll give you an anological example (these seem to work best) <Truth: it helps with relativity.

It's like your friends, you've got a bunch of friends that might make jokes about doing your mom. You know their just kinding though, these jokes are simply "harmless fun". BUT Say your friend Tom Really did your mom a while back under some special circumstances (both being drunk etc.)

It took you a while to get over it but forgiveness ensued. Now in actuality Mike, Robert, "J" all of them can make periodic jokes about your mom here and there but if Tom Dare to due some shit like that "IT's a whole different story." Tom can never due it again. Tom had lost his exclusive right to ever try that again.

Now I know this current generation has nothing to due with what happend in the past. What you must grasp in the fact that situations like that invoke unfavorable feelings in people and 9 times out of ten if you or someone you care about hasent gone through it you will most likely NEVER understand!

Simple Humanistic Characteristics transcend everything that is in place in today's society!

Of course Seperation Feeds Racism that's a simple fact.

Seperation does not support interaction, therefore; culture do not embrace each other.

good point kevykev. i thought i was closing the door on this discussion. but i'm coming back in.

in terms of your own personal history,(i'm talking ALL OF YOU ON IA.COM) just take a second, look at your family history. and actually try to trace it back as far as you can go.

look at your parents, your grand parents, and then go to their parents. eventually if you talk to the older people in your family. they will point you to a name of someone that came here from europe, asian or india. from there you will begin to hear stories of things they have done and you will know of your lineage. note that your name changes happened through either marriage or by choice.

i know for a fact i gave that task to a couple friends that were of different ethnicities and they 2 were happy to find out that: one was a descendant of a french aristocrat centuries ago. and the other is a direct descendant of ghengis khan.

now for african born americans whose ancestors survived through slavery. i'll ask and have asked them to do the exact same thing. what i knew is that most of us could only go back to the fact that: for me, my grand father was a sharecropper(glorified word for slave) in arkansas and before that, his father was a freed slave. with the majority of african born americans almost all ties with your african ancestors history and lineage were severed through :
A)forced name changes by slave owners
and
B) being bought and sold to the highest bidder.

the results of both are a group of peope with no ancestral name and a nearly untraceable bloodline.

PSINXS
12-31-2005, 04:18 PM
It seems to me as though the African American Society feels as though "white people" do not view them as socially acceptable I guess you should say and how things were so hard for them to become people with the rest of us. Well back in the day it was the same way for women, but we don't have our own month. I see Black History Month as a way for them to further exclude themselves from the entire population, and still have something else to complain about.

Disclaimer: I don't want to get flamed for this. I treat people the way that I am treated, and I don't think that it is right to judge based on stereotypes. This is just my opinion, I don't want people to think that I am racist.
With the way blacks have already been sterotyped from the past and from our present generation it is hard for blacks to feel socially acceptable. with the same general sterotypes as blacks steal, they love watermelon, or they are all uneducated, ignorant, poor thugs. When so many blacks are trying to break those barriers we still get held back by other closed minded people(even blacks). you see the number of aryan forums that still portray those very stereotypes to the masses. Who knows how many have changed views because of that? Also a lot of that behavior is learned or passed on from family. i have been through that same crap with parents of women i've dated. It does make you feel out of place. While to you it is something that you think we may complain about, in actuality it's just something we are tired of.

RandomGuy
12-31-2005, 05:13 PM
With the way blacks have already been sterotyped from the past and from our present generation it is hard for blacks to feel socially acceptable. with the same general sterotypes as blacks steal, they love watermelon, or they are all uneducated, ignorant, poor thugs. When so many blacks are trying to break those barriers we still get held back by other closed minded people(even blacks). you see the number of aryan forums that still portray those very stereotypes to the masses. Who knows how many have changed views because of that? Also a lot of that behavior is learned or passed on from family. i have been through that same crap with parents of women i've dated. It does make you feel out of place. While to you it is something that you think we may complain about, in actuality it's just something we are tired of.
wut are you coming at? ban selling watermelons and fried chicken to black people? ...fuck that... laissez faire or wutever... let it heal itself... obviously racism is getting less and less as the world is a melting pot and time...

I'm with other posters... why isolate the month out of the year... don't they even have AA rallies and shit? Obviously it'll take time to end... but what exactly does the month do? Put all the focus on that one group? And whoever posted above... if there was a channel called "White Entertainment Television" ... HOLY SHIT that would be offensive? Right? Even if they had the same sentiment that BET sometimes holds (jokingly) to white ppl... right? Now imagine if that was said on WET... ! !

PSINXS
12-31-2005, 05:22 PM
wut are you coming at? ban selling watermelons and fried chicken to black people? ...fuck that... laissez faire or wutever... let it heal itself... obviously racism is getting less and less as the world is a melting pot and time...

I'm with other posters... why isolate the month out of the year... don't they even have AA rallies and shit? Obviously it'll take time to end... but what exactly does the month do? Put all the focus on that one group? And whoever posted above... if there was a channel called "White Entertainment Television" ... HOLY SHIT that would be offensive? Right? Even if they had the same sentiment that BET sometimes holds (jokingly) to white ppl... right? Now imagine if that was said on WET... ! !
i didnt say ban that stuff. i said it is our stereotype that we cant overcome. racism wont heal itself. not with supremecist stil prevalent.

quickdodge®
12-31-2005, 06:05 PM
SOMEONE ANSWER MY QUESTION!

Lolol. Everyone keeps dancing away from it. Later, QD.

Kevykev
12-31-2005, 06:11 PM
I still stand by it......and no one has answered it yet......What has BET or other black-only enterprises done to you to hurt you?

Later, QD.


Uhh That should be ummmm, how about Nothing.

I saw Gwen Stefani on BET today nah mean, caus eshe ain't no holla back gurl Nome Sayin'!

ahmonrah
12-31-2005, 06:26 PM
i have a question. why is it that blk history month rubs some people in here the wrong way? some people belly aching about "oh, why do they need a MONTH to talk about blk history!!?" i just dont get it.

