Speeding ticket Question

[C230K]

I got a speeding ticket today, I was going 48 in a 35. The cop said that he clocked me going 48 going downhill, my question is does he suppose to show me that he clocked me at that speed or just say it? Is there a way I can fight it? I hate that my insurance will go up and it was in Doraville

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Can you prove where he was standing where he clocked you?

[C230K]

Can you prove where he was standing where he clocked you?

You mean where he clocked me?

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Where the cop car was standing when he clocked you

[C230K]

Where the cop car was standing when he clocked you

He was right there in the entrance of the 99 Ranch (Asian Plaza) facing Buford Hwy and I was driving like going towards Shallowford Rd

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He was right there in the entrance of the 99 Ranch (Asian Plaza) facing Buford Hwy and I was driving like going towards Shallowford Rd

He can't use his speed detection on a hill and he has to be visible for 500 ft.

[C230K]

He can't use his speed detection on a hill and he has to be visible for 500 ft.

Really is this a law? He wasn't visible either, he was in the dark and he even said it himself that he clocked me going downhill.

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Really is this a law? He wasn't visible either, he was in the dark and he even said it himself that he clocked me going downhill.

I don't know if dark will cover it. I think he's gotta be behind something or behind a hill. You need to take pics of where he was sitting.

[Hermin]

Why would you insurance go up? LOL the ticket is 13 over. Won't go on your record. It's just a fine.

[C230K]

I don't know if dark will cover it. I think he's gotta be behind something or behind a hill. You need to take pics of where he was sitting.

Ill try and take pics if I can tomorrow


Why would you insurance go up? LOL the ticket is 13 over. Won't go on your record. It's just a fine.

I just thought that it will go up for that reason, my driving history isnt exactly something Im proud of. Don't tickets show up when a cop pulls up your driving record?

[quickdodge®]

I just thought that it will go up for that reason, my driving history isnt exactly something Im proud of. Don't tickets show up when a cop pulls up your driving record?

The correct answer is that yes, your ticket will show up on your record. It just won't be worth any points (depending on your age, I think). So the insurance company can see it. At thirteen miles over, it's close to the normal fifteen and they may up it.

[§treet_§peed]

If you are under 21, get ready for it to go up.

[Bacon]

If you are under 21, get ready for it to go up.

Yep.

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[ssonsk]

Does anything happen after you turn 21? :o

[§treet_§peed]

Yea it can still go up. Not as much, since most insurance drivers consider you a more mature adult, but it still goes up.

[quickdodge®]

Yea it can still go up. Not as much, since most insurance drivers consider you a more mature adult, but it still goes up.

Not necessarily true. Insurance tends to climb until you reach 25. THAT is when they start considering you a more mature adult. But it still won't stop premiums from going up if you keep getting tickets.

[Hermin]

The ticket will not go on your driving record, therefore insurance will not be able to see it. Your insurance won't be affected by a 13mph over speeding ticket. Go to the court and ask.

[quickdodge®]

Go to the court and ask.

No need, sir. I already know. Hence why the answer I gave, I gave. There are some things, Nermin, that it appears you're not aware of in this process.

[Sinfix_15]

Does anything happen after you turn 21? :o

I remember it going down @ 25

[keevo54]

The correct answer is that yes, your ticket will show up on your record. It just won't be worth any points (depending on your age, I think). So the insurance company can see it. At thirteen miles over, it's close to the normal fifteen and they may up it.

Unless they changed things it should not show up on your record. 14 and under is a local violation and is not reported to the state

[quickdodge®]

Unless they changed things it should not show up on your record. 14 and under is a local violation and is not reported to the state

A moving violation is a moving violation and will go on your record. If fifteen miles per hour and under, it will reflect that as no points towards your total. Now the judge can throw it out by changing it to another charge that will not be a moving violation to keep it off your record.

[1moreaccord]

QD is correct - It will go on your record with no points, and insurance will be able to see it. Furthermore if you are under 21 which it sounds like OP is, insurance will go up. Not right away, but when the policy renewal comes around they have another ticket to negotiate in there.

