Aljazeera

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Egyptian media says Obama is a Muslim Brotherhood member - Al Jazeera Blogs (http://blogs.aljazeera.com/topic/egypt/egyptian-media-says-obama-muslim-brotherhood-member)

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And?

What does the newspaper in the picture say?

[Vteckidd]

Interesting, but if it were true must have come out by now. Thats a pretty big secret. maybe joined it when he was in Pakistan.

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Maybe he joined when he was fighting jihad as a member of al Qaeda.

[Vteckidd]

Maybe he joined when he was fighting jihad as a member of al Qaeda.

not giving any relevance to this at all. But intersting that Al Jazeera would report it

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Maybe he joined while he was doing a bid in communist Muslim socialist atheist camp. Who really knows for sure.

[Elbow]

We can't have a Muslim president?

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We can't have a Muslim president?

We shouldnt.

[bu villain]

Blank, you should just assume he is. Better safe than sorry. Isn't it a little suspicious that he keeps giving money to the Egyptian military who overthrew and violently cracked down against the muslim brotherhood in Egypt. I mean that's obviously just to distract us from the truth.

[Sinfix_15]

Blank, you should just assume he is. Better safe than sorry. Isn't it a little suspicious that he keeps giving money to the Egyptian military who overthrew and violently cracked down against the muslim brotherhood in Egypt. I mean that's obviously just to distract us from the truth.

I like the sarcasm. You say that as if the US government has any reservations about who they rain money on.

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I'll tell you one thing. You can't prove he wasn't not a member of the Muslim brotherhood while studying in a communist Muslim socialist atheist camp.

Study it out.

[Vteckidd]

Blank, you should just assume he is. Better safe than sorry. Isn't it a little suspicious that he keeps giving money to the Egyptian military who overthrew and violently cracked down against the muslim brotherhood in Egypt. I mean that's obviously just to distract us from the truth.

Easy to debunk, thats all im saying. I dont believe it at all, I believe its much simpler than that.

[Vteckidd]

I'll tell you one thing. You can't prove he wasn't not a member of the Muslim brotherhood while studying in a communist Muslim socialist atheist camp.

Study it out.

taking a page from your own playbook i see.

You cant prove Romney DIDNT cheat on his taxes, IM JUST SAYING. - HARRY REID

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It says so right on his Kenyan birth certificate

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The biggest tool of the left is to take the legitimate questions around Obama and turn them into a joke, everything else, call that racism.

[bu villain]

You cant prove Romney DIDNT cheat on his taxes, IM JUST SAYING. - HARRY REID

Just want to go on the record saying that was also a very ballsy dickhead move on Reid's part.

[Vteckidd]

Just want to go on the record saying that was also a very ballsy dickhead move on Reid's part.

For the record, I dont believe Obama is a member of the MB, not at all. However, I do question his background and there are def questions about his past we do not know the answers too. He also did partake in some very radical organizations/speeches/rallys as a young man.

That doesnt mean hes not fit to be president, just helps me understand his thinking more.

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I heard Obama drinks Kroger brand sodas

"Can we really trust a man that drinks Dr. Thunder?"

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I heard Obama drinks Kroger brand sodas

"Can we really trust a man that drinks Dr. Thunder?"

It's not the Dr Thunder that makes people ask questions....

http://oneway2day.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/obama-quote-favoring-muslims.jpg?w=648&h=473
http://captainjamesdavis.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/obama-islam-tolerance.jpg?w=384&h=424&h=288
http://www.quotehd.com/imagequotes/TopAuthors/tmb/barack-obama-barack-obama-the-united-states-has-been-enriched-by-muslim-americans.jpg
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/64938_458201857560949_1282610626_n.jpg
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/future-must-not-belong-to-those-who-slander-prophet-islam-mohammad-barack-hussein-obama-muslim.jpg
http://harborbiblechurch.org/talk/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/ObamaMuslimLarge.jpg
http://www.1800politics.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Malik-Obama.jpg

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It's not the Dr Thunder that makes people ask questions....

Just out of context pictures and quotes on the Internet right? I'm reminded of one quote by a previous president...

"The thing about quotes on the Internet is, you cannot confirm their validity"
-Abraham Lincoln.

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Just out of context pictures and quotes on the Internet right? I'm reminded of one quote by a previous president...

"The thing about quotes on the Internet is, you cannot confirm their validity"
-Abraham Lincoln.

You can justify any radical quote you want by blaming the context. That is what you do.... you're in denial.

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You can justify any radical quote you want by blaming the context. That is what you do.... you're in denial.

