Why do people keep buying Ebay crap?

[Matt300ZXT]

I mean, I can understand the allure of saving a few bucks if you're building your car to go fast, but why Ebay shit? I have never bought an Ebay product to put on my car. It's always name brands that are synonymous with quality. If I can't afford to buy a product new, or if it's a part that doesn't see as much stress from driving, then I'll buy a used name brand product. And when I'm looking at ads to buy or trade for a car, if I see Ebay even in the ad anywhere, I immediately click "back". I don't care if it's an Ebay short shifter, I close the ad and never look at it again.

I am just looking for insight from people who buy Ebay turbos, control arms, coilovers, etc. Are you people not worried about a brand new Ebay turbo you paid $400 for coming apart the first time you hit 15psi and shatter your compressor wheel, sending it into your engine? Or are you not worried about that Ebay control arm kit coming undone when you hit a few good bumps and sending your car into a wall or oncoming traffic? Or how about going through the pain in the ass job of installing a turbo kit, and 3 months later having to take it right back out to fix the shitty welds on that shiny exhaust manifold?

[quickdodge®]

Take it how you want, but this mentality is what helps fuel the nonsensical arguments of "real vs. fake."

Short answer to your question. Who cares?

Longer, little more drawn out answer. Why are you worried about it? Is it your money that is paying for other people's parts? If you like the name brand parts, then you buy name brand parts. You* are no one to chastise someone else about how they spend their dollars. You* are no one to question why people buy what they buy. This continually baffles me. If you have issues with only being an Abercrombie & Fitch tuner, then good for you. But there's no reason to complain about Wal*Mart tuners. People do what they do. Let them be without putting yourself on a higher pedestal. Call for unity and you get more divided. Damn.


* - denotes that the term "you" is in general and not specifically Matt.

[Matt300ZXT]

I don't care what they buy, I'm just curious why people still spend money on parts that are known to fall apart and break apart after not much use that are vital to the safety of something that is directly connected to whether someone else's property is damaged, i.e. a cheap suspension piece falling apart and your car careens into mine at 60 mph.

[quickdodge®]

I don't care what they buy,

Then there is nothing to question. It's their money. If I weren't restoring my car, I'd do the same thing without thinking twice about it. Once you start tinkering with what trained professional engineers are paid the big bucks to design and build, everything will start to fall apart.

[RandomGuy]

because they know or have seen others who have rolled the dice successfully before.

[Elbow]

First off, there's NO SUCH THING AS AN EBAY PRODUCT.

Just because it's sold on eBay doesn't mean eBay has anything to do with the manufacturing. The cheap coilovers, typically referred to as eBay coilovers, are the same quality as other cheap coilovers not sold on eBay.

With that said, I have no issues buying used. Unless it's like 100,000 mile struts or something like that. If it works then it's ready to go, I don't care about that. In fact for me there are tons of "eBay" parts I'd buy before spending a load on name brand if I was into that type of thing. Cheap short shifter? Why not? Cheap shift knob? Sure. Cheap steering wheel hub? No. There are some things I agree would be stupid, others not so much.

I've seen many many road racers use the cheap eBay coilovers without EVER having an issue. We even installed some on a rally cross Civic and had them set barely lower than stock and they NEVER had a problem. The springs can be iffy but the perches are typically fine.

eBay control arms DON'T EXIST. Those are just lower quality manufacturers, the same you can buy from parts retailers. The thread should say in that case why don't you buy OEM everything?

[E36slide]

Nice company's sell on eBay too. Of course there Are replicas but anyone can tell which is the non rep. I just bought a cosmetic head gasket from Nippon on eBay and it was of really nice quality. Also my moog inner and outer tie rods were nice as well.

[quickdodge®]

There are some things I agree would be stupid, others not so much.

There's quite a bit of difference between cars being used for performance events and everyday daily cars.

[Elbow]

There's quite a bit of difference between cars being used for performance events and everyday daily cars.

True but what does that matter?

[quickdodge®]

True but what does that matter?

It matters a lot, man. You don't (or at least you're not supposed to) push your car to the limits when doing daily driving. You don't put your car's parts under that kind of stress; to the breaking point.

