does this mean i'm a bad person?

[Sinfix_15]

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i dont give 2 fucks who died, if my light is green, get the fuck out of the intersection. i was stuck at a light today for almost 20 minutes because of a funeral convoy. Unless you're a person of some significance, i do not see the need for this. If your family members dont know where the funeral home is.... use mapquest like the rest of us, or buy a TomTom. The whole funeral process annoys me, but having to be stuck in traffic during rush hour so your 75 cousins can skip through red lights on the way to a funeral really pisses me off. How to these stupid fucking traditions still exist in the modern world? it's 2012 and people still pay 10s of thousands of dollars to have people buried in a wooden box. Pay thousands to have some random ass person play a song over a PA and allow you to sit in their room. What's the difference in a funeral chapel and the banquet room at the holiday inn? The entire process is exploitation, but either way.... if you believe in this tradition or not..... GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE GODDAMN ROAD!!!

[Catnip]

You're a dick head and I love it.

[DontHate]

Rant lol

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Anyone who uses Gods name in vein makes them selves look bad

[Sinfix_15]

Anyone who uses Gods name in vein makes them selves look bad

insult falls on def ears when said person does not believe in god.

[DontHate]

insult falls on def ears when said person does not believe in god.

Saw that one coming


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[David88vert]

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i dont give 2 fucks who died, if my light is green, get the fuck out of the intersection. i was stuck at a light today for almost 20 minutes because of a funeral convoy. Unless you're a person of some significance, i do not see the need for this. If your family members dont know where the funeral home is.... use mapquest like the rest of us, or buy a TomTom. The whole funeral process annoys me, but having to be stuck in traffic during rush hour so your 75 cousins can skip through red lights on the way to a funeral really pisses me off. How to these stupid fucking traditions still exist in the modern world? it's 2012 and people still pay 10s of thousands of dollars to have people buried in a wooden box. Pay thousands to have some random ass person play a song over a PA and allow you to sit in their room. What's the difference in a funeral chapel and the banquet room at the holiday inn? The entire process is exploitation, but either way.... if you believe in this tradition or not..... GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE GODDAMN ROAD!!!

Clearly, your parents did not teach you how to behave and have respect for traditions in society. To think that you are more important than the "75 cousins" is arrogance. First, how do you know that the person was not of significance? Who judges what impacts a person's life might have? Second, the dead will never again slow traffic down, so you can't be bothered to show a slight bit of respect?
This attitude that I see with some people is appalling. Arrogance and lack of respect are character flaws. Luckily, they can be changed - if you want them to. Hopefully, as you grow older, you will continually review your actions and behavior, and will continue to improve your character throughout life.

[Elbow]

Yeah, it sort of makes you a bad person. It's called respect, you clearly lack any. Which people who lack respect typically are not respected by others. Especially when you feel the need to take the time to post about it on an internet forum, I am guessing just to hear people say either you're a dick or you're a bad ass and give you reps. There's no other real reason to do it other than attention.

People who lost a loved one deserve the right to get to the funeral all at the same time and have a smooth burial. It's typically not because people get "lost."

[Sinfix_15]

Clearly, your parents did not teach you how to behave and have respect for traditions in society. To think that you are more important than the "75 cousins" is arrogance. First, how do you know that the person was not of significance? Who judges what impacts a person's life might have? Second, the dead will never again slow traffic down, so you can't be bothered to show a slight bit of respect?
This attitude that I see with some people is appalling. Arrogance and lack of respect are character flaws. Luckily, they can be changed - if you want them to. Hopefully, as you grow older, you will continually review your actions and behavior, and will continue to improve your character throughout life.

Being a tradition doesnt make it right. In some parts of Africa sowing a females vagina shut at birth is a tradition and part of their society. Should we conform to accept those traditions too? Funeral ceremony is a scam. I can dig a hole to bury a coffin in about 35 seconds with 2 passes on an excavator. If it took a carpenter a half a day to build my deck, im pretty sure there are plenty who can build a 6 foot box in the same time. Why is the avg cost of a funeral over $10,000? If these are good nature'd traditions done out of respect, why is the funeral business a 15 billion $ a year industry? Atlanta has been in the top 5 crime rate for decades.... so the police force is clearly understaffed... but they find time to devote 6 police cars to a funeral convoy? I'd much rather those officers be protecting living citizens, then maybe there would be less of these funeral convoys to begin with. Not to mention... what is the hurry for a bunch of people who likely called out of work that day to get to a place? the 50 cars stuck in traffic because of them could have been on their lunch breaks. I pay taxes to use the public roads too. Them getting to their destination is no more important than me getting to mine. Show respect? It's respectful to consume an entire intersection so that you can more swiftly get to a destination to practice one of your religious customs that not everyone might share?

[David88vert]

Being a tradition doesnt make it right. In some parts of Africa sowing a females vagina shut at birth is a tradition and part of their society. Should we conform to accept those traditions too? Funeral ceremony is a scam. I can dig a hole to bury a coffin in about 35 seconds with 2 passes on an excavator. If it took a carpenter a half a day to build my deck, im pretty sure there are plenty who can build a 6 foot box in the same time. Why is the avg cost of a funeral over $10,000? If these are good nature'd traditions done out of respect, why is the funeral business a 15 billion $ a year industry? Atlanta has been in the top 5 crime rate for decades.... so the police force is clearly understaffed... but they find time to devote 6 police cars to a funeral convoy? I'd much rather those officers be protecting living citizens, then maybe there would be less of these funeral convoys to begin with. Not to mention... what is the hurry for a bunch of people who likely called out of work that day to get to a place? the 50 cars stuck in traffic because of them could have been on their lunch breaks. I pay taxes to use the public roads too. Them getting to their destination is no more important than me getting to mine. Show respect? It's respectful to consume an entire intersection so that you can more swiftly get to a destination to practice one of your religious customs that not everyone might share?

#1 - We aren't in Africa, we are in the United States, and pulling over for a funeral is an American tradition. If you want African traditions, move to Africa. If you are residing in the United States, have respect and pull over.
Don't go off on tangents.

#2 - I said nothing about the funeral business. This is separate from tradition. Perhaps you should research family burials. In Georgia, you are allowed to perform burials on your own, as long as you stay within the state guidelines. If you want to build a coffin, and bury your dead on your own land, that is legally permissable.

#3 - I've paid for funerals berfore, and have never spent $10K. Have you ever paid for a funeral? Not sure where you came up with that figure. The average is $6K from what I have read. Of course, you can DIY and save more - that your choice. Most people choose to spend the money, and focus their time on taking care of family needs.

#4 - Funeral escort police are not showing respect - they are directing traffic, to prevent accidents. An accident would slow you down even more, and you would be on here complaining about that. Most people that go to a funeral do not know where the burial site is, and the likelihood that they would try to run a red light trying to keep up the car in front is higher. Police are there to help YOU get where YOU are going. BTW - Those high funeral fees help pay for the police escort.
Do you think that driving on the roads is right? It is not. Do some legal homework.

#5 - Funeral processions are not affiliated with religion. You show ignorance once again.

#6 - If you don't like American customs, move out of the country. Don't be surprised though where you find that everyplace has traditions and customs.

Here is a book that addresses family burials and has a section on GA laws. http://www.amazon.com/Caring-Dead-Your-Final-Love/dp/0942679210

[Sinfix_15]

#1 - We aren't in Africa, we are in the United States, and pulling over for a funeral is an American tradition. If you want African traditions, move to Africa. If you are residing in the United States, have respect and pull over.
Don't go off on tangents.

#2 - I said nothing about the funeral business. This is separate from tradition. Perhaps you should research family burials. In Georgia, you are allowed to perform burials on your own, as long as you stay within the state guidelines. If you want to build a coffin, and bury your dead on your own land, that is legally permissable.

#3 - I've paid for funerals berfore, and have never spent $10K. Have you ever paid for a funeral? Not sure where you came up with that figure. The average is $6K from what I have read. Of course, you can DIY and save more - that your choice. Most people choose to spend the money, and focus their time on taking care of family needs.

#4 - Funeral escort police are not showing respect - they are directing traffic, to prevent accidents. An accident would slow you down even more, and you would be on here complaining about that. Most people that go to a funeral do not know where the burial site is, and the likelihood that they would try to run a red light trying to keep up the car in front is higher. Police are there to help YOU get where YOU are going. BTW - Those high funeral fees help pay for the police escort.
Do you think that driving on the roads is right? It is not. Do some legal homework.

#5 - Funeral processions are not affiliated with religion. You show ignorance once again.

#6 - If you don't like American customs, move out of the country. Don't be surprised though where you find that everyplace has traditions and customs.

