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i4_garage
11-29-2005, 08:28 AM
Just wondering.....has anyone in here ever made or know some one that made 260 whp on an all motor B18?.........just curious becuz 260 is alot to be accomplish by all motor

99SI
11-29-2005, 10:27 AM
I'm sure with massively high compression, itbs, race gas, and a ragged edge tune it would be attainable.

i4_garage
11-29-2005, 01:48 PM
then i don;t think this guy who is bragging about his integra is telling the truth...he got an intake and a skunk manifold, dont; knwo comp, regular gags, and some shit to it....becuz i am pretty sure it would take a shit load of ca ching to hit that number

EmminoDaGreat
11-29-2005, 02:06 PM
i got that same shit this weekend... a kid with a b16a w/ s2 intake mani and aem v2 intake... nothing else... not even exhaust said he was puttin 165 to the wheels with 140 ft/lbs :jerkit:

99SI
11-29-2005, 03:16 PM
I have a b16A2 w/ Rocket motorsports m22 cams, omnipower flat face race valves, RM valve springs/retainers, K&N typhoon cai, DC JDM header w/ 2.5 inch collector, test pipe, straight 2.5 inch exhaust, AEBS intake mani, milled head, 11.2:1 CR, obd2-obd1 conversion w/ chipped p28 ecu and lots of tuning. I make 173whp and about 105wtq. Whoever you talked to that said that he was making 260 to the wheels out of that motor was full of shit and don't hesitate to call them on it if they ever say it again. Hell, Vteckidd's 2.0 LS/VTEC that's built pretty damn extensively made 280 + at the flywheel, which would be around 240 or so whp.

KevinT707
11-29-2005, 03:58 PM
99SI, 105 torque, that's not right .. I made 110 at 150 whp on B16

dazn
11-29-2005, 05:00 PM
105 torque doesnt sound too crazy to me, not with his mods

LS2ner
11-29-2005, 05:38 PM
Yalls mods might be different. His MOd's could cause him more midrange torque and top to mid range horsepower instead of top end torque, where as your might give you more top end.

i4_garage
11-29-2005, 06:13 PM
to tell u the truth i think that guy who told me his motor pushes 260 whp is full of BS...lol...and he had his kills list which he said included.....G35 all BMW 3 series, Zs, S2K.....and so on.....shit i wish some of yall will spank him with a SOHC ....lol

i4_garage
11-29-2005, 06:14 PM
i can understand 260 to the flywheel ..but damn not to the damn "wheels"

Vuongy_Dong
11-29-2005, 06:57 PM
its attainable if you put over 8 grand to it. sleeves, stroker kit, itb's, bore the fuck out of the head, add some cams, and rev that shit to 10,000 rpm with race gas, and you may get there.

IntegraXTR
11-29-2005, 07:02 PM
don't believe everything you hear dung, I would have told that dude to stfu and go shit himself.

i4_garage
11-29-2005, 07:29 PM
don't believe everything you hear dung, I would have told that dude to stfu and go shit himself.

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>>>i did...and he told me to race him....but i have no car... :( ....my daily beater accord only put out 120 whp *maybe* and 120 lb.... :lmfao:

Ludester
11-29-2005, 07:39 PM
yeah... he's full a shit. The only other thing I could think of is that he's not staighting everything he got done. Beats G35's huummmm.... ask him how bad if he says its close call BULLSHIT. If he makes 260whp then he should murder them.

EmminoDaGreat
11-29-2005, 08:41 PM
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99SI, 105 torque, that's not right .. I made 110 at 150 whp on B16
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ya but did you make that w/ spray? ,.... you made that but you didnt have just an intake mani... and v2 intake... a B16a w/ intake mani and intake isnt going to make anywhere near that....

Ludester
11-29-2005, 08:58 PM
^^^^ preach brother lol

i4_garage
11-29-2005, 09:56 PM
^^^^very true.....my old B16 ...i don;t even think it can hit 130whp hahahahha....it feels like a D16 vtec

1439/2000
11-29-2005, 10:03 PM
don't believe everything you hear dung, I would have told that dude to stfu and go shit himself.

