Cant decide on a new mud toy, input needed.

[Sinfix_15]

Last time i did one of these polls, the options were a pathfinder, samurai and Raider. The people picked the samurai, i ignored them and got the pathfinder... which wasnt a horrible decision, my pathfinder turned out great and i had a lot of fun with it.... but in hindsight, the samurai was probably the right decision.....

So now it's time for another mud toy and again, i cant make up my mind and would like the people's opinion.

The options......

Jeep CJ
http://image.jpmagazine.com/f/18952590%20w750%20st0/154_0907_08_z%20readers_jeep_pictures%201972_cj5.j pg
Jeep Wranger YJ
http://www.offroaders.com/tech/jeep/images/wrangler-yj-1.jpg
Suzuki Samurai
http://images.craigslist.org/3Ee3tf3K95Lc5Eb5Mbd6n6a7c917e551d12d8.jpg
K5 Blazer
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSfkBtNamW6GOvSzmkpBOrG2ZW0sV9C6 XAZ9HoeaUssie_NDw21cw
International scout
http://www.infinitegarage.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/International-Scout.png

[D3UC3S]

CJ is cool but it has a shitty drivetrain.

Sammy's are great but only with yota axles

YJ is good, make sure to do the vaccum 4wd bypass

Good luck finding a scout that's worth a shit

Fuck the K5....too big

Stick with a Jeep man.

[Scotsman]

scout all the way

[-EnVus-]

No Bronco II WTF

[MUDSLINGER]

get a pre-95 toyota pickup/sr5/hilux. had one as my first car and was my favorite vehicle ive ever had. did great in the trails and in the mud.

[D3UC3S]

No Bronco II WTF

Yep....gonna need that man card back. I believe it's in your wife's purse....yep, right over there.

[MUDSLINGER]

246669

[-EnVus-]

Yep....gonna need that man card back. I believe it's in your wife's purse....yep, right over there.

Rellrrry ??


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-59lhaJJJJ4

[D3UC3S]

I mean sure it has 4wd....but it's the donkey of the offroad community.

[Sinfix_15]

I like the bronco 2s and yotas.... but there is kind of a theme going with my options.....


I'll give you a hint.....



http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-2008/2008-Rolls-Royce-Phantom-Drophead-Coupe-Lowering-Convertible-Top-3-1600x1200.jpg

[Sinfix_15]

The cjs i'm looking at are all chevy powered, so that erases the drivetrain issue....

So far i'm leaning towards a Jeep or a K5

especially if i was lucky enough to find a 70s model


http://www.americancarcollector.com/images/stories/1972-Chevrolet-K5-Blazer-1.jpg
http://www.zrxoa.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=129048&stc=1&d=1261431436
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8178/8006082242_85c51eadf6_h.jpg
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQsD4DQ4QtFNSujt9gIcZ2NjUtuRaaV_ nUjQtuiFkb9_vj2KaHE

[Sinfix_15]

gave this particular bronco a 2nd glance..... but ultimately, whatever it is has to be topless.

http://images.craigslist.org/00J0J_3i7YvXLDMKx_600x450.jpg

[MUDSLINGER]

get a 86-90 4 RUNNER then. most of them came with cloth tops.

[MUDSLINGER]

246683

[D3UC3S]

Yea the four runners are sweet!

Why do you wanna go muddin? You know how bad that shit is for your rig? Get something that crawls rocks. Mud is the worst.

[Sinfix_15]

Yea the four runners are sweet!

Why do you wanna go muddin? You know how bad that shit is for your rig? Get something that crawls rocks. Mud is the worst.

"mud toy" is just a generic phrase for 4x4, i dont really go mudding... if there's mud, there's mud... but i dont go looking for it. I trail ride and drive to fishing/hunting/camping spots and encounter some mud along the way.

The 4 runner is something i looked at, but in the end, i just dont really care for how they look.

[D3UC3S]

I can dig it!

Get a YJ man. So much easier to work on. You can find good ones for 5K.

[Sinfix_15]

I can dig it!

Get a YJ man. So much easier to work on. You can find good ones for 5K.

