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Sinfix_15
07-04-2013, 07:37 AM
Video Reportedly Shows NOH8 Attack At Seattle Pridefest | The Dana Show (http://danaloeschradio.com/video-reportedly-shows-noh8-attack-at-seattle-pridefest/)

"Jason Queree from Marysville" (<<<LMAO) arrested for assaulting a street preacher.


http://www.komonews.com/news/crime/Video-shows-crowd-attacking-religious-protesters-at-Pridefest-214151861.html?tab=video&amp;c=y

Echonova
07-04-2013, 08:28 AM
Ugh, I wish both religion and our Government would quit caring about what people do in their bedroom.

David88vert
07-04-2013, 08:55 AM
Ugh, I wish both religion and our Government would quit caring about what people do in their bedroom.

So do I - but they aren't keeping it in the bedroom, when they have a "Gay Pride Parade/Festival". You don't see straight people walking around proclaiming, "I'm straight, look at me!", but it seems that some elements of the gay community feel that they have to force others to observe their activities in public.

-EnVus-
07-04-2013, 10:24 AM
So do I - but they aren't keeping it in the bedroom, when they have a "Gay Pride Parade/Festival". You don't see straight people walking around proclaiming, "I'm straight, look at me!", but it seems that some elements of the gay community feel that they have to force others to observe their activities in public.
I don't wanna see a gay pride parade specially when they dress the way they do and act. Why must it be thrown upon the world they are gay to get a parade/march. Leave those for the real and appropriate reasons that have benefits from the events.
A bunch of guys wear leather ass-less chaps and using gag balls with chains walking our streets seriously ?!?!

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07-04-2013, 10:30 AM
So do I - but they aren't keeping it in the bedroom, when they have a "Gay Pride Parade/Festival". You don't see straight people walking around proclaiming, "I'm straight, look at me!", but it seems that some elements of the gay community feel that they have to force others to observe their activities in public.You could always NOT go to a gay pride parade, then no one but gays would observe their activities in public. I've never heard of any gay people forcing straight people to go to gay pride parades.

-EnVus-
07-04-2013, 10:33 AM
You could always NOT go to a gay pride parade, then no one but gays would observe their activities in public. I've never heard of any gay people forcing straight people to go to gay pride parades.
When are the parades even in back allys or not residential traveled streets where people like us or children use ?

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07-04-2013, 10:34 AM
I don't wanna see a gay pride parade specially when they dress the way they do and act. Why must it be thrown upon the world they are gay to get a parade/march. Leave those for the real and appropriate reasons that have benefits from the events.
A bunch of guys wear leather ass-less chaps and using gag balls with chains walking our streets seriously ?!?!But I bet you're front and center when dragon-con comes around. Lol

-EnVus-
07-04-2013, 10:36 AM
But I bet you're front and center when dragon-con comes around. Lol
Nope wouldnt mind though you seen them chicks shesh lol j/p

.blank cd
07-04-2013, 10:38 AM
When are the parades even in back allys or not residential traveled streets where people like us or children use ?

Who cares? If seeing a mans bare ass is a challenge to your sexuality, you may not be as straight as you previously thought.

Sinfix_15
07-04-2013, 10:39 AM
I dont like how flamboyant *some* gay people are in public, but ultimately i view it the same as i do gun rights.

"freedom is dangerous"... well, freedom is also offensive. We cant have the freedom of expression while reducing that freedom to some specific groups. Having to put up with the dumb shit some people do in public is a necessary evil.

With that said, we also have the right to peaceful protest.... and you cant assault someone for disagreeing with you.


Last time i went to a Marilyn Manson concert there were a bunch of religious protesters holding signs and speaking with megaphones. To my amazement, the crowd was actually really nice to them. A lot of people stopped and had civil conversation with them or asked to take a picture.... i was honestly shocked by the manners of the "manson crowd"

Sinfix_15
07-04-2013, 10:40 AM
But I bet you're front and center when dragon-con comes around. Lol

I am!

