GA: Dawn Run IV

[UpSideDownDesi]

-Videos are on the bottom of the info-

<Date> August, 5 2012
<Day> Sunday
<Rendezvous Time> ####
<Location> ######

-Beautiful Sunday morning dawns upon us not with oh so sweet bird chirps, rather automotive gods clearing their throats through tail pipes as we culture the local streets.

-A invitation only private run to enjoy the crisp morning while we disturb the early morning calmness and dry the morning dew off with "Speed & Mischief".

-We are in our 4th Dawn Run after having 3 successful ones over last year and half. Each run gets better as we are joined by regular attendees and new ones.

-Run starts from Point A to Point B, non stop. Not a race, just a run to enjoy company of other enthusiasts and see some very impressive cars in action at the same time. We believe in burning some 93 octane rather than look at cars parked in a parking lot the whole time. Run ends with a get together of all the attendees and other local enthusiasts.

-The Run will end at C & O.

-Space is LIMITED. TIME, LOCATION, & ROUTE will only to be disclosed to registered attendees.

To Register:
-1. Email [email protected]
A. Full name, Make/Model/Picture of vehicle you will be bringing
B. Number of passengers, and contact numbers
-2. Wait for return email with registration paperwork.
-3. Fill out Paperwork, email it back, send in registration fee
-4. Event details will be emailed back few days prior to the run.

-Registration fee is $30 Per Person
-Pre-Run Snacks & Coffee will be provided to all the attendees, covered under the registration fee.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvA_CEyveYQ

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[1civic]

"Damn Street Racers"

[thesammy]

Am I missing something besides some snacks? Why would we want to pay to drive fast on Atlanta hwys?

[CSquared]

Am I missing something besides some snacks? Why would we want to pay to drive fast on Atlanta hwys?

You are not missing anything. He will inevitably claim "exclusivity", but it's still a stupid ass concept. As an alternative you could wake up early as fuck, buy coffee and donuts for 3 dollars and go for a spirited drive without drawing the attention of every cop in a 10 mile radius.

Where does the remaining $27 from the registration fee go? I'm guessing your pocket.

[UpSideDownDesi]

Registration is open, will close once seats are filled.


Am I missing something besides some snacks? Why would we want to pay to drive fast on Atlanta hwys?

You are not missing anything. You don't have to pay and can do it by yourself or friends at no cost to you whenever you would like, but as a organized event with set focus, this event isn't free. Matter of choice. Hope I answered the question you had. Feel free to ask more.


You are not missing anything. He will inevitably claim "exclusivity", but it's still a stupid ass concept. As an alternative you could wake up early as fuck, buy coffee and donuts for 3 dollars and go for a spirited drive without drawing the attention of every cop in a 10 mile radius.

Where does the remaining $27 from the registration fee go? I'm guessing your pocket.


Uh it's you again. First you had a problem with a FREE car meet, Gwinnett Meet, and now this a stupid concept as per you. So you figured out the cost of event at $3 per, awesome. With you so far off the concept, I take that back...You understanding it so well, I hand it to you.

Please share your knowledge with these other runs as well:
BullRun, GumBall, Poker Run, GoldRush...etc. You mad about $27? I can only image what you will do knowing minimum entry fee to 1 of those is $12,000. Have fun...

Ciao

[OnURleft]

You are not missing anything. He will inevitably claim "exclusivity", but it's still a stupid ass concept. As an alternative you could wake up early as fuck, buy coffee and donuts for 3 dollars and go for a spirited drive without drawing the attention of every cop in a 10 mile radius.

Where does the remaining $27 from the registration fee go? I'm guessing your pocket.


In my family we diagnose people as ignorant and stupid as this with tiny penis disorder

You pay for the organization and the opportunity to run with cars that are unlike 99% of this forum. I'd assume your angry either because your dick itself is in fact small, or the shitbox you drive won't pass the registration process

[CSquared]

Uh it's you again. First you had a problem with a FREE car meet, Gwinnett Meet, and now this a stupid concept as per you. So you figured out the cost of event at $3 per, awesome. With you so far off the concept, I take that back...You understanding it so well, I hand it to you.

Please share your knowledge with these other runs as well:
BullRun, GumBall, Poker Run, GoldRush...etc. You mad about $27? I can only image what you will do knowing minimum entry fee to 1 of those is $12,000. Have fun...