Did you not learn about context clues when you were in school?

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Did you not learn about context clues when you were in school?

Put the comments in context for me blank

[David88vert]

It's not the Dr Thunder that makes people ask questions....

http://oneway2day.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/obama-quote-favoring-muslims.jpg?w=648&h=473



Sinfix, get the facts straight. Obama never said that quote.

Actual quote from "The Audacity of Hope" [pg. 261]: "Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

I suggest that you do some research before publishing these as statements from Obama.

[Sinfix_15]

Sinfix, get the facts straight. Obama never said that quote.

Actual quote from "The Audacity of Hope" [pg. 261]: "Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

I suggest that you do some research before publishing these as statements from Obama.

I understand the context of the quote. When you lump it in with everything else that Obama doesnt say, that is where i have issues. Also taking into consideration that Obama has the most control of the political winds. Should the political winds shift in an ugly direction, i wonder if Obama would stand with americans who value constitutional rights. Probably not, seeing as how Obama is one controlling the fan. The issue with that quote is the lengths Obama goes to confirm in support in certain areas and not others.

[BanginJimmy]

I suggest that you do some research before publishing these as statements from Obama.


That suggestion will be as pointless as it was when you said the same thing to blank. They would rater pull a pisture off the web than actually learn what they are crying about.


My opinions:

1. AJ has not been a fan of Obama from the start. They were pretty critical of him going back as far as his trip to Egypt right after being elected.
2. The birthers were/are idiots and Obama's team played them from the start. What better way to gin up racial solidarity than to have a bunch of white guys complain about Obama being unqualified to run based on where he was born?
3. I have nothing else but 2 seems to be too short of a list.

[bu villain]

How dare Obama imply he won't round up all Muslims and put them in camps! Audacity indeed!

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How dare Obama imply he won't round up all Muslims and put them in camps! Audacity indeed!

True that.... those "camps" are reserved for whistle blowers and libertarians.

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Obama preordered Xbox one when it was announced. He also bought the communist fantasy game MLB The Show.

[David88vert]

I understand the context of the quote. When you lump it in with everything else that Obama doesnt say, that is where i have issues. Also taking into consideration that Obama has the most control of the political winds. Should the political winds shift in an ugly direction, i wonder if Obama would stand with americans who value constitutional rights. Probably not, seeing as how Obama is one controlling the fan. The issue with that quote is the lengths Obama goes to confirm in support in certain areas and not others.

The quote that you posted is not a quote - it is an outright lie to say that he stated that, or implied it. You may have chosen to infer that from the statement, but the fact is - he did not even make the statement that you might have inferred it from.

When you do not research and verify the quote, you nullify your credibility when you have actual, correct quotes.

[David88vert]

That suggestion will be as pointless as it was when you said the same thing to blank. They would rater pull a pisture off the web than actually learn what they are crying about.


My opinions:

1. AJ has not been a fan of Obama from the start. They were pretty critical of him going back as far as his trip to Egypt right after being elected.
2. The birthers were/are idiots and Obama's team played them from the start. What better way to gin up racial solidarity than to have a bunch of white guys complain about Obama being unqualified to run based on where he was born?
3. I have nothing else but 2 seems to be too short of a list.

I fully agree with #3.

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All I know is, I saw an ad yesterday, it was Obama with his face painted white holding a box of saltines.

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http://i.imgur.com/Vxcpo.jpg

http://m.imgur.com/a/KkLys

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http://i.imgur.com/Vxcpo.jpg

imgur: the simple image sharer (http://m.imgur.com/a/KkLys)

http://www.allthingsdemocrat.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/teapartysign.jpg

[Echonova]

http://i.imgur.com/Vxcpo.jpg

imgur: the simple image sharer (http://m.imgur.com/a/KkLys)God is referenced, therefore nothing written can be believed.

[Elbow]

We shouldnt.

Why?

[WhiteAccord]

Just out of context pictures and quotes on the Internet right? I'm reminded of one quote by a previous president...

"The thing about quotes on the Internet is, you cannot confirm their validity"
-Abraham Lincoln.

Denial at its best

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Denial at its best

Denial of what? LOL. Sinfix admitted he understood the context the quotes. Sounds like you're a little late to the intellectual party.

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Why?

Because Islam is filth. They are the polar opposites of american values. Women and children are raped and murdered daily in the name of islam. Fathers give their daughters away to other men as young as age 9. Their laws condone rape and violence. They are the world leader in genocide and crimes against humanity. It makes me sick to my stomach to see how apologetic some americans are to muslims. Fuck every single muslim walking this planet.

