The GA Valorem Tax can suck it !!!

[MOWE]

So I just moved here a few months back....I finally had some time to get my Ga license and register my 2 vehicles in GA. I go down to the DDS and take care of the license....smooth and easy. I then go over to the Tax office to register my vehicle.

They proceed to tell me about the Valorem tax that has gone into effect on March 1. They state that I will not have to pay taxes on these two vehicles again as long as I own them...HOWEVER....to register my vehicle today they would like.....


$3,498 ....WTF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Now I am stuck as I cannot get my CT license back.......great news !

[ISAtlanta300]

Yea it blows...... your situation I would just opt out and just pay the ad valorem each year until you sell them.....:(

[Potter]

That's a lot of money, what kind of vehicles are you registering?

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I paid $140 for my tags and ad valorem :D

[MOWE]

From everything I have read and been told by the DDS there is no ability to OPT out. If you have something that says different please send it over....I wish I could !!!!

I have a 2005 Mini Cooper S and a 2011 Corvette....

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That's a lot of money, what kind of vehicles are you registering?

Probably some newer more expensive cars. He would have paid that much if he bought them from a dealer. They're just trying to get sales tax from used cars.

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From everything I have read and been told by the DDS there is no ability to OPT out. If you have something that says different please send it over....I wish I could !!!!

I have a 2005 Mini Cooper S and a 2011 Corvette....

If you bought it between 1/1/12 and 2/28/13 you can opt in if you want, if you buy it after 3/1/13, you're in, if you bought it before 1/1/12, you're out until they phase the system out

[MOWE]

Probably some newer more expensive cars. He would have paid that much if he bought them from a dealer. They're just trying to get sales tax from used cars.


yeah but I paid 6.5% sales tax when I bought the vehicles...I also paid taxes for every year I have owned them in my home state..

If I sold these any of these vehicles over the next 3 years I would screwed myself...I would need to own both for 5 years to recoop this initial cost...it really is a horrible system

[MOWE]

If you bought it between 1/1/12 and 2/28/13 you can opt in if you want, if you buy it after 3/1/13, you're in, if you bought it before 1/1/12, you're out until they phase the system out

I read that but from what I read it only applies if you bought the vehicles in GA...I did not.

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yeah but I paid 6.5% sales tax when I bought the vehicles...I also paid taxes for every year I have owned them in my home state..

If I sold these any of these vehicles over the next 3 years I would screwed myself...I would need to own both for 5 years to recoop this initial cost...it really is a horrible systemIm pretty sure you dont have to opt in. The lady here in Woodstock asked if I wanted to but told me it was cheaper in my case to opt in. I signed a doc saying I wanted to opt in, paid 140, got my sticker and skidaddled. Bought my car brand new may. Birthday is tomorrow.

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I read that but from what I read it only applies if you bought the vehicles in GA...I did not.Ahhh, this changes things I think. I'm not sure in your case.

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From what Im seeing, if you bought it out of state between 1/1/12 and now, and/or this is the first time your out of state car, you're stuck paying the taxes on it as if it were new in this state. However, one clerk was telling someone else they had a year to pay it all.

[SHHHH]

My GT500 I opted to transfer the state taxes over so I do no have to pay ad valorem ever again on it. With my FJ Cruiser I paid ad valorem because I was told since I bought it out of state I could not transfer over the taxes. Even though I paid GA taxes on it when I purchased it in NY. Well I get my new sticker in the mail and with it is a piece of paper saying I can opt out of ad valorem if I purchased the car in 2012(Also no ad valorem refunds if you had already paid:2up:). I get on the phone and call the tag office.

They are currently looking into how I can get a refund for my FJ Cruiser ad valorem and are unsure how to deal with the issue. They said others also have this problem(Paid for GA state taxes while purchasing the vehicles in another state). They told me to call back in a couple weeks.

[Doppelgänger]

So I wonder what would happen if someone were to pay the "lifetime" tax and move out of state soon after. Any refund? If they move back, does the state honor the initial tax paymant and not require it to re-register?

So glad I'm still on the birthday system.

[SHHHH]

So glad I'm still on the birthday system.

Screw that. I already paid sales taxes why would I want to pay ad valorem on top of it. Now I don't have too.

[MOWE]

they didnt think through all the issues with this system....

At least I can write it off at the end of the year....

and no if you sell the car you do not get ANY money back....its a done deal !



TY GA !!!!!!

[SHHHH]

they didnt think through all the issues with this system....

At least I can write it off at the end of the year....

and no if you sell the car you do not get ANY money back....its a done deal !



TY GA !!!!!!

Ya but its not like you are paying sales tax on a new car and then paying the one time fee on top of it. You don't get any sales tax back after you sell a car either. I'm saving over $1000 just this year alone. Each year after is just icing on the cake. I think its a great program :goodjob:

[MOWE]

I agree with that going forward...so If I buy a new car now...then I just pay that and no sales tax....and my tax for cars is complete !

That part is good...

But this intial BUY in to the program really sucks...and especially for newbies who move her now....its a HUGE expense up front.