OP sounds like you are not denying that you were speeding 48 in a 35 - Just trying to sneak the ticket off. My advice is show up to the court hearing, everytime I've done that they decrease the speed and the fine = win / win, just for showing up and taking some initiative. Take responsibility for your actions, pay the fine and don't do 48 in a 35.

[Browning151]

He can't use his speed detection on a hill

If the grade is in excess of 7 percent. This one also covers distances from speed limit change.

O.C.G.A 40-14-9 (http://web.lexisnexis.com/research/retrieve?_m=94aefc9f953d9547186f3d2f3ee22b3f&docnum=1&_fmtstr=FULL&_startdoc=1&wchp=dGLbVzk-zSkAl&_md5=541e27fee33ddf2b2ac214c47736f46e)


and he has to be visible for 500 ft.

The 500 ft. is correct though.

O.C.G.A 40-14-7 (http://web.lexisnexis.com/research/retrieve?_m=9e69a14cc2d34f29b2609b5571faa0c6&docnum=1&_fmtstr=FULL&_startdoc=1&wchp=dGLbVzt-zSkAl&_md5=df4e2c245392cbcbff28dffe723893ab)

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If the grade is in excess of 7 percent. This one also covers distances from speed limit change.

O.C.G.A 40-14-9 (http://web.lexisnexis.com/research/retrieve?_m=94aefc9f953d9547186f3d2f3ee22b3f&docnum=1&_fmtstr=FULL&_startdoc=1&wchp=dGLbVzk-zSkAl&_md5=541e27fee33ddf2b2ac214c47736f46e)



The 500 ft. is correct though.

O.C.G.A 40-14-7 (http://web.lexisnexis.com/research/retrieve?_m=9e69a14cc2d34f29b2609b5571faa0c6&docnum=1&_fmtstr=FULL&_startdoc=1&wchp=dGLbVzt-zSkAl&_md5=df4e2c245392cbcbff28dffe723893ab)
I got out of one where the grade was less than 7%, cop tried to claim he was far enough away from the hill. I made the hill look steeper than it was with pics and surveyed the area. Judge gave me the W.

[Browning151]

Hey, if you can make it work why not? I'm sure some judges are more lenient on that law than others, especially if you can make it appear steeper than it is.

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Believe me, the justice system is all about who can paint the better picture. It helps when you go in and catch them off guard.

[C230K]

Im 23 by the way and I dont mind paying the fine its just that I already pay a lot for insurance. Allstate doesnt forgives on tickets.

[e.mury]

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[Doppelgänger]

A local ordinance violation does not show up on DDS record IIRC. I've gotten a few things that I have had changed to such and they were not present when I requested a 5-year MVR (they were definitely within the 5 years when I did so).

[C230K]

If the grade is in excess of 7 percent. This one also covers distances from speed limit change.

O.C.G.A 40-14-9 (http://web.lexisnexis.com/research/retrieve?_m=94aefc9f953d9547186f3d2f3ee22b3f&docnum=1&_fmtstr=FULL&_startdoc=1&wchp=dGLbVzk-zSkAl&_md5=541e27fee33ddf2b2ac214c47736f46e)



The 500 ft. is correct though.

O.C.G.A 40-14-7 (http://web.lexisnexis.com/research/retrieve?_m=9e69a14cc2d34f29b2609b5571faa0c6&docnum=1&_fmtstr=FULL&_startdoc=1&wchp=dGLbVzt-zSkAl&_md5=df4e2c245392cbcbff28dffe723893ab)

Do I have to register to see these ordinances?

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A local ordinance violation does not show up on DDS record IIRC. I've gotten a few things that I have had changed to such and they were not present when I requested a 5-year MVR (they were definitely within the 5 years when I did so).

Ordinances don't, but speeding is criminal in GA.

[quickdodge®]

Ordinances don't, but speeding is criminal in GA.