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Denial of what? LOL. Sinfix admitted he understood the context the quotes. Sounds like you're a little late to the intellectual party.

Lets back it up a notch. I understand the context as it's projected by republicans is exaggerated. I still think he's talking about muslims and i still disagree with it. I disagree with it more along the grounds of what hasnt been said, vs what he actually said. As my own rights continue to evaporate, i'm tired of seeing american politicians champion the causes of other countries.

[David88vert]

Lets back it up a notch. I understand the context as it's projected by republicans is exaggerated. I still think he's talking about muslims and i still disagree with it. I disagree with it more along the grounds of what hasnt been said, vs what he actually said. As my own rights continue to evaporate, i'm tired of seeing american politicians champion the causes of other countries.

What you are really saying is that you don't like how Obama is in a rush to avenge the deaths of non-Americans in Syria, but not in a rush to avenge the deaths of Americans in Benghazi, right?

[Sinfix_15]

What you are really saying is that you don't like how Obama is in a rush to avenge the deaths of non-Americans in Syria, but not in a rush to avenge the deaths of Americans in Benghazi, right?

Broader than that.

[Elbow]

Because Islam is filth. They are the polar opposites of american values. Women and children are raped and murdered daily in the name of islam. Fathers give their daughters away to other men as young as age 9. Their laws condone rape and violence. They are the world leader in genocide and crimes against humanity. It makes me sick to my stomach to see how apologetic some americans are to muslims. Fuck every single muslim walking this planet.

Wow.

[Sinfix_15]

Wow.

The optimistic side of me wants to believe that you are saying "wow, i cant believe muslims allow fathers to give away their 9 year old daughters"

The realistic side of me believes that you are saying "wow, i cant believe you insulted muslims"

[Elbow]

The optimistic side of me wants to believe that you are saying "wow, i cant believe muslims allow fathers to give away their 9 year old daughters"

The realistic side of me believes that you are saying "wow, i cant believe you insulted muslims"

It's more of "wow" your stupidity and rudeness amazes me. I did write more, but it was too rude for me so I deleted it and I don't care to fight.

If you truly believe that, that's your choice.

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It's more of "wow" your stupidity and rudeness amazes me. I did write more, but it was too rude for me so I deleted it and I don't care to fight.

If you truly believe that, that's your choice.

Yeah, me being rude is a crime against humanity. I'll work to be more polite and not be outraged by the rape and murder. When i see people get disfigured, children thrown off roof tops, or people's heads cut off... i'll slow down, take a deep breath and remember to be polite.

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Yeah, me being rude is a crime against humanity. I'll work to be more polite and not be outraged by the rape and murder. When i see people get disfigured, children thrown off roof tops, or people's heads cut off... i'll slow down, take a deep breath and remember to be polite.

You are still confused. The tragedies you see on the news "in the name of Islam" represent the extreme minority of a small sect of Islam. You're attributing the minority to the majority. That is called a hasty generalization.

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You are still confused. The tragedies you see on the news "in the name of Islam" represent the extreme minority of a small sect of Islam. You're attributing the minority to the majority. That is called a hasty generalization.

The tragedies i see are endorsed by the Koran. It's not a generalization, it's calling an orange and orange. If you are a good, law abiding muslims citizen, then it is you who is confused, because there is no way to practice sharia law and united states law at the same time. They are conflicting ideas.


Your belief system is one big contradiction. In one thread you're saying minors arent developed enough to make decisions and then in another thread youre defending a religion that allows 9 year olds to be given away in marriage.

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The tragedies i see are endorsed by the Koran. It's not a generalization, it's calling an orange and orange. If you are a good, law abiding muslims citizen, then it is you who is confused, because there is no way to practice sharia law and united states law at the same time. They are conflicting ideas.

Have you read the Koran? What does it say about endorsing these tragedies? Do the majority of Muslims interpret the Koran this way?

[Elbow]

Unless you've read the Quran you have no room to talk.

Research it, read the Quran, then tell me if every single Muslim is as you describe. I have Muslim friends and have even dated two Muslims, I've yet to meet one on the extreme side. I've met more extreme Christians than Muslims.

There's no point in even discussing our feelings, you will never open your eyes.

[Sinfix_15]

Unless you've read the Quran you have no room to talk.

Research it, read the Quran, then tell me if every single Muslim is as you describe. I have Muslim friends and have even dated two Muslims, I've yet to meet one on the extreme side. I've met more extreme Christians than Muslims.

There's no point in even discussing our feelings, you will never open your eyes.