30 days to celebrate or at least learn some shit about blk people that you didnt know is tiny. especially, though i never complain cause i like history, all you have to do is turn to THE HISTORY CHANNEL and spending one day you'll learn everything from ANCIENT ROMANS, to the FRENCH REVOLUTION, to KING LOUIS V, to THE GUCCI FAMILY of italy. and that is one day in 365. and one channel. there are more channels that give glimpses into caucasian history in the world and since you see it so much it doesnt faze you.

chrisdavis
12-31-2005, 07:10 PM
SOMEONE ANSWER MY QUESTION!

Lolol. Everyone keeps dancing away from it. Later, QD.

Fuk your question. I already answered it. I said I personally do not care. I also stated the following since noone bothered to read my first post.

Cliff notes version
My first post

I feel that the term African American is a dignified description for black people to use and be proud of.

You only hear about stereotypical black people, because the hard working, productive black people do not incite controversy.


In response to your question

I don't give a shit about BET it doesn't bother me.

Now for my own rant

I do give a shit about Black History Month because I enjoy learning and when I was younger it exposed me to some great historical events that I may have otherwise not been exposed to. Honestly I think if Black History Month were to be integrated into the rest of the history curriculum. They would become just a few sentences and passed over quickly without much thought at all.

quickdodge®
12-31-2005, 07:15 PM
Fuk your question.

No. Fucc your repsonse. This question was deirected to the people that are bothered by black people wanting their own stuff such as a TV channel. Later, QD.

Dr.G35
01-01-2006, 01:21 AM
Yes. But, that is still no reason to harbor ill-will towards another race. It just seems like you are looking for ways to justify racism.

Again, why would BET or a black awards show hurt you? Same with whites. Why should black gets mad if white folks came out with their own awards show? Later, QD.

It might seem that way but that's not the point i am trying to get at. The point is, is what has already been said by other people on here is that, seclusion is a type of racism. I am in no way racist at all having black friends and family. And for an answer to your question, it doesn't hurt anybody that blacks have their own tv show its that they complain about feeling separated when they separate themselves. I just wish that we could get past it so the world would be a more cohesive place to live in. But then your next statement is, is how can we forget about a thing like this, we can't. I believe that we should integrate all history into one "American History".If all races, creeds, colors, and religions could be brought together would create a world of opportunity and wealth to all "Americans". Those not only wealthy but also poor, we would be one class of people. *Wishfull thinking*

green91
01-01-2006, 02:03 PM
I also seem to agree that BHM is a crock of shit. There are ALOT of people of all races that deserve recognition for great inventions and revolutionary ideas throughout history... and dont because their race doesnt have its own month. BHM is an attempt through some seclusionist african american leaders to further seperate themselves from the rest of society.

Without black inventors and idealists.. the US would not be the same today. But the same goes for man others.. including asians, native americans, british, etc..

I also hear the argument about BET.... I hate to say it, but watch BET sometime. BET only furthers to implant the stereotype about the "average" african american today.. that some ppl (IE Cosby) are trying to get away from. I understand that some african americans may feel looked down upon by other races.. but then promote such programming as BET. come on now.

I think that the history involving african americans should be incorporated into the history teachings in schools.. not even as black history but in chronological order along with the history of all other races.

trini_gsr
01-01-2006, 02:24 PM
I also hear the argument about BET.... I hate to say it, but watch BET sometime. BET only furthers to implant the stereotype about the "average" african american today.. that some ppl (IE Cosby) are trying to get away from. I understand that some african americans may feel looked down upon by other races.. but then promote such programming as BET. come on now.

i agree 100%. they could and should be doing so much more with BET, it's a big let down. i mean i like to watch videos as much as the next man...but damn son...is it too much to ask for some educational programming that caters to 18-30 yr olds? well...Viacom owns BET now anyhow...these are the same folks that own VH1 and MTV...


I think that the history involving african americans should be incorporated into the history teachings in schools.. not even as black history but in chronological order along with the history of all other races.

this would be ideal but isn't gonna happen any time soon, honestly speaking...

rolling_trip
01-01-2006, 02:39 PM
i feel "black american history" is amercan history, plain and simple. this only seperates the races even more, just like BET and AOL's "Black Voices". MLK Jr would is crying in his grave watching the idea he had, being spun into a reversed sort of racism. Instead of coming together as AMERICANS, we are being spoon fed how much we are different.

PSINXS
01-01-2006, 03:27 PM
^so true. we are all people and we all deal with n go through the same shit. Color is a false distinction.

4dmin
01-01-2006, 03:54 PM
MLK Jr would is crying in his grave watching the idea he had, being spun into a reversed sort of racism. Instead of coming together as AMERICANS, we are being spoon fed how much we are different.

2nd that :goodjob:

quickdodge®
01-01-2006, 08:03 PM
All I can say is...I'm glad I don't let all this get to me like it does to ya'll. Hell, I don't think about it. Later, QD.

ahmonrah
01-02-2006, 02:37 AM
when it's concerning BET. it can't stand that station 'cause it only deals with videos...
i remember when i first realized the station, i thought it would be more like a station that did like documentaries and things like that. not some music station. so i quickly lost interest in ti. then began to almost hate it. it was more entertainment, than education.

ahmonrah
01-02-2006, 02:43 AM
oh. and i dont see it as separation. at all. we have different perspective to this thing called human history. and with that all of our histories should be told. i dont see blk history as being a seperatist thing. i honestly see the way it's broadcast and portrayed now as a commercial tool to be used to make money though. with ads getting ready to start bombarding our senses in FEB. i know i'm gonna see MLK'S face slathered across Mcdonalds cups and restaurants all over the country. and we owe that to a family that made his legacy a business product to be sold to whoever offers a good stack of cash.

pacman031
01-05-2006, 10:24 PM
i dont really agree with having our own month to recognize. it does make it seem pretty racist and wha tnot. on the other hand i do think it informs ppl a bout what some influential blacks did that they might otherwise not know aobut. i think it should just be fused moe into the school books than have a seperatemonth for it. and yes why not recognize asians, italians, or whites? if u do it for one all should get it. but i would rather not have it at all. and i went to a predominantly white school in HS and it wa awkward having that month.

and i dont like being called african american. iam not from Africa!! i was born in georgia. i am a Black man.

