Importatlanta NFL FANTASY FOOTBALL 13-14 SEASON OFFICIAL THREAD

[BanginJimmy]

Be careful wth AP this week. Bears defense is not going to respect Ponder and will leave the corners in man to man coverage with MAYBE 1 high safety, everyone else will be in the box to make sure its Ponder that beats them.

[Sinfix_15]

I like Pryor over Rapelisburger

Part of the benefit of having Tom Brady is that you dont need a backup. Having Pryor as a backup is like having a doughnut spare on the back of a tank.

[BanginJimmy]

Someone trade me a TE.

I have Eifert and will throw in Roddy White also for the right deal.

[Sinfix_15]

Someone trade me a TE.

I have Eifert and will throw in Roddy White also for the right deal.


hmmmm..... TEs... wonder where you could find one of those.

[BanginJimmy]

Countered you. I think you will like it.

Unless you give me something huge, Seattle defense isnt going anywhere.

[Sinfix_15]

Countered you. I think you will like it.

Unless you give me something huge, Seattle defense isnt going anywhere.

Any trade i make will have to include the Seattle defense.

[BanginJimmy]

Any trade i make will have to include the Seattle defense.

Well, you do have a RB I wouldnt mind getting my hands on. He's the only player on your roster I would let Seattle go for.

[Sinfix_15]

Well, you do have a RB I wouldnt mind getting my hands on. He's the only player on your roster I would let Seattle go for.

As long as you're talking about the one in the flex spot, we might could arrange something.

[BanginJimmy]

As long as you're talking about the one in the flex spot, we might could arrange something.

Yea, I'm not.

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[Sinfix_15]

Yea, I'm not.

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There's no way i would trade either RB for any defense. Both of those RBs are avg top 10 draft picks. No defense in the NFL is worth trading a 1st tier RB for. Seahawks avg draft position, 84th.

Average Draft Position (ADP) - Fantasy Football 2013 (http://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/adp/overall.php)

[BanginJimmy]

There's no way i would trade either RB for any defense. Both of those RBs are avg top 10 draft picks. No defense in the NFL is worth trading a 1st tier RB for. Seahawks avg draft position, 84th.

Average Draft Position (ADP) - Fantasy Football 2013 (http://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/adp/overall.php)

Never expected you to do that one. Its about value though. I am solid at RB and weak on defense. Going to cost you a lot more to weaken me at defense than my counter which will actually project to be in your favor by about 80 points through the season.

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[Sinfix_15]

Never expected you to do that one. Its about value though. I am solid at RB and weak on defense. Going to cost you a lot more to weaken me at defense than my counter which will actually project to be in your favor by about 80 points through the season.

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Your biggest weak spot is TE, i have the best TE you could possibly get. Not to mention, when we face in the playoffs, your #1 pick is going to be throwing to two players on my team. Your chances of beating me with Manning at QB when i have 1/2 of Manning's targets is pretty slim.

Last year the #1 defense didnt even rank in the top 25 of points scored. In 2012, Eric Decker scored more fantasy points than the Seahawks defense.

[BanginJimmy]

Your biggest weak spot is TE, i have the best TE you could possibly get. Not to mention, when we face in the playoffs, your #1 pick is going to be throwing to two players on my team. Your chances of beating me with Manning at QB when i have 1/2 of Manning's targets is pretty slim.

Last year the #1 defense didnt even rank in the top 25 of points scored. In 2012, Eric Decker scored more fantasy points than the Seahawks defense.

Its not about total points though. Its about point differential between what you give up and what you get. My TEs aren't good but the point differential doesn't work in my favor.

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[BanginJimmy]

Trade sent your way Sin.

[Sinfix_15]

Trade sent your way Sin.

Cant do it, it down grades me at every position. Luck > Rg3, Mccoy > Charles, Thomas > no name TE


Thomas is on my team specifically to beat you. Not giving em up for peanuts.

[BanginJimmy]

Cant do it, it down grades me at every position. Luck > Rg3, Mccoy > Charles, Thomas > no name TE


Thomas is on my team specifically to beat you. Not giving em up for peanuts.


RGIII puts up better fantasy stats, who cares what his W/L record is.

I agree with McCoy vs Charles, but the difference isnt huge.

Thomas was a no name before last week. Eifert will take over the top TE spot in Cinci this year. I just cant afford to wait for it to happen.

[Sinfix_15]

I guess i'll let Thomas put up a few more 20+ point games and then we'll step back to the negotiating table.

[Vteckidd]

I'll trade Gronk or witten

[Jdm94Coupe]

1000 catches during the season < 1 drop that cost you the superbowl

We are talking fantasy man. Name another slot receiver better for fantasy, lets say for the past 5 years or so...... funny you guys have turned your backs on him so fast


Giants will remember Manningham for 1 catch , they will forget about anything else he did

The Incredible Mario Manningham Sideline Catch Superbowl XLVI 2012 NY Giants - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfVPcg6MkmQ)

again motha lova's ..... we are talking fantasy.....

btw side note..... i had a bad spending month and might wanna do some shit to my truck....

anybody interested in a lenovo ideacentre a730 ....... used for a week (FRYS.comL|LLENOVO (http://www.frys.com/product/7706538?source=googleps&gclid=CKyK24CEyLkCFQto7AodBnYAAQ))

or a sony vaio pro 13 bnib

lmk..... 404-934-1594 ..... i'll work you guys a IA steal

[Vteckidd]

Ugliest game ever.

Hope we call up ocho moss and TO

[Sammich]

did bangin and sin ever find a trade worth doing?

[Sinfix_15]

We are talking fantasy man. Name another slot receiver better for fantasy, lets say for the past 5 years or so...... funny you guys have turned your backs on him so fast



again motha lova's ..... we are talking fantasy.....

btw side note..... i had a bad spending month and might wanna do some shit to my truck....

anybody interested in a lenovo ideacentre a730 ....... used for a week (FRYS.comL|LLENOVO (http://www.frys.com/product/7706538?source=googleps&gclid=CKyK24CEyLkCFQto7AodBnYAAQ))

or a sony vaio pro 13 bnib

lmk..... 404-934-1594 ..... i'll work you guys a IA steal

I wasnt talking fantasy.....

yeah, Welker is great for fantasy. I believe myself and Vteck were both talking about his real world legacy.

[Sinfix_15]

did bangin and sin ever find a trade worth doing?

Not at this time.

[Sammich]

nevermind i thought i had 2 good TEs i was about to make a trade. that was my other league i was looking at

[Vteckidd]

Better grab Bradshaw. Ballard tore acl

[Sammich]

lol yep

[BanginJimmy]

Thanks for the heads up. I snagged him. Now I have a solid #3 RB to trade for a TE.

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[Vteckidd]

Thanks for the heads up. I snagged him. Now I have a solid #3 RB to trade for a TE.

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I wasnt willing to give up anyone for him, figured someone could use him :)

Ill trade you Witten for Eddie Lacy

[Sinfix_15]

dammit.... i was gonna get bradshaw after i moved a TE out of the way

[BanginJimmy]

I wasnt willing to give up anyone for him, figured someone could use him :)

Ill trade you Witten for Eddie Lacy

Sent it over to you.

[BanginJimmy]

This is one of VERY few reasons it sucks not working behind a desk. Hard to keep up to these things.

[Vteckidd]

Sent it over to you.

not till monday, I cant play GRONK obviously and have no other TE. Gronk will be back week 3

[Vteckidd]

This is one of VERY few reasons it sucks not working behind a desk. Hard to keep up to these things.

Twitter doe, instant alerts

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[Sinfix_15]

The waiver wire sure has been picked clean. Not much out there.

Looking to trade for a quality defense.


This week i am starting the Oakland Raiders defense...................... for no other reason than realizing how god awful terrible the Jaguars are. I am a Jaguars fan............ do you know how depressing it is for your strategy to be "start any defense that is playing your own team".

[BanginJimmy]

not till monday, I cant play GRONK obviously and have no other TE. Gronk will be back week 3

Even though I can really use him right now, I can wait.

[BanginJimmy]

The waiver wire sure has been picked clean. Not much out there.

Looking to trade for a quality defense.


This week i am starting the Oakland Raiders defense...................... for no other reason than realizing how god awful terrible the Jaguars are. I am a Jaguars fan............ do you know how depressing it is for your strategy to be "start any defense that is playing your own team".

Waiver wire is clean of any value. There is always someone that no one saw coming that blows up around midseason. Usually someone getting their shot because of injury.


Send me an offer for the Ravens D. They are better than they looked week 1 and they have a decent schedule.

[quickdodge®]

That Julio Jones guy just got me a 40+ and a 50+ point bonus, lolol. Glad we added that to the scoring, Mike.

[Vteckidd]

Yeah I have Julio in my other league :)

Uhhhh rejecting that witten for lacy trade lol.