[Sinfix_15]

I mean, I can understand the allure of saving a few bucks if you're building your car to go fast, but why Ebay shit? I have never bought an Ebay product to put on my car. It's always name brands that are synonymous with quality. If I can't afford to buy a product new, or if it's a part that doesn't see as much stress from driving, then I'll buy a used name brand product. And when I'm looking at ads to buy or trade for a car, if I see Ebay even in the ad anywhere, I immediately click "back". I don't care if it's an Ebay short shifter, I close the ad and never look at it again.

I am just looking for insight from people who buy Ebay turbos, control arms, coilovers, etc. Are you people not worried about a brand new Ebay turbo you paid $400 for coming apart the first time you hit 15psi and shatter your compressor wheel, sending it into your engine? Or are you not worried about that Ebay control arm kit coming undone when you hit a few good bumps and sending your car into a wall or oncoming traffic? Or how about going through the pain in the ass job of installing a turbo kit, and 3 months later having to take it right back out to fix the shitty welds on that shiny exhaust manifold?

Ebay is not a product, it's a website in which people sell products. The same as any other mass market place, i can buy cheap or expensive. You could go on ebay and buy a cheap china made turbo.... or you could buy a million dollar ferrari enzo..... there's nothing wrong with ebay itself.

[ssonsk]

Ya'll are taking the term ebay parts waaaaay too literal

But if it's cheap people will chance it

That goes for anything from home appliances to automotive tools

[Aeroscout977]

non-name brand EBAY crap

Mustang FR500C Intake Manifold Fits GT500 Ford GT Heads | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/MUSTANG-FR500C-INTAKE-MANIFOLD-FITS-GT500-FORD-GT-HEADS-/150327204042?pt=Race_Car_Parts&hash=item23003318ca&vxp=mtr)


/sarcasm

[Elbow]

It matters a lot, man. You don't (or at least you're not supposed to) push your car to the limits when doing daily driving. You don't put your car's parts under that kind of stress; to the breaking point.

Exactly. I'm still not following you though.

[quickdodge®]

I'm still not following you though.

That's cool then. I'm pretty sure you're smarter than that so I think you're doing your impression of making a point so I won't argue with you about it.

[Elbow]

That's cool then. I'm pretty sure you're smarter than that so I think you're doing your impression of making a point so I won't argue with you about it.

What are you arguing about though? You said there's a difference in street and track driving, well yeah, duh, nobody ever indicated otherwise so I literally have no idea what you're getting at....lol

[quickdodge®]

What are you arguing about though? You said there's a difference in street and track driving, well yeah, duh, nobody ever indicated otherwise so I literally have no idea what you're getting at....lol

I explained what I was getting at above, Simon. I'm assuming the OP is talking about normal, everyday driving. But you did respond in conjunction with track driving.

By the way, I said I was not going to argue. That means I'm not arguing now and will not start.

[Elbow]

I explained what I was getting at above, Simon. I'm assuming the OP is talking about normal, everyday driving. But you did respond in conjunction with track driving.

By the way, I said I was not going to argue. That means I'm not arguing now and will not start.

I wasn't trying to argue either, I just didn't understand your point. I only mentioned race conditions because like I said if it works under abuse it typically works on the street.

[quickdodge®]

...........if it works under abuse it typically works on the street.

But that doesn't always ring true on the vice versa side.

[Elbow]

But that doesn't always ring true on the vice versa side.

Correct...and I never said it did. lol :thinking:

[Echonova]

I agree with everyone.

[E36slide]

I buy a lot from eBay some not so nice but most is. The head gasket, arp head studs, 264 bc cams, retainers, springs ect. Only reason I use it is because of cheap and free shipping plus I get free money. This quarter I had 56 eBay bucks now imagine how much I had to spend to get that lol

[CSquared]

My next project car will be built using shitty quality parts sourced from ebay. Just a matter of researching and and finding which knockoff brands are actually semi decent.

[ed1380]

I can justify buying hard parts or something that you're going to modify on ebay. Its kind of hard to mess up an exhaust pipe or something simple.

[E36slide]

People still don't understand it's not a brand of motor parts its other brands selling on a website.

[quickdodge®]

:thinking:

I guess I just always thought you were pretty intelligent. It's all good, mister. We're still buds!!! Lolol.