I'm sure i could find at least one decent person in the KKK.....

The muslims that dated you are not real muslims, otherwise they wouldnt have dated you. A lot of people are religious by affiliation. Its your friends and exgirlfriends who need to research the religion they claim. They are the ones confused.


also, none of this guy's friends thought he was radical either.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/blog_post_349_width/2013/04/boston_bombing_suspect_two_headshot_a_l.jpg

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Have you read the Koran? What does it say about endorsing these tragedies? Do the majority of Muslims interpret the Koran this way?

I'm in the process of picking at it. I've posted several scriptures already. Why continue if youre not going to address them.

Do i feel a majority of muslims interpret it literally? i hope not. Even if they arent living by the word, theyre a part of a "team" that is responsible for most of the world's genocide. Thousands of women and children get raped on behalf of islam. Thousands of americans have died in the name of islam. I've seen enough.

[Sinfix_15]

CHILD MARRIAGE OUR RIGHT AS MUSLIMS, Dokubo tells critics, says (http://thenigeriatoday.net/child-marriage-our-right-as-muslims-dokubo-tells-critics-says-it-is-not-your-business/)

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CHILD MARRIAGE OUR RIGHT AS MUSLIMS, Dokubo tells critics, says (http://thenigeriatoday.net/child-marriage-our-right-as-muslims-dokubo-tells-critics-says-it-is-not-your-business/)

One persons interpretation. About a billion more to go. Better get started.

[Sinfix_15]

One persons interpretation. About a billion more to go. Better get started.

Islam allows 9 year olds to marry. Not only marry, but be given away. In our country, that is rape and a violation of civil rights.

Is the basis of your argument that muslims do not actually follow their religion?

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Islam allows 9 year olds to marry. Not only marry, but be given away. In our country, that is rape and a violation of civil rights.

Is the basis of your argument that muslims do not actually follow their religion?

Similar to almost every religion, the vast majority of adherents are not strict fundamentalists. So why are you judging an entire religion based on the actions of a small minority?

[Elbow]

Similar to almost every religion, the vast majority of adherents are not strict fundamentalists. So why are you judging an entire religion based on the actions of a small minority?

Why do you still question his stupidity? He has no basis for his beliefs, he's just a "good ol' Amurcan" with closed minded beliefs and extreme difficulty in understanding and/or processing anything that isn't in his everyday life.

[Sinfix_15]

Similar to almost every religion, the vast majority of adherents are not strict fundamentalists. So why are you judging an entire religion based on the actions of a small minority?

because that "small minority" is the cause for millions of people suffering.

[Sinfix_15]

Why do you still question his stupidity? He has no basis for his beliefs, he's just a "good ol' Amurcan" with closed minded beliefs and extreme difficulty in understanding and/or processing anything that isn't in his everyday life.

You think with your heart more than you do your mind. That's admirable, but foolish. One day you will take off the rose colored glasses and see the world for what it is.

This is Islam
http://plancksconstant.org/blog1/image/sub5/mosaic-acid.jpg

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because that "small minority" is the cause for millions of people suffering.

So by that logic, its ok to generalize an entire group of people based on the actions of a few, if that few causes other people suffering?

Is it ok if I said white people are filth?

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Why do you still question his stupidity? He has no basis for his beliefs, he's just a "good ol' Amurcan" with closed minded beliefs and extreme difficulty in understanding and/or processing anything that isn't in his everyday life.

It's possible to make someone un-bigoted.

[Elbow]

You think with your heart more than you do your mind. That's admirable, but foolish. One day you will take off the rose colored glasses and see the world for what it is.

This is Islam
http://plancksconstant.org/blog1/image/sub5/mosaic-acid.jpg

Right. That's Islam.

[Echonova]

Have you read the Koran?Have you?


Unless you've read the Quran you have no room to talk.

Research it, read the Quran, then tell me if every single Muslim is as you describe. I have Muslim friends and have even dated two Muslims, I've yet to meet one on the extreme side. I've met more extreme Christians than Muslims. Somehow I doubt the "extreme Christian" thing... But if you've met 12 Timothy McVeigh's, then damn... You need a new group of friends. I've never met an extremist on either side.


But I do agree with you on the Muslim aspect. I have many Muslim friends and I try to be as respectful as I can to their religion (as I can, I have read the Quran, but not studied it as in depth as I would like) and they have always returned the favor in kind to my religion. We may disagree on the messenger, but at least we agree on the same higher power.


I don't think all Muslims are Islamic extremist... But you can't deny all Islam extremist's are Muslim (yes, I feel dumb even having to type that).

