Best rapper alive?

[E36slide]

Who do you think is the best lyrically?

No auto tune allowed.

My choice is eminem not because I'm white...

But because.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Apj_MIosadI&feature=youtube_gdata_player

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o6uNjI56_A&feature=youtube_gdata_player


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[Sammich]

lil bow wow :ninja:

[Sammich]

there's alot of greats alive...i mean Eminem of course, Andre 3K, some up and coming folks that's going to shake the RAP world to it's core and bring back hip hop...Jay-Z (i know i'm about to get flack for naming him), Nas (although i'm not a big fan i respect flows) Cassidy is a very well slept on rapper IMHO, his lyrical metaphors and punch lines exceed that of many...not to mention Cam'ron, alot of people sleep on him calling his flow 'bubble gum rap' but if you ask me it's fukin ingenious...if you separate the seemingly simple rap and listen to what he's saying and he's able to 'construct it' to a seemingly overly simplified lyric..mind blowing. his earlier work is way easier for those of this generation, or any generation, but the boy is nice

i think Em could go in the top 5 alive...top 10 dead or alive

[Skorcher]

50Tyson.

[Sammich]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Skorcher again.

[Vteckidd]

DYLAN

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Z9lg6HqJeY0/hqdefault.jpg

[Dylan]

I've always said Eminem, simply because his songs have true meaning. He raps out stories rather than shit about drugs and strippers that rhyme.

[Dylan]

DYLAN

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Z9lg6HqJeY0/hqdefault.jpg

DYLAN SPIT DAT FIRE!!!

[Sammich]

I've always said Eminem, simply because his songs have true meaning. He raps out stories rather than shit about drugs and strippers that rhyme.

to top it off, they ended up being hits. then his battles...dear lord!!!! Em is a monster that every hip hop artist and rapper highly respects and realizes if you battle him, you better come correct. Jay and Nas arent necessarily battle rappers, as their battle showed, but Nas proved to be better at it....but if Nas and Em ever went at it...my $.02 is going on Em

[E36slide]

I've always said Eminem, simply because his songs have true meaning. He raps out stories rather than shit about drugs and strippers that rhyme.

That's why i choose him. Not one rapper out there could make a diss song against eminem...if they did they would be tore a new one lol

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[E36slide]

to top it off, they ended up being hits. then his battles...dear lord!!!! Em is a monster that every hip hop artist and rapper highly respects and realizes if you battle him, you better come correct. Jay and Nas arent necessarily battle rappers, as their battle showed, but Nas proved to be better at it....but if Nas and Em ever went at it...my $.02 is going on Em

X2

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[Dylan]

to top it off, they ended up being hits. then his battles...dear lord!!!! Em is a monster that every hip hop artist and rapper highly respects and realizes if you battle him, you better come correct. Jay and Nas arent necessarily battle rappers, as their battle showed, but Nas proved to be better at it....but if Nas and Em ever went at it...my $.02 is going on Em

Totally agree with this. I've never been a huge fan of Nas or Jay-Z, though of the two it would be Nas. Andre 3 stacks kills all that he comes near. Cee-lo used to be, is, and always be the shit despite his abrupt change in styles over the last decade.

[fatty]

icy hot stuntaz

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This Video is the reason Eminem is one of the greatest, dead or alive

http://youtu.be/tZ-q_Yb9t-s

[E36slide]

This Video is the reason Eminem is one of the greatest, dead or alive

http://youtu.be/tZ-q_Yb9t-s

Those dudes weren't even close to his level lol

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Old Royce was x20 better.

[Sammich]

when i saw Royce and remembered Slaughterhouse and cant believe i forgot about Joe Budden and Joell Ortiz...lordddddddd

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when i saw Royce and remembered Slaughterhouse and cant believe i forgot about Joe Budden and Joell Ortiz...lordddddddd

Slaughterhouse 2.0 BET Awards cypher 2011. Look it up and enjoy

[E36slide]

Slaughterhouse 2.0 BET Awards cypher 2011. Look it up and enjoy

Yeah thats a good video to

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[BTLFED]

GRAVEDIGGAZ

[Sammich]

Old Royce was x20 better.

i might need to look up his old shit because i cant really vibe w/ Royce right now


Slaughterhouse 2.0 BET Awards cypher 2011. Look it up and enjoy

oh...that cypher made me want to destroy 2012's cypher...i was not remotely impressed..only freestyle that was on point on any level was Cassidy this year...Slaughterhouse should have been on there again this year

[E36slide]

Old Royce was x20 better.

I wouldn't go that far lol their about equal

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I wouldn't go that far lol their about equal

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Royce was better back then than he is now.

[Bacon]

One of my picks is no longer alive.

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[Spagheddy]

UMMM my pick is TECH NINE probably one of the best still to this date

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i might need to look up his old shit because i cant really vibe w/ Royce right nowask and you shall receive.

http://youtu.be/tZ-q_Yb9t-s

http://youtu.be/TRabl6tqlqM

[Julio]

Depends..

Jay z has been the smartest.. Nas the poetic..had the potential to be the best of all time.. And was a game changer, DMX.. But the best of all time is Fred Durst.. Bah..

Everlast waxed Eminem.. Honestly.. I dont even listen to rap music anymore.. Is embarrasing, now, more than ever..

[Julio]

eminem has never written a dis song like "2nd round knockout by Canibus" or " Ether by Nas "

[D3UC3S]

Juicy J.....Fuck you

[E36slide]

Depends..

Jay z has been the smartest.. Nas the poetic..had the potential to be the best of all time.. And was a game changer, DMX.. But the best of all time is Fred Durst.. Bah..

Everlast waxed Eminem.. Honestly.. I dont even listen to rap music anymore.. Is embarrasing, now, more than ever..

None of those guys can even compare to eminem

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[quickdodge®]

Lolol @ Feminem being the G.O.A.T.

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eminem has never written a dis song like "2nd round knockout by Canibus" or " Ether by Nas "

What? He's gotta bunch of diss tracks! I'll find a couple good ones for ya...

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Lolol @ Feminem being the G.O.A.T.

You CAN NOT deny Eminem's lyrical skill!

[quickdodge®]

You CAN NOT deny Eminem's lyrical skill!

I never denied anything about his lyrics. I laughed at him being a G.O.A.T. I personally have never fallen on the Fem bandwagon. Never bought/downloaded anything from the dude. Is he good? Apparently a lot of people think so. Do I think he's good? He's ok. Do I think he's a G.O.A.T.? Nope. To me he's boring, he sounds the same and all his tracks sound the same. Most of the people who do think that didn't grow up throughout the history of rap and never really listened to the genre before him.

[Kyle]

Best is pretty subjective...but in my opinion..

Nas or Jay Z.

[Slow Motion]

Has no one ever listen to or heard of krs-one, eric b., rakim, big daddy kane, marley marl, kool g rap and dj polo? The fresh prince was even nice. Eminem though really? LMBAO.... You have to skip two whole eras to get to Em and that's who you chose...

[Julio]

None of those guys can even compare to eminem

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Lol.. Is all about the $$$ Jay owns them all..
I like Nas's content in his lyrics...DMX first and Only rapper (i think) to have 2 LP's in a year and go platinum...but crack destroyed him..

Eminem is good.. But his stuff gets repetetive.. I cant just chilled to Eminem stuff... Reminds me of cartoons..

[Julio]

Has no one ever listen to or heard of krs-one, eric b., rakim, big daddy kane, marley marl, kool g rap and dj polo? The fresh prince was even nice. Eminem though really? LMBAO.... You have to skip two whole eras to get to Em and that's who you chose...


Rakim was the shit..

[E36slide]

It's between these two...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3gRJ4L_Z5M&feature=youtube_gdata_player


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[Scotsman]

Has no one ever listen to or heard of krs-one, eric b., rakim, big daddy kane, marley marl, kool g rap and dj polo? The fresh prince was even nice. Eminem though really? LMBAO.... You have to skip two whole eras to get to Em and that's who you chose.../ thread

[Scotsman]

how bout Twista when he was with Do or Die

[Bacon]

how bout Twista when he was with Do or Die

Yes.

