Fast and Furious

[BanginJimmy]

This is getting more and more interesting by the day.

I really do wonder if Executive privilege was meant to cover the entire executive branch or just the president. How damning are the documents that Holder is refusing to turn over? Is Obama as deep in this as its starting to look? So many questions, yet the "most transparent administration in history" isnt talking and actually resorting to legal maneuvering to avoid having to come clean.

My guess is that Holder isnt AG if Obama wins a second term. He is the most corrupt AG in the history of this country. It seems every couple of months he is in the spotlight for a questionable call. It started with the NBPP on election day, through the Clemens prosecution, into white house leaks, and ending in F&F with several more in between.

Discuss.

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I know this ain't about fast and furious, but why was baseball getting ANY attention from congress? Banks are getting away with the most illegal shit in history, taking the American economy along with them, and congress is worried about whether or not a dude took steroids? Really???

::packing my bags and moving to England::

[Browning151]

This is getting more and more interesting by the day.

I really do wonder if Executive privilege was meant to cover the entire executive branch or just the president. How damning are the documents that Holder is refusing to turn over? Is Obama as deep in this as its starting to look? So many questions, yet the "most transparent administration in history" isnt talking and actually resorting to legal maneuvering to avoid having to come clean.

My guess is that Holder isnt AG if Obama wins a second term. He is the most corrupt AG in the history of this country. It seems every couple of months he is in the spotlight for a questionable call. It started with the NBPP on election day, through the Clemens prosecution, into white house leaks, and ending in F&F with several more in between.

Discuss.

I've heard the question floating around of how is Obama invoking executive privilege if the White House had no knowledge of F&F as they claim? Wouldn't they have to have involvement to invoke that? Unless, of course, it does actually cover the entire exec. branch as you mentioned. This whole admin has been Chicago style politics from day one, more and more of it is now coming to light. If I was Obama I think I might be looking to drop the dead weight of Holder before the election myself.


I know this ain't about fast and furious, but why was baseball getting ANY attention from congress? Banks are getting away with the most illegal shit in history, taking the American economy along with them, and congress is worried about whether or not a dude took steroids? Really???

::packing my bags and moving to England::

I never understood that whole charade from the beginning. Why are tax dollars being wasted trying to figure out if some dude stuck a needle in another dudes ass? We've got more important things to worry about.

[BanginJimmy]

I know this ain't about fast and furious, but why was baseball getting ANY attention from congress? Banks are getting away with the most illegal shit in history, taking the American economy along with them, and congress is worried about whether or not a dude took steroids? Really???

::packing my bags and moving to England::


I keep hearing people throw out the banks doing all this illegal stuff and there should be prosecutions of bank execs. What exactly have did they do on an institutional level to cause all this talk? I understand that there are going to be cases of fraud out there, but these 'predatory' loans were mostly made to comply with regulations that came from DC, and then only because Fannie and Freddie guaranteed many of them. I dont know much about credit default swaps and how they work, but again, this was a consequence of DC involvement.


You are correct about Congress and baseball. Baseball is an independent organization, let them police themselves.