Are the YJs as "rugged" as a CJ? newer jeeps scare me.... i've seen so many random cluster fuck electrical problems with newer jeeps. I want something that can get rained in, get wet and dirty and not have to worry about walking home.

[Sinfix_15]

thoughts on this specific truck, finger on the trigger to buy it.... those tires are 40"
http://images.craigslist.org/01717_97og5I7qXfj_600x450.jpg

[D3UC3S]

YJ is rugged as hell. It's the same as a CJ but has a longer wheel base, wider(safer), and the same electrical problems as a CJ.

I have never had carpet in any of my jeeps and driven in the rain with no top or doors. Jeeps are not about creature comforts. It's about no top, no doors, and waving to other jeeps. Also every douche bag guy in a minivan or compact wants to be you.

[D3UC3S]

K5s are cool but they are so big and and suck gas like a motherfucker. Have you priced replacement 40's? Not fun.

If you do it, check the driveshaft ujoints and axle seals(pretty much standard for any rig that has been in mud).

[Sinfix_15]

YJ is rugged as hell. It's the same as a CJ but has a longer wheel base, wider(safer), and the same electrical problems as a CJ.

I have never had carpet in any of my jeeps and driven in the rain with no top or doors. Jeeps are not about creature comforts. It's about no top, no doors, and waving to other jeeps. Also every douche bag guy in a minivan or compact wants to be you.

yeah, fuck the carpet and the cruise control..... if you dont want a jeep, then buy a ford explorer.

what do you think about that last K5? seriously thinking about buying that one this weekend.

[D3UC3S]

See last post

[D3UC3S]

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt259/nathanschieber/null_zps9850bced.png

[Sinfix_15]

K5s are cool but they are so big and and suck gas like a motherfucker. Have you priced replacement 40's? Not fun.

If you do it, check the driveshaft ujoints and axle seals(pretty much standard for any rig that has been in mud).

When the time came to replace the 40s, id probably remove the lift and go with a normal sized tire. I prefer the smaller tire trucks myself. That K5 looks cool, but nothing something id spend a lot of money to make that way or keep that way.

My ideal truck looks something like this... tire wise... i like the skinnier offroad tires, i dont see a need for the big ass wide monsters...

http://www.jeepforum.com/gallery/data/8/medium/jeep_0061.jpg

[D3UC3S]

What happens if one pops? Gotta think about that, especially if you are in the middle of the woods. Can't limp out with a 33". Will blow out your rear end....no homo

[Sinfix_15]

What happens if one pops? Gotta think about that, especially if you are in the middle of the woods. Can't limp out with a 33". Will blow out your rear end....no homo

Patch that mofo. If i got a truck with that severe of a lift, id probably keep 2 spare tires.

[Sinfix_15]

so $5-600 a tire... chump change..lol

[D3UC3S]

Lol exactly.

[Echonova]

I had a '75 K5, 7 inches of lift 38" super-swampers. Loved that damn thing, except for the fact you need 4 grown men to remove the top. One day after several beers (and a sawzall) we fixed that factory defect. Cut it behind the drivers seat, threw the back half away. Had a tonneau cover from a marine boat cover complete with chevy bowtie shaped plastic rear window.



Unfortunately it wouldn't fit on any rental car trailer when I moved to Arizona. So I "sold" it to a (would be) friend of mine who never finished paying me for it.

[D3UC3S]

I helped a buddy lift a 77 and throw in a 400 SB and it was great but kept throwing ujoint caps and it was a PITA. Especially at 65mph on the highway.

[-EnVus-]

Take a Suzuki with the right setup and no mud can't stop you and it will fit trails also. A k5 is nice if you want to go cheap but it is only good for mud not climbing or trail rides...