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[green91]

PROJECT PAT

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PROJECT PAT

Kill yo self

[quickdodge®]

how bout Twista when he was with Do or Die

He was better before Do Or Die, but he's definitely NOT a great.


PROJECT PAT

Lolol. Maybe best in his neighborhood.

[SHAUNvX]

Gucci mane lol jk

I like Wale and em but a lot of these new rappers i wonder how they even got a record deal, I mean some of them just say the most random shit and sell records.

[Kyle]

PROJECT PAT
This ^ lol. I somewhat ironically listened to him throughout highschool.


Lolol. Maybe best in his neighborhood.
QD tell me who else can rhyme like this....

"I'm have to holla back at cha, flip you like a spatula
Turn you into a bachelorette and I'm a be a bachelor
I'm a la spectacular, living like a macula
No, fix hair, fresh clothes, you on crackula
Dollars we can stackula, you wanted to actula
Like you was the boss, and you suck me dry like Dracula
You deserve a smackula, better yet a snapula"

LOLOL

[Slow Motion]

Rakim was the shit..

No doubt but I guess I have to start using the word "whippersnapper" now cause no ones ever heard of these guys. So it probably means I'm old now being that they are from like ''87 and ''88...lol.

[-EnVus-]

Juicy J

[Sinfix_15]

Best rapper ALIVE is probably Eminem, hard to argue with the amount of content he has alone.

Best rapper EVER, i know this is the cliche pick, but i've got to stick with Tupac. Even though Eminem is great, it often sounds like he has to try really hard to be great. Tupac could read you the mcdonalds menu and sell a million copies. I feel the same way about Snoop, everything he says sounds cool as shit. Plus, most rappers cant match 2pac's after death career. They may make another 2pac song tomorrow...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=zqnM-IyYYDs#t=14s

[Sinfix_15]

Rapper i enjoy the most today is Wiz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=npFG5eRVNCY#t=46s

[Sinfix_15]

Most underrated rapper ever..... whos got lyrics like this?????? that's a fuckin book of a song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=bWze_JdO57s#t=2s

[RandomGuy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9lg6HqJeY0

[Sammich]

wait one fukin minute...you really bring Wiz into this discussion, and are serious about it?

[E36slide]

wait one fukin minute...you really bring Wiz into this discussion, and are serious about it?

That's what i said......lol

He's just a fad rapper. Most rappers think he's cool because he smokes tons of weed and has fun rapping, but no where close to top 10 or even 20.

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[Sammich]

he sucks...i cant see what's the hype about him...i dont think he's relevant until you're a weedhead...so i dont get it because i dont smoke at all. Wiz dont deserve to be listed among the mentions of the serious 'best rapper alive' debate going on right now, period. i'd put Jeezy in easily way before Wiz...at least Jeezy speaks on both relevant shit going on and what he used to do. he's not lyrical, just a 'street/life poet'

[E36slide]

he sucks...i cant see what's the hype about him...i dont think he's relevant until you're a weedhead...so i dont get it because i dont smoke at all. Wiz dont deserve to be listed among the mentions of the serious 'best rapper alive' debate going on right now, period. i'd put Jeezy in easily way before Wiz...at least Jeezy speaks on both relevant shit going on and what he used to do. he's not lyrical, just a 'street/life poet'

X2

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[E36slide]

The new bad meets evil goes hard

Slaughterhouse and eminem
Vs
Kanye west and jay z

Who wins?

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[Sammich]

slaughterhouse/em..why is that up for debate?

[E36slide]

slaughterhouse/em..why is that up for debate?

Seems to be the duo their after since jay z and kanye named their cd protect the thrown. Then their is drake and lil Wayne, which i don't even think they can compare at all. Drake is decent but he was on degrassy so I lost all respect for him lol

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[Sammich]

'watch the THRONE' and i dont think they are after them..only person out of that group that would possibly have a vendetta against them is Budden and he's since simmered down w/ that beef. drake lost what he came into the game w/ a few years back, he's full blown pop, just like nicki minaj and wayne, birdman always sucked ass, just good for a hit

[E36slide]

'watch the THRONE' and i dont think they are after them..only person out of that group that would possibly have a vendetta against them is Budden and he's since simmered down w/ that beef. drake lost what he came into the game w/ a few years back, he's full blown pop, just like nicki minaj and wayne, birdman always sucked ass, just good for a hit

Lol damn my phone pisses me off

Yeah i don't particularly listen to jay z or kanye hence me not knowing the correct name of their cd I knew it was something stupid like that. Lol

Only way rappers like eminem and slaughterhouse can make a living is by having beef. Hopefully some shit gets started. Should make some pretty good records.

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[Sammich]

they dont need beef to make a living and the album wasnt stupid, shit was worthy and it was hip hop i dont care what anyone had to say about it.

slaughterhouse is good in their own right, but truthfully, out of that group only Joe Budden and Joell Ortiz are the only lyrics i listen/can listen to. i cant get w/ Royce or whoever the other guy is...if slaughterhouse had Yelawolf in it, i'd be .75 cents in...you'd get that if you listened to that freestyle 'em said the game needed change so he gave em 4 quarters'

[E36slide]

they dont need beef to make a living and the album wasnt stupid, shit was worthy and it was hip hop i dont care what anyone had to say about it.

slaughterhouse is good in their own right, but truthfully, out of that group only Joe Budden and Joell Ortiz are the only lyrics i listen/can listen to. i cant get w/ Royce or whoever the other guy is...if slaughterhouse had Yelawolf in it, i'd be .75 cents in...you'd get that if you listened to that freestyle 'em said the game needed change so he gave em 4 quarters'

True they do have a good group. Each person brings their own style. Then they have eminem to piece it together.

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[Sammich]

em isnt part of the group tho...

[CSquared]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rog8ou-ZepE

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[Sammich]

question, and i havent listened to this guy, but what about Kendrick Lamar?

and i know no one has heard of Kaj Kadence

[E36slide]

em isnt part of the group tho...

I thought he signed slaughterhouse and yelawolf

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[Sammich]

i know he signed slaughter, i forgot if he signed yela, i dont think he did, but i know they are cool....he's not part of slaughter...he just signed the 4 quarters...they do their thing

[E36slide]

i know he signed slaughter, i forgot if he signed yela, i dont think he did, but i know they are cool....he's not part of slaughter...he just signed the 4 quarters...they do their thing

Ah gotcha well he signed some of the best

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[Sammich]

i'm mad i left out Lupe Fiasco

[Sammich]

Ah gotcha well he signed some of the best

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at least 2 of the best :ninja:

[E36slide]

at least 2 of the best :ninja:

Haha true

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[Sammich]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFvq5bgbCdI

lupe's freestyle, one of the meanest freestyles i've heard to date

[E36slide]

Best freestyle by eminem

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itCD3qI2iVs&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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[Sammich]

there's already been a better freestyle posted that he did w/ westwood...where he did 3 freestyles.

[Sammich]

ask and you shall receive.

Westwood - Eminem freestyle Radio 1 - YouTube (http://youtu.be/tZ-q_Yb9t-s)

Eminem - Bad Meets Evil (The Originalz) - YouTube (http://youtu.be/TRabl6tqlqM)

the end of that 2nd vid....0____0 now i know why Em signed Royce...jeeeeeeeeeezus

[BTLFED]

how bout Twista when he was with Do or Die

That's what I'm talking about. Tha Tongue Twista.

EDIT: I didn't mean as the best but rarely do people remember him these days.

[Sammich]

Nobody giving respect to Cam'ron, i swear i'm shocked

[Dylan]

That's what I'm talking about. Tha Tongue Twista.

EDIT: I didn't mean as the best but rarely do people remember him these days.
He was and still is a beast but, his days were back when bone thugs were in the mix.

[-EnVus-]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA_iMuZ3ZDw....

[Sammich]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA_iMuZ3ZDw....

BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH AHAHA

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the end of that 2nd vid....0____0 now i know why Em signed Royce...jeeeeeeeeeezus

And that's not even the best. I've got a CD from back in the day where Royce and Em just went completely nuts for like 10 minutes.

[Sinfix_15]

wait one fukin minute...you really bring Wiz into this discussion, and are serious about it?