I agree and I am mixed (puerto rican,black,indian, and white)!

Tank
01-06-2006, 02:28 AM
im mixed both ways but in my opinion i kind of feel both sides of the fence on one hand i believe that reconizing and teaching your cultures past is a important thing however i don't feel it should be a month seperated for it, especially if your talking about trying to bring one country of many cultures together. But in the end it is American history but its also black history. and as far as the BET shit goes, BET for blacks is the same as MTV for whites im my opinion but i think they both suck ass so there.

Allstar3.8T
01-06-2006, 10:59 PM
I am not a racist. Let me make sure everyone understands that first off. I only wanna make people stop and think.
To gain true equality, all the "equalizers" must be dropped. No United Negro college fund, no Blk History month, no special anything....unless all races get the same treatment. The days of that being necessary are over. I KNOW it was needed, I feel it now is a speed bump to the "minorities" REALIZING where they really have come to...or achieved if you will.
The word Minority is misleading. That implies a less than 50% in numbers alone. (whether it be population or income or a mathamatical equation of a combination) Never is a white a minority in this theory. Regardless of the same theory of #s. You realize in many Atlanta suburbs now, Blks are the majority race, Whites are the minority. (Clayton Co, DeKalb Co, Fulton Co, Cobb Co) Now whos the minority?
If the world is to be color-blind, they should be taught, not told.
I am also disgusted in seeing rich minority actors talk about thier plight. They live on $100,000,000 incomes and cant overcome thier own feelings on inadequacy, and they are in the top .01% of the country. Give it a rest already. I have no sympathy for Spike Lee, Kanye West, or any other "activist" that only sees one color. You wanna impress me, Then realize Poor is poor, needy is needy...forget color, and help the closest person in need.

Dr.G35
01-07-2006, 12:27 AM
ahmen

Tank
01-07-2006, 03:14 AM
I am not a racist. Let me make sure everyone understands that first off. I only wanna make people stop and think.
To gain true equality, all the "equalizers" must be dropped. No United Negro college fund, no Blk History month, no special anything....unless all races get the same treatment. The days of that being necessary are over. I KNOW it was needed, I feel it now is a speed bump to the "minorities" REALIZING where they really have come to...or achieved if you will.
The word Minority is misleading. That implies a less than 50% in numbers alone. (whether it be population or income or a mathamatical equation of a combination) Never is a white a minority in this theory. Regardless of the same theory of #s. You realize in many Atlanta suburbs now, Blks are the majority race, Whites are the minority. (Clayton Co, DeKalb Co, Fulton Co, Cobb Co) Now whos the minority?
If the world is to be color-blind, they should be taught, not told.
I am also disgusted in seeing rich minority actors talk about thier plight. They live on $100,000,000 incomes and cant overcome thier own feelings on inadequacy, and they are in the top .01% of the country. Give it a rest already. I have no sympathy for Spike Lee, Kanye West, or any other "activist" that only sees one color. You wanna impress me, Then realize Poor is poor, needy is needy...forget color, and help the closest person in need.


damn very well said however i still think education of a persons past is important, cause i have a 3 year old and already he's asked why is he dark and other kids light. I was speechless for a lil while then i just talked to him about the differences in people's exterior but the similarties in our interiors. i dont think education on who a person or there past is wrong but how it is taught is what will effect the new generation.

tony
01-07-2006, 11:49 AM
i feel "black american history" is amercan history, plain and simple. this only seperates the races even more, just like BET and AOL's "Black Voices". MLK Jr would is crying in his grave watching the idea he had, being spun into a reversed sort of racism. Instead of coming together as AMERICANS, we are being spoon fed how much we are different.


How many whites in the south are TRULY interested in black history though? I dont want to come off hostile in any way but hell a lot of whites here dont even like being around black people let alone try and learn something about their heritage.

I dont see the problem with a month of recognition personally. I'm sorry but while economically I will say there is a level playing field, socially there is not and I'm not sure if there will ever be. Black history month isnt being forced on anyone, if you don't believe then don't celebrate.. pretty plain in simple.

Didnt read the entire thread cause I know I'd end up irritated so if this has been said I apologize.

quickdodge®
01-07-2006, 12:04 PM
How many whites in the south are TRULY interested in black history though? I dont want to come off hostile in any way but hell a lot of whites here dont even like being around black people let alone try and learn something about their heritage.

I've always been interested in all facets of history. Having a black daughter and a couple of relationships doesn't make me a "know-anything" about black culture, but the fact that I was/am interested gave me my knowledge.


I dont see the problem with a month of recognition personally.

Same.


Black history month isnt being forced on anyone, if you don't believe then don't celebrate.. pretty plain in simple.

That's why I kept asking how it hurts people to have it. Why complain about it if it isn't affecting you. Lolol. And I'm white! Yay! Later, QD.

1/4Mile
01-07-2006, 07:06 PM
By the answers to the poll I feel like ppl who aren't a minority maybe will always think its dumb, and that's the Dumb part. I find that funny but very saddening at the same time. If the shoe was on the other foot I think to poll would have slightly different results. As long a Ppl know that know matter which history month you want to have or not have, if we don't start learning each others history, it won't be any changes in the future. Things will still be F'ed Up


:werd:

green91
01-08-2006, 12:18 PM
there are plenty of other minorties with a rich history that dont get a month to recognize it. thats the dumb part. all or none is what i say.