David88vert
07-04-2013, 10:42 AM
You could always NOT go to a gay pride parade, then no one but gays would observe their activities in public. I've never heard of any gay people forcing straight people to go to gay pride parades.

I have never been to a gay pride parade, but I have seen tons of video and photos from them on national news. Obviously, not going to them does not work, as you are presented with them just the same.

So, where on the news can I find the "straight pride parade"?

David88vert
07-04-2013, 10:44 AM
Who cares? If seeing a mans bare ass is a challenge to your sexuality, you may not be as straight as you previously thought.

If a straight man shows his rear to a child, he goes to jail for exposing himself to a minor and is branded as a sex offender, is he not? It's ok if a gay person does it in a parade though?

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07-04-2013, 10:46 AM
Last time i went to a Marilyn Manson concert there were a bunch of religious protesters holding signs and speaking with megaphones. To my amazement, the crowd was actually really nice to them. A lot of people stopped and had civil conversation with them or asked to take a picture.... i was honestly shocked by the manners of the "manson crowd"There has literally been a study on the psychology of heavy metal listeners vs. classical music listeners and they are surprisingly very similar.

And Manson himself is a very intelligent and articulate individual.

.blank cd
07-04-2013, 10:48 AM
I have never been to a gay pride parade, but I have seen tons of video and photos from them on national news. Obviously, not going to them does not work, as you are presented with them just the same.

So, where on the news can I find the "straight pride parade"?

I don't think I've ever seen a gay pride parade, or much coverage of one

Maybe you're looking too hard.

.blank cd
07-04-2013, 10:49 AM
If a straight man shows his rear to a child, he goes to jail for exposing himself to a minor and is branded as a sex offender, is he not? It's ok if a gay person does it in a parade though?

Now lets examine intent in regards to American criminal law.

David88vert
07-04-2013, 10:51 AM
I don't think I've ever seen a gay pride parade, or much coverage of one

Maybe you're looking too hard.

Watch any of the local or national news. 11Alive did a whole massive event coverage on the local news last year.

David88vert
07-04-2013, 10:53 AM
Now lets examine intent in regards to American criminal law.

At the minimum, those not covering their rear should be legally charged with public indecency, correct? Amazingly, no one at a gay pride parade gets a ticket/charge for that.

.blank cd
07-04-2013, 10:57 AM
Watch any of the local or national news. 11Alive did a whole massive event coverage on the local news last year.

Didnt watch it. Gay pride parades don't interest me


At the minimum, those not covering their rear should be legally charged with public indecency, correct? Amazingly, no one at a gay pride parade gets a ticket/charge for that.

Everyone? Should all these people get tickets/charges?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/94/Beautiful_Buns_in_beautiful_string-bikinis.jpg

Sinfix_15
07-04-2013, 10:59 AM
At the minimum, those not covering their rear should be legally charged with public indecency, correct? Amazingly, no one at a gay pride parade gets a ticket/charge for that.

I dont understand how this works. Last time i went to mardi gras there were naked people everywhere. Cops would be standing to side around a sea of naked people. Then every so often they would just go arrest someone at random. There would be 15 girls with their tops off for the last hour, then a cop would just walk over and arrest someone. It was as if they just had a quota to meet of people to arrest.

I dont like the police having the authority to override the will of a peaceful group. For example, if a mother with two 5 year olds showed up at a mardi gras complaining about nudity, i think it would be better to remove the 5 year olds vs arrest the 1000s of people.

I understand the law.... but as always, i wish the law was more accommodating to the will of the people.

David88vert
07-04-2013, 11:00 AM
Didnt watch it. Gay pride parades don't interest me



Everyone? Should all these people get tickets/charges?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/94/Beautiful_Buns_in_beautiful_string-bikinis.jpg

You pick a swimming pool photo to compare to public streets?

Sinfix_15
07-04-2013, 11:02 AM
You pick a swimming pool photo to compare to public streets?

public is public.

