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Sinfix_15
05-20-2013, 07:51 AM
In commencement speech President Obama tells college grads that financial success should not be their goal in life (http://redalertpolitics.com/2013/05/19/in-commencement-speech-president-obama-tells-college-grads-the-purpose-of-business-should-not-solely-be-to-make-money/)

bu villain
05-20-2013, 03:03 PM
Is telling people their goal should be to help others and not just themselves controversial now?

Sinfix_15
05-20-2013, 03:15 PM
Is telling people their goal should be to help others and not just themselves controversial now?

Yes, telling people what their goals should be is controversial.

.blank cd
05-20-2013, 03:16 PM
Is telling people their goal should be to help others and not just themselves controversial now?

Thank you!

Why people think *radical* individualism is a desirable goal is beyond me.

Vteckidd
05-20-2013, 03:16 PM
In commencement speech President Obama tells college grads that financial success should not be their goal in life (http://redalertpolitics.com/2013/05/19/in-commencement-speech-president-obama-tells-college-grads-the-purpose-of-business-should-not-solely-be-to-make-money/)

Ehhh thats just the kind of rabble rousing most commencement speakers give TBH. its all about helping people and doing the global work, not the individual self. Ive been to about 5 Graduations, and its all the same spiel. No one actually listens to it.

The guy that gave GSUs commencement speech was a 28 year old kid who was co-founder of FACEBOOK. He sat there talking about work.........and I LOLed, kid youre 28 and his estimated net worth is 500 million. What the fuck does he know about working? He created something that made him millions. Good for him, but hardly the norm. Thought it was funny.

But in general, thats kind of the theme of most graduations, you achieve individually but graduate as a collective, with various degrees of study, so its more of a "GO FORTH AND BETTER THE WORLD" type deal. It would be really shitty if he said "FUCK EVERYONE ELSE, GO GET DAT MONEY, DOLLA DOLLA BILLZ YALL"

Sinfix_15
05-20-2013, 03:21 PM
Thank you!

Why people think *radical* individualism is a desirable goal is beyond me.

Why is individualism radical?

.blank cd
05-20-2013, 03:22 PM
Obama tells Moorehouse graduates there's more to life than the pursuit of unimaginable wealth and conservatives manage to find something wrong with that message. LMAO.

Good job, America. This is what you've reduced political discourse to. ANYTHING Obama says is unequivocally wrong.

.blank cd
05-20-2013, 03:22 PM
Why is individualism radical?

Radical individualism.

Sinfix_15
05-20-2013, 03:24 PM
Obama tells Moorehouse graduates there's more to life than the pursuit of unimaginable wealth and conservatives manage to find something wrong with that message. LMAO.

Good job, America. This is what you've reduced political discourse to. ANYTHING Obama says is unequivocally wrong.

Who said "unimaginable wealth" ?

I want people to do whatever makes them happy, whether it be retiring early, having a lot of money, being a public servant, owning a business... ect ect ect.....

Its you who thinks everyone should fit your mold and cater to your ideology.

Sinfix_15
05-20-2013, 03:25 PM
Radical individualism.

What makes it radical? Why say radical???

I want to take care of myself and my family. While i wish your family the best, i dont want to take care of you. That is radical?

.blank cd
05-20-2013, 03:29 PM
Who said "unimaginable wealth" ?

I want people to do whatever makes them happy, whether it be retiring early, having a lot of money, being a public servant, owning a business... ect ect ect..

So then you think there was nothing wrong with his message?

Sinfix_15
05-20-2013, 03:30 PM
So then you think there was nothing wrong with his message?

I didnt say it was "wrong" to begin with, i just posted the link.....

It's more of an ironic thing to me..... Obama saying financial success should not be your goal....

.blank cd
05-20-2013, 03:32 PM
From now own, anyone who says some kinda BS about people only going into business for money, Im going to immediately follow it with this quote from Obama:

"The most successful CEOs I know didn’t start out intent just on making money — rather, they had a vision of how their product or service would change things, and the money followed,”

Sinfix_15
05-20-2013, 03:34 PM
From now own, anyone who says some kinda BS about people only going into business for money, Im going to immediately follow it with this quote from Obama:

"The most successful CEOs I know didn’t start out intent just on making money — rather, they had a vision of how their product or service would change things, and the money followed,”

Unless their vision is to provide affordable fuel to americans via oil or coal. In that case...... the government regulations follow.

.blank cd
05-20-2013, 03:44 PM
Unless their vision is to provide affordable fuel to americans via oil or coal. In that case...... the government regulations follow.

Yeah. No money following in the oil industry. None.

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2006/12/Oil_Gas_Operations_Rank_1.html

http://www.celebritynetworth.com/dl/hamad-bin-hamdan-al-nahyan/

Sinfix_15
05-20-2013, 04:10 PM
Or if your calling in life is to fight for lower taxes and more civil liberties for americans...... in that case, the IRS follows.....

Sinfix_15
05-20-2013, 04:11 PM
or maybe you want to be a member of the press and make your government more transparent to the public...... in that case, the DOJ follows

Sinfix_15
05-20-2013, 04:12 PM
Liberals - Fighting for your freedom to chose to do exactly what they want you to do!

Elbow
05-20-2013, 04:23 PM
In commencement speech President Obama tells college grads that financial success should not be their goal in life

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lp5rtqrVDu1qaj18co1_400.jpg

Sinfix_15
05-20-2013, 04:46 PM
Another raging liberal has returned to the politics section...... just in time too...... blankcd has been getting beat like a pinata for weeks, he needed someone to give him a breather.