Here is a book that addresses family burials and has a section on GA laws. http://www.amazon.com/Caring-Dead-Your-Final-Love/dp/0942679210

#1 i dont follow ridiculous traditions regardless of my location.

#2 And if those people were burying their loved ones on their own land, they wouldnt be blocking traffic and i would have nothing to complain about.

#3 "According to FuneralTips.com, in 2009 the average funeral cost is around $7,500. While the casket alone can range between $600 and $10,000, the average cost was about $2,300. The basic service fee for the funeral director was $1,400, plus $600 for embalming, $400 for calling hours, $450 for a ceremony, $625 for transportation and $500 for miscellaneous expenses including writing and placing the obituary, obtaining the proper permits and providing a register book." Chose to do whatever you wish with your time and money. If you want to get in a line of 50 cars and travel to a place..... stop a red lights... i wont have a problem with it.

#4 Same thing could happen to me if im in a hurry because im late for work or trying to get somewhere. The convoy delaying my travel by 20 minutes made me continue to my destination at an increased rate of speed to maintain schedule, no police escorted me for safety. Clearly the police agree with me since in a lot of areas around the united states they are beginning to stop these services.

Do some homework? ok.... "The Right of the Citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, either by horse drawn carriage or by automobile, is not a mere privilege which a city can prohibit or permit at will, but a common Right which he has under the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." [emphasis added] Thompson vs. Smith, 154 SE 579

#5 The Middle Paleolithic (Middle Stone Age) spans the period from 300,000 to 50,000 years ago. Some of the earliest significant evidence of religious practices dates from this period. Intentional burial, particularly with grave goods may be one of the earliest detectable forms of religious practice since, as Philip Lieberman suggests, it may signify a "concern for the dead that transcends daily life."[3] Though disputed, evidence suggests that the Neanderthals were the first hominids to intentionally bury the dead, doing so in shallow graves along with stone tools and animal bones.[4] Exemplary sites include Shanidar in Iraq, Kebara Cave in Israel and Krapina in Croatia. Some scholars, however argue that these bodies may have been disposed of for secular reasons.[5] According to recent archeological findings from H. heidelbergensis sites in Atapuerca, humans may have begun burying their dead much earlier during the late Lower Paleolithic but this theory is widely questioned in the scientific community. Cut marks on Neanderthal bones from various sites such as Combe-Grenal and Abri Moula in France may imply that the Neanderthals like some contemporary human cultures may have practiced excarnation for religious reasons.

#6 1st amendment - The amendment prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances.

I am using my freedom of speech to address my grievances against an establishment of religion using the law to interfere with my right to peacefully assemble at my destination as scheduled.

[Elbow]

How do you know this funeral wasn't for a police or other worker like that? Six police cars does seem like a bit, I only ever see one leading.

[Got Milk?]

So your eager ass couldn't wait few minutes for convoy to pass by in a safe manner, BUT here you are sitting behind a computer for hours, wasting your time doing nothing but complaining about it. You sir are a waste of life.

[David88vert]

#1 i dont follow ridiculous traditions regardless of my location.

#2 And if those people were burying their loved ones on their own land, they wouldnt be blocking traffic and i would have nothing to complain about.

#3 "According to FuneralTips.com, in 2009 the average funeral cost is around $7,500. While the casket alone can range between $600 and $10,000, the average cost was about $2,300. The basic service fee for the funeral director was $1,400, plus $600 for embalming, $400 for calling hours, $450 for a ceremony, $625 for transportation and $500 for miscellaneous expenses including writing and placing the obituary, obtaining the proper permits and providing a register book." Chose to do whatever you wish with your time and money. If you want to get in a line of 50 cars and travel to a place..... stop a red lights... i wont have a problem with it.

#4 Same thing could happen to me if im in a hurry because im late for work or trying to get somewhere. The convoy delaying my travel by 20 minutes made me continue to my destination at an increased rate of speed to maintain schedule, no police escorted me for safety. Clearly the police agree with me since in a lot of areas around the united states they are beginning to stop these services.

Do some homework? ok.... "The Right of the Citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, either by horse drawn carriage or by automobile, is not a mere privilege which a city can prohibit or permit at will, but a common Right which he has under the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." [emphasis added] Thompson vs. Smith, 154 SE 579

#5 The Middle Paleolithic (Middle Stone Age) spans the period from 300,000 to 50,000 years ago. Some of the earliest significant evidence of religious practices dates from this period. Intentional burial, particularly with grave goods may be one of the earliest detectable forms of religious practice since, as Philip Lieberman suggests, it may signify a "concern for the dead that transcends daily life."[3] Though disputed, evidence suggests that the Neanderthals were the first hominids to intentionally bury the dead, doing so in shallow graves along with stone tools and animal bones.[4] Exemplary sites include Shanidar in Iraq, Kebara Cave in Israel and Krapina in Croatia. Some scholars, however argue that these bodies may have been disposed of for secular reasons.[5] According to recent archeological findings from H. heidelbergensis sites in Atapuerca, humans may have begun burying their dead much earlier during the late Lower Paleolithic but this theory is widely questioned in the scientific community. Cut marks on Neanderthal bones from various sites such as Combe-Grenal and Abri Moula in France may imply that the Neanderthals like some contemporary human cultures may have practiced excarnation for religious reasons.

#6 1st amendment - The amendment prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances.

I am using my freedom of speech to address my grievances against an establishment of religion using the law to interfere with my right to peacefully assemble at my destination as scheduled.

You brought up traditions from outside of our continent as though it would support you.

You think that you own the road because you pay taxes? your tax money goes into a general fund, part of which pays for road work. You do not own it, it is for the common good, and "75 cousins" are more of the common than one of you.

So, now you drop 25% of the average cost off....

Nothing says that they have to have a home burial, just that they have the right to. If you want to bury your dead on your own land, I have not problem with it. If I choose to pay to have mine buried, then leave me and mine alone to do so.

"If you want to get in a line of 50 cars and travel to a place..... stop a red lights... i wont have a problem with it." - Evidently you do, as you started this thread.

If you choose to speed, then that is on you. You can't use your statement earlier as a defense, but just to humor you - "75 cousins" speeding through a light sounds to be more dangerous than your one car.

Thompson vs Smith was about driver licensing. It has nothing to do with you not being delayed by a funeral procession. The police are not telling you that you cannot use the roadways, they are simply directing traffic. To think that you should never be delayed on the road is idiotic. I suppose that you will next say that you should not have to pull to the side for emergency vehicles either, as they slow you down from getting to the liquor store. Like I said, go study up.

Burial services are not tied to Christianity, Buddism, Hinduism, etc. Most Americans, including atheists, bury their dead. You have no common sense if you cannot understand that.

You have the right to free speech, but you have no clue about what the First Amendment is about, based upon your statement. Police escorts for funerals are not an establishment of any state-sponsored religion. You seek to stop police escorts and thus block people from peacefully assembling to bury their dead? You are looking to restrict those that have religious beliefs that they must bury their dead? See, I can turn that around also.

If you really believe the garbage that you are spewing, you are beyond hope, and reflect poorly upon your family.

[Bacon]

Does it make you a bad person because you choose not to yield to a funeral line? No.

Does it make you an inconsiderate fucking asshole because you can't show a simple sign of respect for a family that lost a loved one? Sure.

[David88vert]

i was stuck at a light today for almost 20 minutes because of a funeral convoy. ....so your 75 cousins can skip through red lights...


Let's break this down a little further.

One car generally will have an average of two people - some cars will have more, and some will have only one person.

If the procession is very loose, then you would have 1 car every 3 seconds starting to enter the intersection at at time. That's 20 cars every minute entering the intersection. Again, that's if they aren't following each other closely. Generally, processions are fairly slow, and cars bunch up, but we will try to keep the number lower here.

If the police took 1 minute to initiate the block on the intersection, and to get out of the intersection (generally, it shouldn't take 15 seconds), and allowing 1 minute per side (4 sides = 4 minutes) for the intersection to clear after the procession has passed, then you have 15 minutes of procession.

15 minutes at 1 car per 3 seconds entering the intersection is 300 cars, carrying an average of 600 people. That is a really big funeral, and probably not someone who is insignificant. Do you know for certain that 600+ people would show up for your funeral?

Care to rephrase how long you were actually delayed at the light? Sounds to me like you might be embelishing the amount of time that you were really delayed.

[1civic]

Longest I've ever sat is about 5 minutes waiting and that was a pretty long line of cars... Not really a big deal considering I always leave in enough time to make an appointment.. ;)

Now traffic cause by the cluster fuck in Atlanta I'd complain about, but not someones death... :(

[-EnVus-]

Just make sure before you die you tell everyone not to attend your funeral so it will go faster.