[Echonova]

Take a Suzuki with the right setup and no mud can't stop you and it will fit trails also. A k5 is nice if you want to go cheap but it is only good for mud not climbing or trail rides...Yup.












http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e33/cegusman/Wheeling%20pics/Local%20Wheeling/Wheeling9-30-06012.jpg (http://s36.photobucket.com/user/cegusman/media/Wheeling%20pics/Local%20Wheeling/Wheeling9-30-06012.jpg.html)
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e33/cegusman/Wheeling%20pics/2-4-7%20Broken%20rear%20spring/Picture032.jpg (http://s36.photobucket.com/user/cegusman/media/Wheeling%20pics/2-4-7%20Broken%20rear%20spring/Picture032.jpg.html)
http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x378/Echonova3/p70212_large20Chevrolet_K5_Blazer20Rear_View_zpsbc 064556.jpg (http://s1178.photobucket.com/user/Echonova3/media/p70212_large20Chevrolet_K5_Blazer20Rear_View_zpsbc 064556.jpg.html)
http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x378/Echonova3/p70191_large20Chevrolet_K5_Blazer20Front_Passenger _Side_zpsb4e8ecbf.jpg (http://s1178.photobucket.com/user/Echonova3/media/p70191_large20Chevrolet_K5_Blazer20Front_Passenger _Side_zpsb4e8ecbf.jpg.html)

[Sinfix_15]

At this point, unless something really good pops up.... looks like im goin with the K5 blazer

[C230K]

Get a jeep wrangler and call it a day, I enjoyed my TJ, I sold it to my cousin in New Orleans and is enjoying the shit out of it

[Sinfix_15]

This thread is now changed to the "talk me out of buying a K5 thread".....

If you have insight or info on why not to buy a K5, please voice those concerns. The K5 i'm expecting to buy is the red one i posted a picture of last page.

[Echonova]

This thread is now changed to the "talk me out of buying a K5 thread".....

If you have insight or info on why not to buy a K5, please voice those concerns. The K5 i'm expecting to buy is the red one i posted a picture of last page.The only negatives I can see about the one you posted is you cannot do any serious wheeling until you downsize the tires. You get any articulation and those tires are going to be eating sheet metal. That being said, drive it until it needs new tires and then downsize to something a little more practical/usable.

[Sinfix_15]

The only negatives I can see about the one you posted is you cannot do any serious wheeling until you downsize the tires. You get any articulation and those tires are going to be eating sheet metal. That being said, drive it until it needs new tires and then downsize to something a little more practical/usable.

yeah, i dig the way it looks.... but im pretty sure those tires will be for sale day 1.

[Sinfix_15]

now this is about perfect... as far as fitment goes.

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s242/wheels78ta/87%20Blazer/DSC_0351.jpg
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s242/wheels78ta/87%20Blazer/DSC_0006-2.jpg

[Sinfix_15]

supposed to have this delivered to me this weekend. As long as everything goes as planned, this will be my new mud toy.

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s268/Virtutis/jeepcj1_zps70d6abfa.jpg (http://s154.photobucket.com/user/Virtutis/media/jeepcj1_zps70d6abfa.jpg.html)

[D3UC3S]

Hell yes! What axles/engine?

[Sinfix_15]

Hell yes! What axles/engine?

304 v8, factory axles i believe

[Sinfix_15]

well, looks like the hunt is still on. That last jeep that i posted, a tree limb fell on it. It busted the top, broke the windshield and windshield frame.

[D3UC3S]

1986 Toyota FJ60 (http://midgaoffroad.com/smf/index.php?topic=2551.msg50793;boardseen#new)

Get it or die! Good guy that knows his shit.

[D3UC3S]

99 TJ (http://midgaoffroad.com/smf/index.php?topic=2538.0)

Here's another one. May be gone because the price is so awesome. Built 99 TJ for less than 4k

[Sinfix_15]

I'm a little bummed out now, i had my heart set on that one.

[D3UC3S]

You sound like my wife. All pissed and shitty assed over something it's impossible to have. Even with two awesome choices in your face, still pouting about the impossible.... Lol

Sack up my man and get a bad ass off road rig. That TJ is bad as fuck. And ready to go to MOAB as it sits for cheap as hell.

[Sinfix_15]

You sound like my wife. All pissed and shitty assed over something it's impossible to have. Even with two awesome choices in your face, still pouting about the impossible.... Lol

Sack up my man and get a bad ass off road rig. That TJ is bad as fuck. And ready to go to MOAB as it sits for cheap as hell.

Cant get a TJ, the interior looks like a bag of vaginas.