[Echonova]

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[Sinfix_15]

So by that logic, its ok to generalize an entire group of people based on the actions of a few, if that few causes other people suffering?

Is it ok if I said white people are filth?

I'm not basing my judgment on skin color. Practicing islam is a choice that people make. I judge them by the principles of their religion that they chose to be a part of. Every crime and action i criticize is an action by someone who claims they did it because of Islam.

Being white isnt a choice. Your analogy has no connection. Also, my stance against muslims is not bigotry. I have no prejudice, there is causation for my opinion. Or are we going to pretend that the majority of terrorism around the world isnt predominantly islamic?

[Sinfix_15]

Right. That's Islam.

I know, and yes it is. I'm sorry that your casual experiences with claim to be muslims makes you ignore the genocide taking place in countries that are predominantly islamic.

[Elbow]

I'm not basing my judgment on skin color. Practicing islam is a choice that people make. I judge them by the principles of their religion that they chose to be a part of. Every crime and action i criticize is an action by someone who claims they did it because of Islam.

Being white isnt a choice. Your analogy has no connection. Also, my stance against muslims is not bigotry. I have no prejudice, there is causation for my opinion. Or are we going to pretend that the majority of terrorism around the world isnt predominantly islamic?

Practicing Islam is a choice, BUT, not all people who practice Islam are extremists as you make them out to be. It's down right ignorant to think that. Is it fair to say Islam has the highest majority of extremists out of religious groups? Sure. BUT, that doesn't mean every Muslim is a terrorist or believes in the BS nonsense these people fight for.


I know, and yes it is. I'm sorry that your casual experiences with claim to be muslims makes you ignore the genocide taking place in countries that are predominantly islamic.

Casual experience with claim? What are you even talking about? You're saying the Muslims I know are just "fake" Muslims? lol I FULLY understand everything that goes on in those countries, what you fail to realize is that these extremists are just that, extremists, you show me straight from the Quran where it says half of these BS claims you find on Islamisthedevil.org.

To clarify a previous post, I didn't mean I know actual extremist Christians, I meant I knew more "Christians" that were more on the hostile/judging side than Muslims. I should not have used the word extremist.

[Sinfix_15]

Practicing Islam is a choice, BUT, not all people who practice Islam are extremists as you make them out to be. It's down right ignorant to think that. Is it fair to say Islam has the highest majority of extremists out of religious groups? Sure. BUT, that doesn't mean every Muslim is a terrorist or believes in the BS nonsense these people fight for.



Casual experience with claim? What are you even talking about? You're saying the Muslims I know are just "fake" Muslims? lol I FULLY understand everything that goes on in those countries, what you fail to realize is that these extremists are just that, extremists, you show me straight from the Quran where it says half of these BS claims you find on Islamisthedevil.org.

To clarify a previous post, I didn't mean I know actual extremist Christians, I meant I knew more "Christians" that were more on the hostile/judging side than Muslims. I should not have used the word extremist.


Obviously not 100% of all muslims are extremist. Most of the extremist on this planet are muslims. Most of the terrorists on this planet are muslims. The core values of Islam are extreme. The actions of islamic extremist are not radical individuals following their own path, they are following the instruction of their religious beliefs.

How many people have to die before islam can be criticized? does that number even exist for you? or will you always fall back on "theyre not all bad".

[Sinfix_15]

Nothing to see here.....

just a islamic wedding

http://www.bibleprobe.com/muslim-child-brides-tn.jpg

[Elbow]

Obviously not 100% of all muslims are extremist. Most of the extremist on this planet are muslims. Most of the terrorists on this planet are muslims. The core values of Islam are extreme. The actions of islamic extremist are not radical individuals following their own path, they are following the instruction of their religious beliefs.

How many people have to die before islam can be criticized? does that number even exist for you? or will you always fall back on "theyre not all bad".

I will never stoop down to a level where I judge a whole culture based on the extreme actions of some claiming to be within.

Read the Quran and study up, then get back to me if you want a serious debate.


Nothing to see here.....

just a islamic wedding

http://www.bibleprobe.com/muslim-child-brides-tn.jpg

Jesus you're stupid.

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I'm not basing my judgment on skin color. Practicing islam is a choice that people make. I judge them by the principles of their religion that they chose to be a part of. Every crime and action i criticize is an action by someone who claims they did it because of Islam.

Being white isnt a choice. Your analogy has no connection. Also, my stance against muslims is not bigotry. I have no prejudice, there is causation for my opinion. Or are we going to pretend that the majority of terrorism around the world isnt predominantly islamic?