[Sinfix_15]

You brought up traditions from outside of our continent as though it would support you.

You think that you own the road because you pay taxes? your tax money goes into a general fund, part of which pays for road work. You do not own it, it is for the common good, and "75 cousins" are more of the common than one of you.

So, now you drop 25% of the average cost off....

Nothing says that they have to have a home burial, just that they have the right to. If you want to bury your dead on your own land, I have not problem with it. If I choose to pay to have mine buried, then leave me and mine alone to do so.

"If you want to get in a line of 50 cars and travel to a place..... stop a red lights... i wont have a problem with it." - Evidently you do, as you started this thread.

If you choose to speed, then that is on you. You can't use your statement earlier as a defense, but just to humor you - "75 cousins" speeding through a light sounds to be more dangerous than your one car.

Thompson vs Smith was about driver licensing. It has nothing to do with you not being delayed by a funeral procession. The police are not telling you that you cannot use the roadways, they are simply directing traffic. To think that you should never be delayed on the road is idiotic. I suppose that you will next say that you should not have to pull to the side for emergency vehicles either, as they slow you down from getting to the liquor store. Like I said, go study up.

Burial services are not tied to Christianity, Buddism, Hinduism, etc. Most Americans, including atheists, bury their dead. You have no common sense if you cannot understand that.

You have the right to free speech, but you have no clue about what the First Amendment is about, based upon your statement. Police escorts for funerals are not an establishment of any state-sponsored religion. You seek to stop police escorts and thus block people from peacefully assembling to bury their dead? You are looking to restrict those that have religious beliefs that they must bury their dead? See, I can turn that around also.

If you really believe the garbage that you are spewing, you are beyond hope, and reflect poorly upon your family.

I dont own the road. I share it. Nothing i do on the public road delays anyone else. Light is red, i stop. Stop sign, i stop. I never go cruising with 50 of my friends and ignore traffic signals.

The information provided said the avg cost of a funeral was $7500 in 2009 with a coffin alone potentially costing as high as $10k. I dont think that there's argument against the idea that the cost of funeral services greatly out weigh their value.

If the funeral convoys stopped and red lights, they wouldnt have interfered with my travel and i wouldnt have had any issue. Are you even reading? Doesnt appear so for someone so confident in questioning another's intelligence.

There's no need for the 75 cousins to be in a hurry. If they endanger themselves, that is their own fault. Everyone has some place to be, yet we all have to obey traffic laws and travel safely. Funeral appointment isnt an excuse to drive recklessly. Leave early like the rest of us.

I gladly pull over for emergency vehicles as i respect their need for urgency and the lives theyre attempting to save in addition to the risk they have to their own. There's absolutely no relation between that and a group of people participating in a (i guess debatable) religious ceremony. No need for someone who passed away to be in a hurry. I understand the need for an ambulance to be in a hurry.

You're right, if i chose to speed, its my fault. Same for the 75 cousins if they chose to ignore traffic signs in an effort to arrive at the same time.

There's no law against me being delayed on public streets, however.... i have a right to use public streets, i must follow the laws of the road and expect everyone else to do the same. I dont feel a (debatabale) religious custom is more important than anyone else's need to get somewhere on time. Maybe stuck in traffic there was a soldier going home to see his wife and kids for the first time in a year, maybe someone who had been unemployed for a year was on their way to a job interview, maybe a single mother who was driving a car without air conditioning had her toddler on board... i can think of a million reasons that are more justified than rushing a group of people to a funeral home so they can have their guilt exploited by a 15 billion $ a year business that uses religious ignorance to pressure people into thinking that spending their hard earned money on a burial ceremony is an honor to the deceased.

Burial ceremony has multiple religious ties and origins, i honestly dont understand how you're denying this.

I do not wish to stop people from peacefully assembling to bury their dead. Even though i am an Atheist, i respect people of all religions rights to do anything they please. They can put together a convoy of 150 cars and travel to the park for a prayer meeting to drink cookies and punch.... that's perfectly fine... hell, i may stop and share a cookie with them...... however........................................... .... i expect every single one of them to stop at red lights.

I am individual. My actions are my own and reflect only on myself.

[Sinfix_15]

Just make sure before you die you tell everyone not to attend your funeral so it will go faster.

You say that jokingly, but i already have. When i die, i wish to be cremated without any type of formal ceremony. Unlike Christians, i value the life that takes place before death more than the supposed one after. I would hate to see my friends and family waste their money to have me buried in a box.

[-EnVus-]

You say that jokingly, but i already have. When i die, i wish to be cremated without any type of formal ceremony. Unlike Christians, i value the life that takes place before death than the supposed one after. I would hate to see my friends and family waste their money to have me buried in a box.
Great maybe we can mix your ashes with some pigeon feed then have you shat out all over the world lol

[Sinfix_15]

Let's break this down a little further.

One car generally will have an average of two people - some cars will have more, and some will have only one person.

If the procession is very loose, then you would have 1 car every 3 seconds starting to enter the intersection at at time. That's 20 cars every minute entering the intersection. Again, that's if they aren't following each other closely. Generally, processions are fairly slow, and cars bunch up, but we will try to keep the number lower here.

If the police took 1 minute to initiate the block on the intersection, and to get out of the intersection (generally, it shouldn't take 15 seconds), and allowing 1 minute per side (4 sides = 4 minutes) for the intersection to clear after the procession has passed, then you have 15 minutes of procession.

15 minutes at 1 car per 3 seconds entering the intersection is 300 cars, carrying an average of 600 people. That is a really big funeral, and probably not someone who is insignificant. Do you know for certain that 600+ people would show up for your funeral?

Care to rephrase how long you were actually delayed at the light? Sounds to me like you might be embelishing the amount of time that you were really delayed.

Columbus is one of the main train stops in the southeast. There's a train parking lot of whatever you would call that right in the middle of columbus with trains entering and exiting from nearly every direction. This all happens right in the middle of all the most highly traveled roads in the business district. Seeing the trains coming and going changes my course on a daily basis and under the right circumstances they back up traffic rather quickly. I add 15 minutes or so to my expected travel time to account for this every single day.

In this particular instance, traffic was already bottle necked before the convoy even arrived. The police cars didnt have clear path to the intersection. I had to listen to police cars laying on their horns and sirens moving stopped traffic out of their way as i sat parked in a lane facing towards would be on coming traffic to move out of their way. After the funeral convoy passed the police hand directed the scattered traffic out of the intersection. By the time i got to move, a train was passing the road ahead of me and i had to take an alternate route around it (which im used to) but could have potentially avoided.

I had 45 minutes to get where i was going, a course that i usually allow 30 minutes to travel and on a good day can travel in 15 minutes. I had to cancel one of my stops and arrived where i needed to be with 5 minutes to spare.


and to be honest............. i'm actually sandbagging on how big of a cluster fuck this really was, because if i gave the full details of this, it would simply sound unbelievable and made up.

[Sinfix_15]

Great maybe we can mix your ashes with some pigeon feed then have you shat out all over the world lol

That would be a great honor!!! to me, spreading someone's ashes in a place of significance honors them more than burying them on a commercial business location. I dont see much of a difference between being buried in a funeral plot or being buried behind a walmart. One commercial property vs another.

[Sinfix_15]

Does it make you a bad person because you choose not to yield to a funeral line? No.

Does it make you an inconsiderate fucking asshole because you can't show a simple sign of respect for a family that lost a loved one? Sure.

You will never see me deny the fact that i am an asshole.

[Bacon]

I gladly pull over for emergency vehicles as i respect their need for urgency and the lives theyre attempting to save in addition to the risk they have to their own.


http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j152/xangelsxlullabyx/411730_3305931100510_1635008661_2692056_123317213_ o.jpg

Would you have pulled over for the convoy to the left of the picture once they got off of the interstate?

[Browning151]

Damn anyone who inconveniences you for some comparatively minuscule amount of time, that "20 minutes" is such a waste compared to the approx 41 million that you'll probably be around for. How often do you actually have to stop for a funeral procession? I can't even remember the last time it happened for me.

[Sinfix_15]

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j152/xangelsxlullabyx/411730_3305931100510_1635008661_2692056_123317213_ o.jpg

Would you have pulled over for the convoy to the left of the picture once they got off of the interstate?

Stated above that i dont have a problem pulling over for emergency workers.

[Bacon]

That convoy was a funeral procession for a Grady EMT that was killed on his way home by a drunk driver not very long ago.

What makes this different from any other funeral procession?