[CSquared]

Wow thats some bullshit. There has to be a difference vetween buying out of state and transfering a car you already own from out of state. Id make another visit and try to clarify.

[MOWE]

Wow thats some bullshit. There has to be a difference vetween buying out of state and transfering a car you already own from out of state. Id make another visit and try to clarify.

Brother there isnt....Spoke with 4 people on the phone...2 people in the office..and escalated to 2 supervisors...

unless they are all dumb...which in all honesty could be...lol...it is what it is

[Manny Naber]

^ I'm a dealer and all this new shit has everything in a shit storm. It is not going to work out like the state had planned.

They should have just kept the system the same...and just charged sales tax on private sales...that's it. That's all they wanted anyways.

[Sinfix_15]

Probably some newer more expensive cars. He would have paid that much if he bought them from a dealer. They're just trying to get sales tax from used cars.

Yeah, even though our government is currently operating on 3x the 2nd highest budget in the history of humanity, what they need is more tax revenue.

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Yeah, even though our government is currently operating on 3x the 2nd highest budget in the history of humanity, what they need is more tax revenue.First it's Obama never passed a budget, now it's the highest budget in the history of humanity. Which is it? I can't keep up with the conservative mind juggle anymore. Lol. More and more I'm thinking macroeconomics classes should be mandatory to pass high school.

This discussion has nothing to do with the federal government at all BTW.

[Catnip]

Think I'd be inclined to drive without a tag, lol.

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^ I'm a dealer and all this new shit has everything in a shit storm. It is not going to work out like the state had planned.

They should have just kept the system the same...and just charged sales tax on private sales...that's it. That's all they wanted anyways.

Sales tax on used cars would have never passed in a million years. They had to give a little to get that.

What they should've given in on is the ass backwards emission laws in this state.

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Think I'd be inclined to drive without a tag, lol.

I would hate getting pulled over every day and accruing so many tickets.

[CSquared]

Think I'd be inclined to drive without a tag, lol.

I wonder how expensive the ticket is for driving without a current tag. I've got to imagine a shit ton less then $3k.

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$150 a pop plus points on your license.

[Manny Naber]

Red dealer tag ftw

[Aeroscout977]

First it's Obama never passed a budget, now it's the highest budget in the history of humanity. Which is it? I can't keep up with the conservative mind juggle anymore. Lol. More and more I'm thinking macroeconomics classes should be mandatory to pass high school.

This discussion has nothing to do with the federal government at all BTW.

Macroeconomics was required at South Cobb High School to graduate back in 2003.... One of the worse schools in metro Atlanta... Don't think the requirement would help anything lol.

[Catnip]

I would hate getting pulled over every day and accruing so many tickets.


I can usually ride around for 30 days before getting pulled over for no tag. Then I can usually talk my way out of it due to where I work, lol. I'm either continuing to drive POS cars/trucks or riding with no tag. I'm not paying over $150 to get my tag.

[RL...]

If you didnt recently buy the cars, you shouldn't have to pay anything right? If you own the car and just need to register it here why should you have to pay a tax for nothing?

[RL...]

Just found this. What a rip off.

The New Title Ad Valorem Tax

Starting March 1, it will cost more to register and title a vehicle in Georgia. The annual ad valorem tax, paid on a person’s birthday, will remain for people who owned their cars before 2012. But for everyone else, a new law will mean changes to the way vehicles are taxed. For some, it will mean big savings. For others, it will be a big expense.

Under the new law, the fee for all vehicles titled between March 1 and the end of 2013 will be 6.5 percent of the worth of the vehicle. The figure will rise to 6.75 percent for 2014, and 7 percent in 2015. It eventually could climb as high as 9 percent of the vehicle’s worth.
Those who bought cars between Jan. 1, 2012, and Feb. 28, 2013, will have the option to pay the ad valorem tax for the life of their car, or to opt into the new title tax. The opt-in period lasts from March 1 until the end of 2013. Those who opt in will not get refunded for any ad valorem they already paid, but will get credit for paying sales tax if the car was not purchased in a private sale.
The old ad valorem tax system will continue to exist for vehicles titled in 2011 or earlier.
People who lease cars will continue to pay sales tax and the dealership will pay the title ad valorem tax. Dealerships could include the cost of that tax in their fees.
People who move into Georgia with a car after March 1 will have to pay the new tax on any vehicles entering into the state when they register their cars in Georgia. New out-of-state residents will have to pay half the fee up front, and will have a year to pay the rest.
Vehicles passed between immediate family members — spouses, parents, children, siblings, grandparents or grandchildren — will pay a reduced fee of 0.5 percent of the car’s worth to title the vehicle, provided the full one-time title ad valorem tax already has been paid.
People who were exempt from paying the annual car tax, such as disabled veterans, are exempt from the new tax.
Vehicles that are older than 1985, and are not required to have titles, are only affected if the owner decides to get a title after March 1.
Vehicles that aren’t titled, such as boats and trailers, aren’t affected by the new law.