Can Stephen fucking Jackson stay healthy god

[BanginJimmy]

That Julio Jones guy just got me a 40+ and a 50+ point bonus, lolol. Glad we added that to the scoring, Mike.


Damnit. We have been projected close all game. That may have been the dagger in my chances. Lacy going down on his first carry hurt bad.



Yeah I have Julio in my other league :)

Uhhhh rejecting that witten for lacy trade lol.

Can Stephen fucking Jackson stay healthy god

Why you gotta be like that? Does your word mean nothing?

I have bradshaw sitting on the bench having a very solid game.

Health is why I passed on Jackson.

[Vteckidd]

I have a feeling im going to be 0-2.

Hope drew Bree's is tame

[quickdodge®]

That may have been the dagger in my chances.

I'm looking at Manning being your Phoenix, though, dude.

[BanginJimmy]

Im looking good in my money leagues but I think you have me today.

[Sinfix_15]

Damnit. We have been projected close all game. That may have been the dagger in my chances. Lacy going down on his first carry hurt bad.




Why you gotta be like that? Does your word mean nothing?

I have bradshaw sitting on the bench having a very solid game.

Health is why I passed on Jackson.

Dont worry, Sin to the rescue. I sent you a trade over to fill your injury void..... since i'm such a nice guy.

[Sinfix_15]

Good thing the Jaguars dont have Tebow, wouldnt want him bringing this franchise down.

[BanginJimmy]

Dont worry, Sin to the rescue. I sent you a trade over to fill your injury void..... since i'm such a nice guy.

not moving the seattle defense.

[Vteckidd]

THANK YOU MEGATRON

[Sinfix_15]

not moving the seattle defense.

c'mon..................... It's not like the Seahawks play the worst team in the history of the NFL next week.

[DarKStaR]

Im pissing in the wind this week smh

[Vteckidd]

HOw did the falcons lose to this saints team LOL

Drew Brees is BONING me in my other league.

[Sinfix_15]

Double digits on all of my bench players today.

[Vteckidd]

Double digits on all of my bench players today.

i saw, your bench was sick nasty.

[Vteckidd]

Im looking good in my money leagues but I think you have me today.

oh and i was JK, as soon as i confirm GRONK is active, ill do the trade.

[Sinfix_15]

C'mon Jimmy, this Seahawks defense doesnt look so tough. So theyre stopping a sophomore QB... big whoop.

[Vteckidd]

best defense i have seen this year so far. FO SHO

[BanginJimmy]

C'mon Jimmy, this Seahawks defense doesnt look so tough. So theyre stopping a sophomore QB... big whoop.

Who couldn't hope Kaep to 3 points through 3 quarters.

Oh and hd Boldin to no catches and Frank Gore to like 20 yards.

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[Sinfix_15]

Who couldn't hope Kaep to 3 points through 3 quarters.

Oh and hd Boldin to no catches and Frank Gore to like 20 yards.

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It's pretty scary actually..... you're probably gonna get 75 fantasy points from them when they play Jax

[Echonova]

Man.............................................. "F"-Calvin Johnson.


That's all I'm sayin'

[Vteckidd]

Sseattle DEEEEFENCE bailing me out of my other league. I was down 27 points, they got me 22 so far. Hope they dont give up a meaningless score to SF (Dude im playing has SF Def)

Ill need Law Firm to win it all for me tomorrow lol

[BanginJimmy]

I benched the Seattle defense in a couple leagues because they were playing SF. Bad choice.

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[DarKStaR]

I had boldin and davis in another league where i was 20 points behind.....you can guess what happened...

[Sammich]

I have a feeling im going to be 0-2.

Hope drew Bree's is tame

Brees has me against the ropes in one of my leagues..my opponent has AJ Green as his WR..i'm nervous

[Sammich]

:ninja:

[Vteckidd]

OMG, A FORUM?

[Sinfix_15]

http://images.ftw.usatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/robryansad.gif

[Sammich]

LMFAOOO

[Vteckidd]

THINGS I WILL TRADE

Danny Amendola
Leveon bell
Gio Bernard
Torrey Smith
Texans DEF

things i want

Better DEF

[Sinfix_15]

WTT

Andre Johnson, Bears Defense, CJ Spiller/Fred Jackson

for

single player upgrade at WR or RB

[Vteckidd]

WTT

Andre Johnson, Bears Defense, CJ Spiller/Fred Jackson

for

single player upgrade at WR or RB

gimme dat Bears defense for Torrey Smith, and the Texans D. that way you have a plug an play with D , and Torrey smith is a 9-10 point per game reciever (except for this past week)

Will think on AJ

[Vteckidd]

torrey Smith and Leveon bell for Andre Johnson.

I think thats offering too much, but I am overloaded at RB.

recommended
29.4
TorreySmith #82 | WR

Le'VeonBell #26 | RB

17.2

Thats +12 in favor of you

[Sinfix_15]

I'm looking for a definitive upgrade at WR or RB, not interested in any depth trades. Only interested in improving starting lineup.

I'm willing to trade depth for upgrades... 2-3 for 1.

[Vteckidd]

I'm looking for a definitive upgrade at WR or RB, not interested in any depth trades. Only interested in improving starting lineup.

I'm willing to trade depth for upgrades... 2-3 for 1.

Torrey Smith is having a better year than AJ, especially with the way Shaub is going.

Gio Bernard is better than any other RB you have on staff

[Sinfix_15]

I'm looking more for a trade that clears space and upgrades 1 player.

If i took Gio, id have to cut someone. There's not a single player on my roster right now i want to throw away. I feel they all have value.

[Vteckidd]

understood

[Sinfix_15]

Eddie Lacy?

[Vteckidd]

Eddie Lacy?

for AJ?

RBs are all over the place this year.

[Sammich]

THINGS I WILL TRADE

Danny Amendola
Leveon bell
Gio Bernard
Torrey Smith
Texans DEF

things i want

Better DEF

trade offer sent

[Sinfix_15]

Players i want.............

Justin Blackmon
AJ Green
Knowshawn Moreno
Reggie Bush
Eddie Lacy
Dez Bryant
Drew Brees

[Vteckidd]

trade offer sent

Deal. Cannot accept until after MNFL though per league rules.

[DarKStaR]

Mike i will accept your trade if you are still up for it, after the game.

[Sinfix_15]

BanginJimmy is projected to beat me by less than a point tonight. I need 23 points from Andrew Luck to move to 6-0.....

This reminds me of last year when i beat Jimmy by 1/2 a point after a monday night Chargers game.

[DarKStaR]

I need my first win tonight :(

[Sinfix_15]

I need my first win tonight :(

how bad does it suck to have Romo on the bench for his monster game, then replace Cam and Cam have his monster game?LOL

[DarKStaR]

yea about that.....lol that just touches on how my season has been

[Vteckidd]

Mike i will accept your trade if you are still up for it, after the game.

i sent a bunch out what is your team name?

[Vteckidd]

Colts laying an egg

[Sinfix_15]

Colts laying an egg

damn chargers wont get off the field.

[Vteckidd]

LOTS of drops. Looked like non Luck issues from what i saw.

[Echonova]

I need my first win tonight :(Denied.

[Sinfix_15]

What a shitty monday night football game.... oh well, 5-1

[DarKStaR]

Denied.

Indeed :( i was holding you off until i went to sleep with 9min left in the 4th qtr smh

[DarKStaR]

i sent a bunch out what is your team name?

I am Nuf Said, but nvm now I need a good WR since Cobb is out, cant catch a break

[Sinfix_15]

Sending out some trade offers. You guys with busted teams, i'm willing to trade 3-4-5 guys for 1 star if you want to shake it up a bit.

[Vteckidd]

I am Nuf Said, but nvm now I need a good WR since Cobb is out, cant catch a break

sent you Romo for Brady/Torrey Smith

[DarKStaR]

sent you Romo for Brady/Torrey Smith

done, im still debating on the other one for gostkowski...hes been my bread and butter for 2 years lol

[Vteckidd]

no problem, im happy with Bailey, but i love MISSTOWSKI

[Echonova]

Sending out some trade offers. You guys with busted teams, i'm willing to trade 3-4-5 guys for 1 star if you want to shake it up a bit.I took you up on your offer. Which will give me some room to make another move or two. Dunno if it'll work, but I'm on a two game winning streak bitches!!!!!

[DarKStaR]

Damn in both my leagues my opponent this week has peyton manning as QB smh

[Sinfix_15]

I took you up on your offer. Which will give me some room to make another move or two. Dunno if it'll work, but I'm on a two game winning streak bitches!!!!!

AJ is what he is. I expect Nicks and Colston to return to form at some point. Bears D is also pretty solid, people turned their nose up at them way too quickly. Lot of young Gators on the bears, theyre gonna be studs. I had planned on keeping the Bears D, but i'm now convinced the Chiefs D is legit... gonna ride them out every week.

And prewarning..... Andre isnt gonna produce this week..... cause like i said... that KC defense is a force to be reckoned with.