[Sinfix_15]

So your eager ass couldn't wait few minutes for convoy to pass by in a safe manner, BUT here you are sitting behind a computer for hours, wasting your time doing nothing but complaining about it. You sir are a waste of life.

I worked 68 hours this week in 5 days. In between posting on the forum today, i did some work on my vehicle, planted 35 hedges, have been attempting to clean my house. If i want to sit here all day and cup my balls in my hand while playing on my computer, i'm free to do so. Nothing im doing here is holding up traffic......... unless you're at an intersection texting your response to me.

[Got Milk?]

I worked 68 hours this week in 5 days. In between posting on the forum today, i did some work on my vehicle, planted 35 hedges, have been attempting to clean my house. If i want to sit here all day and cup my balls in my hand while playing on my computer, i'm free to do so. Nothing im doing here is holding up traffic......... unless you're at an intersection texting your response to me.


Kid, stop please, you are just making a fool out of your self.

Here you are complaining about a convoy stopping traffic, a convoy carrying a man who probably saved lives of hundreds. Are your serious? In Atlanta, you are found to be stuck in traffic either way, for hours, and here you are complaining about your precious 20 minutes, which I imagine you're over exaggerating. You worked 68 hours in five days? Who is at fault that you have a crappy job and have to work over time to make a living, get over your self. Show your respect, and I'm not talking about respect in religious view, but respect as a human being to another.

[E36slide]

Being a tradition doesnt make it right. In some parts of Africa sowing a females vagina shut at birth is a tradition and part of their society. Should we conform to accept those traditions too? Funeral ceremony is a scam. I can dig a hole to bury a coffin in about 35 seconds with 2 passes on an excavator. If it took a carpenter a half a day to build my deck, im pretty sure there are plenty who can build a 6 foot box in the same time. Why is the avg cost of a funeral over $10,000? If these are good nature'd traditions done out of respect, why is the funeral business a 15 billion $ a year industry? Atlanta has been in the top 5 crime rate for decades.... so the police force is clearly understaffed... but they find time to devote 6 police cars to a funeral convoy? I'd much rather those officers be protecting living citizens, then maybe there would be less of these funeral convoys to begin with. Not to mention... what is the hurry for a bunch of people who likely called out of work that day to get to a place? the 50 cars stuck in traffic because of them could have been on their lunch breaks. I pay taxes to use the public roads too. Them getting to their destination is no more important than me getting to mine. Show respect? It's respectful to consume an entire intersection so that you can more swiftly get to a destination to practice one of your religious customs that not everyone might share?

^x2

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[Sinfix_15]

That convoy was a funeral procession for a Grady EMT that was killed on his way home by a drunk driver not very long ago.

What makes this different from any other funeral procession?

I understand what youre trying to accomplish by bringing up a sensitive topic that questions my stance on the overall matter.

So i guess i'll do the same.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=oQAeu8VTI-U#t=98s

[Sinfix_15]

Kid, stop please, you are just making a fool out of your self.

Here you are complaining about a convoy stopping traffic, a convoy carrying a man who probably saved lives of hundreds. Are your serious? In Atlanta, you are found to be stuck in traffic either way, for hours, and here you are complaining about your precious 20 minutes, which I imagine you're over exaggerating. You worked 68 hours in five days? Who is at fault that you have a crappy job and have to work over time to make a living, get over your self. Show your respect, and I'm not talking about respect in religious view, but respect as a human being to another.

Why in the world would you assume the funeral was for someone that saved hundreds of lives??? well, i guess if you put it that way...... the funeral could have been for captain america or GI Joe.... lets just plug in whatever person makes our argument more compelling. I dont have to work overtime to make a living and my work schedule was referenced for no other reason that an explanation for my desire to be lazy or be on the pc for any extended amount of time. When work needs to be done, some people do it. I guess nurses and doctors should walk out of the hospital @ 40 hours since that's the american way and we refuse to work "crappy jobs". My 20 minutes are precious, regardless of how i decide to use them.

[E36slide]

Why not just have the viewing at the burial site. Seems to be a lot easier especially if you have "75" cousins.

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[Sinfix_15]

Why not just have the viewing at the burial site. Seems to be a lot easier especially if you have "75" cousins.

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The same reason Mcdonalds asks you "do you wants fries with that?"

Funeral service is a business, they have no desire to reduce any level of service or fee required.

[E36slide]

The same reason Mcdonalds asks you "do you wants fries with that?"

Funeral service is a business, they have no desire to reduce any level of service or fee required.

Lol yeah true.

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[Halfwit]

and who decides who "someone of significance" is?

who is anybody to say that someone is more important than the other?

i could give 2 shits who a random person is that is dead, but thye have a family and friends that love the shit out of them, jsut as i would hope people would take my death as a significant event in some peoples lives.

i dont care about ppl in traffic, yeah it should all be at the same place, id rather inquire to your above mentioned significance statement

[Sinfix_15]

and who decides who "someone of significance" is?

who is anybody to say that someone is more important than the other?

i could give 2 shits who a random person is that is dead, but thye have a family and friends that love the shit out of them, jsut as i would hope people would take my death as a significant event in some peoples lives.

i dont care about ppl in traffic, yeah it should all be at the same place, id rather inquire to your above mentioned significance statement

i agree... so the funeral convoy and guests getting to their destination isnt any more important than anyone else on the road that day. Everything people wish to do could be done without the assistance of police escort or stopping traffic. They can still hold ceremony, travel together, ect.... i dont see the significance in their schedule being valued over another's. The funeral service using police escort to speed up one of their services provided (at cost) would be no different than FedEx using police escort to help them deliver packages faster.

[Halfwit]

i agree... so the funeral convoy and guests getting to their destination isnt any more important than anyone else on the road that day. Everything people wish to do could be done without the assistance of police escort or stopping traffic. They can still hold ceremony, travel together, ect.... i dont see the significance in their schedule being valued over another's. The funeral service using police escort to speed up one of their services provided (at cost) would be no different than FedEx using police escort to help them deliver packages faster.

right, but in your first post you said it was not good to hold traffic unless it was a person of significance... sooo your actually saying by agreeing with me that every funeral procession should be like that one

[Bacon]

The problem I see with your video posted above is the people associated with that outrage has the same mentality you have. Just as you say "Why should I have to sit?" is the same as those officers saying "Why should we have to escort?"

That video also has no bearing nor relevance on the topic at hand. You say it's a sensitive topic but what's so sensitive about it?

[Sinfix_15]

right, but in your first post you said it was not good to hold traffic unless it was a person of significance... sooo your actually saying by agreeing with me that every funeral procession should be like that one

I dont think any funeral should have police enforced traffic stops, but i understand their are exceptions to be made even though i dont necessarily agree with those either. I dont value Tom Brady's life any more than someone who works at the supermarket (maybe i do), but i understand if there was a funeral for someone as notable as Tom Brady that it would probably stop traffic whether the police decided to or not. In this case, the police restricted the travel of everyone on the road to speed the travel of the funeral convoy. That is the only thing they accomplish. If the convoy traveled without escort, they would arrived 10-15 minutes later than they did and not effected anyone else on the road that day other than an influx of traffic, which i cant complain about since theyre entitled to use the roads the same as i am.

[1civic]

Although I agree with you on some points Sinfix_15, we as people are not alike... I would much rather have my ashes in a mud puddle than to have my family spend savings on some non-sense...

But as-for the topic I will say this!!

You didn't have to stop, but you did!! ;)

[RL...]

It all comes down to this....if it was your mother/wife being buried.....would you still feel this same way or would you want to stop at every red light.

Im not religous at all but I feel that a persons death ceremony is worth a few minutes of a persons time waiting. I believe one of the biggest downfalls with our society is our lack of compassion for our fellow man.

[RL...]

Not trying to be a dick but you prob wasted more than 20 min of time in this thread...by choice.....so obviously time isn't something you're in short supply of.

[Rhys.]

It is annoying getting stuck at a light for 20 30 min but its just the way it is

[Sinfix_15]

Not trying to be a dick but you prob wasted more than 20 min of time in this thread...by choice.....so obviously time isn't something you're in short supply of.

i'm at my leisure now, wasnt the case earlier today.

[Got Milk?]

right, but in your first post you said it was not good to hold traffic unless it was a person of significance... sooo your actually saying by agreeing with me that every funeral procession should be like that one

lol (Reason that I'm giving up on this thread)

[-EnVus-]

When i go to sleep tonight im gonna pray for you Sinfix

[Julio]

http://www.prepaidfunerals.texas.gov/

[tnomud]

Bad Kharma. I don't care who it is, it's not that frequent of an event and should be treated respectfully. Just my .02.