.blank cd
07-04-2013, 11:03 AM
First pic of a bikini that popped up. There's no reasonable expectation of privacy on a public street, the same as there is in a public beach, where bikinis are also used.

.blank cd
07-04-2013, 11:06 AM
The feeling you feel when I asked you if girls in bikinis should get charged the same as men and you had to fight with what the answer should be and what you want it to be, that's cognitive dissonance.

Sinfix_15
07-04-2013, 11:14 AM
I am willing to tolerate this
http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2012/06/24/gaypride_AP120624031940_620x465.jpg

To protect this
http://blogs.ocweekly.com/heardmentality/san-diego-comic-con-2011-thursday.6942727.87.jpg

David88vert
07-04-2013, 11:16 AM
The feeling you feel when I asked you if girls in bikinis should get charged the same as men and you had to fight with what the answer should be and what you want it to be, that's cognitive dissonance.

No, cognitive dissonance is what you exhibit on a regular basis. If it was raining, you'd say that it wasn't raining where you were standing because you had an umbrella up. It would still be raining, but you wouldn't accept it.

The simple truth is that there is no "straight pride parade", only a "gay pride parade". A disproportionate amount of gays feel that they have to broadcast their sexual preference to the world very vocally and publically. You cannot argue against that, no matter how much you wish to. With any other group, psychologists would claim that they suffer from a disorder that causes them to need attention, yet here, people want to claim that it is "normal". I simply wish for them to be normal, but behaving in public like normal people, as many gays are quite willing and able to do. I used to do some work for a company completely manned by a gay staff - yet none of them felt the need to broadcast their sexual preference, and all of them kept their business to themselves. Why is that so difficult for others?

David88vert
07-04-2013, 11:17 AM
I am willing to tolerate this
http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2012/06/24/gaypride_AP120624031940_620x465.jpg

To protect this
http://blogs.ocweekly.com/heardmentality/san-diego-comic-con-2011-thursday.6942727.87.jpg

Both of those are covered legally. Neither is public indecency.

David88vert
07-04-2013, 11:18 AM
public is public.

Private pools are not public streets.


GEORGIA CODE
TITLE 16. CRIMES AND OFFENSES
CHAPTER 6. SEXUAL OFFENSES

O.C.G.A. § 16-6-8 (2007)

§ 16-6-8. Public indecency.

(a) A person commits the offense of public indecency when he or she performs any of the following acts in a public place:

(1) An act of sexual intercourse;

(2) A lewd exposure of the sexual organs;

(3) A lewd appearance in a state of partial or complete nudity; or

(4) A lewd caress or indecent fondling of the body of another person.

(b) A person convicted of the offense of public indecency as provided in subsection (a) of this Code section shall be punished as for a misdemeanor except as provided in subsection (c) of this Code section.

(c) Upon a third or subsequent conviction for public indecency for the violation of paragraph (2), (3), or (4) of subsection (a) of this Code section, a person shall be guilty of a felony and shall be punished by imprisonment for not less than one nor more than five years.

(d) For the purposes of this Code section only, "public place" shall include jails and penal and correctional institutions of the state and its political subdivisions.

(e) This Code section shall be cumulative to and shall not prohibit the enactment of any other general and local laws, rules, and regulations of state and local authorities or agencies and local ordinances prohibiting such activities which are more restrictive than this Code section.

.blank cd
07-04-2013, 11:28 AM
No, cognitive dissonance is what you exhibit on a regular basis. If it was raining, you'd say that it wasn't raining where you were standing because you had an umbrella up. It would still be raining, but you wouldn't accept it.

You go with that definition. I'll just go with what the psychology book says. Lol

.blank cd
07-04-2013, 11:29 AM
Private pools are not public streets.

No one is talking about a private pool.