[Sinfix_15]

Damn in both my leagues my opponent this week has peyton manning as QB smh

Peyton is human........ barely......

The Charges revealed a gaping weakness in the Colts defense, i expect Denver will be using a lot of Moreno this week.

[DarKStaR]

thats what im hoping for

[Echonova]

AJ is what he is. I expect Nicks and Colston to return to form at some point. Bears D is also pretty solid, people turned their nose up at them way too quickly. Lot of young Gators on the bears, theyre gonna be studs. I had planned on keeping the Bears D, but i'm now convinced the Chiefs D is legit... gonna ride them out every week.

And prewarning..... Andre isnt gonna produce this week..... cause like i said... that KC defense is a force to be reckoned with.You can have Marques back after tomorrow, he's up on a waiver now. He's not the producer I need in the field I need. And your pre-warning is noted, and this being my first fantasy season it's appreciated... After doing a little research, maybe I do need to re-think my strategy for next week. But whateve's... I'm happy with the switch.

[Sinfix_15]

You can have Marques back after tomorrow, he's up on a waiver now. He's not the producer I need in the field I need. And your pre-warning is noted, and this being my first fantasy season it's appreciated... After doing a little research, maybe I do need to re-think my strategy for next week. But whateve's... I'm happy with the switch.

Dont sleep on colston, he's been one of the most consistent WRs in the NFL. He's in a funk right now..... but the Saints are a potent offense, he will return to form soon.
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s268/Virtutis/colstonstats_zps28f09c2c.jpg (http://s154.photobucket.com/user/Virtutis/media/colstonstats_zps28f09c2c.jpg.html)

[Vteckidd]

Colston will come back, just needs to get healthy (hasnt he been hurt a bit this year?) His value will go up IF Jimmy Graham is hurt too.

Bears are a legit Defense, Andre Johnson, i dont know i feel like if you have him you start him. Regardless of KC. Echo doesnt have 1 other WR i would start OVER AJ, thats just fact.

Hakeem Nicks? Maybe if he gets traded. I dont trust the giants at all right now
Colston, would start.
Terrance Williams isnt consistent , YET. hes a project, not a must start.
Steve Smith has been mediocre.

If im Echo, im starting Andre Johnson, Colston at WR (except this week hes on bye so id roll with Steve Smith or Hakeem Nicks, not high on either one so choose whatever.

at RB
Youre fucked. Murray is hurt and wont play , DROP SHANE VEREEN hes WORTHLESS and taking up a roster spot. Verrenn wont be back until week 11, he does you no good now.

You need a RB ASAP, go put waivers in on Lamar Miller, Benjarvis Green Ellis, Brandon Jacobs, you need a starting QB to get you through this week , drop the eagles defense its terrible.

[Echonova]

Colston will come back, just needs to get healthy (hasnt he been hurt a bit this year?) His value will go up IF Jimmy Graham is hurt too.

Bears are a legit Defense, Andre Johnson, i dont know i feel like if you have him you start him. Regardless of KC. Echo doesnt have 1 other WR i would start OVER AJ, thats just fact.

Hakeem Nicks? Maybe if he gets traded. I dont trust the giants at all right now
Colston, would start.
Terrance Williams isnt consistent , YET. hes a project, not a must start.
Steve Smith has been mediocre.

If im Echo, im starting Andre Johnson, Colston at WR (except this week hes on bye so id roll with Steve Smith or Hakeem Nicks, not high on either one so choose whatever.

at RB
Youre fucked. Murray is hurt and wont play , DROP SHANE VEREEN hes WORTHLESS and taking up a roster spot. Verrenn wont be back until week 11, he does you no good now.

You need a RB ASAP, go put waivers in on Lamar Miller, Benjarvis Green Ellis, Brandon Jacobs, you need a starting QB to get you through this week , drop the eagles defense its terrible.Colsten is up on waiver for Snelling. I'm on the fence about Vareen... For some reason I feel like I'll regret giving him up, no "real" reason for not doing so already though (and somebody will snatch him up and I'll never get him back). Eagle DEF I agree on and tomorrow I will have Bears or ATL to choose from. The rest of the guys I'm "meh" on. Nobody I have seems to produce any numbers until the week their on the bench... So yeah, that strategy hasn't worked so far either. So I'm just cobbling the best I can get week to week at this point.

[Vteckidd]

Colsten is up on waiver for Snelling. I'm on the fence about Vareen... For some reason I feel like I'll regret giving him up, no "real" reason for not doing so already though (and somebody will snatch him up and I'll never get him back). Eagle DEF I agree on and tomorrow I will have Bears or ATL to choose from. The rest of the guys I'm "meh" on. Nobody I have seems to produce any numbers until the week their on the bench... So yeah, that strategy hasn't worked so far either. So I'm just cobbling the best I can get week to week at this point.
week 11, this is week 7. Vereen will give you 4-5 weeks of NOTHING. You pick him up in week 9-10. Even then, hes not a starting RB.

SNelling is a bust, hes a backup and SJAX will be back this week, if not, hes not that great. They run Quizz omre.

you need STARTING RBs, think TOUCHES. Lamar Miller will get TOUCHES. Brandon Jacobs will get TOUCHES. BJGE will get TOUCHES (not tons because of Gio Bernard) but hes better than someone that does nothing for you.

Colston is infinitely better than Snelling.

Check out Matthew Berrys rankings on espn (google it). good info.

[Echonova]

BTW: This is also my first year of paying attention to the NFL in general... So I really don't know the track record of anyone other than the big named quarterbacks you hear on the news from time to time. I could get the most brilliant player ever and if he had two bad weeks in a row in the stats I wouldn't really know the difference between him and a guy that never produced. This season (at least for me) is just time for me to get up to speed. Ima kill it next year... Or so I tell myself.


^^^ Thanks for the info in the post above

[Vteckidd]

lol its my second year, its all learning and luck really. im 5-1 in my other league, im 3-3 here just because of luck.

I sent you a trade, ill work something out with you for Murray, Leveon Bell is a starter, good player for Pitt, gets goal line carries, and texas DEF.

If thats not cool fine, let me know what else i might have you could want. Id be interested in AJ too if you had some other moves you wanted to make. maybe a Finley and Bell for Murray, or Finley and AMendola (amendola is feast or famine cause he gets hurt

[Vteckidd]

Echo if you want something else let me know, i can send you a different player if you dont want the texans DEF since you have the Bears now. You want Finley instead? Good TE especially with GB WR being hurt

[Echonova]

Echo if you want something else let me know, i can send you a different player if you dont want the texans DEF since you have the Bears now. You want Finley instead? Good TE especially with GB WR being hurtI'm good with the initial offer. Done.

[Echonova]

Oh and thanks to you guys Colsten is back on the bench (only because of the bye week). Hell I stuck with Vareen this long.... LOL

[Vteckidd]

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[Sinfix_15]

Vareen is done..... Ridley is healthy and appears to have won the job back. It's Ridley's job to lose.

[Sinfix_15]

Have you all taken a moment to recognize how stupid the fantasy "guru" is. I look at this thing every week, but never for real advice, usually just to laugh at how bizarre and ridiculous the suggestions are. It's literally suggested that i drop Demarius Thomas before.... this is how crazy this thing is.

Anyways, here's what popped up today from the "fantasy genius" at NFL.com

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[Sinfix_15]

I'm willing to trade JT Sammich, but with you without a TE this week vs me, i've got to sit back and watch you squirm.

[Sammich]

LMAO!!! ruthless

oh LOL at the fb genius saying bench boldin for CJ....even i know that's dumb...it maybe viable of shonn greene plays this week...but even at that, i think i'd start shonn greene over CJ

[Sinfix_15]

I sent the trade over to JDM, let's see if he's a "fantasy genius" or not.

[Vteckidd]

Dude i listed to all the FF podcasts at work, and listening to them, i realize how stacked some of our teams are.

They have guys being like "trade Brees for AJ Green and start Terrel Pryor"

WHAT??

Id trade JT for AP in a heartbeat. AP is going to have a monster 2nd half. Especially when they start Josh Freeman who can actually throw

[Sinfix_15]

Dude i listed to all the FF podcasts at work, and listening to them, i realize how stacked some of our teams are.

They have guys being like "trade Brees for AJ Green and start Terrel Pryor"

WHAT??

Id trade JT for AP in a heartbeat. AP is going to have a monster 2nd half. Especially when they start Josh Freeman who can actually throw

i would trade JT for AP in a heartbeat.... the idea that anyone with AP would make that trade is whats crazy.

If i didnt trade Lynch for Spiller, i feel my team would be unbeatable. Looking back on it, that was a very stupid trade. JDM's team would also be middle of the pack if he had to deal with having Spiller on his roster.

[Sammich]

lynch and AP are one of the few that are off limits of trading...there's alot of WRs you can flip flop w/ and play w/ that pretty much give you teh same production every week..very few have the 'double digit every week' kind of feel to.