Ciao

I think all of the "run" events are pointless. Your event specifically... I hate the fact that you bill it as an exclusive escape from the ricer scene. You drive like assholes on public streets (as illustrated by the video you posted). Sure, you get to cruise around with a few higher end cars, but the sheet metal around your driver seat doesn't make you any less a ricer douchebag if you choose to act like one. Your attendees are not escaping from the ricer scene, they are just doing it with higher end cars (oh, and "exclusivity").

The gwinnett meet... is a rice meet just like any other. You can spend all the time you want decorating a piece of shit, but at the end of the day, it's still just a piece of shit. Accept that and we won't need to argue about it anymore.

As far as cost... for argument sake, post a detailed break down of your cost to run this following event. Sure you may like cars, but tell me at the end of the day this morning run in particular isn't going to put a few bucks in your pocket (I fully expect a bullshit answer to this).


In my family we diagnose people as ignorant and stupid as this with tiny penis disorder

You pay for the organization and the opportunity to run with cars that are unlike 99% of this forum. I'd assume your angry either because your dick itself is in fact small, or the shitbox you drive won't pass the registration process

In my family... a man worried about another man's penis size is diagnosed as homosexual. So maybe you should worry more about that and less about my shit box lol.

I "pay for the organization and the opportunity to run with cars that are unlike 99% of this forum" too... It's called autocross... and I don't have to swerve in and out of traffic like an asshole to achieve that.

[David88vert]

"Ricer meet"
1) Held in parking lot
2) Lots of beater cars with guys talking about their "poorformance"

Autocross
1) Held in parking lot
2) Lots of beater cars with guys talking about their "poorformance"

Avg top speed in an autocross event is 50-60mph. It's for people with slow cars and empty wallets - how many newer 911's and Ferraris do you see at one? Ever see a Bugatti at one? If you enjoy going slow and pretending to be fast, then its for you.
Those serious about performance tend to leave autocross and race karts, or they just stop racing altogether, as autocross is not a solid, consistent path to sponsored racing.

As for Sunny's event, you obviously haven't been to one, and you don't live in reality if you expect someone to do work for free. I hope that he does manage to pocket a few dollars - why shouldn't he?

[CSquared]

"Ricer meet"
1) Held in parking lot
2) Lots of beater cars with guys talking about their "poorformance"

Autocross
1) Held in parking lot
2) Lots of beater cars with guys talking about their "poorformance"

Avg top speed in an autocross event is 50-60mph. It's for people with slow cars and empty wallets - how many newer 911's and Ferraris do you see at one? Ever see a Bugatti at one? If you enjoy going slow and pretending to be fast, then its for you.
Those serious about performance tend to leave autocross and race karts, or they just stop racing altogether, as autocross is not a solid, consistent path to sponsored racing.

As for Sunny's event, you obviously haven't been to one, and you don't live in reality if you expect someone to do work for free. I hope that he does manage to pocket a few dollars - why shouldn't he?

I never claimed super cars at autocross, but we do get quite a few newer porches, vettes, lotuses, and track cars than you describe. The car that I use specifically for autox is a piece of shit, and I won't deny that in the slightest, but I have yet to see one car there that is "riced out" or has non-functional modifications. That's because those folks (ricers) drive around and create anarchy on the streets like a bunch of assholes (much like the concept of this meet). I've never been into street racing, and I've never been into speeding dangerously down the interstate (especially in a group of cars). The video in the first post shows cut-aways to 100mph+ pulls, and if that's not the kind of crowd you want, then why is it focused on so blatantly in the video?

I am not trying to be a sponsored racer... I don't know where that comes from. I just enjoy being able to throw down $40 bucks and throw my car around legally (and in a safe environment). If I can ever personally justify it, I will get licensed for wheel-to-wheel... But Even then, it's just a side hobby.