Tell me what rap CDs are in your car right now if you dont like wiz.

[Sinfix_15]

That's what i said......lol

He's just a fad rapper. Most rappers think he's cool because he smokes tons of weed and has fun rapping, but no where close to top 10 or even 20.

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same question to you, im honestly curious.

[E36slide]

same question to you, im honestly curious.

I don't have a cd player but i listen to eminem, royce, drake, wiz, shinedown,greenday, cross fade ect..

Still don't think wiz is close yet....he has a few catchy songs

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[Sinfix_15]

I don't have a cd player but i listen to eminem, royce, drake, wiz, shinedown,greenday, cross fade ect..

Still don't think wiz is close yet....he has a few catchy songs

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I wasnt putting Wiz in the argument for best anything.... just that right this minute today, hes the rapper im enjoying he most. Even though i recognize Eminem is one of the best.... i hardly every have eminem playing. I have to be in the mood to listen to eminem.

[Sammich]

And that's not even the best. I've got a CD from back in the day where Royce and Em just went completely nuts for like 10 minutes.

i neeeeeeeeeeeeeeed that material in my life


Tell me what rap CDs are in your car right now if you dont like wiz.

are you talking hip hop or are you talking just hype shit that i use to at the gym/rap/energy?
(no CDs just on my droid and USB)

I wasnt putting Wiz in the argument for best anything.... just that right this minute today, hes the rapper im enjoying he most. Even though i recognize Eminem is one of the best.... i hardly every have eminem playing. I have to be in the mood to listen to eminem.

i understand having to be in the mood for eminem, i'm the EXACT same way about Nas and Lupe

[ultm8mind]

Krispy Kreme

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plPsnWFng0w

Baddest of Them All

[E36slide]

And that's not even the best. I've got a CD from back in the day where Royce and Em just went completely nuts for like 10 minutes.

I need this song....lol

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I need this song....lol

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I'll see if I can find it and host it for y'all. Lol.

[Sammich]

http://whyfiles.org/shorties/132cerebellum/images/tapping.gif

[E36slide]

I'll see if I can find it and host it for y'all. Lol.

Aight dude thanks

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[C230K]

Immortal Technique
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb3gB-qY2bQ

Hopsin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlTQqET5qRs

Hopsin is like a black eminem, it would be great if he would make a song with eminem.
Immortal Technique is in a league if his own, cant compare him to no one else, he on some real shit

[C230K]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA_iMuZ3ZDw....

How can I post youtube videos without copying and pasting the link and just post up the video?

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How can I post youtube videos without copying and pasting the link and just post up the video?

Copy and paste the link. It should parse itself. If not just put URL tags around it.

[Kyle]

May get shit for this and I'm not familiar with his whole catalog but... Fabolous.
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=PLdKmQ1g4YE&vq=large

Immortal Technique
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb3gB-qY2bQ

Hopsin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlTQqET5qRs

Hopsin is like a black eminem, it would be great if he would make a song with eminem.
Immortal Technique is in a league if his own, cant compare him to no one else, he on some real shit
He really isn't though. His style and lyrics are really different than others, but to say he's in a league of his own...meh just like any other "Underground" rapper.

[Echonova]

How can I post youtube videos without copying and pasting the link and just post up the video?Go Advanced, you'll see a "film" icon... Click on that and post the youtube addy in-between the "quote" tags

[quickdodge®]

Again, you guys are only focusing on what you grew up on and heard. In order for your opinion on G.O.A.T. to be a little more valid is if you were listening to all eras and styles of hip hop. From the beginning. You're only talking about the best in your own time. Not of all time.

[Kyle]

Ice Cube.
Rev Run.
Biz Markie.
Q Tip.

Okay I'm done.

Again, you guys are only focusing on what you grew up on and heard. In order for your opinion on G.O.A.T. to be a little more valid is if you were listening to all eras and styles of hip hop. From the beginning. You're only talking about the best in your own time. Not of all time.

Hey old man. Shutup. Good point though.

[Echonova]

Abraham Lincoln



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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX_1B0w7Hzc&feature=relmfu

[Echonova]

What other rapper has beat Chuck Norris?








https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj2Zf9tlg2Y

[C230K]

Thanks Echo, Watsky bitches!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6XLswqiX0s

[Theothersawyer]

Okay I just saw this thread so that is why I'm quoting some older post's.

To me he's boring, he sounds the same and all his tracks sound the same.
You are saying Em sounds the same in all of his music? He has so many different voices it's ridiculous!

I thought he signed slaughterhouse and yelawolf

You are correct. Eminem signed Slaughterhouse and Yelawolf

i know he signed slaughter, i forgot if he signed yela, i dont think he did, but i know they are cool....he's not part of slaughter...he just signed the 4 quarters...they do their thing
Although he is not a part of Slaughterhouse, he does appear on 3 of their songs from the newest album. Also, Joe Budden voluntarily stepped aside to allow Em to appear get on the track.

Tell me what rap CDs are in your car right now if you dont like wiz.
Whats a CD? Funny thing is, I Rolling Papers started playing on my IPod on the way home today, and I was thinking about how that is the only album of Wiz I like.

Before I see anything about Lil' Wayne or anyone from Young Money...
YMCMB = You're Mad Cause Marshall's Better.

Also, this "freestyle" from Eminem is pretty awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brYY3Dri7xw

[Theothersawyer]

It wouldn't let me put two videos in one post...

Anyways,

As far as Slaughterhouse goes, I think they all fit so well together and they all respect each other. By that I mean, not one person in the group thinks they are above another and IMO none of them are I see all four of them as equally as talented as the others.

One of my favorite songs from Welcome to: Our House.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA6dZPORq8g
It is just such a moving song. You can feel the pain that each member went through when someone died.

[Franco Tirador]

i dont even listen to the new eminem, but give me his old freestyles and i will rock them all day, seem like since he got his rep up he does not try that hard (like many rappers) others that are good at lyrics: Jadakiss, Fabolous (i dont think he writes his stuff) Jay Z (do some research, "i been spendin hundreds since they had small faces" ) Cassidy is sick too, Jin, and a few more that never made it to mainstream media, that black kid that battled Jin, and big tigger, not really a rapper but dude could flow more than most of the guest he had in the basement

[quickdodge®]

You are saying Em sounds the same in all of his music?

You catch on fast, sir.

[Sammich]

Again, you guys are only focusing on what you grew up on and heard. In order for your opinion on G.O.A.T. to be a little more valid is if you were listening to all eras and styles of hip hop. From the beginning. You're only talking about the best in your own time. Not of all time.

some truth based on what you've said i kind of agree...BUT at the same time...TRUTHFULLY a majority of those, at least those i know of, more or less had a simplistic, no lyrical word play, like that of Jeezy..they just spoke on what they knew...i'm basing off of lyrical content, wordplay, ability to battle etc...w/ that...that's why i have NO PROBLEM putting Eminem up there.

now dont get me wrong alot of those pioneers of hip hop/rap do get their due cred, but i dont think many outside of maybe Rakim had wordplay in their content.

AGAIN!!! like you said i'm basing on what i've heard/grew up on and i didnt grow up on alot of what you grew up on obviously because of the age gap.

[Sammich]

i dont even listen to the new eminem, but give me his old freestyles and i will rock them all day, seem like since he got his rep up he does not try that hard (like many rappers) others that are good at lyrics: Jadakiss, Fabolous (i dont think he writes his stuff) Jay Z (do some research, "i been spendin hundreds since they had small faces" ) Cassidy is sick too, Jin, and a few more that never made it to mainstream media, that black kid that battled Jin, and big tigger, not really a rapper but dude could flow more than most of the guest he had in the basement

i agree w/ all of this except Jin and Tigga...i dont know enough aboutthem. but i'm sure Fab writes his own material, all the shit he's come out w/..there's no way he has a ghost writer that puts out that much of his music now w/o any dispute...Fab is a monster.