[Sinfix_15]

First it's Obama never passed a budget, now it's the highest budget in the history of humanity. Which is it? I can't keep up with the conservative mind juggle anymore. Lol. More and more I'm thinking macroeconomics classes should be mandatory to pass high school.

This discussion has nothing to do with the federal government at all BTW.

thanx for correcting me....... a budget would imply there was some limit on spending.

[ISAtlanta300]

Think I'd be inclined to drive without a tag, lol.

Sadly, your comment will be kind of prophetic. There are probably going to be a lot of vehicles driving around with expired or no tags and no insurance this year.....

[D3UC3S]

Well...looks like i will be buying '85 and older. Fuck a title and the greedy GA gov't.

[SHHHH]

Sadly, your comment will be kind of prophetic. There are probably going to be a lot of vehicles driving around with expired or no tags and no insurance this year.....

Why? Older cars can stay on the old program. Newer cars for the most part do not even have to buy into it since you paid sales tax on it. The only effect will be when buying a used car and having to pay this new fee.

[Catnip]

Well...looks like i will be buying '85 and older. Fuck a title and the greedy GA gov't.

Funny story. Those sorry sons of bitches wanted something like $130 to renew the registration on my '72 Mercedes. I drove around with no tag for a few months (keep in mind, I drove it like 4 times over about 6 months), went to the tag office, asked for the tag from my Galant to be transferred to the Mercedes and it was only like $18 (not sure on the exact number since I did 2 vehicles at once)

[ISAtlanta300]

Newer cars for the most part do not even have to buy into it since you paid sales tax on it.

Unless you bought from third party, ... private seller. You get hit with a couple thousand dollar bill depending on the car value. Also, everyone moving in from out of state gets hit with thousands of dollars bill. It will be a lot of money out of pocket for a good amount of people. Even with me opting in, I had to pay close to $300 while my ad valorem was usually around $260 (and I paid sales tax when I bought my car). Extra $40 for me, and I have a used car....

[Andr3w]

So my gf just bought a used car from a dealership and paid sales tax. That means she's exempt from all this right?

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So my gf just bought a used car from a dealership and paid sales tax. That means she's exempt from all this right?
If she bought it after 3/1, yes. Her taxes are rolled into what she paid. She'll go down to the DMV on her birthday and renew her tags for $20.

[MOWE]

Yup..and I bet on her sales documents it doesnt say sales tax....

[Subleg4]

I bought my truck from dealership on 3/2/13, done and done already paid,

My cousin is buying a truck tomorrow from a private party and its going to cost him $650 to get it street legal

[Andr3w]

If she bought it after 3/1, yes. Her taxes are rolled into what she paid. She'll go down to the DMV on her birthday and renew her tags for $20.

Well she bought it on 3/8. She'll have to get her tag April 8th.






Yup..and I bet on her sales documents it doesnt say sales tax....

It actually does say sales tax.

[On_Her_Face]

This is why owning SC property is great , register new cars there and tax on a new car is $300 for a Kia or a Bentley... or that is how it was in 2009. :goodjob:

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Well she bought it on 3/8. She'll have to get her tag April 8th.
So she will go to the DMV on April 8th, pay $20 for the sticker + whatever the actual plate costs (unless they rolled that into the cost of the car, in which case, they'll mail a receipt, and you go pick it up). Next year on her birthday, she'll go to the DMV and pay $20 for just the sticker.

I paid for my tags separate cause I didn't want them to send me that fruitcake ass license plate.

[MOWE]

Well she bought it on 3/8. She'll have to get her tag April 8th.







It actually does say sales tax.

Strange...wonder why it says sales tax...

[Black R]

Op, I'd suggest you keep your license and vehicles registered to your home state for another year or so..,

[Elbow]

I paid for my tags separate cause I didn't want them to send me that fruitcake ass license plate.

I walked in, renewed my current cars, registered a new car, paid $100 or so for both, they asked what plate I wanted, handed it to me, done.

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Strange...wonder why it says sales tax...

Cause it probably comes pre-printed on the dealership paperwork and the carbon copy forms you have to sign. It still is technically sales tax

[MOWE]

Op, I'd suggest you keep your license and vehicles registered to your home state for another year or so..,



I am for one of my cars...I had to do the other one however due to the emissions/reg being up on it...So it was either that or run it w/an expired reg...

Being pulled over and then having our car towed.... = more expense in the end so I bit the bullet...

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I walked in, renewed my current cars, registered a new car, paid $100 or so for both, they asked what plate I wanted, handed it to me, done.

Yeah. When I bought the car, they were gonna roll it all in and just send me the tag and sticker in the mail. That was right after they rolled out those country calendar ass license plates. I didnt want to take a chance on them sending that shit. Lol.

[ISAtlanta300]

I paid for my tags separate cause I didn't want them to send me that fruitcake ass license plate.

I think they actually stopped making those plates too.... lol... I have a vanity plate and asked the clerk if I'm eventually going to get the new Georgia design plates and she told me they stopped making them....

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Good. What an utter waste of money. Such a sorry ass design.