As far as him making money... He is doing so by promoting dickhead activities on public roadways. Real legit way to do it. :goodjob:

[UpSideDownDesi]

Cramer, w/e you name is first let me give you this:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_o1KXH5e8wFY/TFwibk3t97I/AAAAAAAAARQ/xmNAJ0JDRcg/s320/kleenex.jpg

Now let me ask you, have you been to any event that isn't FREE? I am surprised you are willing to pay for autocross over setting up cones in a dead shopping center and do it for free. People like you, I run into a lot. All you do the best is cry, bicker, rant, and so on when they don't have 1 bit to do with particular activity. Nor have you done one, are doing one, or planning on doing so, but love to be the "wise guy" for the masses. The names douche, idiot, dickhead or w/e you have called everyone so far is coming from a guy going off on a event he hasn't done or planning on doing..."real legit way to do it". You don't fall short (maybe right in or ahead few) of the names you called others.

From your prospective this event being such a irresponsible, filled with people with no sense, driving like lunatics, and raising hell around town has been going on for 3 year with over 10 events, no tickets, no incidents, and all satisfied attendees...all saying event all worth it. That matters the most from people who actually experienced it, not from someone like you because you just don't like. Guess what my nor anyone else events are held on your liking.

The event has a focus on level headed mature crowd with a good taste in vehicles, and expanding your networking withing the locality. There is no racing involved in any of the events neither any one is encouraged to do so. The people who want to do 100+ know how to handle 100+. They didn't buy or mod their cars to do 60mph, when a opportunity comes to go faster. Don't tell me your whole life, you have never done over 100+ on public roads. If you haven't then you have validity, if you did...all this should ignite a lil spark in your head and fire up your brain. If not, your brain is just simply on fire as we have all read in posts above. CO2 extinguisher will help put it out, but Water is free...take that back, gotta pay county. Pee maybe?

As for me making money, I make it while driving among company of cars from exotic to highly modded, in the driver/passenger seat of the car pedal to the metal, burning gas, acting like lunatics on street, high speeds, networking, loving it, and while you do this online....damn do you make me look bad or what.

Telling you cost & expenses, here's a answer you expected..."BULLSHIT".

I will like to thank you for saving me the time to write my ending, and quote you on this:


You can spend all the time you want decorating a piece of shit, but at the end of the day, it's still just a piece of shit. Accept that and we won't need to argue about it anymore.

You sir are a perfect example. End of argument.

[quickdodge®]

While I agree with the naysayers on this event (for a different reason), arguing about it is moot because it will happen regardless. Just let it be. Later, QD.

[CSquared]

While I agree with the naysayers on this event (for a different reason), arguing about it is moot because it will happen regardless. Just let it be. Later, QD.

I realize this, and I am planning on this being my last response.


Blah, blah, blah.

1. Back in the day (when they were still doing them) I paid for and participated in the supra shootout events which were drag, track and dyno. I would pay for and do those again in a heartbeat.

2. As far as me setting up events... I told you in the Gwinnett thread that I set up my own supra meet a few months back, and charged absolutely nothing for the chunk of time and effort it took to organize. All they had to do was pay stone mountain $10 to park and I personally provided $50-60 worth of refreshments, as well as a schedule for the day. I am doing another one at Andretti's sometime before the end of August. I don't want their money.

3. No tickets or incidents in the past doesn't mean you are immune in the future. I don't know how you post a video of a dude doing 100+mph and claim that your attendees are not irresponsible (never mind later acknowledging that you drive like lunatics). I also don't know how you claim that these guys know how to handle 100+, when public roads by definition are an uncontrolled environment. A professional race car driver isn't immune to mechanical failures, getting cut off by a car going half your speed, something running out in the road and so on.

Moral of the story... You and I see things very differently, and you are welcome for the quote.

[David88vert]

So basically cramerizking has never hit 100mph except on the dyno.

That indicates to me that you do not have the experience to determine was is safe for anyone other than yourself. No problem with that except that you are the guy that thinks everyone else drives like lunatics because your race course tops you out at 60.

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[CSquared]

So basically cramerizking has never hit 100mph except on the dyno.

You forgot about the drag strip ;)

[thesammy]

I don't autocross, but At least it's a legal organized event. If you were guaranteeing us no chance of trouble with the law, I could see a fee as being acceptable. But I can literally do the same exact thing with a group of people at no cost, and it would be identical.

Have fun

[UpSideDownDesi]

I realize this, and I am planning on this being my last response.