Elbow
05-20-2013, 08:39 PM
Another raging liberal has returned to the politics section...... just in time too...... blankcd has been getting beat like a pinata for weeks, he needed someone to give him a breather.

I seriously laughed out loud at me being a "raging liberal."

Echonova
05-20-2013, 09:00 PM
I agree with Vteckidd... Most commencement speeches are full of pap anyway. I see nothing inherently wrong with Obama saying what he said.


Never seen anyone have a U-haul truck behind a Hurst. At the end, what good does wealth do you? Making money isn't evil, nor is dedicating your life to a cause you believe in...

They don't have to be mutually exclusive, and depending on how it's earned (ie: not robbing, stealing or lying to get it). Neither is wrong.


It's my goal to die broke... Not leave my kids with any debt, but die broke. I made my way, I expect my children to do no less.


Just my 2 cents.

Julio
05-20-2013, 09:34 PM
Who would've thought.

Julio
05-20-2013, 09:37 PM
Is this true ?

Echonova
05-20-2013, 09:59 PM
Is this true ?I have no idea.










































But dear God as a man I hope so.

Sinfix_15
05-21-2013, 06:53 AM
Who would've thought.

Obama as a pirate.....

shoe fits....

bu villain
05-21-2013, 01:58 PM
Yes, telling people what their goals should be is controversial.

Go rape women and murder cripples if that's what your heart desires but do you really think no one should tell you that certain goals aren't admirable?

The president stated, “No one expects you to take a vow of poverty. But I will say it betrays a poverty of ambition if all you think about is what goods you can buy instead of what good you can do.” As others have pointed out, this is about as plain vanilla of a commencement speech as you will ever see. How is this worthy of discussion in any form?

.blank cd
05-21-2013, 02:06 PM
Go rape women and murder cripples if that's what your heart desires.I would write Obama in for a 3rd term if he said this.


How is this worthy of discussion in any form?BECAUSE WHO DOES THAT SOCIALIST THINK HE IS TELLING ME WHAT I CAN'T DO WITH MY LIFE.

Sinfix_15
05-21-2013, 02:35 PM
Go rape women and murder cripples if that's what your heart desires but do you really think no one should tell you that certain goals aren't admirable?

The president stated, “No one expects you to take a vow of poverty. But I will say it betrays a poverty of ambition if all you think about is what goods you can buy instead of what good you can do.” As others have pointed out, this is about as plain vanilla of a commencement speech as you will ever see. How is this worthy of discussion in any form?

If only the government could take it's own advice......

This coming from Obama is ironic to me... that's all. But i understand it's just a generic speech... i dont have issues, but if i did i should take them up with the teleprompter.

.blank cd
05-21-2013, 02:39 PM
teleprompter.
All this device does is put in front of him speeches he has written so that he doesn't have to look down at the podium. What makes you think he doesn't write his own speeches?

Sinfix_15
05-21-2013, 02:41 PM
All this device does is put in front of him speeches he has written so that he doesn't have to look down at the podium. What makes you think he doesn't write his own speeches?

You think the president doesnt have speech writers?

You're really eating out of the palm of his hand arent you?

.blank cd
05-21-2013, 02:55 PM
You think the president doesnt have speech writers?

You're really eating out of the palm of his hand arent you?

What do you think the job of a speech writer is? Do you think Obama has ZERO input in the speeches he reads?

David88vert
05-21-2013, 03:03 PM
All this device does is put in front of him speeches he has written so that he doesn't have to look down at the podium. What makes you think he doesn't write his own speeches?

Lookup Cody Keenan - he is one of sever WH speechwriters. I thought that you would at least know this.

.blank cd
05-21-2013, 03:05 PM
Lookup Cody Keenan - he is one of sever WH speechwriters. I thought that you would at least know this.

Do you believe Obama has ZERO input on the speeches he reads?

David88vert
05-21-2013, 03:08 PM
Do you believe Obama has ZERO input on the speeches he reads?

No. Obama works with his speechwriters. He gives them plenty of input - there are even some photos around of them working together on speeches.
He doesn't sit there and pen/write all of his own speeches.

bu villain
05-21-2013, 03:19 PM
Exactly right. This is how all presidents do it. Press conferences, speeches, etc. are all largely scripted. Obama is not unique in this respect. If only Rick Perry had a teleprompter, he might have been able to remember which three government agencies he wanted to dissolve.

.blank cd
05-21-2013, 03:19 PM
No. Obama works with his speechwriters. He gives them plenty of input - there are even some photos around of them working together on speeches.
He doesn't sit there and pen/write all of his own speeches.

I don't think he does either. But I sure as hell don't think someone's sitting behind the monitor with nefarious intentions typing up what they want him to say. It's just a teleprompter. Like conservatives say...."it's just a tool"

Sinfix_15
05-21-2013, 04:59 PM
I don't think he does either. But I sure as hell don't think someone's sitting behind the monitor with nefarious intentions typing up what they want him to say. It's just a teleprompter. Like conservatives say...."it's just a tool"

Yep, tools only serve the purpose of the person using the tool. In this case, the teleprompter is much more dangerous than any firearm ever made. With a gun you can gain control over someone with the threat of force..... Obama's teleprompter has manipulated millions into voluntarily surrendering control over their own lives.

.blank cd
05-21-2013, 05:07 PM
Yep, tools only serve the purpose of the person using the tool. In this case, the teleprompter is much more dangerous than any firearm ever made. With a gun you can gain control over someone with the threat of force..... Obama's teleprompter has manipulated millions into voluntarily surrendering control over their own lives.

If that's what you believe...