David88vert
07-04-2013, 11:31 AM
You go with that definition. I'll just go with what the psychology book says. Lol

So, are you a psychologist again now? Or was that a scientist? Or was it a photographer, or a child care worker? LOL

.blank cd
07-04-2013, 11:32 AM
So, are you a psychologist again now? Or was that a scientist? Or was it a photographer, or a child care worker? LOL

None of those. Formally studying psychology doesn't make me a dr of psychology until I'd complete a graduate program.

David88vert
07-04-2013, 11:33 AM
No one is talking about a private pool.

Are you claiming that the shot you posted was taken at a public pool? Supporting evidence?
Are you claiming that there were officers there and they did not ticket them? Again, supporting evidence?

David88vert
07-04-2013, 11:34 AM
None of those.

So, politician or lawyer?

.blank cd
07-04-2013, 11:39 AM
So, politician or lawyer?

Neither of those either.

.blank cd
07-04-2013, 11:41 AM
Are you claiming that the shot you posted was taken at a public pool? Supporting evidence?
Are you claiming that there were officers there and they did not ticket them? Again, supporting evidence?

Not claiming it was taking at a public pool or that they weren't charged. The picture was used to illustrate the bare asses, not the location. I can give you a picture of a bikini on a public beach or street if it makes you feel better.

David88vert
07-04-2013, 11:42 AM
Neither of those either.

I see you went back and edited your earlier post. Are you still in school studying, or did you take a break from it? You sure seem to have a lot of time to post for someone who is actively in college, so I ask.

David88vert
07-04-2013, 11:43 AM
Not claiming it was taking at a public pool or that they weren't charged. The picture was used to illustrate the bare asses, not the location. I can give you a picture of a bikini on a public beach or street if it makes you feel better.

How about with a cop and the story that he choose not to ticket? Apples to apples.....

.blank cd
07-04-2013, 11:59 AM
I see you went back and edited your earlier post. Are you still in school studying, or did you take a break from it? You sure seem to have a lot of time to post for someone who is actively in college, so I ask.

Taking a soul gathering break.


How about with a cop and the story that he choose not to ticket? Apples to apples.....

I would also need a pic with a cop and a story that he chose not to ticket the gay guys. Apples to apples.

But I wasn't asking if they were ticketed, I was asking, in a given situation should a woman wearing revealing clothing be charged the same as a man wearing revealing clothing on the same public street?

-EnVus-
07-04-2013, 12:37 PM
Blank you seriously tried comparing people at a pool to gays doing this in public ??!?!

http://i43.tinypic.com/cqo2x.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/2r7wu0w.jpg

LMAO!!!

Sinfix_15
07-04-2013, 02:42 PM
Blank you seriously tried comparing people at a pool to gays doing this in public ??!?!

http://i43.tinypic.com/cqo2x.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/2r7wu0w.jpg

LMAO!!!

Those people should be arrested. Some cities do allow women to go topless in public though. Nipples are not sexual organs and some would say men being allowed to display them and women not is sexist.

The law should be more specific. "Do not show your penis or vagina in public"

BanginJimmy
07-04-2013, 03:33 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/94/Beautiful_Buns_in_beautiful_string-bikinis.jpg


The fact that 7 girls standing together wearing what appears to be the same bikini should have set off some sort of red flag about that particular pic.

Also, string bikinis are outlawed at most public beaches.

Here is an article from 1990 in Florida.

Daily News - Google News Archive Search (http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1241&dat=19900614&id=YHpTAAAAIBAJ&sjid=D4YDAAAAIBAJ&pg=3352,1678792)



I understand the law.... but as always, i wish the law was more accommodating to the will of the people.

Lynch mobs should be back in style huh?


Those people should be arrested. Some cities do allow women to go topless in public though. Nipples are not sexual organs and some would say men being allowed to display them and women not is sexist.

The law should be more specific. "Do not show your penis or vagina in public"

What happened to will of the people? You will find that a VAST majority of the American public, both men and women, are against women walking around topless. A woman's breasts are considered a sexual organ, just not a reproductive one.