:goodjob:

[UpSideDownDesi]

I don't autocross, but At least it's a legal organized event. If you were guaranteeing us no chance of trouble with the law, I could see a fee as being acceptable. But I can literally do the same exact thing with a group of people at no cost, and it would be identical.

Have fun
I can't guaranty any trouble with law, neither I force any to speed. We do take precautions on avoiding the law. Scout cars stay ahead and behind the main pack of cars to spot trouble ahead of time. At times we hire the Local PD to safely get us off the local streets in a police escort. Our last run in the cops was 2 cars getting pulled over by certain counties, and officers talked to the attendees. Then asked them for a link where the videos are gonna be posted so they can see the Run, laughed, and went on their way. It's a little risk people like to take in events like these that they enjoy and others who join simply enjoy the event while staying within the Law. I do take safety under consideration. There will be a Free run coming up this year, you are welcome to join.

[David88vert]

You forgot about the drag strip ;)

True.

Maybe you are thinking that people just stay at high speed, but that is not the case. Most guys are running 70-80 on the interstate, and a few briefly hot the accellerater when in mostly empty areas of interstate. They don't stay there, and they don't run 100 miles at 100 for an hour. The risk is much lower than you imply with earlier statements. Is there some risk? Of course there is. Everytime you get on the road, you are risking a fatal accident, and it doesn't have to bee your fault or have speed involved. People die on the track, and on the street, it's just a fact of life, and all you can do is decide what amount/level of risk that you can personally feel comfortable with.

[quickdodge®]

Everytime you get on the road, you are risking a fatal accident, and it doesn't have to bee your fault or have speed involved. People die on the track, and on the street, it's just a fact of life, and all you can do is decide what amount/level of risk that you can personally feel comfortable with.

I disagree with a portion of this (most of it, actually), but that can be taken up with a separate topic. Later, QD.

[David88vert]

How can you disagree with it? It's a fact - watch the nightly news.
We have had several instances where people went the wrong way on the interstate. Speed not an issue there.
How about the bus that went off the Northside bridge? Several killed, no speed involved.
It can happen at any time.

I known more people that have died from crashes on the track than on the street. That doesn't mean that the street is safer, just a different environment.

[quickdodge®]

How can you disagree with it? It's a fact - watch the nightly news.
We have had several instances where people went the wrong way on the interstate. Speed not an issue there.
How about the bus that went off the Northside bridge? Several killed, no speed involved.
It can happen at any time.

I known more people that have died from crashes on the track than on the street. That doesn't mean that the street is safer, just a different environment.

I don't want to further trash this thread, David. But I do think it would be a great topic to debate/discuss in another. Later, QD.

[Doppelgänger]

My shits too slow for this :(

[chaseamundo]

It sounds like fun to me. Would i do it? ....no. Not because of the cost but i'd rather pay for track time or something else where it was legal. I am sure it's fun but id rather not take my chances. Also i probably couldn't keep up lol. jk....





















....but really

[David88vert]

I don't want to further trash this thread, David. But I do think it would be a great topic to debate/discuss in another. Later, QD.

Sure. No problem.

[UpSideDownDesi]

only 4 days left, bump

[Julio]

I agree with Cramerizking to an extent.. Extent is, people can do what ever they want with what they have.. Anyways, I have never made a comment EVER regarding this event ( dont think I have ) never been remotely interested.. Any event you do, is always good to give back to the participants, but in this case, don't think the participants need anything besides free donuts and coffee. I say that becuase by what they drive, seem like they don't need much.. ( I may be wrong ).. Of course, Sunny has to make some money for his time, planning and effort, I also understand that part..

If this was my event.. I would donate a small % to a charity.. Since there is really no need to give back to the participants in this case.. This would possibly get more attention from other people with high end cars as well. I understand " space is limited " don't see how it can be, but I understand the idea behind it ( keep it exclusive ) .. I am willing to bet, you give a small % to charity, charge a little higher price, get a few more high end cars and bottom line, even get better publicity. I personally don't care much of driving with a bunch of other cars, but always supported that charity event " cruise for kids " .. Just like the idea behind it..and catch up with old faces.

Anyways, just my 2 pennies.

[Western.]

Much popcorn was had in the watching of this.....I mean reading of this thread.

Sunny, good luck with the meet bro...I'm sure it's gonna be fun. Expecting some pictures.