Thunder vs Heat (Make your pick)

[Sinfix_15]

I won't comment about him in the nfl until he is a starting player. or until he plays, i only think its fair.

is tebow better then sanchez?

good deal, comment away.... he's got a winning record as a starting QB and has already won a playoff game.

[Sinfix_15]

OKC . DUe for a hot shooting night, Miami is due a bad game.

By me predicting this, King James will probably win his crown though LOL

Miami has been due for a bad game. Officiating has canceled it out though. If the refs let them play, OKC wins tonight..... and the next game... and the next game.

[Jdm94Coupe]

OKC . DUe for a hot shooting night, Miami is due a bad game.

By me predicting this, King James will probably win his crown though LOL

It's hard to have a "bad game" when your opponent doesn't play any defense. OKC already had their shooting night when westbrook dropped 43. Miami is making them take tough well defended shots, they can't make them. Simple as that. Dwayne wade has yet to put his mark on this series too, so i could say the same. Wade is due for a big night as well.


good deal, comment away.... he's got a winning record as a starting QB and has already won a playoff game.

No comments from me, seriously. I dont watch too much football anymore, and im SURE i wont watch the jets. Let me know how he does, i'll be looking for your thread(s).


Miami has been due for a bad game. Officiating has canceled it out though. If the refs let them play, OKC wins tonight..... and the next game... and the next game.

If okc plays defense, they will win. regardless of how many three point shots they miss OR how many free throws they miss. if miami scores 100+ again, game over.

[Vteckidd]

It's hard to have a "bad game" when your opponent doesn't play any defense.
Agreed 10000%



OKC already had their shooting night when westbrook dropped 43. Miami is making them take tough well defended shots, they can't make them. Simple as that. Dwayne wade has yet to put his mark on this series too, so i could say the same. Wade is due for a big night as well.

agreed 50%.

OKC shoots 35.8% from 3 point range, they are shooting 27% now. I agree a lot of that is due to Miami having the best perimeter defender in LBJ, but they have had open looks and they just havent hit. They start hitting 3-4 more 3s a game, Miami in trouble. Harden hasnt gone off yet. I think Durant has a BIG GAME tonight.


Itll be a good game regardless :)

[Jdm94Coupe]

I think the pressure got to them as well. Missed open jump shots from a professional basketball team usually doesn't mean you are just cold or having a bad shooting day. normally there is a REAL reason you are missing.(open shots)

i think the first to 100 points wins. if okc doesnt play great defense, i think its over.

[Jdm94Coupe]

I think Durant has a BIG GAME tonight.

I don't think it matters, he always has a good game. He doesnt take many shots. I think their role players have to play great tonight for them to win..... UNLESS westbrook turns into a real PG (dare i say like chris paul,lol) and gives durant open looks AND durant takes more shots then he ever has based on this new found PG......

[Jdm94Coupe]

great first half defense okc. like i said..... they are doing HORRIBLE on defense. and they obviously dont care to change it!

[Jdm94Coupe]

i think the first to 100 points wins. if okc doesnt play great defense, i think its over.


Defense.

[JR VQ 30 de]

for the ones who voted 7 in okc kill your self right now.

[Vteckidd]

Defense.

HORRIBLE. HOW DO YOU LET MIKE MILLER AND SHANE BATTIER BEAT YOU!

Their defense was just bad, just really bad. Props to Miami, they played outstanding

[nelson9995]

ok. my faith in basketball has been restored. lol. miami played well. they did just what I expected.

[Jdm94Coupe]

HORRIBLE. HOW DO YOU LET MIKE MILLER AND SHANE BATTIER BEAT YOU!

Their defense was just bad, just really bad. Props to Miami, they played outstanding

I agree. They left shooters WIDE open ALL night...... i blame brooks.... why was he double teaming lebron again?

[Sinfix_15]

Dear Lebron James,

Please take this championship as a reward for your drama reviving the NBA's ratings after the lockout. I wanted you on a big market team, but never in my wildest dreams would i have imagined you leaving cleveland would have worked out so well for us. People loving to hate you, had them all tuning in the watch the Heat lose..... and you would have done just that if i didnt step in vs the Celtics. I decided not to take any chances with the Thunder and besides, look at you getting to close it out in front of your home fans as an added bonus for this taking the attention away from me rigging the NBA draft lottery. Good thing they cant prove a thing!!! laughing all the way to the bank.

Sincerely, David Stern.

PS, you're gonna have to get the next one on your own.

[Sinfix_15]

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[Jdm94Coupe]

LMAO, okc got WAYYY more calls then miami, they just thought they didnt have to play defense. And got burned!

[Sinfix_15]

LMAO, okc got WAYYY more calls then miami, they just thought they didnt have to play defense. And got burned!

bullshit OKC got more calls than Miami, get your eyes checked son

[NaNissan]

Sinfix come on man, the last 3 games went down to the final minute to decide a winner this last game Miami rain down 3's. The fact that OKC double and triple team LBJ didnt not help them at all, his wide open team mates started hitting their shots and OKC decided they will live with that decision.

[Jdm94Coupe]

Yea okc got the majority of the calls, they made sure tonight that the ref's wouldnt be the problem. You are showing now that you let your pick for the game judge how you view the officials. But im sure we will hear nobody on espn or any network today even hint at the refs leaning towards miami....
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the foul on wade on the lose ball when he was the first one to dive to the ball was ridiculous! The goaltending they called on wade when he CLEARLY block durants shot. Then the CLEAR foul the play after when sefalosha tried to steal the ball from lebron and ran right through him, almost pushing him behind half court.

But either way it goes, NO DEFENSE like i said. You are blaming the wrong people for the loss. They assumed they could double lebron and leave miami's three point shooters wide open. and they got burned, simple as that. im sure vteckidd wont come on here talking about the refs..... but i'll wait and see

[Vteckidd]

bullshit OKC got more calls than Miami, get your eyes checked son

they called the game REALLY tight last night, i was not upset with the refs last night. I do think the Derick Fisher flagrant was absoulutely retarded, but the game was over by then.