David88vert
07-04-2013, 03:57 PM
I would also need a pic with a cop and a story that he chose not to ticket the gay guys. Apples to apples.

But I wasn't asking if they were ticketed, I was asking, in a given situation should a woman wearing revealing clothing be charged the same as a man wearing revealing clothing on the same public street?

There were plenty of gay exhibitionists on June 30th in SF and NYC, and there were thousands of police along the route, but no arrests or tickets reported for public indecency or lewd behavior. How 'bout them apples?

If a woman is breaking the law, then she should receive the same treatment that a man would if he was breaking the law.

Bacon
07-05-2013, 07:58 PM
If any of this affects anyone's daily life, you have serious issues. Who cares what gay and lesbian people do in their lives? Who cares if they take a weekend to celebrate their pride? Gay and lesbian couples don't have some of the things straight people do. If you cant see a homosexual individual as an equal human being, reevaluate your life and move on.

Sent from my Galaxy Note II

Sinfix_15
07-06-2013, 02:14 PM
If any of this affects anyone's daily life, you have serious issues. Who cares what gay and lesbian people do in their lives? Who cares if they take a weekend to celebrate their pride? Gay and lesbian couples don't have some of the things straight people do. If you cant see a homosexual individual as an equal human being, reevaluate your life and move on.

Sent from my Galaxy Note II

but but but.... how am i supposed to enjoy my own bedroom without knowing that i have control over someone else's bedroom?!?!? lol


I wish the US was more sexually liberated in general. I dont understand the need for so many things to be criminalized and/or controlled.

Sinfix_15
07-07-2013, 01:00 PM
The fact that 7 girls standing together wearing what appears to be the same bikini should have set off some sort of red flag about that particular pic.

Also, string bikinis are outlawed at most public beaches.

Here is an article from 1990 in Florida.

Daily News - Google News Archive Search (http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1241&dat=19900614&id=YHpTAAAAIBAJ&sjid=D4YDAAAAIBAJ&pg=3352,1678792)




Lynch mobs should be back in style huh?



What happened to will of the people? You will find that a VAST majority of the American public, both men and women, are against women walking around topless. A woman's breasts are considered a sexual organ, just not a reproductive one.

The will of the people in a smaller portion size. "the will of the people" could be interpreted by applying a national vote to every state. Most of dont support that right? it seems better to let each individual state decide it's own will to some extent. What i feel is that it should be extended a little bit further than that...

Example: There's a place in Florida i usually go to celebrate memorial day. There's cops at the front gate and that's it. Once you go inside it's more or less lawless. Bunch of people partying, getting naked, drinking, smoking ect ect.... Everyone there knows what to expect. The will of that group collectively is that these things are ok. As long as nobody is being harmed, what would be the benefit of police enforcing the indecent exposure law on that group for example?

I'm talking about the will of individual groups when theyre secluded and not causing harm.

How do you relate this to a lynch mob? As long as whatever you're doing isnt harming anyone else, i dont see the problem. Why dont we enforce the noise ordinance at a rock concert? the speed limit at a race track?



My only issue with homosexuals is that they dont seem to want to go to a rock concert to play their rock music, they always want to have a concert in the library. Being seen by people who do not want to see them appears to be part of the goal.

bu villain
07-08-2013, 03:51 PM
I definitely don't condone assault but I honestly don't give a shit about gay pride parades. If people are breaking laws and they get arrested, that's on them. I personally find fat chicks in short skirts and cut off tops about as disgusting as a dude's bare ass but I don't need a law to protect me from either.

Vteckidd
07-08-2013, 04:05 PM
I don't think I've ever seen a gay pride parade, or much coverage of one

Maybe you're looking too hard.

live downtown. They have gay pride parades every weekend it seems.

Doesnt bother me though, like any protest, as long as its civil to other people not participating, then I have no problem with it.

Vteckidd
07-08-2013, 04:07 PM
At a public pool, i would think thongs are prohibited. They should be asked to leave.