You're making a hasty generalization, so can I make hasty generalizations too? Or is it only the generalizations you want to make?

All Islam is filth because a few have killed some people.

So all white people are filth because a few have killed some people

All Christians are filth because a few have killed some people.

[Elbow]

Anyone who doesn't like Obama is a fat redneck.

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Obviously not 100% of all muslims are extremist. Most of the extremist on this planet are muslims.Sounds like you're stating this as a fact. Source?


Most of the terrorists on this planet are muslims.Source?


How many people have to die before islam can be criticized? does that number even exist for you? or will you always fall back on "theyre not all bad".
More generalization

How many people have to die before being white can be criticized?

How many people have to die before being Christian can be criticized?

How many people have to die before being an American can be criticized?

[David88vert]

List of terrorist incidents - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents)

[Sinfix_15]

I will never stoop down to a level where I judge a whole culture based on the extreme actions of some claiming to be within.

Read the Quran and study up, then get back to me if you want a serious debate.



Jesus you're stupid.


I'm in the process of reading it. You gonna study with me? you gonna answer to the radical scripture??

Also, you must of thought that picture was a joke.... that actually is a wedding.... those men actually are marrying those underage girls. Why would you insult me for bringing this to your attention? you do realize that child marriage is a part of muslim culture right? as usual, your own ignorance is what causes hostility between us.

[Sinfix_15]

Sounds like you're stating this as a fact. Source?

Source?


More generalization

How many people have to die before being white can be criticized?

White people are criticized now even though they share a portion of negative statistics with 13% of the population. Being white isnt a choice, if you chose to criticize a person based on their skin color alone, you are a racist.


How many people have to die before being Christian can be criticized? Enough have already died, they deserve criticism today.


How many people have to die before being an American can be criticized? That number has been reached as well, proceed with the criticism.


Why do you feel like this is the type of shit that is going to make you win an argument over me? for someone who addresses my posts more than anyone else on this sight, you dont appear to read any of them. My views are as consistent as anyone you will ever meat. I am not selective in where i apply my beliefs. You keep trying to fit a square peg into a round whole when you paint me as your token conservative. I'm sorry you cant use your same tired ole "vs conservative redneck" argument here, you're gonna need new material. You on the other hand are very selective with what you believe. The topics you chose and chose not to stand up for says a lot about you.

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Anyone who doesn't like Obama is a fat redneck.

Obama's approval rating is dropping to historic levels. The numbers will paint him as the worst president in american history. Lot of fat rednecks in the world.

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White people are criticized now even though they share a portion of negative statistics with 13% of the population. Being white isnt a choice, if you chose to criticize a person based on their skin color alone, you are a racist.

Enough have already died, they deserve criticism today.

That number has been reached as well, proceed with the criticism.


Why do you feel like this is the type of shit that is going to make you win an argument over me? for someone who addresses my posts more than anyone else on this sight, you dont appear to read any of them. My views are as consistent as anyone you will ever meat. I am not selective in where i apply my beliefs. You keep trying to fit a square peg into a round whole when you paint me as your token conservative. I'm sorry you cant use your same tired ole "vs conservative redneck" argument here, you're gonna need new material. You on the other hand are very selective with what you believe. The topics you chose and chose not to stand up for says a lot about you.

You already lose the argument when you have to use logical fallacies and build straw men to support it. I'm just pointing it out to you.

And I'm not painting you as a token conservative anything. I don't think you've ever said anything remotely conservative

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You already lose the argument when you have to use logical fallacies and build straw men to support it. I'm just pointing it out to you.

And I'm not painting you as a token conservative anything. I don't think you've ever said anything remotely conservative

Let me summarize your argument for you.

Me - look at all of this murder, rape and terrorism in the name of islam. Look at the religious scriptures that endorse murder, rape and terrorism.

you - There's a lot of muslims, not all of them murder, rape or terrorize. People do not really follow the religion they follow. (insert token conservative insult here)

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Let me summarize your argument for you.

Me - look at all of this murder, rape and terrorism in the name of islam. Look at the religious scriptures that endorse murder, rape and terrorism.

you - There's a lot of muslims, not all of them murder, rape or terrorize. People do not really follow the religion they follow. (insert token conservative insult here)

And you're using a hasty generalization to support your own conclusion: Islam is filth.

So if I look at all the atrocities committed in the name of Christianity, could I make the argument that Christianity is filth and everyone who follows it?

If I look at all the atrocities committed in the name of being american, could I also say that being american is filth?

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And you're using a hasty generalization to support your own conclusion: Islam is filth.