OAN, whose JT?

[Vteckidd]

Julius Thomas, the STUD TE for Denver. Hes second only to Graham because Peyton has 3 other Pro Bowlers to throw to.

I gifted JT to Sin, for a player i dont even have anymore. YOU OWE ME SIN :P

[Vteckidd]

Lots of big shakeups on the rosters this week, lets see how it goes from here on out.

[Sammich]

ohhhhhhh yea. fantasy gods blessed me w/ graham in 2 leagues and JT in one league lol

[Sinfix_15]

Julius Thomas, the STUD TE for Denver. Hes second only to Graham because Peyton has 3 other Pro Bowlers to throw to.

I gifted JT to Sin, for a player i dont even have anymore. YOU OWE ME SIN :P

What did i say to you when you traded me JT?!?!?!??? LOL........

"you're going to regret this trade"

[Sinfix_15]

There's another "JT" on the waiver wire right now. Stud player who is wayyyyyy off the radar and now that i think about, let me go grab him real quick.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=l-frWs5UGg0

[Sinfix_15]

lynch and AP are one of the few that are off limits of trading...there's alot of WRs you can flip flop w/ and play w/ that pretty much give you teh same production every week..very few have the 'double digit every week' kind of feel to.

OAN, whose JT?

My reasoning behind trading Lynch for Spiller was that Spiller plays the Dolphins and Jags in weeks 15-16, the weeks of the fantasy championship. Plus i figured Percy Harvin would cut into Lynch's touches, Percy got more touches than AP did on the Vikings. Seahawks play the Giants and Cards in week 15-16, who knew the Giants were going to be garbage and the Cards are good defense. I over thought it big time.

[Sammich]

whose he w/?

[Sammich]

nah...that wouldnt happen again, the seahawks dont have a need to use percy as they did in the vikings setup, solely because their RB is set and does what he's supposed to, even though AP did too, but i'm 99% sure that the seahawks needed more WR weapons, not another extension to the rushing.

i knew they would use Bush in the same/more capacity at the lions to take pressure off of their 2 WRs to allow for more big passes and setup for more PA plays..but that inverse w/ percy..nah...but he's going ot be wilson's big target when he comes back, i'm 99% sure of that and that means Wilson will be a QB stud in the last quarter of the season

[Vteckidd]

There's another "JT" on the waiver wire right now. Stud player who is wayyyyyy off the radar.

http://gamedayr.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/jordan-reed-florida-gators-nfl-draft-570x377.jpg

i dont follow Florida , and I am happy with GRONK eventually paying off

[Vteckidd]

whose he w/?

Jordan Reed had a decent game, think hes better than Davis for the Foreskins

[Sinfix_15]

nah...that wouldnt happen again, the seahawks dont have a need to use percy as they did in the vikings setup, solely because their RB is set and does what he's supposed to, even though AP did too, but i'm 99% sure that the seahawks needed more WR weapons, not another extension to the rushing.

i knew they would use Bush in the same/more capacity at the lions to take pressure off of their 2 WRs to allow for more big passes and setup for more PA plays..but that inverse w/ percy..nah...but he's going ot be wilson's big target when he comes back, i'm 99% sure of that and that means Wilson will be a QB stud in the last quarter of the season

Percy doesnt have to rush to take rushing attempts away from RBs... screen passes......

Last year Percy touched the ball more than any player in football before his injury. He was WAYYYYYY ahead on touches too.... and that's on AP's team.

[Sinfix_15]

Jordan Reed had a decent game, think hes better than Davis for the Foreskins

He's got Aaron Hernandez-esq ball skills. Soon as he learns the offense, he's gonna be a big part of it. I changed the pic out with a video, take a glance at him running in open field.

[Sinfix_15]

Speaking of the Redskins.... they really should consider changing their name......






















"Washington" is very offensive.

[Sammich]

Percy doesnt have to rush to take rushing attempts away from RBs... screen passes......

Last year Percy touched the ball more than any player in football before his injury. He was WAYYYYYY ahead on touches too.... and that's on AP's team.

i gotcha now

[Vteckidd]

Fantasy Football Week 7 running back rankings - Fantasy Football - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/fantasy/football/story/_/page/13ranksWeek7RB/fantasy-football-week-7-running-back-rankings)


ECHO^^^^

[Jdm94Coupe]

hey IA is back up, lol

[Jdm94Coupe]

i would trade JT for AP in a heartbeat.... the idea that anyone with AP would make that trade is whats crazy.

If i didnt trade Lynch for Spiller, i feel my team would be unbeatable. Looking back on it, that was a very stupid trade. JDM's team would also be middle of the pack if he had to deal with having Spiller on his roster.

yep but i got you on that one. i fucked up and thought cincy wouldnt be able to handle the all so mighty brady. boy was i wrong and it cost me that win.... its okay im climbing back up in ranking

[Sinfix_15]

yep but i got you on that one. i fucked up and thought cincy wouldnt be able to handle the all so mighty brady. boy was i wrong and it cost me that win.... its okay im climbing back up in ranking

You sure you dont wanna trade the most dominant RB in football for an upstart tightend???? the fantasy guru said it was a good idea!

[Sammich]

LOL^

[Jdm94Coupe]

You sure you dont wanna trade the most dominant RB in football for an upstart tightend???? the fantasy guru said it was a good idea!

tell him i said to suck it..... lol ..... this year is MINE!

[Sinfix_15]

tell him i said to suck it..... lol ..... this year is MINE!

If i had to "power rank" teams at this point in time.....

#1 you
#2 Jimmy
#3 Me
________________________big gap
#4 Sammich
________________________big gap
#5 everyone else.

[Vteckidd]

HEY! im coming up bros

[Sammich]

lolol welp

[Vteckidd]

Big matchuop for me this week, both of us are 3-3, i need to get to 5-3 i think to have a shot at playoffs.

[Sinfix_15]

Nice of the dallas defense to show up today...............

who would have guessed that one of the worst defenses in the NFL, minus their best defensive player and absent a running game would be able to slow down the #2 offense in the NFL and hold them to 3 points.

Thanx for the 5 points Nick Foles....... now watch Andrew Luck and Peyton Manning put up 100 points of offense later today.

[Sinfix_15]

also.............

Jordan Reed...... told ya so.

[DarKStaR]

0-7 here i come

[Vteckidd]

also.............

Jordan Reed...... told ya so.

GRONK DOE

but that call, even though it was correct, is a terrible rule. Basically gifted the Jets a FG to win it. Hats off to the JETS D though, they are playing muchbetter.

I think brady is hurt, radio guys kept saying he was grabbing his right hand

[DarKStaR]

did Powell get hurt on the jets? I didnt see anything and he didnt put up any numbers.

Then Martin got hurt and didnt come back in the game, smh. I cant catch a break lol

[Sinfix_15]

If i lose Jordan Reed, i blame Echo.........

I had every intention of keeping Reed on my roster until he dropped Hakeem Nicks.... Nicks was a better flex start than anyone i had.

[Vteckidd]

Powell didnt play much, they ran Ivory almost all game.

I have martin in my other league, along with Keenan Allen, both went out

[Sinfix_15]

Trade Andre for Marshall based mostly on the uncertainty of the Texans QB situation and then cutler gets injured................... arrgggggg

[BanginJimmy]

Trade Andre for Marshall based mostly on the uncertainty of the Texans QB situation and then cutler gets injured................... arrgggggg

Bears played better with McCown at QB though.

I will give you RG3 and Boldin for Marshall and Luck if you want to move him though.

[Sinfix_15]

Bears played better with McCown at QB though.

I will give you RG3 and Boldin for Marshall and Luck if you want to move him though.

If Luck lays another egg tonight vs Denver, i'll be looking to part ways with him.

[BanginJimmy]

RG3 is looking like he is starting to gain confidence in that knee. Upside is huge right now.

[Sinfix_15]

The NFL needs to either change the rule about reviewing turnovers or instruct the refs to not be fucking retarded.

I've seen it about 5 times now where someone turns the ball over, the other team recovers it for a score..... but rather than having common sense and calling it a turnover on the field, knowing that it can be reviewed, the refs make a judgement call against the result of the play and then when it gets reviewed, they cant reward the result of the play, only possession. This is a major flaw in NFL officiating.

[Sinfix_15]

Julius Thomas..........

[Vteckidd]

Was just thinking the same thing, why not just rule it a turnover ? DEF get penalized for making a play

[Sinfix_15]

Manning doesnt seem himself tonight. A couple of those deep balls were ugly ducklings... he could have easily had 2-3 INTs by now.

[Vteckidd]

Hes hurt, his arm got tweaked on that safety methinks. SOmething aint right, his velocity isnt there

[Vteckidd]

Figures, the week i trade for the Broncos DEF they get blown out HAHAHAHA

Colts are like that hard nosed team, can take a punch and give it right back. I never thought the Broncos would go undefeated, Im not sure they can take a punch in the mouth and keep going. Even vs DALLAS, Peyton never really was pressured and COlts are the first ones that are playing physical with Denvers receivers.