Miami just played better. When you hit 14 3 pointers, and MIKE MOTHERFUCKING CHILD MOLESTING MILLER goes 7/7, youre not winning. EVERY SHOT miami took was uncontested. And if it was contested, they made it anyway. OKC just couldnt hit any 3 pointers.

When they doubled, LBJ kicked it=3 pointer
If they played straight up, LBJ drove and scored a layup.

MIami was the better team last night. they were the better team by far.

LBJ deserves the ring and the MVP of the finals. Thats all you can really say. Itll be fun to see what happens next year , we may be witnessing the birth of an epic franchis battle OKC vs MIami.

[Vteckidd]

Yea okc got the majority of the calls, they made sure tonight that the ref's wouldnt be the problem. You are showing now that you let your pick for the game judge how you view the officials. But im sure we will hear nobody on espn or any network today even hint at the refs leaning towards miami....


Skip bayless tweeted last night how bad the Refs were, im watching first take now to see what he says. Youre right though there were bad calls BOTH WAYS last night for the first time IMO.


the foul on wade on the lose ball when he was the first one to dive to the ball was ridiculous! The goaltending they called on wade when he CLEARLY block durants shot. Then the CLEAR foul the play after when sefalosha tried to steal the ball from lebron and ran right through him, almost pushing him behind half court.
That Wade foul was retarded, no idea why that happened. The goaltending call was wrong as well, it looked in full motion to be a goaltend, replay it def was not. The Sefalosha foul was a good no call. Earlier Norris Cole did the same thing to RW and they didnt call it.


But either way it goes, NO DEFENSE like i said. You are blaming the wrong people for the loss. They assumed they could double lebron and leave miami's three point shooters wide open. and they got burned, simple as that. im sure vteckidd wont come on here talking about the refs..... but i'll wait and see

DEFENSE and HOT HOT HOT Miami shooting won the game. LBJ proved he is the best player in the world. The passes he made, wow. He can beat you so many ways

[Sinfix_15]

they called the game REALLY tight last night, i was not upset with the refs last night. I do think the Derick Fisher flagrant was absoulutely retarded, but the game was over by then.

Miami just played better. When you hit 14 3 pointers, and MIKE MOTHERFUCKING CHILD MOLESTING MILLER goes 7/7, youre not winning. EVERY SHOT miami took was uncontested. And if it was contested, they made it anyway. OKC just couldnt hit any 3 pointers.

When they doubled, LBJ kicked it=3 pointer
If they played straight up, LBJ drove and scored a layup.

MIami was the better team last night. they were the better team by far.

LBJ deserves the ring and the MVP of the finals. Thats all you can really say. Itll be fun to see what happens next year , we may be witnessing the birth of an epic franchis battle OKC vs MIami.

thats 1 game...... so they officiated 1 game reasonable. They still butt fucked OKC in games 2-3-4..... the refs took the life out of OKC, everyone saying they didnt play defense............. playing defense was a foul in these NBA finals.

[Sinfix_15]

Yea okc got the majority of the calls, they made sure tonight that the ref's wouldnt be the problem. You are showing now that you let your pick for the game judge how you view the officials. But im sure we will hear nobody on espn or any network today even hint at the refs leaning towards miami....
a
the foul on wade on the lose ball when he was the first one to dive to the ball was ridiculous! The goaltending they called on wade when he CLEARLY block durants shot. Then the CLEAR foul the play after when sefalosha tried to steal the ball from lebron and ran right through him, almost pushing him behind half court.

But either way it goes, NO DEFENSE like i said. You are blaming the wrong people for the loss. They assumed they could double lebron and leave miami's three point shooters wide open. and they got burned, simple as that. im sure vteckidd wont come on here talking about the refs..... but i'll wait and see

Games 2-3-4 were won by the refs...... maybe Miami would have won without assistance.... but we will never know, because the refs made sure they did anyways.

you say i see what i want to see..... google search mother fucker, the rest of the world sees it too.

[Sinfix_15]

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[Vteckidd]

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lol if you watch the video, thats after a mike miller 3 pointer. That was the ref calling the 3 point basket (two arms out) and Spo was gesturing for his team to get back on defense.

It did look suspect for a second though

[Sinfix_15]

This is my closing argument on this and im done talking about the NBA till next season.

6 years after an NBA ref pleads guilty to receiving money to fix NBA games and claims to have been instructed by the NBA to influence higher rated teams to win in the playoffs, the NBA's most ratings driving team wins the NBA finals with a FT discrepancy in their favor in nearly every single playoff game, not just finals.... every single game. An NBA ref, under oath, admits to fixing games, putting people in foul trouble on purpose and not calling fouls on the team he was instructed to help win. 6 years after this happens....... 1 year after the NBA suffers some of it's worst ratings ever, the year of a lockout...... the team with the league's most popular player, highest ratings.... and their own section on ESPN's webpage...... wins the NBA Finals with a FT shooting discrepancy in every single game.

NBA refs served time in prison for fixing playoff games in 2006.............

I'm not claiming to have seen bigfoot here or that i fucked Giselle Bundchen....... this claim is more realistic than you would think.

The refs arent gonna run out on to the court and WWE style hit Kevin Durant with a chair to make the Heat win......but it's obvious they showed favoritism to the Heat and shifted the result of swing games.

[Vteckidd]

ehh little to conspiracy theory for me. There was clearly lopsided officiating in game 2/3 specifically. 2 major blown calls in Game 4. But like ive always said, Miami still played a better game.

Last night there was no question who the better team was.

[Jdm94Coupe]

so the fact okc played no defense has nothing to do with it. LMAO. glad this is over......

[Jdm94Coupe]

and btw okc FUCKED up bad. NO reason to double team lebron, they just made a mistake by letting harden guard him. put durant on him and play straight up. or ibaka since he has the weight advantage over durant if lebron decides to post him up.....

scott brooks is a major reason they lost that game..... oh yea and the old westbrook comes back right on time 4/20 from the floor! and he got all his foul calls, i dont wanna hear that bullshit.....

like i said, there were missed calls on BOTH sides. some of you just choose to ignore it. as usual.