That's what Mike was getting at. A lot of times, judges will change the speeding violation to a local ordinance (city misdemeanor) to help keep a person's driving record cleaner. Most of the time, as long as you can pay the entire amount of the fine, that's what the judge will do.

[Doppelgänger]

Bingo.

Trust me, I've been playing "in the system" for too long lol...I've learned enough to know what to do. But like all things, nothing is guaranteed. Even with the knowledge I have gained, there are times where they will not do anything to reduce the ticket. In court, your dress, you atitude and your ability to use the English language go a long way in working with the solicitor/prosecutor.

[Browning151]

Do I have to register to see these ordinances?

Never had to before, but clicking the links keeps prompting me to now for some reason. Go here (http://www.lexisnexis.com/hottopics/gacode/) and search for 40-14-7 and 40-14-9 at the top of the page and you should be able to find them.

[On_Her_Face]

You could use No-lo-contendre if you already haven't but you might also want to save that for "the big one". Unless you don't normally speed.

[quickdodge®]

Yeah, that would be a dumb move to use Nolo for this.

[Doppelgänger]

Indeed.

[On_Her_Face]

Yeah, that would be a dumb move to use Nolo for this.

I mean if he was a person that actually never speeds I could see it being applied.. if said person was that up tight about it. I used my no-lo for a 29 over and after that I quit speeding :goodjob:

[Doppelgänger]

It just sucks when officers pull out random numbers out of their ass for a speeding ticket. I know my first one (and the only time I've used no-lo) was right after I got my license. I was on Oak Rd. in Snellville and pulled out of a neighborhood on a downhill and goosed it a bit and came to a stop less than 1/4 mi down the road for a car turning left. When I stopped, I noticed a GCPD behind me and as soon as we started going he popped me. He claimed that he was coming down the road when I pulled out and that he "had to do 80mph to catch up to me and you were pulling away from me". Total bullshit. Anyone who has driven a Jeep Wrangler (even with the 4.0L) knows they are a parachute with wheels and won't go 0-80-0 in a 1/4 mile and come to a safe stop. So he gave me 80 in a 40. I later saw the posted speed limit on the road was 45, further proving that asshat was just being a dick and didn't care about what he was doing other than writing a ticket. In the years I have gotten tickets and have learned the system and dealt with cops, I look back and see how much bullshit that ticket was and how I could have fought it. But I was young and dumb and hired a lawyer to negotiate with the court. Paid a $350 fine, took DD class and paid the lawyer $250. Did it all on my own without my parents finding out...until a friend of a friend of my neighbor was talking to my mom and somehow found out. I was surprised I didn't get in trouble...my parents actually commended me on handling my own shit like an adult and taking responsibility...though they weren't happy that I did it in the first place. But still, cops sometime do pull shit out of their asses...and if you know it, you can fight it easier. But that was my story about using no-lo...because it was definitely helpful in a situation like that.

Hell, I still speed 10-15 over or go a little faster than the flow of traffic because I find that going a bit faster than other cars on multi-lane roads give me more control of where I am and is safer. I don't just haul ass everywhere though. But like many of us here, I still "get on it" on occasion for a bit of fun...when no one is around.

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He claimed that he was coming down the road when I pulled out and that he "had to do 80mph to catch up to me and you were pulling away from me". Total bullshit. Anyone who has driven a Jeep Wrangler (even with the 4.0L) knows they are a parachute with wheels and won't go 0-80-0 in a 1/4 mile and come to a safe stop. So he gave me 80 in a 40. I later saw the posted speed limit on the road was 45.I hate when they try to pull that shit. I just tell em if they were stopped, then neither one of us is exempt from the laws of physics. Doesn't really prove how fast YOU were going at all.