[Sinfix_15]

Hes hurt, his arm got tweaked on that safety methinks. SOmething aint right, his velocity isnt there

You might be right, his arm strength is nonexistent in this game. That and theyre dinking and dunking to Moreno.....


Luck is looking like a rocket launcher tonight.......

[Sammich]

Nice of the dallas defense to show up today...............

who would have guessed that one of the worst defenses in the NFL, minus their best defensive player and absent a running game would be able to slow down the #2 offense in the NFL and hold them to 3 points.

Thanx for the 5 points Nick Foles....... now watch Andrew Luck and Peyton Manning put up 100 points of offense later today.

actually dallas defense isnt so bad..they are pretty solid


RG3 is looking like he is starting to gain confidence in that knee. Upside is huge right now.

i've been saying since day one..they should have at least had him playing from the 2nd/3rd preseason game...he'll be fine..it'll be cowboys and redskins fighting for that division


The NFL needs to either change the rule about reviewing turnovers or instruct the refs to not be fucking retarded.

I've seen it about 5 times now where someone turns the ball over, the other team recovers it for a score..... but rather than having common sense and calling it a turnover on the field, knowing that it can be reviewed, the refs make a judgement call against the result of the play and then when it gets reviewed, they cant reward the result of the play, only possession. This is a major flaw in NFL officiating.

man...officiating is fukin retarded. i dont even want to get started w/ them

[Sinfix_15]

actually dallas defense isnt so bad..they are pretty solid



i've been saying since day one..they should have at least had him playing from the 2nd/3rd preseason game...he'll be fine..it'll be cowboys and redskins fighting for that division



man...officiating is fukin retarded. i dont even want to get started w/ them

Dallas came in 30th in pass D, i didnt think losing their best pass rusher Ware was gonna make it any better.

Sucks, ive got to pin this loss on myself. I started Foles over Luck.

[Sammich]

WTF?!?!? c'mon man Foles over Luck? Foles had one good game against a trash team....ESPN hypes the wrong things, i swear i'm hating ESPN more and more lately

[Sinfix_15]

WTF?!?!? c'mon man Foles over Luck? Foles had one good game against a trash team....ESPN hypes the wrong things, i swear i'm hating ESPN more and more lately

Dallas D was ranked 30th, plus Ware injured. Broncos had Miller and Champ returning. Vegas projected both the Eagles and Colts to score 25 points.

Over thought it.

[Sammich]

yea...definitely..i would have went w/ solidity. i dont know why ESPN ranked nick foles in the top 15...fukin ignorant

[Vteckidd]

yeah i think Matthew Berry had Foles as a top 12 QB, i never trust the EAGLES QBs.

Thank god for GRONKS return, nice having a consistent 10-15 point TE :P

Romo put up decent numbers. Ray Rice, man, wtf is going on in BAL.

[Sinfix_15]

yea...definitely..i would have went w/ solidity. i dont know why ESPN ranked nick foles in the top 15...fukin ignorant

He looked legit prior to yesterday.

[Sammich]

yeah i think Matthew Berry had Foles as a top 12 QB, i never trust the EAGLES QBs.

Thank god for GRONKS return, nice having a consistent 10-15 point TE :P

Romo put up decent numbers. Ray Rice, man, wtf is going on in BAL.

i trust vick...but a back up QB who hasnt had many starts to run my fantasy? fuk nah...anyone else yes, but not no qb...hell i have to give rookie wr/rb/te a couple wks before i put them in my roster. although i may pick them off of the waiver

[Vteckidd]

NFL Changed the Push Rule AFTER They Called It Against the Patriots | Barstool Sports: Boston (http://boston.barstoolsports.com/m/random-thoughts/nfl-changed-the-push-rule-after-they-called-it/)

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

[BanginJimmy]

Rule was changed this past off season at the request of the players.

Washington Redskins offensive lineman Will Montgomery pushed for new pushing rule that cost New England Patriots. - NFL News | FOX Sports on MSN (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/sunday-wrap-pushing-rule-cost-new-england-patriots-redskins-offensive-lineman-will-montgomery-102013)

[Vteckidd]

Yeah i know that, not playing sore loser, that wasnt the reason why we lost, but its a dumb rule.

[Jdm94Coupe]

go jdm94coupe! time to whip up on bangin jimmy!!!! time to stir up the rankings a bit!

[Sinfix_15]

go jdm94coupe! time to whip up on bangin jimmy!!!! time to stir up the rankings a bit!

Jimmy is ravaged by bye weeks. Should be very beatable

[Sammich]

oh they can change a rule AFTER you play the patriots and it goes against the patriots? FOH

[Sinfix_15]

oh they can change a rule AFTER you play the patriots and it goes against the patriots? FOH
The tom Brady effect. Being the best qb ever has its advantages

[Jdm94Coupe]

The tom Brady effect. Being the best qb ever has its advantages

behind only peyton....

[Sammich]

Aaron Rodgers....

[Vteckidd]

behind only peyton....

not even close.

3 rings > 1 ring.

Brady has consistently beat Manning his entire career. Peyton is the best regular season QB but hes not brady, not even close. Peyton Manning isnt even in the TOP 5 OF ALL TIME IMO.

Montana
Brady
Unitas
Elway
Bradshaw

[Vteckidd]

Aaron Rodgers....

Rodgers hasnt done much the last few years, team wise. I think if he doesnt win another one here soon, youre looking at a prime that was squandered.

[Sammich]

he hasnt done much because the wins were all on his back...think about it...his numbers are down compared to last yr because of eddie lacy...if i remember last yr...i was getting at least 25/game on fantasy. the running game has saved him. rodgers will go down as a great

[Vteckidd]

he hasnt done much because the wins were all on his back...think about it...his numbers are down compared to last yr because of eddie lacy...if i remember last yr...i was getting at least 25/game on fantasy. the running game has saved him. rodgers will go down as a great

not doubting his talent, but hes got too stacked a team the last 2 years to not go to the SB. I think his window is over with the emergence of the 49ers and Seahawks.

he will go down as a top 20 QB

[Vteckidd]

Speaking of the best ever.... I didnt get a chance to show this because the site was down.


http://i43.tinypic.com/33m27oh.jpg

http://i43.tinypic.com/20gmi9x.jpg

This is the last play of the game, i have video of Talib denying Roddy White
http://i44.tinypic.com/hu0gmq.jpg

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http://i40.tinypic.com/2rfsx1l.jpg

[BanginJimmy]

go jdm94coupe! time to whip up on bangin jimmy!!!! time to stir up the rankings a bit!

You arent sitting as pretty as you think you are. You have a definite advantage this week, but it isnt set in stone right now. I have a few things working.

[BanginJimmy]

The QB that will have us forgetting the Brady's and Manning's will be Luck. He is miles ahead of either of them at this point in his career. As long as he keeps the same attitude and the Colts surround him with enough talent he will go down as one of the best ever.

[Sinfix_15]

The QB that will have us forgetting the Brady's and Manning's will be Luck. He is miles ahead of either of them at this point in his career. As long as he keeps the same attitude and the Colts surround him with enough talent he will go down as one of the best ever.

He is without question the front runner of the future crop of QBs. I dont think he will ever be Brady. The fire that burns in Brady was lit by not being the big shot stanford QB, from not being the #1 pick in the draft.... Brady has played in 5 superbowls and still wants to play in 5 more. Brady STILL plays with a chip on his shoulder....

[BanginJimmy]

He is without question the front runner of the future crop of QBs. I dont think he will ever be Brady. The fire that burns in Brady was lit by not being the big shot stanford QB, from not being the #1 pick in the draft.... Brady has played in 5 superbowls and still wants to play in 5 more. Brady STILL plays with a chip on his shoulder....

Not going to question Brady's drive, but dont act like he was a no one from Delaware. He was the starting QB at the University of Michigan. The same school that saw nearly 20 straight starting QB's drafted into the NFL.

I think Luck is going to be better because he has the same drive, the same intelligence, and better tools. He has a stronger arm, he is bigger, stronger, and more athletic. Brady and Manning are statues in the pocket where Luck can do the same damage from the pocket but can also do real damage with his legs.

[Vteckidd]

time will tell, Luck looks the part, but he has to take basement talent to a SB and win it. Brady has dont so much with so little. Hes NEVER had a dependable WR deep threat. His best WR was what............deion branch? Im talking dependable long term receiver?

Moss was in an out, Welker you could argue, but is welker a HOFer?

Troy Brown?

[Sinfix_15]

Luck has tebow's body, Peyton's mind and Marino's arm..... but Brady is very big shoes to fill.

[Sammich]

Luck is like the perfect fusion of Peyton and Vick

[Sinfix_15]

damn you Echo.