AGAIN!!!!!!!! i'm shocked no one is respecting Cam'ron, for real?! this proves how underrated he is

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now dont get me wrong alot of those pioneers of hip hop/rap do get their due cred, but i dont think many outside of maybe Rakim had wordplay in their content.Rakim was beast. The only person I can see being close to as technically complex as Em. GMFlash and some of the furious five were pretty dope too

[Sammich]

Rakim was beast. The only person I can see being close to as technically complex as Em. GMFlash and some of the furious five were pretty dope too

i've never listened to GrandMaster Flash (or maybe i did and didnt know it, but i doubt it)

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i've never listened to GrandMaster Flash (or maybe i did and didnt know it, but i doubt it)

Don't...push...me...cause...I'm...close...to...tha ...edge

[Sammich]

we're trying...not to lose our heads...uh huh huh huh huh...lol

damnit..fuk you Geoffrey

[quickdodge®]

AGAIN!!! like you said i'm basing on what i've heard/grew up on and i didnt grow up on alot of what you grew up on obviously because of the age gap.

There we go right there, homey. There is so much stuff out there that so many young folks haven't heard, it's ridiculous. There were a lot of crafty folks from back in the days. Back in the days of legitimate hip hop.


i've never listened to GrandMaster Flash (or maybe i did and didnt know it, but i doubt it)

And that validates what I've said, my friend.

But listen to these guys, dude. Personally, all day long, I'd put this group on the map well before Fem.

[CSquared]

Anyone else into atmosphere?

[Franco Tirador]

and Just for the record, i think most white people like eminem because he is white, although they dont like to admit it

[trajedy]

I don't believe in there being a "best rapper" due to the fact that "rap" is a watered down version of what it used to be. Best lyricist alive on the other hand, IMO is Eminem.. not because I'm white, but because of how everything is intertwined. Multisyllable rhyme and it all flows with the beat.

Comparisons to Eminem - All of Slaughterhouse, but I believe Royce is the best. To truly show each member of Slaughterhouse's style, you'd have to listen to the Slaughterhouse megamix remix to Beamer, Benz, or Bentley.

As far who has my interest most captured at the moment - Jarren Benton.

[Sammich]

and Just for the record, i think most white people like eminem because he is white, although they dont like to admit it

you are HIGHLY buggin...Eminem is a monster...i dont care in what time capsule you put him...every generation of rap is afraid to get into a rap beef w/ Eminem

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.every generation of rap is afraid to get into a rap beef w/ Eminem

Lolol. That's funny, Sammich.

[teh bri]

Every generation of rap is afraid to get into a rap beef w/ Eminem o.O

[Sammich]

Lolol. That's funny, Sammich.


o.O

Rakim respecting Em

Rakim speaks on Eminem - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I53vWm8dJGk)

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Rakim respecting Em

Rakim speaks on Eminem - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I53vWm8dJGk)

Ok now that's not telling me anything.

[Sammich]

I was just giving an old head respecting Eminem as the lyricist he is. I strongly believe he's a living legend

Anyone listened to Kendrick Lamar? finally got to listening to his first album, reminds me alot of Aquemini album..i also dont remember anyone mentioning Outkast..

[quickdodge®]

I was just giving an old head respecting Eminem as the lyricist he is. I strongly believe he's a living legend

Oh ok. I thought you were trying to "prove" that no one in any generation wants to battle Fem. And you're entitled to your "opinion," my friend.


.i also dont remember anyone mentioning Outkast..

That's because they aren't the G.O.A.T. In the South, though, I would definitely put them at (or near) the top. Pretty much well ahead of anyone.

[Boosted FC]

and Just for the record, i think most white people like eminem because he is white, although they dont like to admit it

Yeah...lets bring race into it now.....sheesh.

Surprised no one even mentioned Notorious BIG. Dude was epic.

[quickdodge®]

Yeah...lets bring race into it now.....sheesh.

I'll be honest and say I agree with the dude. I've felt that since he first came on. And as hard as it is to believe, I'm white, lolol.


Surprised no one even mentioned Notorious BIG. Dude was epic.

I think he could be in the Top 10, but he didn't live long enough to keep putting out quality material. But again, Top 10 for sure.

[Sammich]

I never really saw anything that BIG did lyrically that made him 'one of the best' i'm sorry...TuPac > BIG...i see BIG like i see Jeezy. sue me

[quickdodge®]

I never really saw anything that BIG did lyrically that made him 'one of the best' i'm sorry...TuPac > BIG...i see BIG like i see Jeezy. sue me

Now don't get me wrong as I never really liked him. But to lump him down with Jeezy? Jeezy is arguably one of the W.O.A.T.s.

[Sammich]

How is Jeezy teh worse?! I never said he was lyrical, everything he says, he just says it, there's no metaphors, he's just pretty much speaking his mind on what he's done in his past and relevant things going on in teh world...like his recession album was a good album. i'm not saying he's a GOAT, but where he's at, he's a helluvalot better than the 'club music' being put out nowadays

[quickdodge®]

How is Jeezy teh worse?!

Pretty much everything points the worst. His delivery stands out to me. He sounds terrible. It's hard to understand anything he says. He's just terrible. And of course he might be better than today's stuff because hip hop as has been getting progressively worse every year.

Hell, today's rap has me liking the music genre "deathcore." Now this is good stuff:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joAXfBgVi60

You dig?

[Sammich]

i saw placenta and immediately did not listen LMFAO. but i would never place Jeezy as 'the worst', one of the rappers i can consistently listen to

[E36slide]

and Just for the record, i think most white people like eminem because he is white, although they dont like to admit it

Not hardly. Name one rapper who hasn't used the word "nigga" and still goes 63763637272737 platinum. White or black he would be the shit. Giving he is white it makes it even that Much better. There is not one rapper out there today as creative yet lyrically complex as eminem in my own opinion.

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[Sammich]

Not hardly. Name one rapper who hasn't used the word "nigga" and still goes 63763637272737 platinum. White or black he would be the shit. Giving he is white it makes it even that Much better. There is not one rapper out there today as creative yet lyrically complex as eminem in my own opinion.

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that last part is where you start stretching alot...but yes he is creative and lyrically complex. but i know there are other rappers out there on Em's level

[E36slide]

you are HIGHLY buggin...Eminem is a monster...i dont care in what time capsule you put him...every generation of rap is afraid to get into a rap beef w/ Eminem

X2

If eminem made a diss cd vs any rapper today their career would come to a stand still.

Haha look at ja rule lmao oh oh maria lolololol Micheal jackson, the handicapped super man the list is endless.

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[E36slide]

that last part is where you start stretching alot...but yes he is creative and lyrically complex. but i know there are other rappers out there on Em's level

Slaughterhouse tends to have the same style now that he is around em alot which should blow his career up. Look at 50 cent...made shit tons of hard core music now he's so rich he makes super homo love music. Only one rapper can make love music sound good and thats luda

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[Sinfix_15]

I never really saw anything that BIG did lyrically that made him 'one of the best' i'm sorry...TuPac > BIG...i see BIG like i see Jeezy. sue me

I never liked BIG or understood why he was regarded as being so great. Big Pun>>>>>>>>>>>>>BIG

[quickdodge®]

Giving he is white it makes it even that Much better.

Lolol. Exactly why the white people are his main followers. It's always been that way. You are one of the people in that crowd. White people are who made Feminem as big as he got because he is white.


If eminem made a diss cd vs any rapper today their career would come to a stand still.

Lolol. You love you some Feminem, huh? If you agree with the "every generation" part, you're clearly not in the know about the history of hip hop, dude.

[quickdodge®]

I never liked BIG or understood why he was regarded as being so great. Big Pun>>>>>>>>>>>>>BIG

I never liked Smalls. But I wouldn't put him above Pun. I think they're kind of on the same level.

[E36slide]

Lolol. Exactly why the white people are his main followers. It's always been that way. You are one of the people in that crowd. White people are who made Feminem as big as he got because he is white.



Lolol. You love you some Feminem, huh? If you agree with the "every generation" part, you're clearly not in the know about the history of hip hop, dude.

Is that why BET named eminem best rapper alive? That's black entertainment tv not white. I like eminem because he raps about shit i go through daily. Sorry if i don't go to clubs and pop bottles with bad hoes.