Actually, "Islam is filth" is not a generalization. Perhaps my "conclusion" that all muslims are filth is a generalization. A statement that i say in anger, but have already admitted that i know 100% of muslims are not bad people. The religion they follow is filth. They are guilty of ignorance, at least.


So if I look at all the atrocities committed in the name of Christianity, could I make the argument that Christianity is filth and everyone who follows it?

Yes. Why do you feel i would answer any different? The modern day muslim has a lot in common with the crusading christian of the past. Society also has a pretty tight leash on christians and that leash remains long after the crusade has ended. There's a lot of questions and criticisms for christians to answer to.... i think a lot of christians are beginning to realize that. To my knowledge, i dont think there's an organized religion on this planet that i couldnt critique. Some more than others and Islam is easily and by extremely large margin at the top of that list.


If I look at all the atrocities committed in the name of being american, could I also say that being american is filth?

Being an american doesnt really constitute anything. America by design is a group of individuals. You can be american and muslim at the same time, even though those ideas are contradictory to each other. America is also structured in a manner to where it's ever changing. Certain administrations of government are filth. Certain eras of history were filth. It would be very hard to place blame on the "american idea" though. The constitution is pure. America by design is pure. The corrupt actions of americans throughout history were actions not defined by our constitution. Our current president and current elected officials do not follow the rules of "being an american". Islam clearly defines and endorses the criminal actions committed by islamic extremist. All of these terrorists are not breaking the rules of islam, they are the ones following the letter of the law.

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I'm in the process of reading it. You gonna study with me? you gonna answer to the radical scripture??

Also, you must of thought that picture was a joke.... that actually is a wedding.... those men actually are marrying those underage girls. Why would you insult me for bringing this to your attention? you do realize that child marriage is a part of muslim culture right? as usual, your own ignorance is what causes hostility between us.

Sure I will study it with you, make a thread and post DIRECT quotes from your readings, not that you found out of context on some anti-Islam site. You're so closed minded it's not even funny. You hate Muslims because some bad ones commit some bad crimes, sure the numbers are high, but Islam as a whole in its true form does not support these actions or encourage them.

Saying that marrying children is part of "Muslim culture" is the equivalent as me saying mortification is part of Christian culture.

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Sure I will study it with you, make a thread and post DIRECT quotes from your readings, not that you found out of context on some anti-Islam site. You're so closed minded it's not even funny. You hate Muslims because some bad ones commit some bad crimes, sure the numbers are high, but Islam as a whole in its true form does not support these actions or encourage them.

Saying that marrying children is part of "Muslim culture" is the equivalent as me saying mortification is part of Christian culture.

This is going to be an eye opening experience for you. I'll start a thread at some point this week. I'll make sure to link direct scriptures so you can reference them.

What you're doing is an honest mistake. You're guilty of exactly what you accuse me of. Your opinion of muslims is based on a good "sample" of them, my disdain for muslims i admit is also based on a bad "sample" of them, but upon further investigation, i learned that these islamic radicals are following the letter of the law defined by their religion. They are not rogue individuals. The religion itself is corrupt.

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This is going to be an eye opening experience for you. I'll start a thread at some point this week. I'll make sure to link direct scriptures so you can reference them.

What you're doing is an honest mistake. You're guilty of exactly what you accuse me of. Your opinion of muslims is based on a good "sample" of them, my disdain for muslims i admit is also based on a bad "sample" of them, but upon further investigation, i learned that these islamic radicals are following the letter of the law defined by their religion. They are not rogue individuals. The religion itself is corrupt.

I'm not basing my feelings on who I have met, I am basing them on what I felt from when I read the Quran and really studied into it. I even started taking Arabic. I felt confused with half the stuff I heard after 9/11 and years following so felt the need to look into it myself, not by reading peoples opinions or things they "think" to be true, but to find out and interpret it myself. The fact that I know some Muslims holds no real meaning here, it simply was said since you made it out at first to be that ALL Muslims were radicals.

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It's also ignorant for either of us to sit here and act like we can decipher Islam as a whole on a forum. There are many different areas in the religion that I have not even read on yet, it's not just one thing. Christianity is not just one thing.

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It's also ignorant for either of us to sit here and act like we can decipher Islam as a whole on a forum. There are many different areas in the religion that I have not even read on yet, it's not just one thing. Christianity is not just one thing.

To fully understand any religious work could take a lifetime depending on the person. We're not going to discover the mystery of the world by bantering back and forth over a forum, but deciphering some scripture could make for an interesting conversation. While i am going to shine a spot light on worst aspects of islam i can, i'll make sure the "islam thread" will not be a combative one like usual.