[Sinfix_15]

ehh little to conspiracy theory for me. There was clearly lopsided officiating in game 2/3 specifically. 2 major blown calls in Game 4. But like ive always said, Miami still played a better game.

Last night there was no question who the better team was.

yeah.... probably would have said the same thing the year an NBA ref was sentenced to jail time after pleading guilty for fixing nba games.

The series was over before last night.

[Sinfix_15]

in other news...... Tony Parker filed a 20 million dollar lawsuit against a NYC nightclub for an injury he suffered during a fight between Chris Brown and Drake.......


the most amazing part of this story is that someone was actually injured in a fight between 2 pussies like Chris Brown and Drake.

[Vteckidd]

and btw okc FUCKED up bad. NO reason to double team lebron, they just made a mistake by letting harden guard him. put durant on him and play straight up. or ibaka since he has the weight advantage over durant if lebron decides to post him up.....

They have no one who can guard LBJ. Hes too strong, and LBJ gets foul calls ( because hes so big people foul him).
Durant guarded him=got in foul trouble.
Thabo guarded him= got in foul trouble.
Harden guards him=gets in foul trouble or LBJ just shoots over the top of him

They dont have an answer for LBJ, and most people dont. their strategy was to double LBJ and have the role players (Who in all other series played like shit) beat them.....and the answer is when Battier and Mike Miller are shooting lights out from 3 point range, nothing you can do.




scott brooks is a major reason they lost that game..... oh yea and the old westbrook comes back right on time 4/20 from the floor! and he got all his foul calls, i dont wanna hear that bullshit.....

like i said, there were missed calls on BOTH sides. some of you just choose to ignore it. as usual.

Disagree. They threw a ton of things at Miami and Miami had answers for it all. LEbron had 13 assists????!!!!!! you cant beat that. OKC main problem is their defense just looked 2 steps behind. Go watch the spurs games, and you see how fast their rotations were. Didnt see that against miami. Miami also shot lights out the last 3 games, OKC does not.

OKC is a jump shooting team, and when their shots fall, they are unbeatable. When they dont, they have no half court offense.

[Sinfix_15]

i'm happy for these guys..................

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[Vteckidd]

I HATE MIKE MILLER

[quickdodge®]

Let's wait until next year when there is actually a full season and see how it goes. Bet there will be a different outcome then. Later, QD.

[Franco Tirador]

I have to admit, LBJ played like an MVP this last game, he drove it STRONG to the hoop, they deserve that Championship

[Jdm94Coupe]

2 florida gators, lmao. somehow tebow continues to come up, thanks skip sinless.

[quickdodge®]

I have to admit, LBJ played like an MVP this last game, he drove it STRONG to the hoop, they deserve that Championship*

Don't forget the asterisk. Later, QD.

[Jdm94Coupe]

Don't forget the asterisk. Later, QD.

WTH are you talking about?

[Vteckidd]

Now the "IT WAS A LOCKOUT SHORTENED SEASON IT DOESNT COUNT* arguments will start HAHA

I dont give the Spurs an asterisk, Im not giving LBJ one either. theres no doubt that next year will be HARDER with a full 82 game season and predictably the teams are going to be retooled and tougher. (less injuries usually in regular season). But thats next year, not this year.

[Vteckidd]

We wouldnt be talking asterisk if OKC won, so i expect the same treatment to Miami

[quickdodge®]

WTH are you talking about?

An asterisk as a notation in the sports world denotes a particular factor/technicality that comes with a milestone. Such as been proposed with Barry Bonds reaching the record home run total in baseball with the help of steroids or the New England Patriot's Super Bowl season when they were caught spying on the other team for play information.

You gave off the impression that you were sports-minded. I guess, though, that you're just into the "highlite/copy/pasting" of stats in basketball. Later, QD.

[Jdm94Coupe]

What is the particular factor? The 16 game shorter season?

I dont care about baseball or football. By any means.

[quickdodge®]

What is the particular factor? The 16 game shorter season?

NOW YOU"RE COOKING WITH GAS!!!!!


I dont care about baseball or football. By any means.

AND NOW you just ran out.

Lolol. Later, QD.

[Jdm94Coupe]

Such as been proposed with Barry Bonds reaching the record home run total in baseball with the help of steroids or the New England Patriot's Super Bowl season when they were caught spying on the other team for play information.

You gave off the impression that you were sports-minded. I guess, though, that you're just into the "highlite/copy/pasting" of stats in basketball. Later, QD.

WOW!!!! You are comparing a season with 66 games instead of 82 games to a cheating player in baseball, and a cheating team in football. Wow, just wow. :thinking:


and its highlight.... btw i dont need to copy stats. the nba speaks for themselves, i just gotta paste stats because you guys dont see the games i do. you watch tnt, espn, abc..... u miss a lot of games like that, so i have to show you guys some stuff u missed throughout the season. only reason i post stats....

[i4_garage]

:bigsmilie

[quickdodge®]

WOW!!!! You are comparing a season with 66 games instead of 82 games to a cheating player in baseball, and a cheating team in football. Wow, just wow. :thinking:


and its highlight.... btw i dont need to copy stats. the nba speaks for themselves, i just gotta paste stats because you guys dont see the games i do. you watch tnt, espn, abc..... u miss a lot of games like that, so i have to show you guys some stuff u missed throughout the season. only reason i post stats....

Two things wrong with your post that completely nullify it (the entire post).

1. I didn't compare anything. I simply gave examples of what can be marked with an asterisk.
2. I'm sorry, but I must have missed the part where you moved into my house and monitored everything I do or watch.

You owe me rent, homey! Later, QD.

[Jdm94Coupe]

Two things wrong with your post that completely nullify it (the entire post).