[Sinfix_15]

When i go to sleep tonight im gonna pray for you Sinfix

Awesome. I had actually planned to start attending church again sometime this month (no joke)

[Elbow]

Awesome. I had actually planned to start attending church again sometime this month (no joke)

Because you feel something is missing or because you want to use what you hear to start more threads on the internet?

You should go, not sure what church you went to before, but maybe you won't make so many clueless comments like all Christians live for the afterlife or all want to be buried.

[BanginJimmy]

I dont mind a funeral being allowed to stay in line and move through red lights. What pisses me off is stopping traffic in both damn directions for one. I dont give a shit who died, Why am I stopping when it has no effect on the damn funeral? I was in the funeral procession for Zach Gamble and even then i was saying how stupid it was for people to be stopped on hwy 92 in Woodstock at 4:30. People say it is about showing respect for the dead, thats a crock of shit. You dont respect anyone you dont know, and if you say you do, you are only saying it because you think you are supposed to.

[David88vert]

I dont own the road. I share it. Nothing i do on the public road delays anyone else. Light is red, i stop. Stop sign, i stop. I never go cruising with 50 of my friends and ignore traffic signals.

The information provided said the avg cost of a funeral was $7500 in 2009 with a coffin alone potentially costing as high as $10k. I dont think that there's argument against the idea that the cost of funeral services greatly out weigh their value.

If the funeral convoys stopped and red lights, they wouldnt have interfered with my travel and i wouldnt have had any issue. Are you even reading? Doesnt appear so for someone so confident in questioning another's intelligence.

There's no need for the 75 cousins to be in a hurry. If they endanger themselves, that is their own fault. Everyone has some place to be, yet we all have to obey traffic laws and travel safely. Funeral appointment isnt an excuse to drive recklessly. Leave early like the rest of us.

I gladly pull over for emergency vehicles as i respect their need for urgency and the lives theyre attempting to save in addition to the risk they have to their own. There's absolutely no relation between that and a group of people participating in a (i guess debatable) religious ceremony. No need for someone who passed away to be in a hurry. I understand the need for an ambulance to be in a hurry.

You're right, if i chose to speed, its my fault. Same for the 75 cousins if they chose to ignore traffic signs in an effort to arrive at the same time.

There's no law against me being delayed on public streets, however.... i have a right to use public streets, i must follow the laws of the road and expect everyone else to do the same. I dont feel a (debatabale) religious custom is more important than anyone else's need to get somewhere on time. Maybe stuck in traffic there was a soldier going home to see his wife and kids for the first time in a year, maybe someone who had been unemployed for a year was on their way to a job interview, maybe a single mother who was driving a car without air conditioning had her toddler on board... i can think of a million reasons that are more justified than rushing a group of people to a funeral home so they can have their guilt exploited by a 15 billion $ a year business that uses religious ignorance to pressure people into thinking that spending their hard earned money on a burial ceremony is an honor to the deceased.

Burial ceremony has multiple religious ties and origins, i honestly dont understand how you're denying this.

I do not wish to stop people from peacefully assembling to bury their dead. Even though i am an Atheist, i respect people of all religions rights to do anything they please. They can put together a convoy of 150 cars and travel to the park for a prayer meeting to drink cookies and punch.... that's perfectly fine... hell, i may stop and share a cookie with them...... however........................................... .... i expect every single one of them to stop at red lights.

I am individual. My actions are my own and reflect only on myself.

Do you realize that a police escort is there to direct traffic? You say you stop for red lights, which are traffic control devices. Police instruction overrides automated traffic control devices, and the officer takes the role of traffic control.
If you are going to complain about the police performing traffic control duties, then you might as well say that all red lights, train crossings, stop signs, etc, delay you from your planned time of commute. Why don't you complain about all instances of road construction, and say that all train crossings should be elevated.
So, if you are in a funeral procession, and the officer blocks the intersection, and you stop for the red light, you are in violation of the law.
Have you considered that perhaps the police know how to direct traffic for a burial better than you do? Perhaps they know more about public safety, and have already determined that controling the intersection is in the interest of public safety?


Obey the law, suck it up, and get on with life. Not everything goes as you want it to in life, get over it.

BTW - One of my aunts was a commited atheist, she still chose to be buried, and had a police escort. What religion was her burial affiliated with, since you state that burials are religious?
Also, have you yourself ever been a driver in an actual funeral procession?

[Got Milk?]

Awesome. I had actually planned to start attending church again sometime this month (no joke)

I heard that churches have ATM's in them now, be careful.

[BanginJimmy]

I heard that churches have ATM's in them now, be careful.

I'm not at all surprised church goers do ATM. They are some of the freakiest people I know.

[PhatBoi1210]

You sir....are a dick! This is the south and traditions hold strong around here, if you dont like it LEAVE. Trust me no one with even notice. Am I the only one who notices he has Tim Tebow as his pic as he is bashing a tradition Im sure Tebow and his family (being Christians) follow!?!

[quickdodge®]

You dont respect anyone you dont know, and if you say you do, you are only saying it because you think you are supposed to.

I don't really know you, but I do respect you, dude. And I know I'm not supposed to. I just do because that's who I am. That being said, I pull over out of respect. I have no where to be that it can't wait a minute or two (these things don't last 20 minutes) for this. I don't knock folks who don't though. I don't necessarily call it disrespectful if you don't pull over. I have not one problem with processions. It's not like I run into one every day. Hell, it's weeks and sometimes months between these.


You sir....are a dick! This is the south and traditions hold strong around here, if you dont like it LEAVE. Trust me no one with even notice. Am I the only one who notices he has Tim Tebow as his pic as he is bashing a tradition Im sure Tebow and his family (being Christians) follow!?!

What does Tim Tebow have to do with this? Later, QD.

[Elbow]

I dont mind a funeral being allowed to stay in line and move through red lights. What pisses me off is stopping traffic in both damn directions for one. I dont give a shit who died, Why am I stopping when it has no effect on the damn funeral? I was in the funeral procession for Zach Gamble and even then i was saying how stupid it was for people to be stopped on hwy 92 in Woodstock at 4:30. People say it is about showing respect for the dead, thats a crock of shit. You dont respect anyone you dont know, and if you say you do, you are only saying it because you think you are supposed to.

BS I respect people I don't know. Maybe that's the problem with the world today, not enough respect.

Everyone deserves respect until they show otherwise. If someone has passed, I will respect the life that was lost.


I heard that churches have ATM's in them now, be careful.

Yeah...ALL churches have ATMs. Those aren't churches, those are businesses using religion to make money.


You sir....are a dick! This is the south and traditions hold strong around here, if you dont like it LEAVE. Trust me no one with even notice. Am I the only one who notices he has Tim Tebow as his pic as he is bashing a tradition Im sure Tebow and his family (being Christians) follow!?!

Huh?

[Sinfix_15]

Because you feel something is missing or because you want to use what you hear to start more threads on the internet?

You should go, not sure what church you went to before, but maybe you won't make so many clueless comments like all Christians live for the afterlife or all want to be buried.

I dont believe in wizards and dragons but i enjoyed all 3 lord of the rings movies. I've spent years in church and enjoyed most of the experience without being a believer. Christians do live for the afterlife. Reaching it is their number 1 goal. Considering the Bible references cremation as a dishonorable punishment, yes... i would assume all Christians do want to be buried.

But no..... i dont seek to go to church for any mischievous purpose.... or to mock them. I dated the preacher's daughter for 8 years, being in the company of religious people is nothing new to me. I dont inherently dislike religious people or have any problem being around them. The "right" church is an enjoyable experience even for a nonbeliever.

[Sinfix_15]

You sir....are a dick! This is the south and traditions hold strong around here, if you dont like it LEAVE. Trust me no one with even notice. Am I the only one who notices he has Tim Tebow as his pic as he is bashing a tradition Im sure Tebow and his family (being Christians) follow!?!

Oh trust me...... i feel the tight clinch of the bible belt around my neck and have a full understanding that we "down here" will be the very last ones to put down our sweet tea, shotguns and bibles......

I respect everything Tebow does without believing in any of the purpose or reasoning behind it. Someone who devotes his life to helping people and has built hospitals for children deserves respect, regardless of what spiritual belief lead them to that cause. Also..... the 143 touchdowns at Florida were nice.

[Sinfix_15]

BS I respect people I don't know. Maybe that's the problem with the world today, not enough respect.

Everyone deserves respect until they show otherwise. If someone has passed, I will respect the life that was lost.



Yeah...ALL churches have ATMs. Those aren't churches, those are businesses using religion to make money.



Huh?