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[Sammich]

Lolol. You love you some Feminem, huh? If you agree with the "every generation" part, you're clearly not in the know about the history of hip hop, dude.

strong OPINION you speak..i'd like to hear of who you think w/ a couple of possible links to their music as to why you think there's a few that cant touch Eminem...truthfully right now...Yela and Slaughterhouse are the only ones w/ the crazy mind mentality to come at Em the wrong way..and truthfully..only Joell and Yelawolf are the only ones that could bring competition to him..of this generational hip hop


I never liked BIG or understood why he was regarded as being so great. Big Pun>>>>>>>>>>>>>BIG

i think i agree w/ this..seeing as though i've heard about the same amount of music from both artist. i didnt hear much punchlines from BIG....just straight talk, like Jeezy. Pun was more complex than BIG imo..from the little bit i've heard.


I never liked Smalls. But I wouldn't put him above Pun. I think they're kind of on the same level.

[Sammich]

Is that why BET named eminem best rapper alive? That's black entertainment tv not white. I like eminem because he raps about shit i go through daily. Sorry if i don't go to clubs and pop bottles with bad hoes.

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BET and hip hop do not belong in the same category..sorry, Em is a monster, but calling out BET to prove a point in hip hop is not going to help solidify your argument, sorry

[Echonova]

I never liked Smalls. But I wouldn't put him above Pun. I think they're kind of on the same level.Meh... I know it's anecdotal. But this past weekend I had to make a 7 hour car ride to attend my grandma's funeral. Had the iPod on shuffle, Biggie came up... Skip (other than hypnotize). Big Pun came up and I was like "damn I forgot how good he was" and listened to every song.


Again, it means nothing. Neither are the GOAT.

[E36slide]

BET and hip hop do not belong in the same category..sorry, Em is a monster, but calling out BET to prove a point in hip hop is not going to help solidify your argument, sorry

Hey it's all rap pretty much on bet correct? Eminem gets respect from pretty Much every rapper out there.

Plus most rappers now days can't free style to save their life... cough cough lil wayne.

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[Sammich]

rap and hip hop...BET consists of 99.9 rap...........

.1% hip hop

[Sammich]

Meh... I know it's anecdotal. But this past weekend I had to make a 7 hour car ride to attend my grandma's funeral. Had the iPod on shuffle, Biggie came up... Skip (other than hypnotize). Big Pun came up and I was like "damn I forgot how good he was" and listened to every song.


Again, it means nothing. Neither are the GOAT.

i'll listen to all of Biggies songs and what not, but yes..Pun is better. if BIG is mentioned among the GOAT...i dont see why Cam'Ron isnt as he made a song similar to BIG about death...Cam gets no recognition

[Sinfix_15]

Meh... I know it's anecdotal. But this past weekend I had to make a 7 hour car ride to attend my grandma's funeral. Had the iPod on shuffle, Biggie came up... Skip (other than hypnotize). Big Pun came up and I was like "damn I forgot how good he was" and listened to every song.


Again, it means nothing. Neither are the GOAT.

i do the same thing, i never stumble across a pun song without thinking "holy shit i forgot how bad ass this guy was"

[quickdodge®]

Is that why BET named eminem best rapper alive? That's black entertainment tv not white. I like eminem because he raps about shit i go through daily. Sorry if i don't go to clubs and pop bottles with bad hoes.

Lolol. So BET is the determiner of who is best alive. I got you. The "I go through daily" routine, huh? Lolol. You got me.


strong OPINION you speak..i'd like to hear of who you think w/ a couple of possible links to their music as to why you think there's a few that cant touch Eminem...truthfully right now...Yela and Slaughterhouse are the only ones w/ the crazy mind mentality to come at Em the wrong way..and truthfully..only Joell and Yelawolf are the only ones that could bring competition to him..of this generational hip hop

You know what? I'm going to step out of this. Cop out? To you guys, probably. To me, arguing with younger folks about hip hop is pointless. They only know of what they grew up on and (usually) nothing else. They don't realize the full spectrum and don't care to learn about it, either. All they want to do is proclaim their allegiances to whomever they've latched on to. There's a several factors as to why a G.O.A.T. is an opinion only subject.

Y'all have a good one. Seriously. No love lost for either of you, homeys.

[Sammich]

Lolol. So BET is the determiner of who is best alive. I got you. The "I go through daily" routine, huh? Lolol. You got me.



You know what? I'm going to step out of this. Cop out? To you guys, probably. To me, arguing with younger folks about hip hop is pointless. They only know of what they grew up on and (usually) nothing else. They don't realize the full spectrum and don't care to learn about it, either. All they want to do is proclaim their allegiances to whomever they've latched on to. There's a several factors as to why a G.O.A.T. is an opinion only subject.

Y'all have a good one. Seriously. No love lost for either of you, homeys.

i personally asked for hip hop artist you thought was on the same lyrical caliber as Eminem, i didnt want a 'cop out'. i'm open to hip hop, rap, club anthems,e tc

[Sinfix_15]

and Just for the record, i think most white people like eminem because he is white, although they dont like to admit it

I wont deny a bias for this reason. Anytime a person of your own color breaks into a realm where they are not usually prevalent, it is natural and normal to "pull for them". Even though i dont sit around thinking "man, i wish there were more white rappers" , when eminem first came about, him being white made him more interesting. The same as a black nfl QB, its not the "norm" so its natural for black people to wish them well or pull for them. I personally dont see a problem with this on this scale. Acknowledging Em's white bias also doesnt erase his accomplishments or volume of content.

[Sammich]

Em may have brought other audiences, but to true hip hop heads, color doesnt matter. i'm calling Eminem a monster with lyrics. i mean...it's hard to top the guy IMHO. for the people that think him being white is what catipulated himself to being at the top, i think they're wrong, including Em (he referred to his skin as allowing him to be where he's at in closet track)

[Sinfix_15]

When Eminem came out, nothing else sounded anything like him..... it wasnt a white thing either.... he didnt sound white.... he just sounded off the wall crazy.

Vanilla ice sounds white. Eminem sounded like he was from another planet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=sAccm7xUH38#t=6s

[Sinfix_15]

im surprised nobody has mentioned him yet......... but how can we leave this guy off the list. Another one of rap's unique artists.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0IAWh38EO9k#t=64s

[Sammich]

truthfully i've never been a big listener of red and method man

[Sammich]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdraGREBEKg&feature=related

also what about Jadakiss?

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Has no one mentioned Lupe Fiasco yet?

[Sammich]

i think i did and it got overlooked...smh

no one gave 2 shits about Kendrick Lamar either..or King Mez

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I just heard a couple tracks off of Kendrick's new album. Might have to be the first album I've bought in a while

[Sammich]

i like the vibe of it...way different of a flow than anything i've heard..i still have to LISTEN to the lyrics though. my mind has been going from one thing ot hte other lately to pay it any attention.

one SLEPT on newcomer is Big Sean too...he's like the perfect blend of rap and hip hop all in one

[Franco Tirador]

Lolol. Exactly why the white people are his main followers. It's always been that way. You are one of the people in that crowd. White people are who made Feminem as big as he got because he is white.



Lolol. You love you some Feminem, huh? If you agree with the "every generation" part, you're clearly not in the know about the history of hip hop, dude.

Damn QD, i could not have said it better myself, lol, i know a bunch of white kids that know -35646854555454 about rap, but they think Em is the best.

and if you dont think Notorious BIG is good with lyrics, you need to do some research,

yeah, Em is sick when he wants to, like when he first came out his crap was SICK, but his latest, im dont see the quality lyrics he is know for, Royce was sick back then too, his latest....... not so nice


like this old one, this is one of my favorite songs of all time, VERY LYRICS HEAVY!!!


19. Eminem - Bad Meets Evil (The Slim Shady LP) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q90jVlWnKQE)

[Franco Tirador]

i can easily say Jadakiss>Eminem, and yes i have heard enough lyrics from both of them to make that statement, and i know a bunch of raphead black people that agree with me

[Franco Tirador]

Jadakiss and Jay-Z are about the only two that i can say that whenever i hear ANY of their songs, you are bound to hear nice rhymes/lyrics/metaphors, and for you Em lovers, yes his is capable of spitting hot lyrics, it's just that he does not doing ALL the time

[Sammich]

i cant even read what you're saying

[E36slide]

Jadakiss and Jay-Z are about the only two that i can say that whenever i hear ANY of their songs, you are bound to hear nice rhymes/lyrics/metaphors, and for you Em lovers, yes his is capable of spitting hot lyrics, it's just that he does not doing ALL the time

Lol he does it a lot more then jay z and jadakiss...two ppl i rarely see any music from. Jay z has a few decent songs while em has a few good albums....