JITB
01-11-2006, 02:31 PM
I want to know whos fault it is that the other races dont have a month? Noones stopping them for celebrating there history.

Allstar3.8T
01-12-2006, 10:11 PM
As long as EVERYONE is taught that all men were created equally, and racism isnt about color, its about hatred...and hatred= ignorance....I am happy.

The Golden Child
01-12-2006, 10:49 PM
I demand a recognized Asian history month!!! lol


I honestly dont have a problem with it at all, and I might be stoned for this comment, but why is there no designated white history month (Im half white lol) or something like that. I see channels like BET and there is no WET or AET (White/Asian). If there was , the creators of the channel would be regarded as being discriminatory or racist for having their own channel? Maybe someone can give me some more insight on this subject, because Ive always just wondered that.

we have KBS that should count atleast .. no ??

The Golden Child
01-12-2006, 10:55 PM
SOMEONE ANSWER MY QUESTION!

Lolol. Everyone keeps dancing away from it. Later, QD.

im korean and i like wathcing bet ..
i have nothing against black history month or jewish holidays or what not ..
just some people float with the boat and others sink ..

Jason04srt4
01-14-2006, 11:33 PM
I can't stand black history month, v-103, BET or anything pro-black. I'm not racist(I'm attracted 2 to many bad ass black,white, latino,asian women to be racist). What if there was a month called White History month, or a radio station that constantly talked about the "white community and white people"
or how bout White Entertainment Television.Then there was that whole thing about trying to make ebonics an official language. Why do blacks want to single them selves out. Come on I thought segregation was over with.

Peace

JITB
01-15-2006, 07:17 AM
I can't stand black history month, v-103, BET or anything pro-black. I'm not racist(I'm attracted 2 to many bad ass black,white, latino,asian women to be racist). What if there was a month called White History month, or a radio station that constantly talked about the "white community and white people"
or how bout White Entertainment Television.Then there was that whole thing about trying to make ebonics an official language. Why do blacks want to single them selves out. Come on I thought segregation was over with.

Peace

People always say that. lol V103 pro black...wow If ther was a white radio station it would be dumb, b/c there is no black radio station. There are rap - country - rock - pop stations etc. I dotn think there is a Black option for types of radio stations. And BET is and was created to entertain blacks with shows that blacks want to watch. That dont mean theres no white people on BET. You know waht i think soem people are jealous, why not start a petition and write your politician and get a white history month..

Tell me this in white history month what would we celebrate? other than what we already do. Most of the history of this country is white history.

i dont want to be singled out, but the way blacks were treated in the past blacks realizd that noone else was gonna do anything for us. So why not do it for yourself its as simple as that. Idiotsl always complain about black folks not doin nothin for themselves etc, and they are the first ones that want to complain about what we DO have for ourselves.... ..now thats funny.


and i swear if soemoone says "im not racists i have (black/asian/mexican) friends" one more time i will slit my wrists... i think thats the official racists defence line.. :lmfao:

Jason04srt4
01-15-2006, 08:03 AM
Anybody who reads my post can think I'm racist. I really don't care. I know I'm not, and my white friends know I'm not. I just have my issues with pro-black stuff.

quickdodge®
01-15-2006, 08:22 AM
and i swear if soemoone says "im not racists i have (black/asian/mexican) friends" one more time i will slit my wrists... i think thats the official racists defence line.. :lmfao:

I agree. And about a white history month? There aren't too many things the white people have done as a whole that we should be proud of. I want to celebrate the days when whites "owned" black people and destroyed their lives. Don't we already celebrate Columbus Day? That's Christopher Columbus right? Isn't, he the dude that came over with the boats from Europe and started the whole process of colonizing America? Meaning taking the land from the people that were already here. Pushing them back and away and thus forcing them on to reservations that we were nice enough to let them have? Sounds like something to be proud of. Yeah, makes sense. Later, QD.

Kevykev
01-15-2006, 12:15 PM
I agree. And about a white history month? There aren't too many things the white people have done as a whole that we should be proud of.


Yes there is, just have to leave the details out and everything will be fine. ;)

Tracy
01-15-2006, 12:31 PM
I don't know anymore white history than black history. To me it's kind of lame to seperate them. I understand the concept, but maybe people should fight to get the history integrated instead of fighting for a black history month. Blacks fought long and hard to not be segregated, yet in a lot of ways they still are. I have 2 black nephews and me and my sister are very aware of the troubles he will face and we do our best to teach him about both sides of his heritage. Ihope that one day we will have all beautiful brown babies..but that's just me. My nephew is the most adorable thing ever. He has beautiful skin and eyes. He's a perfect mix.

green91
01-15-2006, 04:10 PM
QD i think your logic is flawed. Every race has history that they arent proud of.. blacks and whites both included. If it were studied as history and not seperated it would be much better. I can think of plenty "white" history that would be worth celebrating if it had its own time for recognition. (Which i dont think "race based" history needs)

quickdodge®
01-15-2006, 04:17 PM
QD i think your logic is flawed.

I don't think it is. Where do you think it is flawed? Because I see no need to make a big deal over blacks having their own stuff cuz it doesn't affect me? Should I be another white person that is upset because V-103 and BET exists? To me, that is where logic is flawed. Should I be proud that our ancestors did what they did to black folks? I'm not por-black or pro-white. I am pro-me and my family. If it doesn't affect us, I don't see the big deal in worrying about it. Later, QD.

green91
01-15-2006, 04:33 PM
I agree with you completely as far as that goes! It personally doesnt upset me that there is a black history month. I do however think its un-necessary. I dont care about v-103 or BET... i just skip over them along with mtv and most other garbage on TV and radio. I think that by seperating 1 race and giving them a month it causes inequality for everyone

quickdodge®
01-15-2006, 06:22 PM
I think that by seperating 1 race and giving them a month it causes inequality for everyone

I do understand that reasoning. Makes sense. But it wouldn't cause inequality if people wouldn't bitch about it...not saying you do/are. Just in general. Just let it be. If whites did it, then the blacks shouldn't say anything. Later, QD.

quickdodge®
01-15-2006, 06:22 PM
Oh and I skip over BET, V103 and all those stations too, because they don't play what I like anyway, lolol. Later, QD.