1. I didn't compare anything. I simply gave examples of what can be marked with an asterisk.
2. I'm sorry, but I must have missed the part where you moved into my house and monitored everything I do or watch.

You owe me rent, homey! Later, QD.

How is that the same as a season shortened by 16 games? How could you ever compare that to a team using video to see what the opposing coach is calling and a player using drugs to enhance his playing ability??....

the level you guys go to disrespect lebron and the miami heat is ridiculous.... there is no * by san antonios championship. and there shouldnt be one here. i thought after miami beat the thunder down to the ground, they would get the respect they deserved. obviously not.

But instead i hear people crying about the refs, accusing them of cheating, and now an * next to their championship season. do you really think that if the nba had 16 more games in their season that miami wouldve been the team fatigued by the longer season? hell, we dont know what would've happened. but we know the end result of this season, no need to whine about it or discredit them.....

and when people start saying there is a player that is put on the 3rd team all nba team is better then the person on the 1st team all nba, its OBVIOUS what they have been watching! and what they have NOT been watching..... no need to break into your house to see that. i only pull the stats to show people who don't watch certain teams and players on a consistent basis what they are missing..... thats why i bring up stats. but its really not needed when you speak about a all nba 1st team player. there are only 5 of them in the nba..... no need to really explain more then that.

[quickdodge®]

How is that the same as a season shortened by 16 games? How could you ever compare that to a team using video to see what the opposing coach is calling and a player using drugs to enhance his playing ability??....

Are you not reading? I'll post again.....I never said anything about comparing anything. I never even alluded to that. An asterisk denotes a tainting of something. In this case a shortened season. I'm hoping that the second time around is the charm and you get it now.


there is no * by san antonios championship.

Actually, in some books, there is a denotation of it.


do you really think that if the nba had 16 more games in their season that miami wouldve been the team fatigued by the longer season? hell, we dont know what would've happened.

You're exactly right. No one knows what would have happened if Miami had actually played a full season. We know last year, when they played a full season, they couldn't pull it off.


and when people start saying there is a player that is put on the 3rd team all nba team is better then the person on the 1st team all nba, its OBVIOUS what they have been watching! and what they have NOT been watching..... no need to break into your house to see that.

Huh? Refresh my memory because I don't remember any of this.

Answer me this, son, what does the collective smell of Miami ball sweat taste like? Later, QD.

[Sinfix_15]

Two things wrong with your post that completely nullify it (the entire post).

1. I didn't compare anything. I simply gave examples of what can be marked with an asterisk.
2. I'm sorry, but I must have missed the part where you moved into my house and monitored everything I do or watch.

You owe me rent, homey! Later, QD.

now he has started on you with that bullshit......

"if you dont agree with me its because you dont watch sports"

[Sinfix_15]

2 florida gators, lmao. somehow tebow continues to come up, thanks skip sinless.

um..... Haslem and Miller being Florida Gators has anything to do with Tebow???

I am a Florida fan.... long before.... and well after Tebow.

[Jdm94Coupe]

um..... Haslem and Miller being Florida Gators has anything to do with Tebow???

I am a Florida fan.... long before.... and well after Tebow.

...nvm...

[quickdodge®]

I sure do get tired of winning these debates. Later, QD.

[Jdm94Coupe]

I sure do get tired of winning these debates. Later, QD.

Who are you debating with? Whats the topic?.... are you imagining things again, QD?

[quickdodge®]

Who are you debating with? Whats the topic?.... are you imagining things again, QD?

My last response that you, so conveniently, overlooked. Again. Lolol. Later, QD.

[Jdm94Coupe]

Answer me this, son, what does the collective smell of Miami ball sweat taste like? Later, QD.

You think because I'm the only one in the poll who picked miami in less then 7, somehow im on their balls? Funny thing is, i just give credit where credit is due. They are champions and crushed a team you all said would win, now that they are champions, you all wanna come on here and make excuses to why okc lost or say that their season was tainted.

Sad. Nothing to debate. We all read your "west in 6" comments, you brushed off miami like they were trash. And you have never been more wrong. How can I debate you after that prediction? Predicting that "whoever" won the west would automatically beat miami in 6.... Funny. Pops.

[Western.]

Congrats to the heat, screw Lebron. And thats all I'll say


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[Jdm94Coupe]

Congrats to the heat, screw Lebron.

Best player in the NBA, he will be loved. and he will be hated. Comes with the territory.... im a wade fan myself. I didn't like lebron before, because I felt he always bailed the defenses out by taking long contested jump shots. Since he's changed his approach, he's growing on me more.

[Sinfix_15]

You think because I'm the only one in the poll who picked miami in less then 7, somehow im on their balls? Funny thing is, i just give credit where credit is due. They are champions and crushed a team you all said would win, now that they are champions, you all wanna come on here and make excuses to why okc lost or say that their season was tainted.

Sad. Nothing to debate. We all read your "west in 6" comments, you brushed off miami like they were trash. And you have never been more wrong. How can I debate you after that prediction? Predicting that "whoever" won the west would automatically beat miami in 6.... Funny. Pops.

Had i of been told Miami would shoot 30+ free throws a game, i would have picked miami in 4.

With equal officiating, the top 4 teams from the west would beat Miami in a 7 game series.

[Jdm94Coupe]

Had i of been told Miami would shoot 30+ free throws a game, i would have picked miami in 4.

With equal officiating, the top 4 teams from the west would beat Miami in a 7 game series.

With a better defense, they would've had a chance. Leaving shooters wide open, ignore it if you want. It's the reason they lost homie. The missed call on lebron's foul on durant was the only call that had any effect on the outcome on any game. But they gave him a blocking foul on a CLEAR charge which would've gave him his 6th foul with 3 minutes left in the game. He was NOT supposed to even be in the game, they left his ass in the game. Even though his dumbass kept making stupid ass fouls, they let him stay in the game.

You gotta play defense to win a title. Okc knows that now. The reason they lost is because they didnt play great defense like they did against SA, AND they couldn't make their open shots. They didn't shoot as many fouls as miami because they are a jump shooting team, and rarely took it to the rim, as miami did the entire series.

