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Sinfix_15
01-19-2013, 12:40 AM
Politifacts "LIE OF THE YEAR" with a "pants on fire" lie rating.... that the media spent an entire week outraging about.......

was 100% true.

Romney Was Right: Chrysler CEO Announces Plans to Build More Jeeps in China | Chrysler | Fox Nation (http://nation.foxnews.com/chrysler/2013/01/15/romney-was-right-chrysler-ceo-announces-plans-build-more-jeeps-china?cmpid=NL_FiredUpFoxNation)

PolitiFact Concedes Their 'Lie of the Year' is the 'Literal Truth' | The Weekly Standard (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/politifact-admits-their-lie-year-literal-truth_696336.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)

Pants on Fire? Despite Media Outcry, Romney's 'Lie of the Year' Was True | NewsBusters (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matt-hadro/2013/01/18/pants-fire-despite-media-outcry-romneys-lie-year-was-true)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=GfInD4Exz6Y



Unfortunately.... liberals are immune to truth. Regardless of facts, they believe what they want to believe about their King.

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01-19-2013, 06:09 AM
So what's the issue here? They admit the Romney camp was intentionally deceptive in its word use. Chrysler still isn't shifting production to China. Chrysler is adding production in China. Romney's exact words during the campaign would lead the avg American to believe they meant "shifting"

David88vert
01-19-2013, 08:05 AM
Fact: The announcer in the ad stated, "Obama took GM and Chrysler into bankruptcy and sold Chrysler to Italians who are going to build Jeeps in China. Mitt Romney will fight for every American job".

Fact: Politifact stated this in their article: "The Romney campaign ad says Obama "sold Chrysler to Italians who are going to build Jeeps in China" at the cost of American jobs. The ad leaves the clear impression that Jeeps built in China come at the expense of American workers."

If you actually use your brain and read exactly what was stated, you see that Romney did not state or imply that Fiat would take American jobs, remove them, and ship them overseas. Politifact inferred that simply because they had an agenda against Romney. That is fact, and not disputable by any rational person. Poliitifact played their role well - as a pro-Obama propaganda machine, and showed that their hand that they are not even close to a "non-biased fact checker".

I, however, will make a prediction now. Watch FIat/Chrysler/Jeep over the next 8 years. There will be multiple US plant closings, and no more than 1 US plant created. There will be multiple plant openings (beyod the currently planned one in China, and the 1 planned one in Russia). There will be a decrease in US-Chrysler jobs, and an increase in Chinese ones. Revisit this statement in a few years and you will see that I am correct.

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01-19-2013, 09:59 AM
If you actually use your brain and read exactly what was stated, you see that Romney did not state or imply that Fiat would take American jobs, remove them, and ship them overseas. Politifact inferred that simply because they had an agenda against Romney. That is fact, and not disputable by any rational person. Poliitifact played their role well - as a pro-Obama propaganda machine, and showed that their hand that they are not even close to a "non-biased fact checker".This would be your opinion.

David88vert
01-19-2013, 10:44 AM
This would be your opinion.

Actually, all facts.
Implied: Strongly suggest the truth or existence of (something not expressly stated): "the report implies that two million jobs might be lost".
Romney did not do that. He made a clear, correct statement.

Inferred: Deduce or conclude (information) from evidence and reasoning rather than from explicit statements.
Politifact did do that. Read their article. Their conclusion states it as such.

Politifact was started by Bill Adair and the Tampa Bay Times (originally the St Petersburg Times). The St Petersburg Times has been known to be a liberal paper, that's not new news.
76 percent of negative reports on Politifact are targeted at Republicans, and 22 percent at Democrats - that's factual. Bill Adair is a liberal - read his echo chamber editorial.

"PolitiFact routinely rated claims that were entirety true, indisputable, and not misleading, as “half-true” because they failed to include additional “context,” i.e., liberal spin. For example, Senator “Ted Cruz claims national debt is bigger than the nation’s GDP. Yes, our national debt absolutely, incontrovertibly exceeds the nation’s GDP. But claiming that gets you a ‘Half-True’ because Politifact’s Gardner Selby” thought that saying that was mean-spirited. Similarly, PolitiFact said it was “misleading” and dishonest for a conservative politician to make the true factual observation that Obama “refuses to recognize Jerusalem” as Israel’s capital, even though that fact was concededly true, because the politician did not provide additional context that PolitiFact wanted: namely, that Obama is not the first president to take this position." - Hans Bader of CEI - PolitiFact Is The Liar Of The Year (http://www.openmarket.org/2012/12/14/politifact-is-the-liar-of-the-year/)

Sinfix_15
01-19-2013, 11:55 AM
Fact: The announcer in the ad stated, "Obama took GM and Chrysler into bankruptcy and sold Chrysler to Italians who are going to build Jeeps in China. Mitt Romney will fight for every American job".

Fact: Politifact stated this in their article: "The Romney campaign ad says Obama "sold Chrysler to Italians who are going to build Jeeps in China" at the cost of American jobs. The ad leaves the clear impression that Jeeps built in China come at the expense of American workers."

If you actually use your brain and read exactly what was stated, you see that Romney did not state or imply that Fiat would take American jobs, remove them, and ship them overseas. Politifact inferred that simply because they had an agenda against Romney. That is fact, and not disputable by any rational person. Poliitifact played their role well - as a pro-Obama propaganda machine, and showed that their hand that they are not even close to a "non-biased fact checker".

I, however, will make a prediction now. Watch FIat/Chrysler/Jeep over the next 8 years. There will be multiple US plant closings, and no more than 1 US plant created. There will be multiple plant openings (beyod the currently planned one in China, and the 1 planned one in Russia). There will be a decrease in US-Chrysler jobs, and an increase in Chinese ones. Revisit this statement in a few years and you will see that I am correct.

this seems to be the pattern...... but pointing how how wrong liberals were 8 years down the road, doesnt erase the 8 years of damage they got to do on account of their lies. Also, what good is it showing the truth to someone who was never seeking it to begin with.