Kevykev
01-16-2006, 02:26 PM
Speaking of stations whatever happend to 97.1 Jams?

JITB
01-16-2006, 05:36 PM
it was too black

green91
01-17-2006, 08:34 AM
you're an idiot. i hope you're being sarcastic

quickdodge®
01-17-2006, 01:38 PM
He is. Lolol. It is now 97 The River. Good music, too. Later, QD.

JITB
01-17-2006, 02:34 PM
haha i dont even know what 97.1 is..

green91
01-17-2006, 02:54 PM
ok i apologize for the name calling :)

AtifSajid
01-18-2006, 02:16 PM
This Poll is racist!

Kevykev
01-18-2006, 06:46 PM
Yeah, ban paul for posting the gayest poll options ever.

thinkfast®
01-18-2006, 06:48 PM
total racise!!

JITB
01-19-2006, 03:54 AM
this poll is why all races have issues with white people..

Jason04srt4
01-19-2006, 04:16 PM
LOL, If anything it is the other way around. Atleast in america. I bet latin and asian people dislike more blacks than they do whites. LOL, I love atlanta and all the racial crap that gets started down here.

PSINXS
01-19-2006, 10:55 PM
however i do agree with tracy on everyone ahving brownw babies. i really want mixed kids. not for any racial superiority reasons, but just cuz i think 9 out of 10 times any type of mix comes out pretty. i fear having ugly kids on the real.

JITB
01-20-2006, 04:14 AM
LOL, If anything it is the other way around. Atleast in america. I bet latin and asian people dislike more blacks than they do whites. LOL, I love atlanta and all the racial crap that gets started down here.


i knew u were racist

Jason04srt4
01-20-2006, 05:22 PM
i knew u were racist

Nah, I'm just real. Would you rather me kiss black people's ass/act fake to there face, and then degrade them behind there backs.

Yeah, I know i come off as being racist/ignorant. But, oh'well. Everything I say I believe to be true from my own experiences from going to a mostly black High school, and working for 9 years in a mostly black job.

JITB
01-21-2006, 01:57 AM
I was just joking, but since u said that i dotn care where u went ot school and who u worked with. You are not black.. soo that means nothing.

Whats wrong with blacks celebrating there history? Asians do it there country. puerto ricans have a parade in NY. Evn gays have a whole week for themselves in San Fran. What harm does it do? Noones stopping white people from havign there own month - week whatever. You will say "if white people had a month for them or if they had there own channel everyone would say its racists" Tell me what would you all celebrate if there was a White History Month that isnt already celebrated? ANything that isnt already celebrated. Everyones wants to be equal but, any minority is gonna want to have a way of remembering the struggle or their own history.

it would make since that most minorities would stick together more than the majority of a place, simple because they can all relate to each other.

Jason04srt4
01-21-2006, 09:38 AM
Ok, Your right. I apologize if I have offended anyone with the post I have made. Me personally, I don't like anything pro-balck. So I will just keep away from threads will racial issues.

Peace

quickdodge®
01-21-2006, 10:35 AM
^^^ Sounds like true-colors to me. Later, QD.

Kevykev
01-21-2006, 10:36 AM
Nah, I'm just real. Would you rather me kiss black people's ass/act fake to there face, and then degrade them behind there backs.

Yeah, I know i come off as being racist/ignorant. But, oh'well. Everything I say I believe to be true from my own experiences from going to a mostly black High school, and working for 9 years in a mostly black job.

Being real is cool, but I doubt your hypothesis is correct! Who knows, maybe the ones you come incontact show biases towards a race that isn't yours.

You might be real but they might be questionable.

I certainly know asians and hispanics that have a disliking towards whites, can i draw any type of honorable conclusion form that, no not really.

Lack of positive interaction can cause those prejudices to arise. Society can definately facilitate that "lack of positive interaction" in many MANY ways. no need to elaborate.

HalfBaked
01-21-2006, 10:52 AM
I didn't read the whole thread.

But here is what I think...


IT'S RACIST AS HELL! I MEAN FUCK, THEY PUT IT IN FEBRUARY?! WHATS UP WITH THAT, WHY CAN'T BLACK HISTORY MONTH BE A NORMAL MONTH WITH A NORMAL AMOUNT OF DAYS. SHIT IS WACK MAN...

JITB
01-21-2006, 11:57 AM
Ok, Your right. I apologize if I have offended anyone with the post I have made. Me personally, I don't like anything pro-balck. So I will just keep away from threads will racial issues.

Peace


i dont get it, why does anythign pro-black bother you? thats like me a mazda lover being against u because u like dodges. I mean it does me no harm soo why the hard feelings.

Kevykev
01-21-2006, 12:21 PM
Peace

Do you hate the KKK?

quickdodge®
01-21-2006, 12:21 PM
^^^ I've been asking that question through-out the whole thread. Later, QD.

Jason04srt4
01-21-2006, 03:01 PM
Do you hate the KKK?

Ofcourse, There a pro-white extremist christian group. I'm christian, so I can't stand the fact that they use biblical history as a reason to say that they are superior to other races.

Kevykev
01-21-2006, 03:10 PM
I understand, remember I never called you racist. Just knew that there was more to your story.

CapnNismo
01-21-2006, 10:34 PM
I believe Black History Month is a crock of shit as well and we only have the NAACP to blame. Sure, the NAACP did great things back in the Civil Rights Movement days, but after that ended and all of the segregation and other shit was done away with, they pull the race card every chance they get.