[Elbow]

[QUOTE=E36slide;39483450]People still don't understand it's not a brand of motor parts its other brands selling on a website.[/QUOTE

Dude bro an eBay SR20 is fa different than a SR20 bought from a JDM shop. eBay SUCKS!

[Elbow]

I guess I just always thought you were pretty intelligent. It's all good, mister. We're still buds!!! Lolol.

LOL I mean I'm not trying to be a smart ass, I thought my post was clear so am not sure what you're trying to say. I just mentioned parts that work on the track work on the street and of course as you said parts that work on the street may not work on the track.

[quickdodge®]

LOL I mean I'm not trying to be a smart ass, I thought my post was clear so am not sure what you're trying to say. I just mentioned parts that work on the track work on the street and of course as you said parts that work on the street may not work on the track.

I get you, homeless. I guess it would've been nice had the OP stepped back in here and erased all doubt about what he's talking about.

[E36slide]

[QUOTE=E36slide;39483450]People still don't understand it's not a brand of motor parts its other brands selling on a website.[/QUOTE

Dude bro an eBay SR20 is fa different than a SR20 bought from a JDM shop. eBay SUCKS!

Wow your an idiot there all the same nothing is different. People who sell hks parts sell on eBay, amazon, enjuku ect eBay didn't make the shitty bov some other brand did that tried to replicate a hks bov did. There are actual real parts on eBay if you pay attention and read. So my cosmetic head gasket is a knock off ? Even though its a cosmetic just sold by Nippon ?

[Elbow]

[QUOTE=simontibbett;39483462]

Wow your an idiot there all the same nothing is different. People who sell hks parts sell on eBay, amazon, enjuku ect eBay didn't make the shitty bov some other brand did that tried to replicate a hks bov did. There are actual real parts on eBay if you pay attention and read. So my cosmetic head gasket is a knock off ? Even though its a cosmetic just sold by Nippon ?

I'm the idiot? eBay makes crap parts bro! I bet your whole car is stamped with "eBay" as the manufacturer. eBay is just a huge knockoff business, everyone knows that.

Ever seen an eBay SR20? The exhaust ports are upside down!

[Dylan]

Ebay kicks ass! :goodjob:

[combelg35]

I BOUGHT MY MOM, WIFE, AND BOTH KIDS OFF EBAY!!! I'M HAPPY WITH ALL OF THEM.... MOSTLY....LOL

[combelg35]

JUST DONT ORDER THE DOG

[E36slide]

[QUOTE=E36slide;39483471]

I'm the idiot? eBay makes crap parts bro! I bet your whole car is stamped with "eBay" as the manufacturer. eBay is just a huge knockoff business, everyone knows that.

Ever seen an eBay SR20? The exhaust ports are upside down!

No dumb ass eBay allows other company's to sell on their site. eBay did not make the product some other company did. eBay is a hosting site for various merchandise you know nothing homo. My car has legit parts that were sold on eBay. People sell parts on eBay and people sell cars on there as well. So a guy selling a 03 350z is selling a pos replica ?

[CSquared]

[QUOTE=simontibbett;39483484]

No dumb ass eBay allows other company's to sell on their site. eBay did not make the product some other company did. eBay is a hosting site for various merchandise you know nothing homo. My car has legit parts that were sold on eBay. People sell parts on eBay and people sell cars on there as well. So a guy selling a 03 350z is selling a pos replica ?

You realize he is just fucking with you right? Kind of makes you look like the dumbass...

[E36slide]

[QUOTE=E36slide;39483557]

You realize he is just fucking with you right? Kind of makes you look like the dumbass...

Not if the information I'm conveying is in fact factual. A lot of people actually believe that eBay sells shitty parts. People will read his "smart ass" comments and actually think that he's being serious and truthful.

[Elbow]

[QUOTE=CSquared;39483604]

Not if the information I'm conveying is in fact factual. A lot of people actually believe that eBay sells shitty parts. People will read his "smart ass" comments and actually think that he's being serious and truthful.

Yeah, you made yourself look pretty stupid. Did you even read the first page?

Or can you not read? :ninja:

[CSquared]

Yeah everyone takes everything said on ia 100% seriously. Upsidedown manifolds on the ebay sr20s!?! Ill never buy from ebay again.