[Doppelgänger]

Oh I had one say something like that another time and he wasn't too happy when I completely shot him down asking things like "Do you have a laser range finder on your dash to confirm that I was indeed increasing the distance between your car and mine?" or "Have you thought about the fact that it only makes logical sense that you would have to increase your speed above mine in order to catch up to me? Clearly whatever speed you chose to do is not related to the speed I was traveling at the same time." If you were quick with math, you could easily throw them off with a few questions lol

[On_Her_Face]

It just sucks when officers pull out random numbers out of their ass for a speeding ticket. I know my first one (and the only time I've used no-lo) was right after I got my license. I was on Oak Rd. in Snellville and pulled out of a neighborhood on a downhill and goosed it a bit and came to a stop less than 1/4 mi down the road for a car turning left. When I stopped, I noticed a GCPD behind me and as soon as we started going he popped me. He claimed that he was coming down the road when I pulled out and that he "had to do 80mph to catch up to me and you were pulling away from me". Total bullshit. Anyone who has driven a Jeep Wrangler (even with the 4.0L) knows they are a parachute with wheels and won't go 0-80-0 in a 1/4 mile and come to a safe stop. So he gave me 80 in a 40. I later saw the posted speed limit on the road was 45, further proving that asshat was just being a dick and didn't care about what he was doing other than writing a ticket. In the years I have gotten tickets and have learned the system and dealt with cops, I look back and see how much bullshit that ticket was and how I could have fought it. But I was young and dumb and hired a lawyer to negotiate with the court. Paid a $350 fine, took DD class and paid the lawyer $250. Did it all on my own without my parents finding out...until a friend of a friend of my neighbor was talking to my mom and somehow found out. I was surprised I didn't get in trouble...my parents actually commended me on handling my own shit like an adult and taking responsibility...though they weren't happy that I did it in the first place. But still, cops sometime do pull shit out of their asses...and if you know it, you can fight it easier. But that was my story about using no-lo...because it was definitely helpful in a situation like that.

Hell, I still speed 10-15 over or go a little faster than the flow of traffic because I find that going a bit faster than other cars on multi-lane roads give me more control of where I am and is safer. I don't just haul ass everywhere though. But like many of us here, I still "get on it" on occasion for a bit of fun...when no one is around.

Best situation I was in when I was younger was on 316. Cop pulled me over and said I was doing 95 in a 55, he literally got on the on-ramp and flipped his lights and pulled me over. Lectured me, asked me, "How I was driving a Corvette?". Replied, "My parents bought it and gave it to me as my car". Then the office asked where my dad worked, what he did, etc. Finally the officer asked for my parents phone number, got in his car and called them. Once he got back to my car he handed me my ID and insurance and said, "Your dad is now going to sell your car because of your actions". Immediately got a call and was basically dog cussed (understandable from parents perspective) for doing 100+ in a 55. So apparently the cop told my parents I was going faster than he told me. Eventually had a long talk with my parents and talked some logic into them, basically why wouldn't a cop take me to jail for the 40 over or 45+ over? Parents talked to a cop buddy and said there is no way I would get off without a warning ticket, or jail. I don't think it was a real cop. Who knows, not important anymore.

[Black R]

Just go fight it IMO.

[C230K]

Best situation I was in when I was younger was on 316. Cop pulled me over and said I was doing 95 in a 55, he literally got on the on-ramp and flipped his lights and pulled me over. Lectured me, asked me, "How I was driving a Corvette?". Replied, "My parents bought it and gave it to me as my car". Then the office asked where my dad worked, what he did, etc. Finally the officer asked for my parents phone number, got in his car and called them. Once he got back to my car he handed me my ID and insurance and said, "Your dad is now going to sell your car because of your actions". Immediately got a call and was basically dog cussed (understandable from parents perspective) for doing 100+ in a 55. So apparently the cop told my parents I was going faster than he told me. Eventually had a long talk with my parents and talked some logic into them, basically why wouldn't a cop take me to jail for the 40 over or 45+ over? Parents talked to a cop buddy and said there is no way I would get off without a warning ticket, or jail. I don't think it was a real cop. Who knows, not important anymore.

I'll tell you why you didnt go to jail, because your WHITE!

[Black R]

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