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To fully understand any religious work could take a lifetime depending on the person. We're not going to discover the mystery of the world by bantering back and forth over a forum, but deciphering some scripture could make for an interesting conversation. While i am going to shine a spot light on worst aspects of islam i can, i'll make sure the "islam thread" will not be a combative one like usual.

I look forward to it.

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Actually, "Islam is filth" is not a generalization. Perhaps my "conclusion" that all muslims are filth is a generalization. A statement that i say in anger, but have already admitted that i know 100% of muslims are not bad people. The religion they follow is filth. They are guilty of ignorance, at least.



Yes. Why do you feel i would answer any different? The modern day muslim has a lot in common with the crusading christian of the past. Society also has a pretty tight leash on christians and that leash remains long after the crusade has ended. There's a lot of questions and criticisms for christians to answer to.... i think a lot of christians are beginning to realize that. To my knowledge, i dont think there's an organized religion on this planet that i couldnt critique. Some more than others and Islam is easily and by extremely large margin at the top of that list.



Being an american doesnt really constitute anything. America by design is a group of individuals. You can be american and muslim at the same time, even though those ideas are contradictory to each other. America is also structured in a manner to where it's ever changing. Certain administrations of government are filth. Certain eras of history were filth. It would be very hard to place blame on the "american idea" though. The constitution is pure. America by design is pure. The corrupt actions of americans throughout history were actions not defined by our constitution. Our current president and current elected officials do not follow the rules of "being an american". Islam clearly defines and endorses the criminal actions committed by islamic extremist. All of these terrorists are not breaking the rules of islam, they are the ones following the letter of the law.

As long as you understand that all of this is a generalization and your own opinion. Not fact. It doesn't matter one bit to me that you're trying to justify your bigotry, only that you understand that's what you're doing.

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As long as you understand that all of this is a generalization and your own opinion. Not fact. It doesn't matter one bit to me that you're trying to justify your bigotry, only that you understand that's what you're doing.

It's not bigotry. Perhaps you should understand the word you're using.

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It's not bigotry. Perhaps you should understand the word you're using.

Bigotry. I understand what it is. I used the right word.

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Bigotry. I understand what it is. I used the right word.

Clearly you dont. You openly bash anything you see fit, then claim victim status when someone bashes something you support. Are your views towards christianity bigotry?

Also, i'm more than aware that you're an ignorant douche, i have been aware of this for a while now, but if you still feel the need to confirm this to me, do it in the correct thread.

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Clearly you dont. You openly bash anything you see fit, then claim victim status when someone bashes something you support. Are your views towards christianity bigotry?

Also, i'm more than aware that you're an ignorant douche, i have been aware of this for a while now, but if you still feel the need to confirm this to me, do it in the correct thread.

Definitely using the right word. My views on Christianity aren't bigotry. Mainly because I don't judge the whole based on the actions of the few

I don't need to confirm you're being a bigot anymore. Its not really up for debate. I've told you one time. That should be enough. You want to use sweeping generalizations to demonize an entire group of people, that's your prerogative. I'm just letting you know when you do that, its the textbook definition of bigotry. That's my last word on the issue, and I'm making a mention to the mods to delete the other thread since I can't do it myself.

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Definitely using the right word. My views on Christianity aren't bigotry. Mainly because I don't judge the whole based on the actions of the few

I don't need to confirm you're being a bigot anymore. Its not really up for debate. I've told you one time. That should be enough. You want to use sweeping generalizations to demonize an entire group of people, that's your prerogative. I'm just letting you know when you do that, its the textbook definition of bigotry. That's my last word on the issue, and I'm making a mention to the mods to delete the other thread since I can't do it myself.

alright captain save a hoe. I realize your feelings have been hurt. I'm sorry you're such a pussy.

I find it hilarious for you to be so butt hurt about an islam debate when there's 100 page threads of relentless christian bashing on this forum. Way to be a hypocrite.

Everything i have said or will say about Islam will come with direct quotes from the Quran. What are you so scared of? Why is this such a sensitive issue for you? There's clearly some personal connection here, you're unusually butt hurt and starting to come unraveled. I find it amusing.

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Is it ok if I said white people are filth?

Sure its okay to say that. Freedom of speech and personal beliefs. Personally I think the world population as a collective whole is filth. We are such a fucked up species that we will never change.

I agree with Sinfix to a degree. I dont have any qualms with Muslims themselves but the religion itself has very demeaning and fucked up directions.

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