Who's sold more records? Em. And jay z career has been a lot longer then ems. Damn that must blow being he's white and all lol

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[Sammich]

Jay doesnt have metaphors?!?! LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ok i'm done

[E36slide]

Jay doesnt have metaphors?!?! LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ok i'm done

Who said he didn't?

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[Sammich]

for you to say that Em has more metaphors than Jay...you havent listened to his albums from the beginning....only tracks i can remember that maynot have metaphors in it from Jay...are songs like big pimpin he did..in other word commercialized tracks

[Sinfix_15]

I hate Jayz, never understood why he was so beloved.

What is the best Jayz song?

[Sammich]

BEST? i dont see him having a best of all his masterpieces..but one that's a couple that i like:

Beach Chair - Jay-Z Ft. Chris Martin - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0DDCZJP_Oo)

Jay-Z -22 twos - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0WnHarfqAw)

[E36slide]

for you to say that Em has more metaphors than Jay...you havent listened to his albums from the beginning....only tracks i can remember that maynot have metaphors in it from Jay...are songs like big pimpin he did..in other word commercialized tracks

Em is deff more metaphorically inclined then jay z

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[Sinfix_15]

BEST? i dont see him having a best of all his masterpieces..but one that's a couple that i like:

Beach Chair - Jay-Z Ft. Chris Martin - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0DDCZJP_Oo)

Jay-Z -22 twos - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0WnHarfqAw)

Cant put my finger on why, something about his voice or the pauses, i just dont like him. I like some parts of some songs, but him as a whole i dont like.

[Sinfix_15]

***puts on flame retardant suit***


am i the only one who thinks this was one of the best rap albums of all time?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/47/Ja_Rule_-_Venni_Vetti_Vecci.jpg/220px-Ja_Rule_-_Venni_Vetti_Vecci.jpg

[Sammich]

ayo quick question...didnt see DMX mentioned, i dont think..

[Sammich]

Em is deff more metaphorically inclined then jay z

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you have not LISTENED to Jay-Z


Cant put my finger on why, something about his voice or the pauses, i just dont like him. I like some parts of some songs, but him as a whole i dont like.

that's cool, cant force anyone to like a rapper..IJS..a respect of his lyrics..it's like some people hate


***puts on flame retardant suit***


am i the only one who thinks this was one of the best rap albums of all time?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/47/Ja_Rule_-_Venni_Vetti_Vecci.jpg/220px-Ja_Rule_-_Venni_Vetti_Vecci.jpg

i never heard that album, but i do believe Ja did have some good records so i cant knock it...as far as best...i duno lol

[Sinfix_15]

i never heard that album, but i do believe Ja did have some good records so i cant knock it...as far as best...i duno lol
What??????
What?!?!?!
http://img-cache.cdn.gaiaonline.com/5044a4dd46cb6851c7c140fdebcdabd7/http://i555.photobucket.com/albums/jj458/klepto_510/Lil_Jon_Dave_Chappelle_L_461c9a590d.jpg

[Sinfix_15]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=zdtxoTjqNf0#t=2s

[Sammich]

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/leaving-now-grandpa-simpsons.gif

[E36slide]

you have not LISTENED to Jay-Z



that's cool, cant force anyone to like a rapper..IJS..a respect of his lyrics..it's like some people hate



i never heard that album, but i do believe Ja did have some good records so i cant knock it...as far as best...i duno lol

I've listened to his stuff....

Recovery>blue print and all his other jigga man crap

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[Sammich]

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

[Sinfix_15]

I've listened to his stuff....

Recovery>blue print and all his other jigga man crap

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I agree.... Jayz is not worthy of comparison to Eminem. I know Jayz is regarded as one of rap's royalty, but i have never understood the praise.

[Sinfix_15]

Just to add some more fuel to this debate... here's a random article ranking rappers... again, high praise for jayz.... what do you think about this list?

The 50 Greatest Rappers of All Time | HipHop365.com (http://hiphop365.com/the-50-greatest-rappers-of-all-time/)

[Sammich]

1st off...lil wayne recently..doesnt deserve to be on that list...dedication 2..maybe 3 and before, yea.

other than that...that's a pretty damn worthy list, i'll let it fly.

[BanginJimmy]

to top it off, they ended up being hits. then his battles...dear lord!!!! Em is a monster that every hip hop artist and rapper highly respects and realizes if you battle him, you better come correct. Jay and Nas arent necessarily battle rappers, as their battle showed, but Nas proved to be better at it....but if Nas and Em ever went at it...my $.02 is going on Em

Being white in an industry dominated by blacks, he never would have been seen if he didnt battle.

Someone post up the Eminem ABC freestyle. That was classic.

[l Gizzy l]

dear sweet jesus lil wayne should NOT be on that list. He's hardly a rapper anymore....he just publishes anything he writes, and its allllllll been shit lately.

I agree with that list, feel Busta and twista should be a bit higher up the list, and DMX a bit farther down.

[Sammich]

Being white in an industry dominated by blacks, he never would have been seen if he didnt battle.

Someone post up the Eminem ABC freestyle. That was classic.

you mean battle in the industry or when he was in the '8 mile' lifestyle?


feel Busta and twista should be a bit higher up the list, and DMX a bit farther down.

i dont think so...i've related more to DMX than twista and busta...personal preference tho

[l Gizzy l]

i dont think so...i've related more to DMX than twista and busta...personal preference tho

ahhhh fair enough. I just like Busta's flow, and twista is sharp as well. Cant relate to DMX :( ha and his style is uniquely aggravating

[Sinfix_15]

you mean battle in the industry or when he was in the '8 mile' lifestyle?



i dont think so...i've related more to DMX than twista and busta...personal preference tho

Relating to a rapper isnt always a good thing. I think rappers get too much credit for being "real" and not enough credit for being entertainers. Busta is a great example..... he doesnt have a 10th the street cred as other rappers, but he's 10x the performer as a lot of them. Most of his songs are talking about absolutely nothing..... but they were entertaining as shit. Busta was also a king of the now extinct music video era.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=AL94UKMTqg-9AIE5HbLkQZb_qWITOilyfV&v=GrghtXWfVYM&feature=play er_detailpage#t=180s

[Sammich]

i dont guage a hip hop artist off of entertainment....that's like me saying waka is a great because he gets me hype in the gym............

[Sinfix_15]

i dont guage a hip hop artist off of entertainment....that's like me saying waka is a great because he gets me hype in the gym............

I dont judge rappers solely on entertainment, but i feel like not only is entertainment under appreciated in rap, its almost looked down on.

[E36slide]

Just to add some more fuel to this debate... here's a random article ranking rappers... again, high praise for jayz.... what do you think about this list?

The 50 Greatest Rappers of All Time | HipHop365.com (http://hiphop365.com/the-50-greatest-rappers-of-all-time/)

What!!! Some of those i agree on except for ice cube. Also nas deff isn't the best over tupac or even b.i.g

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[Sinfix_15]

stumbled across this browsing through some rap videos..... laughed my ass off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=c8r9mOxqOhU#t=252s

[Sinfix_15]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=rKEqrQxH_Qg#t=83s

[Sammich]

if i want entertainment, i go to a certain artist, if i want lyrical, i go to another, etc. everyone has their nitch

[BanginJimmy]

I agree with that list, feel Busta and twista should be a bit higher up the list, and DMX a bit farther down.

I was listening to Twista back in the early 90's when he was still calling himself Tung Twista. I had several "Chi-Bangin" mixtapes with a lot of Twista, Psycho Drama, Snipaz, D.A. Smart.

One of my favorite songs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug-_otAToP8



you mean battle in the industry or when he was in the '8 mile' lifestyle

Both really, but mainly back in the '8 mile' times.