They should teach black history with normal American history ... they certainly have the time in a lot of these high schools in America. But then at the same time they would be sued and forced to teach other racial history in the school. But if they try to do that, I call bullshit. Latinos didn't play a big role in American history until the mid to late 1800s and then Asians have always been ignored. I think they should teach about the concentration camps they had for Japanese Americans during WW2 and more about the oppression the Chinese went through in the West during the building of the rail road. So pretty much the only "races" that played any real influential role in the forming of the modern USA are whites, blacks, and asians.

JITB
01-22-2006, 06:52 AM
soo who is suposed to creat this month or day or holiday or whatever for the asians , and latinos? Whos stoppipng them form doing tihs again? not the naacp... and i dont think anyone. So again why does black history a problem? And they do teach black history at schools along with american history.

CapnNismo
01-23-2006, 01:04 PM
I know they do teach black history with American history in middle schools in Houston County ... high school ... eh, not so much.

Nismo
01-25-2006, 01:21 AM
I want Asian history month. More interesting any how.

coolZero
02-03-2006, 03:49 PM
I still stand by it......and no one has answered it yet......What has BET or other black-only enterprises done to you to hurt you?

Later, QD.

Nothing

And I'll add this. I think blacks short change themsleves by only having a month. History is all the time.

Kevykev
02-03-2006, 06:32 PM
I want Asian history month. More interesting any how.

:lmfao:

I saw a program on the Chin Dynasty via The Discovery Channel. That's some Azn History.

Firefightin_tC
02-03-2006, 11:48 PM
It's funny, people wonder what about the WET...White Entertainment Televison...then maybe it's me but what the fuck is NBC, ABC, and CBS?

We got UPN and BET....we got screwed...again, unless you want to consider ESPN, lol. What can I say...we own Sportscenter.

Let's not forget Telemundo for the Latinos and WE for the women.
As far as Black History goes, to be honest...as a black man there are portions of black history that I don't know, the same goes for every single race. No one can sit here and say they know every prominent figure in thier race that effected history and the world as we know it. We can name the most famous ones and a few could possible even name more than that.

I agree with alot of people, I don't want a Black History Month because to be honest...why should there be a month set aside just for Black History. It should be taught along with everything else in schools and for general knowledge.

But then, it's just my two cents.

JITB
02-04-2006, 02:41 AM
what schools did u all go to where black ihstory wasnt taught other than februarary..

IndianStig
02-05-2006, 02:15 PM
UPN gets the shittiest quality of all channels on Comcast
lol

ps. I think Black History Month is a whole bunch of hooha

i mean where is White History Month
Asian (oriental) History Month
Asian (brown) History Month
Asian (all) History Month
Middle eastern History Month
Hispanic History Month
Pacific Islander History Month

where is all that stuff??????

although i did get this pretty tight Guiness Black Leather Jacket worth $160 for free because of the Liquor Store and black history month events, lol

quickdodge®
02-05-2006, 04:48 PM
^^^ How come you won't shut the fucc up? You never add anything worth a shit to a conversation. Later, QD.

JITB
02-06-2006, 12:21 AM
everyone wants their own celeberation , whos to blame for not having your own.

2turbo4u
02-06-2006, 10:23 AM
The reason there a black history month, is that black people wanted a way for the world to see what we have done in this country beside being a slave. As far as WET or what ever their channels or networks like 390 for Koreans,393 for Japanese on comcast lets don't talk about telemundo which been around before BET. If you want your own programing or station just get the money together a start up one just like Bob Johnson did in the early 80's(BET). Let's look at how long it took for Asian americans to finally be seen on t.v. not in kung-fu movies but in everyday situations? America haves a dark past, but our current generation of 16-25 yrs old people believe because they go to school w/blacks and others everything in the past should be forgotten. Look how long it took MTV to play black music, then rap? Why are their only UPN,WB that have most of the black programing? Racism is still here in this country, and it would never be erased. Now if only those N-rappers and sports stars stop acting like they knough their history and respect themselves and their people the rest of the world could see us in a better light. I wish we could go back to those days of dressing like people instead of animals 1950-1960's. People dressed more business like and clean and they looked like they where about something. Today we look like where about been bums.

2turbo4u
02-06-2006, 10:49 AM
this joke is 100% true, BET is a crock of shit... if i started WET tomorrow the Jesse Jackson and followers would be having a sit in front of my house. why don't the Jews have JEWtv? you don't see them bitching and complaining about having a history month... hell millions of them were exterminated off the planet, but the blacks were inslaved... hmm what is worse??? i guess since blacks lived through their sufferage that they are entitled to something :rolleyes:

African American??? wtf is that... that is some fucked up shit, i would love to know how many blacks have even been to their so called mother land. what is amazing is there is black people across the globe, but you won't find blacks in europe saying they are African European :lmfao:

seperation feeds racism.
Paul you got to remember Jews have power and blacks don't. When was the last time a government of country paid blacks for what was taken from them. Jews have many days they celebrate their heritage which is called Jewish holidays. I'm from NYC and everyminute their another holiday for them but the rest of the people have to work? How many European blacks are their compare to the ones in the states? Most of them went their looking for a better life not shipped overthere. I myself is a European black from the Westindies and my parents went to England to have a better life for their selves and family. It takes a lot of people to make a change look what MLK did. In other countries their are not enough blacks to change the minds of the government. Look what happened in France, did you even knough that their a black hoods outside of the U.S.?

ClipseGST
02-06-2006, 04:41 PM
Black History month isn't bad in essence, but the basic premise of it is flawed. No one ethnicity of people should a month. Black, Indian, Asian, White and everyone else should all be taught in the classroom. Cuz to be honest... the United States is what it is because of all of us. Blacks (Slavery), Indians (Colonization), Asians (Push into the West), Whites (Civil War). We all have influenced history.... so we should learn it all.