[DarKStaR]

damn you Echo.

talking about him getting Reed? If so I know your pain i was trying for him too lol

[Echonova]

damn you Echo.Everything that has transpired has done so according to my design. Your friends, up there on the NFL moon, are walking into a trap, as is your Rebel fleet. It was *I* who allowed the Alliance to know the location of the limited roster generator. It is quite safe from your pitiful little band. An entire legion of my best troops awaits them. Oh, I'm afraid the opposing teams defense will be quite operational when your friends arrive.


http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z106/JRE_27/STAR%20WARS/swfu-emperor-palpatine.jpg (http://media.photobucket.com/user/JRE_27/media/STAR%20WARS/swfu-emperor-palpatine.jpg.html)

[BanginJimmy]

talking about him getting Reed? If so I know your pain i was trying for him too lol

I saw my waiver number and didnt even try.

[BanginJimmy]

I need a #3 WR. I have Steven Hauschka and Garrett Hartley for bait. May even throw RG3 into the mix for a #1 or 2 WR.

[Vteckidd]

I need a #3 WR. I have Steven Hauschka and Garrett Hartley for bait. May even throw RG3 into the mix for a #1 or 2 WR.

interested in hartley.

[Sinfix_15]

any interest in CJ Spiller?

[Sammich]

fukin panthers w/ the bullsh1t last night. all i wanted was double digit fantasy numbers from their defense, but they had to allow a touchdown.

[BanginJimmy]

any interest in CJ Spiller?

If this is directed at me, the answer is no. Really need to step up my WR's. Willing to throw in someone else for the right WR though. Jamal Charles is NOT one of the players leaving though.

[Sinfix_15]

Might be time for the Falcons to part ways with Matty Ice.

[Vteckidd]

Matty Ice isnt the problem. Im obviously not a falcons fan, so I think im pretty objective. Heres my take:

Signing S JAckson was bad. Knowing his soft tissue injury history, at least Turner was durable. Hindsight is 20/20 but they would have been better off signing a Willis Mcgahee or something , just someone serviceable. I compare Jackson to what the Pats did with Amendola and ill get back to that in a minute.

Allowing Roddy White to play the first 4-5 games of the season. STUPID. He never got fully healed, then pulls a hammy, waste of a season for him. He was such a go to guy for Matt last year.

Julio Jones, Bad luck.

Letting Abraham walk. While on paper I think they made the right move, Osi has not filled his role well. Abraham doesnt make or break the falcons, but it gives them experience and talent on a pass rush that is NON EXISTENT. Ask yourself would you rather have Abraham NOW, or no pass rush at all. At least Abraham gave them a shot at a pass rush.

Osi- Not sure if its the defensive schemes or what, but he just doesnt look like hes being used right. I know the local sports guys talked about OSI not being a stand up type of LB/DB and they are making him play like that. Maybe its out of his comfort zone?

The biggest problem is Thomas Dimitrov (SP?) not drafting and reloading the O-Line. All the stuff above is one thing, injuries happen, hard to pay a 30+ year old Abraham who is clearly at the end of his career, etc. But not drafting competent O-Line when you KNOW youre going to pay your QB 100+ million dollars is just dumb. I would have let Trufant go, and drafted O-Line in a STACKED o-line draft to protect matty Ice. They won games last year because of OFFENSE. Now they have no offense, and an even shittier defense.

[Vteckidd]

As much as I have a sore spot over Welker for 2 huge drops, it sure would have been nice to have him right now without Hernandez and with Gronk being hurt.

I believe in Amendolas talent, but if he cant stay on the field long enough to get chemistry with Brady, whats the point. He needs a breakout game, and soon.



HOLY shit at the shootout going on between me and Dirty Birds. CJ vs DB, Romo vs Stafford, nuts. I KNEW I SHOULD HAVE STARTED JOSH GORDON. I benched him at the last minute because I was expecting a breakout game from Amendola and didnt like Gordon vs KC with a new QB.

SOmetimes im a homer to my own demise.

[Sinfix_15]

As much as I have a sore spot over Welker for 2 huge drops, it sure would have been nice to have him right now without Hernandez and with Gronk being hurt.

I believe in Amendolas talent, but if he cant stay on the field long enough to get chemistry with Brady, whats the point. He needs a breakout game, and soon.



HOLY shit at the shootout going on between me and Dirty Birds. CJ vs DB, Romo vs Stafford, nuts. I KNEW I SHOULD HAVE STARTED JOSH GORDON. I benched him at the last minute because I was expecting a breakout game from Amendola and didnt like Gordon vs KC with a new QB.

SOmetimes im a homer to my own demise.

I think you made the right call...... just sometimes it doesnt go the way it should.

Everyone expected the Chiefs D to swallow the Browns whole today.....

[Sinfix_15]

Matty Ice isnt the problem. Im obviously not a falcons fan, so I think im pretty objective. Heres my take:

Signing S JAckson was bad. Knowing his soft tissue injury history, at least Turner was durable. Hindsight is 20/20 but they would have been better off signing a Willis Mcgahee or something , just someone serviceable. I compare Jackson to what the Pats did with Amendola and ill get back to that in a minute.

Allowing Roddy White to play the first 4-5 games of the season. STUPID. He never got fully healed, then pulls a hammy, waste of a season for him. He was such a go to guy for Matt last year.

Julio Jones, Bad luck.

Letting Abraham walk. While on paper I think they made the right move, Osi has not filled his role well. Abraham doesnt make or break the falcons, but it gives them experience and talent on a pass rush that is NON EXISTENT. Ask yourself would you rather have Abraham NOW, or no pass rush at all. At least Abraham gave them a shot at a pass rush.

Osi- Not sure if its the defensive schemes or what, but he just doesnt look like hes being used right. I know the local sports guys talked about OSI not being a stand up type of LB/DB and they are making him play like that. Maybe its out of his comfort zone?

The biggest problem is Thomas Dimitrov (SP?) not drafting and reloading the O-Line. All the stuff above is one thing, injuries happen, hard to pay a 30+ year old Abraham who is clearly at the end of his career, etc. But not drafting competent O-Line when you KNOW youre going to pay your QB 100+ million dollars is just dumb. I would have let Trufant go, and drafted O-Line in a STACKED o-line draft to protect matty Ice. They won games last year because of OFFENSE. Now they have no offense, and an even shittier defense.

So much young QB talent in the NFL right now and looks like there's even more on the way. I dont understand these teams latching on to avg QBs for 100+ million dollars. A team like the rams or browns would probably gut their roster to have Matt Ryan. Looking ahead to how much young talent is on the horizon, id be looking to sell deal Ryan away and draft another QB. The Vikings would probably trade AP for Ryan................

I'd deal Ryan and try to position for Manziel in the draft.... which should be easy, because he's probably a 5-15th pick

[Vteckidd]

Look i know its easy to trash Matt Ryan, but I look at it from a ranking standpoint.

ELITE QBs
Brady
Peyton Manning
Brees
Rodgers

Tier 2 QBs
Matt Ryan
Tony Romo
Joe Flacco
Matt Stafford
Eli Manning
Cam Newton
RG3
Kapernick
Luck

Tier 3 QBs
Alex Smith
Ponder
Sanchez/Geno
Palmer


I think Matt Ryan falls in the tony romo/stafford area, big numbers, not alot if any playoff victories. hes clearly a top 10 QB in the league. Youre a capitalist, you pay what the market bears. The market says you pay him 20 million a year.

He hasnt been the problem this year, its been the O Line and Def Line IMO. Its easy to pin it on him. Look at the Bucs game from last week, single handed won that game with not a top 20 receiver or RB at his disposal.

I dont think Mike Smith is an elite coach, and i think their defensive schemes are old and boring. When you have no running game, no protection, and no pass rush, you just dont have a good team.

Also not sold on drafting franchise QB. Look how many busts there have been. You have a bird in the hand with Ryan. hes capable of winning.

[Sinfix_15]

I know you're sweatin, hopin that Lacy will close this out for you. You dont want to have to depend on Zac Stacy vs the Seahawks D.

[Vteckidd]

haha I know right. Not feeling confident about that.

[Vteckidd]

Of course Stacy could get me - yards tomorrow too.

[BanginJimmy]

Might be time for the Falcons to part ways with Matty Ice.

No way in hell the Falcons part ways with him anytime in the forseeable future. He isnt have a very good season, but either is anyone else on the team. He has played very well a couple times this year and they still lost. It is time to start parting ways with the aging talent to try to free up some money for 1 or 2 big name free agents on the defense and O line though.



Signing S JAckson was bad. Knowing his soft tissue injury history, at least Turner was durable. Hindsight is 20/20 but they would have been better off signing a Willis Mcgahee or something , just someone serviceable. I compare Jackson to what the Pats did with Amendola and ill get back to that in a minute.

I saw this coming the day I heard the Falcons signed him. He has never been able to stay healthy and IMO he is only a slightly above average back to begin with.