[Sammich]

'8 mile' times is what caught the Dre...i dont remember Em battling too much until 50 came on.... Eminem's freestyles is what got me saying what i was saying

[alex14]

Jay-z is my all time favorite rapper.

[Sammich]

i used to say the same ^....

[alex14]

I have no idea how Method man beat out Bun B or Snoop. Jezzy not even making the list is surprising

[l Gizzy l]

I was listening to Twista back in the early 90's when he was still calling himself Tung Twista. I had several "Chi-Bangin" mixtapes with a lot of Twista, Psycho Drama, Snipaz, D.A. Smart.

One of my favorite songs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug-_otAToP8


Yes. Twista is up there in my book.

[Sammich]

I have no idea how Method man beat out Bun B or Snoop. Jezzy not even making the list is surprising

i cant lie...this post made me lost alot of respect for you. as much as i like Jeezy, he dont deserve to be on that list, and method rightly beat out bun and snoop

[alex14]

i've never been super impressed by what i've heard from him. guess i didnt want to listen to him more because of that. Jezzy deserves to be on the list much more than too short. that dude is a clown with no flow who got his fame by somehow getting the opportunity to "rap" along side of big names.

I like some E-40, but he does not deserve to be on that list either.

[Sammich]

JEEZY!!!!!!!!!

[alex14]

Ya'll decide.

Young Jeezy - Hustlaz ambition - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l645oVKe6JQ)

Too $hort - "Don't Fight The Feeling" - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuMIl86kj4E)

[C230K]

Ya'll decide.

Young Jeezy - Hustlaz ambition - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l645oVKe6JQ)

Too $hort - "Don't Fight The Feeling" - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuMIl86kj4E)

Neither

I'd rather listen to Lil B:ninja:

[alex14]

thats not even a good joke.

[Got Milk?]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_ueyefaFDI

[Got Milk?]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc636YK8tX8&feature=related

[Got Milk?]

the game on em, listen to all of it, lyrical as it gets.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CC9J_3PmPGc&feature=related

[RandomGuy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qggxTtnKTMo

[RandomGuy]

I'm still assuming we're talking about lyricists


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7B2VgRShew

[RandomGuy]

Also ATL's own luda... always liked his style and he is/was pretty underrated I think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JXawllCeoY

[alex14]

Luda has a lot of good stuff, but he also has a lot of garbage. He can make great music if he sets his mind to it, but that isnt often.

[l Gizzy l]

No one likes TI? Guess he's considered more Hip-Hop.

and exactly alex, Luda's a strong rapper, just does a lot of poppy tracks that help keep him from being taken serious in the rap genre, imo. But he's very fluid, gotta admit.

[alex14]

I love TI. Met him in person twice. He's a real cool dude.

[Sinfix_15]

Ya'll decide.

Young Jeezy - Hustlaz ambition - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l645oVKe6JQ)

Too $hort - "Don't Fight The Feeling" - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuMIl86kj4E)

I like Jeezy over a lot of names on that list....

i also just now noticed that Snoop wasnt on the list.... that's a crime.

[Sinfix_15]

No one likes TI? Guess he's considered more Hip-Hop.

and exactly alex, Luda's a strong rapper, just does a lot of poppy tracks that help keep him from being taken serious in the rap genre, imo. But he's very fluid, gotta admit.

Loved Luda's first album.... but at some point he started sounding like Beyonce.

[alex14]

Snoop is like #30-something.

[Sinfix_15]

Snoop is like #30-something.

oic, overlooked it because the name wasnt listed straight down

[Theothersawyer]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPHhvyHbDJQ


I will be the first to admit it, that I have not heard much of the earlier classic rap. I honestly came into this thread to see the names of other rapers to look up and listen to their music, but I still believe that Eminem is an insane lyricist.

[THATdude]

rakim...im done

[Franco Tirador]

okay, to all you Em lovers, where would you say is the mecca of rap?? Detroit or New York??? New York, right??? okay. If you ever been to the city of New York, im not talking tourist, but to the streets of the Bronx, to the projects and basketball courts there, you will see and hear people that literally eat, sleep, rap; day in and day out, all they do is perfect their lyrics, and im not talking about rap like poeple here in ATL, i have heard them when i used to live in Dekalb county and that's not rap, people from New York, i can honestly say, KNOW rap, go tell them that Em is the best rapper of all time and they will laugh in your face, you may even get slapped. You have to listen to all the underground freestylers up there, Em is not even on the same level, and most of the people that dont understand Jay-Z is because you have to think about his lyrics, you dont just listen to it, i did not like him at first, but when i started getting his style, that's when i became a real fan.

If i had to say who is the best one alive, i would say Jay-Z, he has been around long enough, and he has the money and record sales to prove it, Em has not even been out long enough to be even called the best rapper, but then again most people that are posting on here DONT really know rap, you know more rock/alternative than you do rap, so..........to you Em is the best, go you!, just dont say that around some black people that listen to nothing but rap

[Sinfix_15]

okay, to all you Em lovers, where would you say is the mecca of rap?? Detroit or New York??? New York, right??? okay. If you ever been to the city of New York, im not talking tourist, but to the streets of the Bronx, to the projects and basketball courts there, you will see and hear people that literally eat, sleep, rap; day in and day out, all they do is perfect their lyrics, and im not talking about rap like poeple here in ATL, i have heard them when i used to live in Dekalb county and that's not rap, people from New York, i can honestly say, KNOW rap, go tell them that Em is the best rapper of all time and they will laugh in your face, you may even get slapped. You have to listen to all the underground freestylers up there, Em is not even on the same level, and most of the people that dont understand Jay-Z is because you have to think about his lyrics, you dont just listen to it, i did not like him at first, but when i started getting his style, that's when i became a real fan.

If i had to say who is the best one alive, i would say Jay-Z, he has been around long enough, and he has the money and record sales to prove it, Em has not even been out long enough to be even called the best rapper, but then again most people that are posting on here DONT really know rap, you know more rock/alternative than you do rap, so..........to you Em is the best, go you!, just dont say that around some black people that listen to nothing but rap

So, let me get this straight..... people from NY know more about rap than people from Atlanta because people from NY like rappers from NY more than rappers from Atlanta? i guess that makes sense, aside from not making sense.

Jayz has been around long enough to be considered the best ever, but Eminem hasnt? Can we put Eminem in the argument next year then? because Jayz put out his first album 1 year before Eminem put out his first album.

Maybe in the next life i will be born black so i can fully understand rap music, personally... i cant see how the color of my skin changes my understanding of the english language or music, but i'll take your word for it and give you the benefit of the doubt that you have no racial bias, even though nearly everything that you post would lead me to that conclusion.

[Sinfix_15]

i cant for the life of me understand why people from NY have a bias towards Jayz.... oh wait, yes i can. I bet if you went to Yankee stadium and told everyone the Boston Redsox were the best baseball team ever they might disagree with you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0UjsXo9l6I8#t=4s

[Sinfix_15]

Wonder what would happen if all of these amazing undiscovered NY street rappers had the chance to tell Eminem he sucked to his face..... here's my best guess.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=JMKhvCu5obE#t=19s

[Sinfix_15]

"scientific" explanation why Eminem is the best rapper ever. Hey Franco, maybe the depth of Em's lyrics are going over your head. Try listening with a dictionary in hand or playing them in slow motion. Also, with a quick google search, you could just read the lyrics at your own pace and give them a little extra time to soak in.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPHhvyHbDJQ&feature=related

[Franco Tirador]

most people that are posting on here DONT really know rap, you know more rock/alternative than you do rap, so..........to you Em is the best, go you!, just dont say that around some black people that listen to nothing but rap

..., ill pm you if i need deeper understanding of Ems lyrics rap pro, i get lost when i try to look it up on google

[Sinfix_15]

..., ill pm you if i need deeper understanding of Ems lyrics rap pro, i get lost when i try to look it up on google

Not claiming to be a rap pro, just pointing out obvious deficiencies in your comments. You say "dont say Em is the best around black people that know rap" i post videos of black people who rap, who are also regarded as some of the best rappers.... saying Em is the best rapper. You say people like me dont like Jayz because his lyrics go over my head, so i post a scientific breakdown of how Em's lyrics are more complex than "jigga man". You say Eminem isnt old enough but Jayz is, i point out that they started at nearly the same time. I broke down every comment you made piece by piece.