.blank cd
02-07-2006, 12:17 AM
Im not mad that we have a black history month but what i wanna know is, why we gotta get the shortest month???:confused:

2.0civic
02-12-2006, 08:14 PM
i know somebody is going to get pissed about this but fuck it. I think its stupid as hell to have black history month. If we had white or any other race for that matter, we'd all be racists. I hate all the racism bullshit. i know racism is wrong, but i dont owe anybody a damn thing bc their family suffered from slavery. i hate how black people call other people niggas but they would get super pissed if we called them that. If you dont want to be called shit like that, set the example and dont say it to each other. hypocrites. peace.

Kevykev
02-12-2006, 08:16 PM
Happy Black HISTORY MONTH PEOPLE!!!!

JITB
02-12-2006, 08:27 PM
i think white people should get mad when ppl call them crackers... how can u be upset @ black folks because they get mad at u for calling them out of their name.

2.0civic
02-12-2006, 08:39 PM
i personally get pissed off when people call me a racial slur. i dont care who it is. if someone comes up to me and calls me cracker, theryre getting it. hell, its like a retarded kid going to another one and being like "whats up sped?" its just stupid.

JITB
02-12-2006, 08:51 PM
wow its like you arguing with yourself...

quickdodge®
02-12-2006, 09:07 PM
i know somebody is going to get pissed about this but fuck it. I think its stupid as hell to have black history month. If we had white or any other race for that matter, we'd all be racists. I hate all the racism bullshit. i know racism is wrong, but i dont owe anybody a damn thing bc their family suffered from slavery. i hate how black people call other people niggas but they would get super pissed if we called them that. If you dont want to be called shit like that, set the example and dont say it to each other. hypocrites. peace.

This whole post makes about as much sense as owning a sled when you live in Miami. Answer my previous question in this forum, dude.

How does BHM hurt you, personally? How does it hurt you when a black guy calls another black guy the N-word? Do you just wanna be able to say it, yourself? Makes no sense at all to work yourself up over nothing that doesnt' hurt/include you. Later, QD.

Tasuki_Civic
02-12-2006, 09:56 PM
i know somebody is going to get pissed about this but fuck it. I think its stupid as hell to have black history month. If we had white or any other race for that matter, we'd all be racists. I hate all the racism bullshit. i know racism is wrong, but i dont owe anybody a damn thing bc their family suffered from slavery. i hate how black people call other people niggas but they would get super pissed if we called them that. If you dont want to be called shit like that, set the example and dont say it to each other. hypocrites. peace.


lmao that was funny. your rite on tha nigga part. but in some aspects some mind you some blk pplsay it because they may mean it as in "stupi person" or jus to say it in relation. like you have to get to know your friend to call him a red neck, white trash if they allwo it as a joke....cause if you dont you will insult them. a mutual understandin. in america ignorance bliss
but hey if thats ur opinion thats jus how ya feel.

i think its great to have black history month. there are alot of pple who dont know how things were or how pple felt or how it is and it feels to be blk in this counrty. blk history month is not only important to blk pple but its part of the US history just like all those wars we read about in school in US history. alot of things happened that pple never knew exisited if it wasnt blk history month good and bad. it all would have been a secrect jus like over 75 percent stories that hasnt been presented today.

Tasuki_Civic
02-12-2006, 09:58 PM
when i said in america ignorance is bliss i wanst addressing you b18hatch. i was talkin about america period

Dragonfly5338
02-13-2006, 02:21 AM
Who cares? Anything that attempts to educate the masses of stupid people out there is a good thing. :)

edit: how do you vote if you're mixed white and black??!!? do i get two votes??

1 SICK GT
02-13-2006, 09:39 AM
i feel yall that black history should be totally integrated into american history or what have you, and should be taught like that. this is the ideal situation...

but the reality is that it's not. how much black history have YOU learned in high school? most of yall probably don't even know who marcus garvey is, know about any of the great black inventors, or even read any books by good black authors. i know when i was in HS i wasn't taught any of this stuff...besides prolly about MLK and Malcolm X.

And that's just the tip of the iceberg. the ugly truth is that slavery totally robbed black ppl in this country of their sense of worth and pride compared to everyone else. black folks' accomplishments were simply ignored, credited to their white masters, or otherwise written out of history for hundreds of years. remember...slaves weren't really ppl so there's no way they could be smart! and everyone back then felt like this...from scientists to doctors to christian pastors to the authors/historians who wrote all this stuff down...to sadly, even black ppl themselves eventually. that has serious psychological repercussions (thats for a different discussion tho)...

black history month is really just about giving black (and white) folks a chance to feel proud about who they are, what they've done, and where they came from...there was no other avenue to learn about black history when it started, and even today there still really isn't.

it was just 45 years ago that they started letting black ppl vote and share bathrooms with white ppl here...i think a LOT less ppl are racist now than then, but we still got a ways to go. when you start to hear about w.e.b. dubois like you hear about say...mark twain...then black history month wont be necessary...

AMEN

1 SICK GT
02-13-2006, 10:07 AM
this whole thread is stupid in my opinion, if you go back and re-read it the thread seems racist

my :2cents:
ok i could care less if there is or is not a black history month, i feel all history whether it's black, white, hispanic, italian, polish, german, indian, asian or what ever your race is should be taught year round.

so for those of you who have a problem with black history month maybe you should contact your congressman (which u wont) and have it equally integrated into American history, then there would be no need for the month.

and the comment the guy made about blacks always want to be separate (sp), i don't think they want to be separate (sp) i jus think they want to be acknowledge

jus my opinion if you get mad at it oh well life goes on, jus lay on your stomach and do some push ups or something :D


I'm A Racist I only care about one color and that's GREEN PAPER with dead presidents stamp on them

Tasuki_Civic
02-13-2006, 02:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by trini_gsr
i feel yall that black history should be totally integrated into american history or what have you, and should be taught like that. this is the ideal situation...

but the reality is that it's not. how much black history have YOU learned in high school? most of yall probably don't even know who marcus garvey is, know about any of the great black inventors, or even read any books by good black authors. i know when i was in HS i wasn't taught any of this stuff...besides prolly about MLK and Malcolm X.