I'd deal Ryan and try to position for Manziel in the draft.... which should be easy, because he's probably a 5-15th pick

Johnny Manziel has no shot in the NFL if they want him to be a pocket passer. He might be OK between injuries in Philly, but he will never been a long term NFL pocket QB.



The draft is where teams that win year after year are built. If the Falcons are serious about rebuilding they need to bump the top 7 pick they are playing themselves into right now in exchange for a late round first and early 3rd rounder, maybe late 2nd rounder. They dont need elite talent right now they need guys that can pull their weight and contribute for 16 weeks. After this year Osi should be gone. I would probably say goodbye to Jackson, Snelling, and whatever defensive secondary guys you can get away from without a huge cap hit.

[Sammich]

Look i know its easy to trash Matt Ryan, but I look at it from a ranking standpoint.

ELITE QBs
Brady
Peyton Manning
Brees
Rodgers

Tier 2 QBs
Matt Ryan
Tony Romo
Joe Flacco
Matt Stafford
Eli Manning
Cam Newton
RG3
Kapernick
Luck

Tier 3 QBs
Alex Smith
Ponder
Sanchez/Geno
Palmer


I think Matt Ryan falls in the tony romo/stafford area, big numbers, not alot if any playoff victories. hes clearly a top 10 QB in the league. Youre a capitalist, you pay what the market bears. The market says you pay him 20 million a year.

He hasnt been the problem this year, its been the O Line and Def Line IMO. Its easy to pin it on him. Look at the Bucs game from last week, single handed won that game with not a top 20 receiver or RB at his disposal.

I dont think Mike Smith is an elite coach, and i think their defensive schemes are old and boring. When you have no running game, no protection, and no pass rush, you just dont have a good team.

Also not sold on drafting franchise QB. Look how many busts there have been. You have a bird in the hand with Ryan. hes capable of winning.

sorry...i'd put flacco in 'tier' 3..., flacco has to be the most overrated QB in NFL IMO

[Sinfix_15]

sorry...i'd put flacco in 'tier' 3..., flacco has to be the most overrated QB in NFL IMO

If that's true.... then put Matt Ryan on that tier also.

[Sinfix_15]

No way in hell the Falcons part ways with him anytime in the forseeable future. He isnt have a very good season, but either is anyone else on the team. He has played very well a couple times this year and they still lost. It is time to start parting ways with the aging talent to try to free up some money for 1 or 2 big name free agents on the defense and O line though.




I saw this coming the day I heard the Falcons signed him. He has never been able to stay healthy and IMO he is only a slightly above average back to begin with.



Johnny Manziel has no shot in the NFL if they want him to be a pocket passer. He might be OK between injuries in Philly, but he will never been a long term NFL pocket QB.



The draft is where teams that win year after year are built. If the Falcons are serious about rebuilding they need to bump the top 7 pick they are playing themselves into right now in exchange for a late round first and early 3rd rounder, maybe late 2nd rounder. They dont need elite talent right now they need guys that can pull their weight and contribute for 16 weeks. After this year Osi should be gone. I would probably say goodbye to Jackson, Snelling, and whatever defensive secondary guys you can get away from without a huge cap hit.


I dont think the Falcons will deal Ryan..... but i think they should.


I think Manziel is gonna be fine in the NFL.

[Vteckidd]

sorry...i'd put flacco in 'tier' 3..., flacco has to be the most overrated QB in NFL IMO

Hes like Alex Smith with slightly more offensive upside. He did win a ring, and he tied (or broke) montanas TD2INT record last year. Went to playoffs first 5/6 years of his career. Gotta put him in low tier 2

[Sammich]

If that's true.... then put Matt Ryan on that tier also.

i'd accept putting ryan there too, i never accepted ryan as a QB i'd put on my team, neither alex smith....they are all solid, GREAT BACKUP QUARTERBACKS...that's it


Hes like Alex Smith with slightly more offensive upside. He did win a ring, and he tied (or broke) montanas TD2INT record last year. Went to playoffs first 5/6 years of his career. Gotta put him in low tier 2

meh...i dont like what 49ers did w/ alex smith, but he is a safe QB, i'd almost take him over flacco

[Vteckidd]

Matt Ryan has been a better QB than Mike Vick. Agree?

[Sammich]

both being healthy? nah, i'd take vick...vick still has legs, and he's even more lethal w/ a solid OL. Eagles havent had a solid OL in seasons..you cant expect anyone to perform well in that all the time, only QB that has is Rodgers, not even Brady has this year

[Vteckidd]

Then youll never accept Matt Ryan. Matt Ryan is far and away a much better QB than Michael Vick. Staying healthy and durable is part of the job. Ask the Eagles how good Vick is. Ask the Bears how good Cutler has been in the last 2 seasons.

matt Ryan is not only durable, hes dependable, and he wins games. Vick has had decent teams, and when they get going, he gets hurt.

Vicks career will be looked back on as mediocre. A guy that came out of college as a stud, had 3-4 good years, and then crashed and never panned out. He will be mentioned in the same breath as guys like Jake Plummer.

Matt Ryan, this season is OVER, but, if the falcons are smart, he has 2-3 years coming where they can make a run. I agree with Jimmy, they will gut where they can and reload. If they are smart, they are shopping Tony G for a draft pick. SJAX is gone, unless he is super cheap. Im not sure what his contract is, i heard it was very cheap. they need an O-Line. I think that is where they address their needs first in the draft

[Sinfix_15]

Seems like you have selective memory with Vick. Vick has only had 1 above avg season his entire career and he hasnt played an entire season since 2006.

The window is closing for Vick. This Eagles team is the best opportunity ever for him to showcase his ability and it doesnt look like he's gonna be healthy enough to do anything. If Vick cant come back and make a serious statement to end this season on a good note, i think his days as a starting NFL QB may be over with. Sure, there are a lot worse QBs in the NFL right now than Vick, but Vick wouldnt fit any of those teams. Chip Kelly's Eagles is the perfect marriage for Vick, its now or never.


I'd take Ryan over Vick, but wouldnt be thrilled about having either.

[Sammich]

you just said Ryan wins games, but they are 2-5...i cant take that seriously, sorry.

Chip Kelly wont be w/ the Eagles for long, his one game hit wonder was a fluke. He focused on the offensive weapons instead of solidifying the OL and defense. like i said...healthy qb to healthy qb, i'd take Vick over Ryan, not anyday, but i'd pick him over Ryan. w/ the same weapons, and Vicks legs vs Ryan...i think Vick team would win more times than not.

I feel sorry for Gonzalez though..he came back thinking he had a playoff contending team to return to and came back to a 2-5 team that lost to the Jets and Geno.

[Sinfix_15]

you just said Ryan wins games, but they are 2-5...i cant take that seriously, sorry.

Chip Kelly wont be w/ the Eagles for long, his one game hit wonder was a fluke. He focused on the offensive weapons instead of solidifying the OL and defense. like i said...healthy qb to healthy qb, i'd take Vick over Ryan, not anyday, but i'd pick him over Ryan. w/ the same weapons, and Vicks legs vs Ryan...i think Vick team would win more times than not.

I feel sorry for Gonzalez though..he came back thinking he had a playoff contending team to return to and came back to a 2-5 team that lost to the Jets and Geno.

Would be a "feel good" story if the Falcons sent Tony back to the Chiefs..... but the Falcons arent going to admit their season is over just yet, even though it is. They'll be lucky to win 8 games.

[Sinfix_15]

Little off topic here...... but seeing all these problems teams are having and the mighty that have fallen.....

It kinda puts it in perspective how great the Patriots really are. For so many teams in the NFL it seems like the planets have to align perfectly for them to reach the top and then it's even harder for them to stay there. The Patriots remain the most consistence franchise in the NFL and it certainly isnt for a lack of adversity. All of these justifications we're offering up for the Falcons season, have also happened to the Patriots.

[Vteckidd]

you just said Ryan wins games, but they are 2-5...i cant take that seriously, sorry.



???

Are you watching the games? Matt Ryan hasnt been the reason why they are losing. Sorry. Vick, he has had what 10+ years in the league? what has he done? He hsnt had the years Matt Ryan has had. Matt Ryan made HARRY DOUGLAS a top receiver. WHAT?

Matt Ryan is 100 times better than Vick, any team would take Matt Ryan over Vick in a heartbeat.

Vick squandered his prime by going to jail, same with Plaxico

[Sammich]

Patriots...great? nah

I still stand by what i say w/ Ryan vs Vick...have you watched any of the Eagles games in the last couple years...what QB is gonna be able to stand the test of time w/ a OL that doesnt give them time, except Peyton who gets rid of the ball in less than 3 seconds...who mind you is nursing a couple of injuries. Vick needs to do a Derrick Rose and take time to himself to get healthy 100%, legit

[Vteckidd]

Matt Ryan wins games, you cant just look at 1 season.