[Sinfix_15]

With a better defense, they would've had a chance. Leaving shooters wide open, ignore it if you want. It's the reason they lost homie. The missed call on lebron's foul on durant was the only call that had any effect on the outcome on any game. But they gave him a blocking foul on a CLEAR charge which would've gave him his 6th foul with 3 minutes left in the game. He was NOT supposed to even be in the game, they left his ass in the game. Even though his dumbass kept making stupid ass fouls, they let him stay in the game.

You gotta play defense to win a title. Okc knows that now. The reason they lost is because they didnt play great defense like they did against SA, AND they couldn't make their open shots. They didn't shoot as many fouls as miami because they are a jump shooting team, and rarely took it to the rim, as miami did the entire series.

refs didnt allow them to play defense.

[NaNissan]

The truth is they had no answer for LBJ, the kid will only get better.

[Sinfix_15]

The truth is they had no answer for LBJ, the kid will only get better.

No doubt, when zero contact is allowed by the refs, defending LBJ is impossible.

[nelson9995]

In this case I agree with JDMcoupe. Miami did win because they are the better team. if they were even close in talent no way it would have gone 4-1 like it did. It would have gone to game 7. Getting eliminated in game 5 says ALOT about both teams.

and about Lebron... he has so many haters because he is doing something right, and there is noone that can stop him at the moment.

Just like Mayweather. People talk junk and always try to put him down... keep people's personal lives out of the sport. If we are talking about the sport only, Lebron and Mayweather are both the best in their sport yet both have the most haters lol.

These people are getting paid to win.
Miami pays Lebron to do exactly what he did. He doesn't get paid to be a great person and make everyone happy.

[quickdodge®]

You think because I'm the only one in the poll who picked miami in less then 7, somehow im on their balls?

Your pick in the poll had nothing to do with anything. It's the way you've been a sack jockey against everything anti-Miami. Every time someone says something negative about the Heat, you're instantly rising up to defend them by posting stats that you find to back up your defense. You pick and choose your stats to fit your rebuttal.


make excuses to why okc lost or say that their season was tainted.

So they played a full 82 game season?


Sad. Nothing to debate. We all read your "west in 6" comments, you brushed off miami like they were trash. And you have never been more wrong. How can I debate you after that prediction? Predicting that "whoever" won the west would automatically beat miami in 6.... Funny. Pops.

Are my posts that much intellectually superior to your reading comprehension "skills" that you are just pretending to understand it? That's how it seems when you try to respond to my posts with replies that don't even correspond to what I posted. I never "brushed off Miami like they were trash." And I have actually been more wrong. Several times, I'm sure.

And just to be fair with you, sir, I only posted the comment about the season being obscured by the strike for one reason. I was looking for one particular response and it didn't take long to arrive. Mike posted it when he said, "Now the "IT WAS A LOCKOUT SHORTENED SEASON IT DOESNT COUNT* arguments will start HAHA." I was only posting that to see what people would say, lolol.

I was just messing around, BUT, it is true that there will be an asterisk beside this one (sorry Mike, you don't call the shots on who gets asterisks, lolol). All it will do is denote the season being strike shortened.......just like there is an asterisk with the Spurs championship. Nothing more, nothing less.

And to be honest, all the interviews I've seen with Lebron seem to portray him to be a better person after last year. I'm starting to warm up to him a little.


He doesn't get paid to be a great person and make everyone happy.

You should stick with your conspiracy theories. Later, QD.

[Sinfix_15]

In this case I agree with JDMcoupe. Miami did win because they are the better team. if they were even close in talent no way it would have gone 4-1 like it did. It would have gone to game 7. Getting eliminated in game 5 says ALOT about both teams.

and about Lebron... he has so many haters because he is doing something right, and there is noone that can stop him at the moment.

Just like Mayweather. People talk junk and always try to put him down... keep people's personal lives out of the sport. If we are talking about the sport only, Lebron and Mayweather are both the best in their sport yet both have the most haters lol.

These people are getting paid to win.
Miami pays Lebron to do exactly what he did. He doesn't get paid to be a great person and make everyone happy.

Miami shot 136 free throws in 5 games, the NBA record for FTs attempted in the finals is 146 and was set in 1965.........................

Miami attempted less shots than any opponent OKC faced in the playoffs, they shot the same FG % as the other 3 teams that OKC dominated, as much as people want to credit the open 3pt shooting for Miami's win..... every team other than the Lakers hit more 3pts per game than Miami did vs OKC.

OKC had the most offensive possessions per game and took more shot attempts than any team Miami played in the playoffs, they shot the highest FG % of any team Miami played in the playoffs. They hit more 3pt shots than any team Miami played in the playoffs. They scored significantly more points than any other Miami opponent........

I have a hard time ignoring those statistical trends. Like i said........... refs did prison time for fixing NBA playoff games not that long ago................ this isnt an unfounded suspicion.

[nelson9995]

Sinfix- I see what you are saying and you are right about what you feel. Give Miami some credit though... Even though OKC had more this and that than any other team, Miami still won. Which says alot.

QD- That's all you have to say? lol you're funny.

[Sinfix_15]

Sinfix- I see what you are saying and you are right about what you feel. Give Miami some credit though... Even though OKC had more this and that than any other team, Miami still won. Which says alot.

QD- That's all you have to say? lol you're funny.

I agree....... Miami is amazing. They would beat anyone at a game of horse.
http://fromrussiawithdunk.com/files/2012/06/6322150.jpg?9fc045

[nelson9995]

lol are you being sarcastic?

[quickdodge®]

QD- That's all you have to say? lol you're funny.

You didn't really give me a lot to work with, dude. Later, QD.

[nelson9995]

because you selected one sentence out of the many I wrote. Your fault, dude. Later, Nelson. (lol)

[quickdodge®]

because you selected one sentence out of the many I wrote. Your fault, dude. Later, Nelson. (lol)

I've seen all your posts. Just haven't seen any to really put any thought towards responding to!