No need to PM me, i would prefer for people to be able to share in the "wisdom" you would like to pass on to me.

[-EnVus-]

I am the best ill be spitting some tights shit when i be on da toilet fo realz

[alex14]

"You'd probably run up and ask me some dumb shit like "Whats the difference between a 4.0 and a 4.6?" Like 30-40 grand cocksucka beat it."
I lol'd.

[Sinfix_15]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=iqCSLJD0AgQ#t=12s

[Theothersawyer]

so i post a scientific breakdown of how Em's lyrics are more complex than "jigga man"..

I just posted that same video on the previous page! :D


Fast lane video
I love that song, but I can't stand that Em said "Nicki Minaj but I wanna stick my penis in your anus" I hate Nicki and she is super ugly, so it ruins that song for me! :(

[Sinfix_15]

I just posted that same video on the previous page! :D


I love that song, but I can't stand that Em said "Nicki Minaj but I wanna stick my penis in your anus" I hate Nicki and she is super ugly, so it ruins that song for me! :(

i missed that, reps to you!

I like Minaj..... but i also have a fetish for novelty appearances!

[ezone]

question, and i havent listened to this guy, but what about Kendrick Lamar?

and i know no one has heard of Kaj Kadence

Kendrick was crowned the king of cali by Snoop and Dre and all the other O.G mc's. all his rhymes are incredible.

[RandomGuy]

That's what I'm talking about. Tha Tongue Twista.

EDIT: I didn't mean as the best but rarely do people remember him these days.

Who Am I by Twista on Tim's Bio - Free Music Streaming, Online Music, Videos - Grooveshark (http://grooveshark.com/s/Who+Am+I/38Z5Bh?src=5)

[Sammich]

okay, to all you Em lovers, where would you say is the mecca of rap?? Detroit or New York??? New York, right??? okay. If you ever been to the city of New York, im not talking tourist, but to the streets of the Bronx, to the projects and basketball courts there, you will see and hear people that literally eat, sleep, rap; day in and day out, all they do is perfect their lyrics, and im not talking about rap like poeple here in ATL, i have heard them when i used to live in Dekalb county and that's not rap, people from New York, i can honestly say, KNOW rap, go tell them that Em is the best rapper of all time and they will laugh in your face, you may even get slapped. You have to listen to all the underground freestylers up there, Em is not even on the same level, and most of the people that dont understand Jay-Z is because you have to think about his lyrics, you dont just listen to it, i did not like him at first, but when i started getting his style, that's when i became a real fan.

If i had to say who is the best one alive, i would say Jay-Z, he has been around long enough, and he has the money and record sales to prove it, Em has not even been out long enough to be even called the best rapper, but then again most people that are posting on here DONT really know rap, you know more rock/alternative than you do rap, so..........to you Em is the best, go you!, just dont say that around some black people that listen to nothing but rap

you bugging on your reasoning about eminem...BIG TIME

[E36slide]

you bugging on your reasoning about eminem...BIG TIME

X2 especially since eminem got his start from underground rapping lol eminem is known for his freestyles.

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[trajedy]

While I agree that Jay-Z is an amazing lyricist, I just dont feel like his lyrics compete with eminem's. Also, you made no valid points franco and your theory on knowing rap and new york being the mecca of rap is absolutely retarded. Do research on eminem's freestyles before blabbering on about how he is basically in the minor leagues when it comes to freestyles.

Also, ill leave this here
Eminem - Session One Lyrics - YouTube (http://youtu.be/EwdclehVKo4)

[Julio]

So, let me get this straight..... people from NY know more about rap than people from Atlanta because people from NY like rappers from NY more than rappers from Atlanta? i guess that makes sense, aside from not making sense.

Jayz has been around long enough to be considered the best ever, but Eminem hasnt? Can we put Eminem in the argument next year then? because Jayz put out his first album 1 year before Eminem put out his first album.

Maybe in the next life i will be born black so i can fully understand rap music, personally... i cant see how the color of my skin changes my understanding of the english language or music, but i'll take your word for it and give you the benefit of the doubt that you have no racial bias, even though nearly everything that you post would lead me to that conclusion.


Although Jay Z didnt put out an album since 95/96.. He was rapping w/ JazO, LL Cool J like in 88/89.. You can find some of those early songs... Why JayZ didnt realease before hand.. I dont know...but I can remember Jay Z from those years...

[Julio]

Oh, EM has sold more Records, Jay has made more $$

[Julio]

Anyways... This thread is cornballs.. Whos gives a ratsass who is better.. Lets got get that $

[blaknoize]

Krizz Kaliko

[Sammich]

you know what...truthfully if you consider EVERYYYYYYYYYTHING!!!!!!!!!...Jay-Z is the best rapper alive...he speaks hip hop, he's the most successful hip hop artist alive....so i'm saying...

[E36slide]

you know what...truthfully if you consider EVERYYYYYYYYYTHING!!!!!!!!!...Jay-Z is the best rapper alive...he speaks hip hop, he's the most successful hip hop artist alive....so i'm saying...

I belive eminems net worth is very close to jay z's

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[David88vert]

Christmas is comin' and I've got a closet full of gift wrap.
I'm the best 'rapper alive! My kids will tell you that none of you fools are even close to matchin' me! I've got this all wrapped up!!!

[Sammich]

jay-z is still higher...everytime you hear top earner's jay-z is up top and always above eminem...

SN: post numbers to prove i'm wrong

[Sammich]

Forbes’ Hip Hop Cash Kings: Highest Earning Rappers Of 2012 ‹ The Richest People In The World 2012 (http://www.therichest.org/money/forbes-hip-hop-cash-kings-2012/)

^over double what Em makes.... and Dr. Dre = #1...

[E36slide]

Forbes’ Hip Hop Cash Kings: Highest Earning Rappers Of 2012 ‹ The Richest People In The World 2012 (http://www.therichest.org/money/forbes-hip-hop-cash-kings-2012/)

^over double what Em makes.... and Dr. Dre = #1...
But eminem doesn't have nearly as much inventory. I'm talking about record sales. Jay has clothing and all that other BS.


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[Sammich]

i'm talking EVERYTHING!!!!!! you on Em jock too much. like i said if everything is taken into account, i'm putting Jay as the best, period...Dre is #1 on that list, but i dont see his lyrics having what Jay's does...jay tells stories metaphorically and does it fukin awesome...while he's making money off of records he's making money in other avenues. Em is a better lyricist than Jay, i'd probably give him that..but everything considered. Jay is better

[Sinfix_15]

Eminem is better than Jayz.

Jayz's fame is a product of brainwash, he's been telling you he was the greatest rapper since his first CD came out.....

[E36slide]

i'm talking EVERYTHING!!!!!! you on Em jock too much. like i said if everything is taken into account, i'm putting Jay as the best, period...Dre is #1 on that list, but i dont see his lyrics having what Jay's does...jay tells stories metaphorically and does it fukin awesome...while he's making money off of records he's making money in other avenues. Em is a better lyricist than Jay, i'd probably give him that..but everything considered. Jay is better
J is so much better at rapping yet his records sales are not even close to em's lol im not on his dick he's just a lot better then jay is. Next your going to tell me puff daddy is better too.


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[Sammich]

Eminem is better than Jayz.

Jayz's fame is a product of brainwash, he's been telling you he was the greatest rapper since his first CD came out.....

YES EM is better than Jay lyrically..i'm talking about collectively, incorporating everything...Jay is the best, if not the best to ever do it..i cant think of another rapper who was able to put together as many masterpieces like Jay, have a life outside of it and still be on the up and up in money making...COLLECTIVELY..Jay is better. lyric for lyric...yes Em is better...i dont remember Jay for punch lines that make you say "ooooooooooooooo" Jay's lines make you think and say "damn"

OAN: alot of rappers claim they are the best...IJS


J is so much better at rapping yet his records sales are not even close to em's lol im not on his dick he's just a lot better then jay is. Next your going to tell me puff daddy is better too.


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for you to say that i'd say puff is better than em you are clearly not reading anything i'm saying, with that said, my discussion ends w/ you