We can play that game if you want

VICK 60-51
Ryan 59-31

Ryan has 20 less losses, same amount of wins. Ryan threw for over 4000+ yards last 2 seasons (prob this season too hes on pace for it).

Its not even an argument, Matt Ryan is a clear better QB than Vick

[Sammich]

agreed. i wish Gonzalez would just retire...he wont be putting up big numbers w/ alex smith right now..the big recievers from the chiefs last season arent putting up big numbers because smith is too conservative

[Vteckidd]

Patriots...great? nah

I still stand by what i say w/ Ryan vs Vick...have you watched any of the Eagles games in the last couple years...what QB is gonna be able to stand the test of time w/ a OL that doesnt give them time, except Peyton who gets rid of the ball in less than 3 seconds...who mind you is nursing a couple of injuries. Vick needs to do a Derrick Rose and take time to himself to get healthy 100%, legit

Vick is 33, his athleticism left him 2-3 years ago.

I agree his O-Line sucks, but so do a ton of other teams. Brady is 6-2. Rodgers has a SB. Brees doesnt have a stout O-Line. There are TONS of QBs with bad O-lines that are elite. Vick is just not one of them.

[Vteckidd]

agreed. i wish Gonzalez would just retire...he wont be putting up big numbers w/ alex smith right now..the big recievers from the chiefs last season arent putting up big numbers because smith is too conservative

I hope they trade him for a draft pick because that would be a cool thing to do. But it would infuriate falcons fans way too much because some of them are delusional thinking they can still be a 10 win team

[Sinfix_15]

Patriots...great? nah

I still stand by what i say w/ Ryan vs Vick...have you watched any of the Eagles games in the last couple years...what QB is gonna be able to stand the test of time w/ a OL that doesnt give them time, except Peyton who gets rid of the ball in less than 3 seconds...who mind you is nursing a couple of injuries. Vick needs to do a Derrick Rose and take time to himself to get healthy 100%, legit

Vick doesnt have time to do a Derrick Rose...... Rose is young.... Vick's better days are behind him and he's playing for probably the only team in the NFL who would cater to his abilities. A lot of Vick's issues with his line are his inability to lead them. Brady and Manning make their lines better, they adjust assignments, change plays.... actually understand defenses..... Vick snaps the ball and wings it. If not for his amazing physical attributes, he wouldnt have a place in the NFL.

Vick's legacy will be a story of what might have been. He's just now starting to develop mentally as a leader..... his NFL career started in 2001. He's about 10 years to late.... now that his mind is catching up to his body, his body is on the decline.

[Sammich]

Vick is 33, his athleticism left him 2-3 years ago.

I agree his O-Line sucks, but so do a ton of other teams. Brady is 6-2. Rodgers has a SB. Brees doesnt have a stout O-Line. There are TONS of QBs with bad O-lines that are elite. Vick is just not one of them.

you say tons...but brady is struggling and his age is catching up w/ him, he was renowned for taking all no namers and making them household names. Brees and Rodgers are still doing numbers...but outside of those...whose really doing great things? as of now though, Vick's days of being a starter are numbered i'd agree, but i'm talking prime for prime (health included), i'd take vick. i'm just not a Ryan fan


Vick doesnt have time to do a Derrick Rose...... Rose is young.... Vick's better days are behind him and he's playing for probably the only team in the NFL who would cater to his abilities. A lot of Vick's issues with his line are his inability to lead them. Brady and Manning make their lines better, they adjust assignments, change plays.... actually understand defenses..... Vick snaps the ball and wings it. If not for his amazing physical attributes, he wouldnt have a place in the NFL.

Vick's legacy will be a story of what might have been. He's just now starting to develop mentally as a leader..... his NFL career started in 2001. He's about 10 years to late.... now that his mind is catching up to his body, his body is on the decline.

it took his fall for him to mature i'd agree...sorta like Vince Young...difference between those 2, VY didnt solidify himself as a good/great QB before he melted down in Tennessee, and that's gonna follow him for his 'career' or what's left of it. Sucks because if him and Fisher had no ill feelings i'd be 99% sure the Rams would have picked him up and signed him right after Bradfords injury


I hope they trade him for a draft pick because that would be a cool thing to do. But it would infuriate falcons fans way too much because some of them are delusional thinking they can still be a 10 win team

i rather Gonzalez go ahead and retire. i'm sure he's gone after this year

[Vteckidd]

Patriots 6-2 doe even though Brady sucks and beat the saints.

Brady gonna Brady

[Sammich]

yea...that..suprises me

[Jdm94Coupe]

As much as I have a sore spot over Welker for 2 huge drops, it sure would have been nice to have him right now without Hernandez and with Gronk being hurt.

I believe in Amendolas talent, but if he cant stay on the field long enough to get chemistry with Brady, whats the point. He needs a breakout game, and soon.



HOLY shit at the shootout going on between me and Dirty Birds. CJ vs DB, Romo vs Stafford, nuts. I KNEW I SHOULD HAVE STARTED JOSH GORDON. I benched him at the last minute because I was expecting a breakout game from Amendola and didnt like Gordon vs KC with a new QB.

SOmetimes im a homer to my own demise.

I hate to say it.... I told you so.

[Sinfix_15]

I hate to say it.... I told you so.

Too soon junior..........


wait until the playoffs.

[Vteckidd]

wait 3 weeks when we meet in FOXBOROUGH

[Sammich]

did anyone else catch the game last night and catch that Rams defense?!?

[Vteckidd]

DIE SAMMICH, DIE

[Sammich]

lol what i do?

*edit* just realized we play each other...looking like you gonna get the W this week lol

[Jdm94Coupe]

Too soon junior..........


wait until the playoffs.

lmao, i HOPE you are kidding. Welker has already done more then amendola will prob ever do. just a terrible move on the patriots part!!! and we will DEFINITELY see in the playoffs.

[Sinfix_15]

lmao, i HOPE you are kidding. Welker has already done more then amendola will prob ever do. just a terrible move on the patriots part!!! and we will DEFINITELY see in the playoffs.


Luckily for Welker, the game deciding pass will likely be thrown to Demarius, Julius or Decker..........


We've yet to see whether this deal was good or not. Welker has been one of the best regular season WRs in the NFL lately...... and he still dropped THE pass the cost the Patriots a superbowl.....


If Amendola gets in that situation and catches that pass, no matter what he season looked like, it was a good movie. Patriots dont aim to win 15-16 games or throw 50 TD passes...... rings.... it's all that matters. Ring isnt on the line yet.

[Vteckidd]

Welker helped us during the regular season, killed us in the playoffs. Hes like peyton manning, folds in the playoffs.

Amendola I still have hope for just needs to stay healthy.

Cant wait for Denver vs Pats in Foxborough

[Sammich]

Welker helped us during the regular season, killed us in the playoffs. Hes like peyton manning, folds in the playoffs.

Amendola I still have hope for just needs to stay healthy.

Cant wait for Denver vs Pats in Foxborough

that mean they are the perfect fit? :ninja:

[Sinfix_15]

Prediction.......

Echonova is gonna upset Jimmy. Vteckidd is gonna knock off Sammich. I'm gonna thump JDM..... AGAIN!...............

and by the end of the week i will be back in 1st place!

[Vteckidd]

Prediction.......

Echonova is gonna upset Jimmy. Vteckidd is gonna knock off Sammich. I'm gonna thump JDM..... AGAIN!...............

and by the end of the week i will be back in 1st place!

im just trying to make it to 4th place for the playoffs, thats all.

also, WHERE DO THEY GET THESE predictions? GB DEF 17 points? Are you kidding me?

[Vteckidd]

DHB or Amendola?

GOD i know i said i would stop riding Amendola, but Im leaning toward DHB vs Houston.

[Sinfix_15]

DHB or Amendola?

GOD i know i said i would stop riding Amendola, but Im leaning toward DHB vs Houston.

The only Patriots i want at this point are Ridley and Gronk, no other Patriots are worth a roster spot.

[Sammich]

im just trying to make it to 4th place for the playoffs, thats all.

also, WHERE DO THEY GET THESE predictions? GB DEF 17 points? Are you kidding me?

i lol a little bit...but bears do have a back up qb...so think about interceptions and sacks racking up....

[Sammich]

DAMN!!!! 4 OF US ARE 6-2...this is a good league

[Vteckidd]

Its really competitive I like that. I mean have you told your friends your teams, I have. They are like HOLY SHIT you can never lose, but I do, because I think about 80% of the teams are really well balanced.

Look at the game last week, Dirty Birds vs me. Romo + Megatron vs Stafford and Dez. That game was up in the air despite both our WR having obscene games

[Sammich]

yea it's good that it's balanced out like that..i went to look at my record, then was like how the hell i'm 6-2 and ranked 3..went and checked the league and was mind blown

[Vteckidd]

I think in the beginning we all thought Sin had the worst team and JDM had the best. Sin traded his way to the top, JDM just been unlucky, Banging has been, well, banging