Dont fool yourself...... theyre all a business.
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[Elbow]

I dont believe in wizards and dragons but i enjoyed all 3 lord of the rings movies. I've spent years in church and enjoyed most of the experience without being a believer. Christians do live for the afterlife. Reaching it is their number 1 goal. Considering the Bible references cremation as a dishonorable punishment, yes... i would assume all Christians do want to be buried.

But no..... i dont seek to go to church for any mischievous purpose.... or to mock them. I dated the preacher's daughter for 8 years, being in the company of religious people is nothing new to me. I dont inherently dislike religious people or have any problem being around them. The "right" church is an enjoyable experience even for a nonbeliever.

Well not every Christian follows everything word for word, some may argue they aren't Christians then...but....

I consider myself a Christian but I don't life for the afterlife. I try to be a good person, I don't know exactly what happens when we die, but I don't want to die like some of the hardcore extremist. I also don't particularly care to be put in a box underground when I do die.

In my opinion all of those things shouldn't really matter in religion, the plus I see in religion is having some guidance to follow in your life, not to scare people into believing.

[Elbow]

Dont fool yourself...... theyre all a business.
http://cdn.buzznet.com/assets/users16/celebgossip/default/holy-water-sale--large-msg-119731231918.jpg

Not true at all, not sure what that water is...but...LOL

I use to go to a church that had a volunteer preacher and the church was very small. There were no tv screens, expensive sound system, any of that.

I've been to a few churches that are truly businesses. Huge screens, a stage setup that rivals a concert, it's ridiculous. A friend told me about one he went to that had offering cards where you can pay with debit/credit cards.

I argue the money could have been spent somewhere positive and the reply is always "We do that too."

Yeah? Well you could have spent an extra $10 million and just had a steel frame building instead. lol

[Sinfix_15]

Not true at all, not sure what that water is...but...LOL

I use to go to a church that had a volunteer preacher and the church was very small. There were no tv screens, expensive sound system, any of that.

I've been to a few churches that are truly businesses. Huge screens, a stage setup that rivals a concert, it's ridiculous. A friend told me about one he went to that had offering cards where you can pay with debit/credit cards.

I argue the money could have been spent somewhere positive and the reply is always "We do that too."

Yeah? Well you could have spent an extra $10 million and just had a steel frame building instead. lol

Well, by definition.... they are all business. Some more than others.... i dont recall ever seeing a church that didnt collect at least some money. Even a "volunteer" preacher would collect some form of payment i imagine. It's custom for the church to pay for the preacher's housing and travel. Even if i didnt collect a paycheck, if someone was paying my rent for me, that would be payment. Theyre not all multi million $ televangelist blood suckers, but they collect money in some capacity.


to the above comment, i would hope that no christian follows the bible word for word, because to be honest.... that would be terrifying. Religion for it's merit is a positive thing. When guidance becomes control, not so much.

[C230K]

You sir are an ass

[ash7]

You say that jokingly, but i already have. When i die, i wish to be cremated without any type of formal ceremony. Unlike Christians, i value the life that takes place before death more than the supposed one after. I would hate to see my friends and family waste their money to have me buried in a box.

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that this reference and generalization of Christians was meant to be more directed towards "religion in general" and an attempt to distract away from your OP. Which, by the looks of how many pages this has gone on and the complete topic change by pg 4 seems to have been a success.

I really think you're only continuing to post in this thread you made in an attempt to save face on the internet; you've gotta have better things to do man...
-jonathan asher

[Got Milk?]

BS I respect people I don't know. Maybe that's the problem with the world today, not enough respect.

Everyone deserves respect until they show otherwise. If someone has passed, I will respect the life that was lost.



Yeah...ALL churches have ATMs. Those aren't churches, those are businesses using religion to make money.



Huh?

ATM

[Sinfix_15]

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that this reference and generalization of Christians was meant to be more directed towards "religion in general" and an attempt to distract away from your OP. Which, by the looks of how many pages this has gone on and the complete topic change by pg 4 seems to have been a success.

I really think you're only continuing to post in this thread you made in an attempt to save face on the internet; you've gotta have better things to do man...
-jonathan asher

No attempt at saving face as i feel none needed. I do need to find better hobbies though.

[E36slide]

My church has a fucking Starbucks...... your 10% at work. Smh

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[Keebs ð¿ð]

I know I'm coming into this late, and I'm way too lazy to read 4 pages of posts. So all I know is it started with something about wanting to ignore tradition, then whether or not it was disrespectful, then something about having a Starbucks in a church. But for me, I could careless how I'm disposed of once I'm dead, or how many people I inconvenience with some motor pool of assholes who think they new me enough to show up to my funeral. I will say this though, I honest to god tried to have my last will notarized stating I wanted to have a taxidermist stuff my body in a way where I was standing up with my left hand opened just enough for a beer can to fit in firmly and my right hand in the air for everyone to give me a high five as they walked by. That way, even after death I would still be the talk of the party :p But sadly, I found out fairly quick when trying to have it notarized that it is illegal to have a human body taxidermied(I guess stuffed is the proper term, eh whatever). So anyways, that's my story. No clue how far from the topic it strayed from, I'm since use to the Whoreslounge style of posting random shit in other people's threads

[RandomGuy]

I know I'm coming into this late, and I'm way too lazy to read 4 pages of posts. So all I know is it started with something about wanting to ignore tradition, then whether or not it was disrespectful, then something about having a Starbucks in a church. But for me, I could careless how I'm disposed of once I'm dead, or how many people I inconvenience with some motor pool of assholes who think they new me enough to show up to my funeral. I will say this though, I honest to god tried to have my last will notarized stating I wanted to have a taxidermist stuff my body in a way where I was standing up with my left hand opened just enough for a beer can to fit in firmly and my right hand in the air for everyone to give me a high five as they walked by. That way, even after death I would still be the talk of the party :p But sadly, I found out fairly quick when trying to have it notarized that it is illegal to have a human body taxidermied(I guess stuffed is the proper term, eh whatever). So anyways, that's my story. No clue how far from the topic it strayed from, I'm since use to the Whoreslounge style of posting random shit in other people's threads

Grade A:
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[Keebs ð¿ð]

Pfft Hasan, I clearly stated I didn't read through this and posting something that'll probably be completely off topic. Learn to read man, so you can read when I state that I don't read. But while we're on the subject, what exactly did this thread end up being about after it drifted away from not wanting to wait on funeral motor pools?

[blaknoize]

#4 Same thing could happen to me if im in a hurry because im late for work or trying to get somewhere. The convoy delaying my travel by 20 minutes made me continue to my destination at an increased rate of speed to maintain schedule, no police escorted me for safety. Clearly the police agree with me since in a lot of areas around the united states they are beginning to stop these services.

You could of called into your work and let them know you were delayed by a convoy. I was caught behind a "marathon" that I had no idea of and was delayed IN TRAFFIC for an hour. I called into work and told them, end of story. I wont comment on the other things because you sound like a lil kid. But respect for the dead should always be given.

Also, without a police escort, bikers can block off traffic for their crews to ride past just as well as a car club blocking off traffic to pass an intersection. I've stopped my car with a few friends headed to a meet, I think that even occured on the Santa Run back in the day. That delayed plently of people (if you attended) for no reason at all except for safe travel to the destination of a bunch of people.

[-EnVus-]

Shouldnt this be in the religious section cause its clearly a thing of faith......Only a non believer would be so disrespectful then wish to discuss it.

[Sinfix_15]

You could of called into your work and let them know you were delayed by a convoy. I was caught behind a "marathon" that I had no idea of and was delayed IN TRAFFIC for an hour. I called into work and told them, end of story. I wont comment on the other things because you sound like a lil kid. But respect for the dead should always be given.

Also, without a police escort, bikers can block off traffic for their crews to ride past just as well as a car club blocking off traffic to pass an intersection. I've stopped my car with a few friends headed to a meet, I think that even occured on the Santa Run back in the day. That delayed plently of people (if you attended) for no reason at all except for safe travel to the destination of a bunch of people.

I sound like a kid, but the people who believe in angels dont.

I do respect the dead, all of the people holding up traffic were alive.

[Sinfix_15]

Shouldnt this be in the religious section cause its clearly a thing of faith......Only a non believer would be so disrespectful then wish to discuss it.

i am a nonbeliever. i think blocking traffic is disrespectful.

[Sinfix_15]

You could of called into your work and let them know you were delayed by a convoy. I was caught behind a "marathon" that I had no idea of and was delayed IN TRAFFIC for an hour. I called into work and told them, end of story. I wont comment on the other things because you sound like a lil kid. But respect for the dead should always be given.