[Sinfix_15]

Good
http://www.jeepz.com/forum/attachments/items-sale-trade-give-away/1458d1219642292-1995-jeep-wrangler-inside.jpg
Better
http://image.4wdandsportutility.com/f/8583327/0702_4wd_14_z+1984_jeep_cj_8+interior.jpg
Get that bullshit out of my face
http://image.jpmagazine.com/f/29258276/154_1011_07_o+154_1011_two_bits_wrangler+jeep_tj_i nterior_cockpit.jpg

[D3UC3S]

Hahahaha. If you could get past that, the TJ has some really, really nice parts on it. And for less than 4k. Hurts me not getting it.

[Sinfix_15]

Hahahaha. If you could get past that, the TJ has some really, really nice parts on it. And for less than 4k. Hurts me not getting it.


I cant get past it.... its too awful.

[Sinfix_15]

well, as long as nothing else crazy happens....... I'll be buying this Jeep sunday. It comes with the half top or whatever its called in the pic, the standard cloth top and a hard top

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s268/Virtutis/PART_1377292950287_zpsbf73c8ba.jpg (http://s154.photobucket.com/user/Virtutis/media/PART_1377292950287_zpsbf73c8ba.jpg.html)

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s268/Virtutis/PART_1377297159400_zps8f8a610d.jpg (http://s154.photobucket.com/user/Virtutis/media/PART_1377297159400_zps8f8a610d.jpg.html)

[D3UC3S]

Sweet man! I had a red YJ and loved it. It was a 4 cyl pig tho.

[Sinfix_15]

Sweet man! I had a red YJ and loved it. It was a 4 cyl pig tho.

This one is a 4 banger too.... The powerplant i want is a 4 banger... but not the little 2.5 AMC....

I want to do a 4BT swap. Theyre fairly cheap too.
http://image.fourwheeler.com/f/37007728+w600+h400+re0+cr1+ar0/129_1205_05%2Bnot_so_mellow_yellow%2B4bt_cummind_d iesel

[Echonova]

well, as long as nothing else crazy happens....... I'll be buying this Jeep sunday. It comes with the half top or whatever its called in the pic, the standard cloth top and a hard top

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s268/Virtutis/PART_1377292950287_zpsbf73c8ba.jpg (http://s154.photobucket.com/user/Virtutis/media/PART_1377292950287_zpsbf73c8ba.jpg.html)

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s268/Virtutis/PART_1377297159400_zps8f8a610d.jpg (http://s154.photobucket.com/user/Virtutis/media/PART_1377297159400_zps8f8a610d.jpg.html)Honestly, I'm not feeling it. Looks like every other Jeep that you see on 285 that is "modified" to go off road, but you know it never has.

[D3UC3S]

Hahahaha


OH SNAP

[Sinfix_15]

Honestly, I'm not feeling it. Looks like every other Jeep that you see on 285 that is "modified" to go off road, but you know it never has.

I'm not in love with how it sits either. Soon as start posting pics of it dirty as shit with the top and doors off, you'll warm up to it.

[Sinfix_15]

Got the jeep today....... it was way too clean for my liking. so i went out to the hunting land and corrected that issue.
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s268/Virtutis/013_zps7ebbecd9.jpg (http://s154.photobucket.com/user/Virtutis/media/013_zps7ebbecd9.jpg.html)
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s268/Virtutis/015_zps8d1f8077.jpg (http://s154.photobucket.com/user/Virtutis/media/015_zps8d1f8077.jpg.html)
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s268/Virtutis/016_zps4ca91b8a.jpg (http://s154.photobucket.com/user/Virtutis/media/016_zps4ca91b8a.jpg.html)

[Echonova]

You were right, it does look better.

[Sinfix_15]

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s268/Virtutis/012_zpsdfeb968f.jpg (http://s154.photobucket.com/user/Virtutis/media/012_zpsdfeb968f.jpg.html)
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s268/Virtutis/007_zpsde3f4307.jpg (http://s154.photobucket.com/user/Virtutis/media/007_zpsde3f4307.jpg.html)

[Sinfix_15]

previous owner had some stereo crap in it. I'm gonna be pulling all of that garbage out modifying the dash to be as waterproof as possible.