[E36slide]

[QUOTE=E36slide;39483607]

Yeah, you made yourself look pretty stupid. Did you even read the first page?

Or can you not read? :ninja:

Yes I did. I commented before you started trolling making idiotic statements. This is just a forum you can't tell if your being serious or just being sarcastic. I get flamed for being sarcastic so why should you be any different for making comments like "the manifold was upside down."

Smh....trolls... Did you buy a how to on eBay ? "Trolling for dummies"

[Elbow]

Yes I did. I commented before you started trolling making idiotic statements. This is just a forum you can't tell if your being serious or just being sarcastic. I get flamed for being sarcastic so why should you be any different for making comments like "the manifold was upside down."

Smh....trolls... Did you buy a how to on eBay ? "Trolling for dummies"

You read the first page but think I completely turned around my original post and started typing like an idiot? There's a difference in joking and trolling, trolling would have been to come in here and immediately start acting like I wrote above, clearly you didn't read the first page, or can't. Either or.

Let me remind you:


First off, there's NO SUCH THING AS AN EBAY PRODUCT.

Just because it's sold on eBay doesn't mean eBay has anything to do with the manufacturing. The cheap coilovers, typically referred to as eBay coilovers, are the same quality as other cheap coilovers not sold on eBay.

With that said, I have no issues buying used. Unless it's like 100,000 mile struts or something like that. If it works then it's ready to go, I don't care about that. In fact for me there are tons of "eBay" parts I'd buy before spending a load on name brand if I was into that type of thing. Cheap short shifter? Why not? Cheap shift knob? Sure. Cheap steering wheel hub? No. There are some things I agree would be stupid, others not so much.

I've seen many many road racers use the cheap eBay coilovers without EVER having an issue. We even installed some on a rally cross Civic and had them set barely lower than stock and they NEVER had a problem. The springs can be iffy but the perches are typically fine.

eBay control arms DON'T EXIST. Those are just lower quality manufacturers, the same you can buy from parts retailers. The thread should say in that case why don't you buy OEM everything?

You even commented right under me. You don't ever read anything anyone else posts do you?

[E36slide]

You read the first page but think I completely turned around my original post and started typing like an idiot? There's a difference in joking and trolling, trolling would have been to come in here and immediately start acting like I wrote above, clearly you didn't read the first page, or can't. Either or.

Let me remind you:



You even commented right under me. You don't ever read anything anyone else posts do you?

I honestly did not see the post lol I'm on tap talk and if you post around the same time it doesn't show until I re fresh the page. It also jumps to the new post. I apologize then. Carry on sir

[whatever210]

holy crap! the world must be ending! this is the first thread i've ever encountered where quickdodge hasnt said "Later,QD" at the end of his post. like wtf man?

[E36slide]

holy crap! the world must be ending! this is the first thread i've ever encountered where quickdodge hasnt said "Later,QD" at the end of his post. like wtf man?

I thought that was just a auto saved signature ?

[whatever210]

I thought that was just a auto saved signature ?

well it cant be auto if it did not appear in here. fucking magic man! i mean thats his sig! its wigging me out

[Dylan]

Forrealz though, Ebay is good shit if you know how to use it. At least 95% of my car was built off parts from that site. Damn near Everything but my engine which came from a local honda engine dealer and my hondata shits.

[quickdodge®]

holy crap! the world must be ending! this is the first thread i've ever encountered where quickdodge hasnt said "Later,QD" at the end of his post. like wtf man?

I quit doing that a few months ago. In fact, it was in September, I believe. I even posted an announcement that I was retiring the deal, lolol.


I thought that was just a auto saved signature ?

Nope. Since 2001, I actually typed that at the end of every post. About 70,000 times.

[whatever210]

I quit doing that a few months ago. In fact, it was in September, I believe. I even posted an announcement that I was retiring the deal,

I'm terribly sorry for your loss....(in my ice man voice) everybody liked it.....I'm sorry.

[HighRevRacin]

I would have to say I buy from ebay all the time but I also Buy from dealers known for name brand legit parts

[Manny Naber]

OP's an idiot lol

[ssonsk]

OP's an idiot lol
what makes you say that?