Also, without a police escort, bikers can block off traffic for their crews to ride past just as well as a car club blocking off traffic to pass an intersection. I've stopped my car with a few friends headed to a meet, I think that even occured on the Santa Run back in the day. That delayed plently of people (if you attended) for no reason at all except for safe travel to the destination of a bunch of people.

i dont think ive ever seen a group of people block off traffic by themselves.

[David88vert]

i dont think ive ever seen a group of people block off traffic by themselves.

Happens all the time. Enough that I even know when and where for a group - they are like clockwork. You should get out more.

[Sinfix_15]

Happens all the time. Enough that I even know when and where for a group - they are like clockwork. You should get out more.

if it happened @ 1:30 in the afternoon on a weekday in rush traffic, id tell them to get the fuck out of the road too.

[David88vert]

It sure does - and you wouldn't say anything to them. Just like you wouldn't and didn't say anything to those cops. All you would do is get on the web and whine - just like you are doing now.

[Sinfix_15]

It sure does - and you wouldn't say anything to them. Just like you wouldn't and didn't say anything to those cops. All you would do is get on the web and whine - just like you are doing now.

ok buddy. Big difference in saying something to you and saying something to a cop. If i got out of my car, walked up to a cop and told him to get the fuck out of the road, i would be arrested.

[Elbow]

I sound like a kid, but the people who believe in angels dont.

I do respect the dead, all of the people holding up traffic were alive.

I'd probably think someone that did though was more mature than a grown man coming on an internet forum and crying because he had to sit and wait for something I would guess far more important than whatever you were doing to go by.

You sound like a middle school kid upset about his life trying to get a rise out of others. Grow up and maybe you will get somewhere in life.

[teh bri]

It doesn't make you a bad person, it makes you look like a fucking ass.

[ISAtlanta300]

ok buddy. Big difference in saying something to you and saying something to a cop. If i got out of my car, walked up to a cop and told him to get the fuck out of the road, i would be arrested.

Still better than going to the dentist for implants, no?

[Sinfix_15]

I'd probably think someone that did though was more mature than a grown man coming on an internet forum and crying because he had to sit and wait for something I would guess far more important than whatever you were doing to go by.

You sound like a middle school kid upset about his life trying to get a rise out of others. Grow up and maybe you will get somewhere in life.

you're 24 years old and telling someone to grow up and get somewhere in life.

[Sinfix_15]

Still better than going to the dentist for implants, no?

you speak wisdom.

[Elbow]

you're 24 years old and telling someone to grow up and get somewhere in life.

Yeah? lol You're almost 30 according to your posted age and making threads on a forum about how upset you are. :gay:

[teh bri]

Yeah? lol You're almost 30 according to your posted age and making threads on a forum about how upset you are. :gay:
this.

[David88vert]

ok buddy. Big difference in saying something to you and saying something to a cop. If i got out of my car, walked up to a cop and told him to get the fuck out of the road, i would be arrested.

You think that it would be wise to get out of your car and tell 20+ bikers off? You don't have any common sense at all.

[Sinfix_15]

Yeah? lol You're almost 30 according to your posted age and making threads on a forum about how upset you are. :gay:

Annoyed would be a more fitting description than upset. Not sure why people act like it takes some great effort or preparation to start a thread.

[Sinfix_15]

You think that it would be wise to get out of your car and tell 20+ bikers off? You don't have any common sense at all.

I wouldnt get out of my car to confront strangers. Horn and me speaking out the window would suffice.

I have never once seen a group of civilians block traffic for their own personal convoy. If it happened on a saturday, wouldnt bother me. Like i said..... weekdays during work hours and in rush traffic, there is no place for these things.

[David88vert]

I wouldnt get out of my car to confront strangers. Horn and me speaking out the window would suffice.

I have never once seen a group of civilians block traffic for their own personal convoy. If it happened on a saturday, wouldnt bother me. Like i said..... weekdays during work hours and in rush traffic, there is no place for these things.

And it was the police who blocked your path for the funeral procession - not civilians just doing it on their own.
So, why are you complaining?

[Sinfix_15]

And it was the police who blocked your path for the funeral procession - not civilians just doing it on their own.
So, why are you complaining?

because the police shouldnt be used to block public traffic for a business service. It would be no different than me opening a pizza place and blocking off traffic for my pizza deliveries. I understand that this method of burial ceremony is sacred to some people.... but it's not to me and it's not to many other nonchristian people. I exercise my religious freedom within the confines of the law.... not excluding traffic law. There should be consistency in the law and things that are otherwise unlawful should not be accepted, or in this case aided by civil servants. When policemen kick protesters out of parks they usually cite some city ordinance regarding proximity to a fire hydrant or occupancy limits or anything else "in fine print" they can use. I expect the same consistency in other laws even though some people may feel it's the right or respectful thing to do. Red means stop, green means go. If i stopped traffic to sacrifice a goat in the middle of an intersection because of my religious beliefs, i would be arrested. Some people (myself included) think sacrificing a goat is stupid and would be angry if i stopped traffic. Well.... i think getting buried in a box on someone else's property and arriving with a convoy of cars is stupid.

[David88vert]

because the police shouldnt be used to block public traffic for a business service. It would be no different than me opening a pizza place and blocking off traffic for my pizza deliveries. I understand that this method of burial ceremony is sacred to some people.... but it's not to me and it's not to many other nonchristian people. I exercise my religious freedom within the confines of the law.... not excluding traffic law. There should be consistency in the law and things that are otherwise unlawful should not be accepted, or in this case aided by civil servants. When policemen kick protesters out of parks they usually cite some city ordinance regarding proximity to a fire hydrant or occupancy limits or anything else "in fine print" they can use. I expect the same consistency in other laws even though some people may feel it's the right or respectful thing to do. Red means stop, green means go. If i stopped traffic to sacrifice a goat in the middle of an intersection because of my religious beliefs, i would be arrested. Some people (myself included) think sacrificing a goat is stupid and would be angry if i stopped traffic. Well.... i think getting buried in a box on someone else's property and arriving with a convoy of cars is stupid.

See, you are dancing around on tangents trying to save face.

Here are the facts:
The police direct traffic - legally.
The police can choose to block and intersection at any time for any reason that they feel serves the public interest.
You are complaining about the police directing traffic, which is their legal task.

If you want to change it, you need to petition your state representative and ask him to change the law; otherwise, you are just complaining like an immature kid.

Georgia Code - Motor Vehicles & Traffic - Title 40, Section 40-6-76
(a) As used in this Code section, a 'funeral procession' means an array of motor vehicles in which the lead vehicle displays a sign, pennant, flag, or other insignia furnished by a funeral home indicating a funeral procession unless led by a state or local law enforcement vehicle and each vehicle participating in the funeral procession is operating its headlights.

(b) Funeral processions shall have the right of way at intersections subject to the following conditions and exceptions:

(1) Operators of vehicles in a funeral procession shall yield the right of way upon the approach of an authorized emergency vehicle or law enforcement vehicle giving an audible and visual signal; and

(2) Operators of vehicles in a funeral procession shall yield the right of way when directed to do so by a traffic officer.

(c) Funeral processions escorted by the police, a sheriff, or a sheriff´s deputy shall have the right of way in any street or highway through which they may pass. Local governments may, by ordinance, provide for such escort service and provide for the imposition of reasonable fees to defray the cost of such service.

(d) The operator of a vehicle not in a funeral procession shall not interrupt a funeral procession except when authorized to do so by a traffic officer or when such vehicle is an authorized emergency vehicle or law enforcement vehicle giving an audible and visual signal.

(e) Operators of vehicles not a part of a funeral procession shall not join a funeral procession by operating their headlights for the purpose of securing the right of way granted by this Code section to funeral processions.

(f) The operator of a vehicle not in a funeral procession shall not attempt to pass vehicles in a funeral procession on a two-lane highway.

(g) Any person violating subsection (d), (e), or (f) of this Code section shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction thereof, shall be punished by a fine not to exceed $100.00.

(h) Any law enforcement officer who is directing or escorting a funeral procession in this state, whether such service is provided while on duty or not, shall enjoy the same immunities from liability as the officer possesses while in the performance of other official duties.

[Got Milk?]

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[Sinfix_15]

See, you are dancing around on tangents trying to save face.

Here are the facts:
The police direct traffic - legally.
The police can choose to block and intersection at any time for any reason that they feel serves the public interest.
You are complaining about the police directing traffic, which is their legal task.

If you want to change it, you need to petition your state representative and ask him to change the law; otherwise, you are just complaining like an immature kid.

Georgia Code - Motor Vehicles & Traffic - Title 40, Section 40-6-76
(a) As used in this Code section, a 'funeral procession' means an array of motor vehicles in which the lead vehicle displays a sign, pennant, flag, or other insignia furnished by a funeral home indicating a funeral procession unless led by a state or local law enforcement vehicle and each vehicle participating in the funeral procession is operating its headlights.

