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Sinfix_15
06-29-2013, 10:27 PM
God exist and he gave us free will to do as we want as he did every living thing. The difference is God gave human kind a continence to also judge our actions by.
If we didn't get this gift we would be no better off then animals just killing,Eating and mating. You see these action do occur in humans at times and its cause they lack the continence or will to stop and understand. In some views self continence can also be compared to religion or a faith to believe what we do is wrong or wright. Example: If a man has no ends to what he can do or the way he thinks then he can kill with no remorse. The US Army has started recruiting in the past 50 years more these men and women to use as soldiers. If a soldier has no remorse or God to offend then they can kill at will and obey command.
Minuteman missile launch control men are only selected of those who have no faith for reliability concern.


Irony.... seeing as religion has been the cause of so many deaths.

-EnVus-
06-29-2013, 10:55 PM
Irony.... seeing as religion has been the cause of so many deaths.
Besides the Catholic church in the old days what American religion has been the result of Death ?

Sinfix_15
06-29-2013, 11:11 PM
Besides the Catholic church in the old days what American religion has been the result of Death ?

"american religion" ??? such a thing exists???

Besides those 5 million or so deaths..... hmm... i'll have to get back to you.

It's ok though.... they said "im sorry"
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_cru1.htm

-EnVus-
06-29-2013, 11:24 PM
"american religion" ??? such a thing exists???

Besides those 5 million or so deaths..... hmm... i'll have to get back to you.

It's ok though.... they said "im sorry"
Christian apology for the Crusades (http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_cru1.htm)
Yes for it changed once it came to American and as I said before besides the Catholic era issue ???

Sinfix_15
06-29-2013, 11:29 PM
Yes for it changed once it came to American and as I said before besides the Catholic era issue ???

And to what would you credit this change?

-EnVus-
06-29-2013, 11:31 PM
And to what would you credit this change?
That would be us leaving the old world of Roman Catholic control and starting a new Era in what today is know as America duh lol

Sinfix_15
06-30-2013, 12:15 AM
That would be us leaving the old world of Roman Catholic control and starting a new Era in what today is know as America duh lol

And you credit this change to a religious institution or the principles that America was founded upon?

-EnVus-
06-30-2013, 12:30 AM
And you credit this change to a religious institution or the principles that America was founded upon?
No more of the foundation of giving people like Me and even you the freedom of religion. This is what scares other countries that kill those who want Free religion and try it as Pakistan or Egypt.
Also it was a Christian church that worked with other religions and even Atheist to make way for sailing to America.
I can't say to much good stuff myself about Catholics but i won't bash them. My wife comes from a strong Roman catholic background and family and I helped her convert to Baptist. I and her are now looked down upon from them and i am sure bad mouthed but i can care less.

Sinfix_15
06-30-2013, 01:12 AM
No more of the foundation of giving people like Me and even you the freedom of religion. This is what scares other countries that kill those who want Free religion and try it as Pakistan or Egypt.
Also it was a Christian church that worked with other religions and even Atheist to make way for sailing to America.
I can't say to much good stuff myself about Catholics but i won't bash them. My wife comes from a strong Roman catholic background and family and I helped her convert to Baptist. I and her are now looked down upon from them and i am sure bad mouthed but i can care less.

I think you're giving christianity way too much credit. American principles prevent me from being oppressed by religion, it's not the religious institutions that are fighting for freedom. Even in our current age you can still feel the grip of religion on various policies.

I feel your pain on dealing with the wife's parents. I've walked those shoes myself. I almost married a preacher's daughter. Nothing says awkward like being the tattooed up, bike riding, gun loving, atheist boyfriend at christmas dinner in a preacher's house.

Benefit
07-05-2013, 03:57 AM
im goin zoo every time im goin thru