And that's just the tip of the iceberg. the ugly truth is that slavery totally robbed black ppl in this country of their sense of worth and pride compared to everyone else. black folks' accomplishments were simply ignored, credited to their white masters, or otherwise written out of history for hundreds of years. remember...slaves weren't really ppl so there's no way they could be smart! and everyone back then felt like this...from scientists to doctors to christian pastors to the authors/historians who wrote all this stuff down...to sadly, even black ppl themselves eventually. that has serious psychological repercussions (thats for a different discussion tho)...

black history month is really just about giving black (and white) folks a chance to feel proud about who they are, what they've done, and where they came from...there was no other avenue to learn about black history when it started, and even today there still really isn't.

it was just 45 years ago that they started letting black ppl vote and share bathrooms with white ppl here...i think a LOT less ppl are racist now than then, but we still got a ways to go. when you start to hear about w.e.b. dubois like you hear about say...mark twain...then black history month wont be necessary...
AMEN


yes sir .... i do agree

SilverStoneZ
02-13-2006, 02:14 PM
How does BHM hurt you, personally? How does it hurt you when a black guy calls another black guy the N-word? Do you just wanna be able to say it, yourself? Makes no sense at all to work yourself up over nothing that doesnt' hurt/include you. Later, QD.


I dont think the issue is does BHM or BET hurt you I think it has to do with what would happen if there was a WHM or WET. I feel it would be protested as racist. If anyone protested BHM or BET on a large scale I feel they would be called racist. I personally dont care if we have a BHM I agree that there is a large part of history left out of the school books and it should be added. And on the topic of white people oweing blacks as slave issue(this is not direct to anything you said QD) check who was selling the people from africa yes thats right other Black tribes. I do not agree with the idea of haveing slaves in any way but if people want to look for some kind of compensation for what a family member maybe they should go after thoe who traped them in nets to be sold as slaves. Whites were also treated as slave in the form of an indentured servents i would agree they probly had it alot better but when you look back in history almost every race were slaves to some extent or another. Thats just my :2cents: you can forget everyting i have said its just my mindless rambleings
GoodDay

quickdodge®
02-13-2006, 02:27 PM
I dont think the issue is does BHM or BET hurt you

No. This is the issue. Why complain about something that doesn't affect you? THAT is my question. Later, QD.

SilverStoneZ
02-13-2006, 02:34 PM
No. This is the issue. Why complain about something that doesn't affect you? THAT is my question. Later, QD.


Ok I think i see it now it doesnt matter if its BET/BHM or WET/WHM whats the point in complaing it the events dont affect you in any way. If thats what you are saying than I agree 100%

Tasuki_Civic
02-13-2006, 02:39 PM
This whole post makes about as much sense as owning a sled when you live in Miami. Answer my previous question in this forum, dude.

How does BHM hurt you, personally? How does it hurt you when a black guy calls another black guy the N-word? Do you just wanna be able to say it, yourself? Makes no sense at all to work yourself up over nothing that doesnt' hurt/include you. Later, QD.


QD i like you lol.

quickdodge®
02-13-2006, 03:29 PM
^^^ Damn right you do. Lolol. Later, QD.

Timinater
02-14-2006, 05:33 PM
Black people are black

KNHTRDR
02-14-2006, 08:22 PM
I agree. And about a white history month? There aren't too many things the white people have done as a whole that we should be proud of. I want to celebrate the days when whites "owned" black people and destroyed their lives. Don't we already celebrate Columbus Day? That's Christopher Columbus right? Isn't, he the dude that came over with the boats from Europe and started the whole process of colonizing America? Meaning taking the land from the people that were already here. Pushing them back and away and thus forcing them on to reservations that we were nice enough to let them have? Sounds like something to be proud of. Yeah, makes sense. Later, QD.

:goodjob:

KNHTRDR
02-14-2006, 08:24 PM
As long as EVERYONE is taught that all men were created equally, and racism isnt about color, its about hatred...and hatred= ignorance....I am happy.

Damn stright:goodjob:

KNHTRDR
02-14-2006, 08:42 PM
Until about 5 or six years ago I didn't know that african american/black folks made most of the things we use in everyday life that I didn't learn in school like the iron the dryer the mailbox, hotcombs, I could go on but that is what HISTORY is about reguardless of your race. I garunTee you didn't learn that in school.

eclipsed
02-16-2006, 12:24 PM
i think its bull shit cause when a white man says somthin good about a white man we are called racist but when a black man says somthin good about a black man its the same i think its just too much damn bullshit and everyone needs to give it up and just hate everyone equally!lol

Tasuki_Civic
02-16-2006, 12:31 PM
hey eclipsed you have a red square qhat does that mean?? lol im not being sarcastic either

Jason04srt4
02-16-2006, 04:03 PM
I agree. And about a white history month? There aren't too many things the white people have done as a whole that we should be proud of. I want to celebrate the days when whites "owned" black people and destroyed their lives.

Lets not forget about the west african kings and queens who sold the slaves to the white people. What is more evil? To sell a person into slavery or to buy a slave?

Stay white and be proud! :lmfao:

quickdodge®
02-16-2006, 06:22 PM
Lets not forget about the west african kings and queens who sold the slaves to the white people. What is more evil? To sell a person into slavery or to buy a slave?

Stay white and be proud! :lmfao:

Moving on.

Tasuki Civic, the red X on your rep means that you suck and no one likes you. And I'm telling the truth, too. Later, QD.

green91
02-16-2006, 06:49 PM
is this thread still going?