(b) Funeral processions shall have the right of way at intersections subject to the following conditions and exceptions:

(1) Operators of vehicles in a funeral procession shall yield the right of way upon the approach of an authorized emergency vehicle or law enforcement vehicle giving an audible and visual signal; and

(2) Operators of vehicles in a funeral procession shall yield the right of way when directed to do so by a traffic officer.

(c) Funeral processions escorted by the police, a sheriff, or a sheriff´s deputy shall have the right of way in any street or highway through which they may pass. Local governments may, by ordinance, provide for such escort service and provide for the imposition of reasonable fees to defray the cost of such service.

(d) The operator of a vehicle not in a funeral procession shall not interrupt a funeral procession except when authorized to do so by a traffic officer or when such vehicle is an authorized emergency vehicle or law enforcement vehicle giving an audible and visual signal.

(e) Operators of vehicles not a part of a funeral procession shall not join a funeral procession by operating their headlights for the purpose of securing the right of way granted by this Code section to funeral processions.

(f) The operator of a vehicle not in a funeral procession shall not attempt to pass vehicles in a funeral procession on a two-lane highway.

(g) Any person violating subsection (d), (e), or (f) of this Code section shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction thereof, shall be punished by a fine not to exceed $100.00.

(h) Any law enforcement officer who is directing or escorting a funeral procession in this state, whether such service is provided while on duty or not, shall enjoy the same immunities from liability as the officer possesses while in the performance of other official duties.

i dont give a shit about saving face. i say what i feel and have since day 1 and will continue to do so.

It is not right for funerals to have special privilege. A funeral home is a place of business providing a paid service to a customer.

[David88vert]

i dont give a shit about saving face. i say what i feel and have since day 1 and will continue to do so.

It is not right for funerals to have special privilege. A funeral home is a place of business providing a paid service to a customer.

The law disagrees with you, and frankly, so does the majority of the public. You have a legal right to have your own opinion and to express it, but in this case, your are wrong, plain and simple.

[HeyItsSkeero]

If you're in a hurry just hit your flashers and act like you're one of them.. lol.

In a way I agree and don't. I don't think cops should be blocking the shit off, they have more important shit to worry about and spend government money on.. But I do think the respect should be given for them, I stop no matter how bad it pisses me off that I get stuck when I'm trying to go somewhere..

This is no where near as bad as cops blocking off the road for around 100 mopeds to be let out of some moped meet they had in Chattanooga a month or two ago.. That shit was ridiculous..

[Bajjani]

Yay for WL stupidity. Sinfix, I don't know you, but you make me happy. Because you're completely fucking stupid you bring a small portion of drama back to the WL that I've missed for so long. Thanks.

[quickdodge®]

they have more important shit to worry about and spend government money on..

What? Later, QD.

[Sinfix_15]

Yay for WL stupidity. Sinfix, I don't know you, but you make me happy. Because you're completely fucking stupid you bring a small portion of drama back to the WL that I've missed for so long. Thanks.

Glad i could be of service.

[Sinfix_15]

I'm gonna order a pizza tonight, i'm gonna call in a police escort for my delivery driver so that it gets here faster.

[Drummerboy]

I'd say you're a bad person, in reference to the funeral situation. I pull over if i see a procession on the road, and if it's long, i get out and stand beside the road. Being respectful goes a long way. I know i'd want the same thing from drivers if I had a loved one die.

also, way back to your statement about tradition and funerals originating in religion on the first page, if you follow that logic, you also believe on halloween we decorate our houses and dress up to appease demons and ghosts.

[Sinfix_15]

I'd say you're a bad person, in reference to the funeral situation. I pull over if i see a procession on the road, and if it's long, i get out and stand beside the road. Being respectful goes a long way. I know i'd want the same thing from drivers if I had a loved one die.

also, way back to your statement about tradition and funerals originating in religion on the first page, if you follow that logic, you also believe on halloween we decorate our houses and dress up to appease demons and ghosts.

The last time i attended the funeral of a loved one, i skipped the convoy and just drove to the burial site. I wouldnt notice or expect any "respect" from passing motorist. Even during the mourning of a lost relative, i couldnt help but feel it was pointless for cars to line up and travel in a convoy. I also couldnt help but notice how much a funeral home resembles a used car lot when you're working out the arrangements. This is a tradition i simply do not believe in. It has nothing to do with respecting the dead.

The holy ghost is equally as fake as casper the ghost. I participate in both Christmas and Halloween. I do not believe in Jesus or ghosts of any kind.

[quickdodge®]

I do not believe in Jesus or ghosts of any kind.

I can't tell you if Jesus is real (or whatever you want to call it), but I can vouch for ghosts being out there. That I know to be fact. Later, QD.

[Sinfix_15]

I can't tell you if Jesus is real (or whatever you want to call it), but I can vouch for ghosts being out there. That I know to be fact. Later, QD.

i have "trusted" friends that swear on their life that they have seen a ghost. I believe that they believe they have seen ghosts... but in my opinion, the mind is a very powerful thing and is capable of playing tricks on us.

[quickdodge®]

i have "trusted" friends that swear on their life that they have seen a ghost. I believe that they believe they have seen ghosts... but in my opinion, the mind is a very powerful thing and is capable of playing tricks on us.

I've seen one once. But my recorded pieces of evidence are my greatest assets towards proof of existence.

It sucks, though, because when I was doing the ghost hunting thing, I had a website up with all evidences posted. I let the website go and deleted the site design tools from my computer before I realized all my sound clips and video clips were in folders within that file. Needless to say, I was quite upset. I had some very good vocal recordings of "the other side." They do exist. No mind tricks here. Later, QD.

[Sinfix_15]

I've seen one once. But my recorded pieces of evidence are my greatest assets towards proof of existence.

It sucks, though, because when I was doing the ghost hunting thing, I had a website up with all evidences posted. I let the website go and deleted the site design tools from my computer before I realized all my sound clips and video clips were in folders within that file. Needless to say, I was quite upset. I had some very good vocal recordings of "the other side." They do exist. No mind tricks here. Later, QD.

Audio wouldnt do anything for me, id be skeptical of video being tampered with. Something i would have to see with my own eyes to believe and even at that point i would seek any and every scientific explanation for it.

[quickdodge®]

Audio wouldnt do anything for me, id be skeptical of video being tampered with. Something i would have to see with my own eyes to believe and even at that point i would seek any and every scientific explanation for it.

I do agree with you, man. It is a very sensitive subject in regards to what to believe and not believe. I believe mainly because I was there and know what I saw/heard. But when I capture a voice (like a recording of a baby crying in the middle of the night in the middle of a cemetery), that is clearly a voice and I know my surroundings, it's hard to cast off. Pictures are my only bane. Between orbs and mists, it's hard to tell what's what a lot of the time so I don't usually mess with them unless it's something really to pry into.

When it's stuff on television, though, I get real skeptical. Wondering if it's just made for TV or what. Later, QD.

[RL...]

People who've taken exctasy have told me that they've witnessed a simple bush grow into a T Rex(dinosaur). Just because we see or hear something doesn't mean it's real or actually happened/existed.

/thread jack

[Got Milk?]

Audio wouldnt do anything for me, id be skeptical of video being tampered with. Something i would have to see with my own eyes to believe and even at that point i would seek any and every scientific explanation for it.

Too bad that there isn't any.

Ghosts are currently undefined in science, and thus can not be used as explanation of paranormal activity.

But Science being Science, which is studied and written by experiments done by, well just another human, can change at any time. So there is hope for your theory, QD. Later.

[quickdodge®]

Just because we see or hear something doesn't mean it's real or actually happened/existed.

/thread jack

No. Just because you didn't see or hear something doesn't mean it didn't happen.


So there is hope for your theory, QD. Later.

I already know that there is hope for what I've experienced as fact. I have (well had) the proof. Later, QD.

[Echonova]

No. Just because you didn't see or hear something doesn't mean it didn't happen.



I already know that there is hope for what I've experienced as fact. I have (well had) the proof. Later, QD.This same exact argument can be made by religion. I'm sorry you guys don't see Jesus Christ, but he comes over to my house on Thursday night for poker.

Ya'll should stop by.

[Echonova]

BTW: Jesus likes to cheat so keep an eye on him.

[Browning151]

This same exact argument can be made by religion. I'm sorry you guys don't see Jesus Christ, but he comes over to my house on Thursday night for poker.

Ya'll should stop by.

Sweet. How many Shekels is the buy-in?