So there! Later, QD.

[nelson9995]

lol, I see QD I'm just messin with you.

[quickdodge®]

lol, I see QD I'm just messin with you.

Same here, my man. Later, QD.

[alpine_aw11]

I'm actually very impressed with Lebron on and off the court through these finals. I do hate Miami as a team though, look up their flop highlights. Buncha fuckin queers. That is more normal in basketball these days though. But as I said I feel like Lebron grew up a lot through the playoffs, and you're out of your god damn mind if you think he isn't one of the best to play the game. Refs or no refs, he's unstoppable when he's on. His level of athleticism is seriously unreal. I do think OKC is the next dynasty though, and getting shit on this year was the best medicine for them to make it happen.

[Sinfix_15]

I'm actually very impressed with Lebron on and off the court through these finals. I do hate Miami as a team though, look up their flop highlights. Buncha fuckin queers. That is more normal in basketball these days though. But as I said I feel like Lebron grew up a lot through the playoffs, and you're out of your god damn mind if you think he isn't one of the best to play the game. Refs or no refs, he's unstoppable when he's on. His level of athleticism is seriously unreal. I do think OKC is the next dynasty though, and getting shit on this year was the best medicine for them to make it happen.

If Miami lost again this year, the hype would have been derailed and they probably would have traded one of the big three. Derrick Rose is injury prone, Melo's knicks suck, Durant plays for a small market team, Kobe is old........

Lebron is the biggest draw in the NBA and recently moved to a big market team. Him being successful is the best thing that could happen for NBA ratings and exposure.

With that said..... dont you find it somewhat odd that Miami shot nearly record breaking amounts of free throws in the finals?

seems funny that all the good fortune shined upon the absolute best team it could have happened to from the NBA's perspective.

[Jdm94Coupe]

With that said..... dont you find it somewhat odd that Miami shot nearly record breaking amounts of free throws in the finals?

No, I've NEVER seen a team attack the rim like the miami heat did in these finals. They played 100% to their strengths. They took them to the rim like no other team in NBA HISTORY, when OKC double teamed to stop the inside the paint scoring, they dished it out to WIDE open shooters who shoot 35%+ for their nba career's.

I'm sorry homie I saw a evenly ref'd series, OKC just settled for their jump shots, that they normally hit. They missed them and it took away the "explosive" offense everyone said they had. Like skip bayless says..... "you live by the jumper, you die by the jumper" .......

I know you know basketball, if you drive to the rim like lebron,wade,bosh can, you OBVIOUSLY are gonna get to the FT line WAYY more then okc who settles for running down the floor and whoever has the ball, they shoot it with no ball movement.

Mark cuban said it best...... They should've went into a zone like dallas did against miami in the previous finals. They GAVE miami everything they wanted.

[Vteckidd]

If Miami lost again this year, the hype would have been derailed and they probably would have traded one of the big three. Derrick Rose is injury prone, Melo's knicks suck, Durant plays for a small market team, Kobe is old........

Lebron is the biggest draw in the NBA and recently moved to a big market team. Him being successful is the best thing that could happen for NBA ratings and exposure.



Youre dead wrong, they just went through a 3 month lockout to make sure what Miami did CANT HAPPEN AGAIN. the best thing for the NBA was having Lebron (the rightful league MVP) vs Durant (the scoring champion). OKC has a ton of fans, and Lebron is extremely popular. And people want to see lebron fail/win so thats why ratings where so high.

Kobe is still the #1 sold jersey WORLD WIDE!

[quickdodge®]

Youre dead wrong, they just went through a 3 month lockout to make sure what Miami did CANT HAPPEN AGAIN. the best thing for the NBA was having Lebron (the rightful league MVP) vs Durant (the scoring champion). OKC has a ton of fans, and Lebron is extremely popular. And people want to see lebron fail/win so thats why ratings where so high.

Kobe is still the #1 sold jersey WORLD WIDE!

You know you played right into my trap, Mike? Lolol. Later, QD.

[Vteckidd]

im not even paying attention to what you guys are arguing about honestly

[Vteckidd]

I think the officiating was terrible, but its been terrible all year long. I still think Miami won fair and square. Calls could have changed games 2/3 but theres no telling if they would have won (OKC).

Wade raped Rondo at the end of game 2 and there was no call.

LBJ earned his first chip, ill leave it at that, no asterisk recquired

[quickdodge®]

im not even paying attention to what you guys are arguing about honestly

But you responded to the initial comment?



LBJ earned his first chip, ill leave it at that, no asterisk recquired

Asterisk is there, whether you like it or not. San Antonio has one, too. But, like I said before (which I'm sure you read), it only denotes that it was a strike shortened season. Later, QD.

[Jdm94Coupe]

Your pick in the poll had nothing to do with anything. It's the way you've been a sack jockey against everything anti-Miami. Every time someone says something negative about the Heat, you're instantly rising up to defend them by posting stats that you find to back up your defense. You pick and choose your stats to fit your rebuttal.


I never "brushed off Miami like they were trash."

Mike posted it when he said, "Now the "IT WAS A LOCKOUT SHORTENED SEASON IT DOESNT COUNT* arguments will start HAHA." I was only posting that to see what people would say, lolol.

And to be honest, all the interviews I've seen with Lebron seem to portray him to be a better person after last year. I'm starting to warm up to him a little.

Later, QD.

I hardly posted ANY stats about miami, i only posted stats about CP3. Because I know most people haven't seen him play because he has been on bad teams his entire career.

But when it comes to miami, its clear they earned their title, IMO. I dont think 16 more regular season games would've changed the outcome. They finally figured out that they needed to play to their strengths and quit giving opponents what they wanted. I still kinda think you brushed off the entire eastern conference like they had no worth opponents to beat okc or sa. whoever ended up coming out..... but thats neither here nor there....