[civicturbo10]

I mean, I can understand the allure of saving a few bucks if you're building your car to go fast, but why Ebay shit? I have never bought an Ebay product to put on my car. It's always name brands that are synonymous with quality. If I can't afford to buy a product new, or if it's a part that doesn't see as much stress from driving, then I'll buy a used name brand product. And when I'm looking at ads to buy or trade for a car, if I see Ebay even in the ad anywhere, I immediately click "back". I don't care if it's an Ebay short shifter, I close the ad and never look at it again.

I am just looking for insight from people who buy Ebay turbos, control arms, coilovers, etc. Are you people not worried about a brand new Ebay turbo you paid $400 for coming apart the first time you hit 15psi and shatter your compressor wheel, sending it into your engine? Or are you not worried about that Ebay control arm kit coming undone when you hit a few good bumps and sending your car into a wall or oncoming traffic? Or how about going through the pain in the ass job of installing a turbo kit, and 3 months later having to take it right back out to fix the shitty welds on that shiny exhaust manifold?

I get what the OP is saying. He's referring to the poorly engineered / poor quality parts sold on ebay, hence the term ebay parts. When he says "ebay parts" i understood immediately what he meant. I have no gripes with ebay. For my JRSC build i bought new parts off ebay, but i stick with brands i trust and look for higher quality parts. I.E. i got a koyo race aluminum radiator. High end brand if you ask me since they do OEM production. I also got a Exedy stage 1 off ebay was well. Both of those parts i negotiated on and got a decent deal on new parts in the box. So, there is nothing wrong with ebay per say except for the plethora of cheap engineered parts scattered on there for sale. That is where i have the problem.

Honestly i like good engineered stuff and chase after them like no other. Sure i could to a big box retailer and get it off the shelf but good engineering costs money. Most of the time i believe in the you get what you pay for.

Case in point Stihl power equipment - sure i could get a trimmer from home depot and get the echo or homelite brand or whatever. But i chose stihl b/c of the reviews i read, the german engineering ( well the item feels like it in my hand), rebuild parts i could get all day long, parts availablility on ebay, dealers etc. I look at the echo brand and it's a distant second. And actually, Stihl is the best selling brand of power equipment - so they say. Even sears but i read so many bad reviews it's ridiculous. Stihl is just the whole package. It's expensive but i pay for engineering, etc. My honda lawn mower - same thing. Good engineering and it's quite smooth for what it is. Expensive as hell though.

My carry on luggage - i use to use a hand me down brown turd luggage for a long time from walmart. Last yr rolls around and I discovered the Tumi brand and it was time to upgrade. Again why did i choose this brand b/c i liked the engineering behind it and i wanted something for traveling to be more durable. it's expensive as hell but like usual i look for deals and got it on sale for 35% off. Sure i could get walmart but i wanted something proven in the business world and so i choose Tumi lol. Actually, i have a coworker who buys it as well.

Some aftermarket parts brands i use - AEM, HKS, Map ECU, Greddy, PHR, Sparco, Hondata. These brands cost alot of dough but i buy the products for the engineering behind them. I pick up a HKS dragger and i can see the quality in the pc. and why it costs what it does and not under $200 for a complete cat back exhaust etc. Granted do i use cheaper alternative stuff. I do and it varies when and where i use it. Just depends what it is.

And like he said if you can't afford new, go used. And that's i what i do mostly. Good engineering that's what i like. I have no problem with people buying what product line they get. Thats why they exist. I just prefer good engineered stuff - which alot of times cost more money. Do your research, lol. And no it's not about throwing away good money on good stuff. When you reach 382K on your eg hatch w/o ever getting stranded then i feel i made the right decisions on my parts - OEM and good quality aftermarket.

bad engineering, lol
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[Franco Tirador]

if you put that 300zx on ebay it may sell quicker...... just saying...

[s20004life]

Do you homework on the parts before buying from anywhere. Me personally i get popular name brands i know works very well with my car. Ebay is just known for having really good deals on top-the-line stuff sometimes.

[Mpeterson]

If you have problems with only being an Abercrombie & Fitch receiver, then definitely its excellent for you. But there's no purpose to grumble about Wal*Mart the tuners. Individuals do what they do. Let them be without placing yourself on a greater stand. . . . . . . . .