[D3UC3S]

I have a complete CB setup you can get for 60 bux. Has absolutely everything you need.

[Sinfix_15]

I have a complete CB setup you can get for 60 bux. Has absolutely everything you need.

I dont want any electronics in it. I'm gonna remove everything that doesnt make the truck drive and then work on sealing up the dash.

[D3UC3S]

Why? You plan on scuba diving with it?

It's a jeep dude, you don't need to seal up the dash. I sprayed my shit out with water all the time. Just made sure not to hit the radio directly. Also had it buried dash deep in water. No problemos dude.

If you ever plan on riding with someone else it's a must to have a CB. You don't have recovery gear from what I can see and getting stuck by yourself all the time is a bitch.

[Sinfix_15]

Why? You plan on scuba diving with it?

It's a jeep dude, you don't need to seal up the dash. I sprayed my shit out with water all the time. Just made sure not to hit the radio directly. Also had it buried dash deep in water. No problemos dude.

If you ever plan on riding with someone else it's a must to have a CB. You don't have recovery gear from what I can see and getting stuck by yourself all the time is a bitch.

Previous owner left me a rat's nest that makes me nervous. There's a ton of bad wiring i'm gonna have to trace, so i figured i might as well do a few things while i'm in the dash.

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s268/Virtutis/002_zpse5873810.jpg (http://s154.photobucket.com/user/Virtutis/media/002_zpse5873810.jpg.html)

[D3UC3S]

Lol. Welcome to the Jeep world!!!

My YJ would shut the radio off when I turned the headlights on.... Go figure

[Sinfix_15]

I want this top so bad.....

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc163/jscherb/Gaucho/Safari/Final3.jpg

[D3UC3S]

You have a jeep, not an FJ..


Ricer

[Sinfix_15]

You have a jeep, not an FJ..


Ricer

That top is gansta as shit!!!!

I want that top, and this pull behind. Then i'll be road trippin like a mofo.
http://images.craigslist.org/00A0A_gjVHv19YpbN_600x450.jpg

or this...
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc163/jscherb/Trailer/SafariCabCamper.jpg

[Sinfix_15]

You really dont like this top??!?!?!?
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc163/jscherb/Gaucho/Safari/SafariAndFC.jpg
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc163/jscherb/Gaucho/Safari/Obstacle3.jpg

[D3UC3S]

That pull behind is nice but that top just screams "I couldn't afford a vintage FJ or landie, so I slung this top on my YJ"

Just my humble .02

[Sinfix_15]

That pull behind is nice but that top just screams "I couldn't afford a vintage FJ or landie, so I slung this top on my YJ"

Just my humble .02

Why you gotta crush my dreams?

I've always loved the way land rovers look, but i wouldnt trade a good pair of shoes for a used land rover. Theyre probably the most worthless vehicles ever made. It's a toss up between the rover and the grand cherokee for worst vehicle of all time.

The top cost over $4k, so i know i'm never gonna buy that...... i stumbled across it looking for pull behind campers, that's what i'm really shopping for. Something like a teardrop that is off road worthy.
https://s-media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/5f/7d/8d/5f7d8d365218b31974166f2ca412fbf0.jpg

[D3UC3S]

I have a '99 grand Cherokee in the garage...

Who's crushing who's dreams now?

The off road campers are so badass and worth their weight in gold!

[Sinfix_15]

I have a '99 grand Cherokee in the garage...

Who's crushing who's dreams now?

The off road campers are so badass and worth their weight in gold!

Well damn..... a JGC and a starion.... dont worry, if the zombie invasion ever happens i'll come pick you up. I'll provide the get away vehicle and the arsenal of weaponry, you bring the garden fresh veggies, we'll swing by and get Echo for the BBQ grill and his infinite wisdom that we'll need to continue surviving.

[D3UC3S]

Hahahahahahaha

We could make cool weapons out of the sheet metal.

[Sinfix_15]

buyers remorse.............

I want a damn TJ and i want it to be cintron green


like so
http://images.craigslist.org/01414_iu1wfRoQFJV_600x450.jpg

[D3UC3S]

Lol