And i'm sorry, im not sure how people say lebron is a bad guy. I don't see it. Look at how cocky and how much trash talking jordan did. Not saying he is jordan, just saying people think he is the best in the nba and people said jordan was the best in the nba. I think he is CONSIDERABLY less cocky and less arrogant then jordan EVER was.

[quickdodge®]

But when it comes to miami, its clear they earned their title, IMO. I dont think 16 more regular season games would've changed the outcome. They finally figured out that they needed to play to their strengths and quit giving opponents what they wanted. I still kinda think you brushed off the entire eastern conference like they had no worth opponents to beat okc or sa. whoever ended up coming out..... but thats neither here nor there....

I do think that Miami earned their title as well. They came out and played hard. Unlike last season, they played like they really wanted it. As far as 16 more games changing the outcome? No one knows. It may changed it entirely. Someone could have gotten hurt, someone could have fell into a huge slump; anything could have happened. You can't predict injuries. Yes I did brush off the Eastern Conference. I'll agree. But I did say that if anyone had a chance, it would be Miami. But I predicted the Western side and I still stick to it.


And i'm sorry, im not sure how people say lebron is a bad guy. I don't see it. Look at how cocky and how much trash talking jordan did. Not saying he is jordan, just saying people think he is the best in the nba and people said jordan was the best in the nba. I think he is CONSIDERABLY less cocky and less arrogant then jordan EVER was.

Well Lebron has pulled a couple of highlighted stunts that sets him in front of Jordan in the arrogance/cockiness "race." He seems to have toned it down a little bit, but Jordan never reached to the points that James did in cockiness. Of course, as everyone should know, Jordan could have the right to be cocky. He backed his up. And he is definitely one of the best to ever play. James is one of the best playing today, but right now, he is not the best to ever play. Later, QD.

[Sinfix_15]

i think you're all guilty of a judging curve between Miami and Miami of last year.

Miami last year looked like a bunch of worthless pussies that had no heart and didnt deserve to be on the court.

This year they looked like a team that was ready to play and leave it all on the court. They "deserved" to win this year.

Still doesnt overshadow that the officiating was absolute garbage and there was unquestionably an advantage given to Miami. You may think Miami would have won regardless. You may think Miami was the better team.....

You may be right, but that doesnt change how bad the officiating was. I feel like people knew the officiating was helping Miami in games 2-3-4, then when Miami legitimately dominated in game 5 they said... "meh fuck it, they probably would have won anyways".

[Sinfix_15]

Lebron vs Jordan.....................

Lebron isnt fit to wash Jordan's cars. That is all.

[Jdm94Coupe]

i think you're all guilty of a judging curve between Miami and Miami of last year.

Miami last year looked like a bunch of worthless pussies that had no heart and didnt deserve to be on the court.

This year they looked like a team that was ready to play and leave it all on the court. They "deserved" to win this year.

Still doesnt overshadow that the officiating was absolute garbage and there was unquestionably an advantage given to Miami. You may think Miami would have won regardless. You may think Miami was the better team.....

You may be right, but that doesnt change how bad the officiating was. I feel like people knew the officiating was helping Miami in games 2-3-4, then when Miami legitimately dominated in game 5 they said... "meh fuck it, they probably would have won anyways".

The officiating was bad, period. Not for one team or the other. They missed calls ALL season. What about the calls on ginobli in game 6 of the western conference finals. That cost them the chance to go back to SA tied 3-3. But like I said, i felt they missed calls for BOTH teams in the finals. Like I said before, i agree the foul on lebron at the end of game 2 in okc should've been called. But I also believe he charged on battier 3 minutes before that and it would've put his ass on the bench for the remainder of the game anyway. He got off a clean release, he shouldve made it, simple as that. His shooting motion wasn't stopped, he got his with the body, so what, man the fuck up. Lebron gets hit with the body every possession, its the fouls that stop his layup motion/dunk motion that put him on the line. Either way, they lost.

and i agree with you about miami last year, compared to this one. fierce this year! :2cents:


Lebron vs Jordan.....................

Lebron isnt fit to wash Jordan's cars. That is all.

My point went clear over your head, like a tebow pass. :no:

[quickdodge®]

i think you're all guilty of a judging curve between Miami and Miami of last year.

I agree with you here. I am one of those, as well.




My point went clear over your head, like a tebow pass. :no:

A Tebow pass can't go over your head if it's under thrown.

Had to slide that in there. Later, QD.

[Sinfix_15]

The officiating was bad, period. Not for one team or the other. They missed calls ALL season. What about the calls on ginobli in game 6 of the western conference finals. That cost them the chance to go back to SA tied 3-3. But like I said, i felt they missed calls for BOTH teams in the finals. Like I said before, i agree the foul on lebron at the end of game 2 in okc should've been called. But I also believe he charged on battier 3 minutes before that and it would've put his ass on the bench for the remainder of the game anyway. He got off a clean release, he shouldve made it, simple as that. His shooting motion wasn't stopped, he got his with the body, so what, man the fuck up. Lebron gets hit with the body every possession, its the fouls that stop his layup motion/dunk motion that put him on the line. Either way, they lost.

and i agree with you about miami last year, compared to this one. fierce this year! :2cents:



My point went clear over your head, like a tebow pass. :no:



None of your points go over anyone's head. You simply think way too highly of your own opinions. We have discussed this, remember?

[Jdm94Coupe]

None of your points go over anyone's head. You simply think way too highly of your own opinions. We have discussed this, remember?

My point just went over you head, based on your answer. That is clear. This is not the first time.

Hey, I know what I know. Chris Paul=Best Pg in the NBA...... Lebron=Best Player In the WORLD right now. You can argue all you want, I'm far from the only one who thinks this.

Tebow=Great Backup QB....... we agree there, right?

[Vteckidd]

ESPN NBA James Harden expects to stay in OKC (http://m.espn.go.com/nba/story?storyId=8089834)

Harden will take less money to stay in okc .

[Sinfix_15]

My point just went over you head, based on your answer. That is clear. This is not the first time.

Hey, I know what I know. Chris Paul=Best Pg in the NBA...... Lebron=Best Player In the WORLD right now. You can argue all you want, I'm far from the only one who thinks this.

Tebow=Great Backup QB....... we agree there, right?

You're easily the most annoying person this forum has to offer. Your opinions are not facts. Nothing you say or have said is anywhere close to going over anyone's head. You argue like a 9 year old school kid. The only thing you haven't done yet is take your toys and go home. You should seek a career in politics. When all else fails and you're intellectually incapable of producing a compelling counter argument, just insult the other party and proclaim you're right.

[Jdm94Coupe]

You're easily the most annoying person this forum has to offer. Your opinions are not facts. Nothing you say or have said is anywhere close to going over anyone's head. You argue like a 9 year old school kid. The only thing you haven't done yet is take your toys and go home. You should seek a career in politics. When all else fails and you're intellectually incapable of producing a compelling counter argument, just insult the other party and proclaim you're right.

First Team All NBA=Fact
First Team All NBA Defense-Fact
Most Efficient PG in NBA=Fact

My opinion anywhere in that? ..... Didn't think so.

[Jdm94Coupe]

ESPN NBA James Harden expects to stay in OKC (http://m.espn.go.com/nba/story?storyId=8089834)

Harden will take less money to stay in okc .

The reigning Sixth Man of the Year says he doesn't plan to be coming off anyone's bench but Oklahoma City's.

Harden, however, cites the unique togetherness of the team as a reason why he might take less money to stay in OKC.

Him or ibaka will most likely be gone. I assumed it would be ibaka, but apparently everyone on IA thought differently. But check the key words above, it told me where he WANTS to be, but no other teams can show him their $ offers yet, im sure his decision will be much more difficult then he thinks. OKC is a contender based a lot on his talents as well. Its not just westbrook and durant, if he goes to another western conference contender, it may change everything. Let's see what happens mr.kidd.....

[Vteckidd]

As a GM yore keeping ibaka over harden. Harden doesn't want to start. He's vocal about that.

I have a feeling they will keep both. They'll get creative on salary.

Harden has no reason to go anywhere else.

[Jdm94Coupe]

As a GM yore keeping ibaka over harden. Harden doesn't want to start. He's vocal about that.

I have a feeling they will keep both. They'll get creative on salary.

Harden has no reason to go anywhere else.


Harden doesn't want to start...... on oklahoma city

Millions of dollars and potentially playing with a unselfish PG is a great reason to leave IMO, lets just see what they can do for him.

[Vteckidd]

I dont think he wants to be a PG for anyone else. He can sign a 2-3 year deal with okc, and leave later. He knows what's at stake.

He's 23, and already plays "starter" minutes.

[quickdodge®]

Some people and their "pick-n-choose argumenting" style, lolol. Later, QD.

[Sinfix_15]

First Team All NBA=Fact
First Team All NBA Defense-Fact
Most Efficient PG in NBA=Fact

My opinion anywhere in that? ..... Didn't think so.

Clearly the point went right over your head. Happens a lot with simple minded people.

[Vteckidd]

Harden doesn't want to start...... on oklahoma city

Millions of dollars and potentially playing with a unselfish PG is a great reason to leave IMO, lets just see what they can do for him.

Its clear they all LOVE Westbrook. I have friends in the OKC organization and the talk is that the big 3 of OKC are inseperable. They are like brothers. Harden plays starter minutes already , and hes not interested in going anywhere else. THe only way he leaves is if OKC wants him to leave

[Jdm94Coupe]

Clearly the point went right over your head. Happens a lot with simple minded people.

I agree tebow. So simple minded even the simple things pass straight through you. Laid out in front of you on a silver platter...... Sad, so sad.

[Jdm94Coupe]

Its clear they all LOVE Westbrook. I have friends in the OKC organization and the talk is that the big 3 of OKC are inseperable. They are like brothers. Harden plays starter minutes already , and hes not interested in going anywhere else. THe only way he leaves is if OKC wants him to leave

Same goes for ibaka?

[Sinfix_15]

I agree tebow. So simple minded even the simple things pass straight through you. Laid out in front of you on a silver platter...... Sad, so sad.

"typical"

[Vteckidd]

Same goes for ibaka?

The problem is going to come down to the CBA. OKC doesnt have the cap space to sign both at their expected MAX SALARY. And you know that their CURRENT team wasnt good enough to win 2 games against miami so they are in a tough position.

Do you double down and keep everyone and the team exactly the same, or do you let Harden go/trade him for other pieces?

You cant teach height, so I think they keep Ibaka is their first priority. Harden will have to decide money wise what he wants to do and i think OKC doesnt want to lose him so they will get creative in salary.

I think if it comes down to choice you keep Ibaka and let harden go. But i think they will find a way to keep both

[Jdm94Coupe]

"typical"

typical blacks huh..... they always point out the obvious...

i'll tell u what. fuck you. and fuck tebow.

[Vteckidd]

on REALGM they are saying that Hardens exit interview he told OKC FO that he would take less money to be able to stay............

[Sinfix_15]

typical blacks huh..... they always point out the obvious...

i'll tell u what. fuck you. and fuck tebow.

What did Tebow ever do to you?

[Sinfix_15]

The problem is going to come down to the CBA. OKC doesnt have the cap space to sign both at their expected MAX SALARY. And you know that their CURRENT team wasnt good enough to win 2 games against miami so they are in a tough position.

Do you double down and keep everyone and the team exactly the same, or do you let Harden go/trade him for other pieces?

You cant teach height, so I think they keep Ibaka is their first priority. Harden will have to decide money wise what he wants to do and i think OKC doesnt want to lose him so they will get creative in salary.

I think if it comes down to choice you keep Ibaka and let harden go. But i think they will find a way to keep both

i agree, i also think that since Harden is already saying he will take less money to hold it together that he probably feels this is true too and that's why he's willing to be the one who compromises.

[Jdm94Coupe]

What did Tebow ever do to you?

jk man, lol