I would have told him to put up or shut up. You Honda guys can look at other Honda motors and know immediately whats up most of the time.

EmminoDaGreat
11-29-2005, 10:04 PM
and not to mention a hatch pushing 160 would have murdered me... the place he took me to "run" was like a parking lot w/ 1/16th mile strait run i was like ? wtf... whatever i got beat by 1/2 car(ya my cars slow but what can you do)... too bad i couldnt get out of second... woulda put mad vtec 3rd on his ass what what...

Ludester
11-29-2005, 10:08 PM
^^^lol see if the guy claiming to push 260 will run u? even if he wins, if its not a blow out then you and I both know he's lying. hopefully I'll be there.

Ludester
11-29-2005, 10:09 PM
I would have told him to put up or shut up. You Honda guys can look at other Honda motors and know immediately whats up most of the time.

sometimes there some hidden secrets yo :eye:

EmminoDaGreat
11-29-2005, 10:13 PM
ive been noticing alot of people talking out of there ass lately.... mostly bull shit about how much power they are making all motor....mostly hondas... anyone else noticing a trend?

1439/2000
11-29-2005, 10:18 PM
ive been noticing alot of people talking out of there ass lately.... mostly bull shit about how much power they are making all motor....mostly hondas... anyone else noticing a trend?


Yeah I've noticed.

i4_garage
11-29-2005, 10:32 PM
fuk this shit....i ma take him on tomorrow in my 1995 5 sp four door EX accord.....i ma hit V-tec or die trying......i will update yall wit good or bad news ..... :lmfao: wish me luck guys.....260whp my fuking asssss!!! :2up:

Ludester
11-29-2005, 10:58 PM
ive been noticing alot of people talking out of there ass lately.... mostly bull shit about how much power they are making all motor....mostly hondas... anyone else noticing a trend?

As a matter of fact I notice it myself aswell.

Ludester
11-29-2005, 11:00 PM
fuk this shit....i ma take him on tomorrow in my 1995 5 sp four door EX accord.....i ma hit V-tec or die trying......i will update yall wit good or bad news ..... :lmfao: wish me luck guys.....260whp my fuking asssss!!! :2up:

I think you can take him... If you hit vtec he'll dye trying lol

i4_garage
11-30-2005, 06:45 PM
aight guys...update on my run today wit him.....lol....the bad news is i didn;t win.....i beat him off the line....but he is fast.....but yall can judge for ur self.....is two car length fast for 260whp?.....my accord is all stock except for some rice ass corners lights.....lol.....but i bark in second like a true honda....wish i had my other car...damn it

Ludester
11-30-2005, 07:15 PM
lol... thats whats up.... who high of a speed you got up to?

Vuongy_Dong
11-30-2005, 08:03 PM
he prlly has a hitman kit hidden away some where.

i4_garage
11-30-2005, 08:23 PM
we went up to like 80 or 90.....well i stop at 85 or someting..

Type-R
11-30-2005, 10:23 PM
i got that same shit this weekend... a kid with a b16a w/ s2 intake mani and aem v2 intake... nothing else... not even exhaust said he was puttin 165 to the wheels with 140 ft/lbs :jerkit:

BS

My 100% stock B16B with CAI and GReddy Evo 2.5" couldn't pull that much off.

On the dyno mine only pulled a 153 whp. Hell, that was BEFORE I put on the Clutchmaster stage 1 and 75 wet shot NX kit.

1439/2000
11-30-2005, 11:06 PM
aight guys...update on my run today wit him.....lol....the bad news is i didn;t win.....i beat him off the line....but he is fast.....but yall can judge for ur self.....is two car length fast for 260whp?.....my accord is all stock except for some rice ass corners lights.....lol.....but i bark in second like a true honda....wish i had my other car...damn it

He beat you by 2 cars and you have a stock accord. His car isn't 260 whp. At all. His car probably wouldnt idle and would be loud as hell if it had that and was n/a(ITBs and the crazy header.) He probably has 30 more hp than you and the weight difference.

i4_garage
12-01-2005, 05:46 AM
He beat you by 2 cars and you have a stock accord. His car isn't 260 whp. At all. His car probably wouldnt idle and would be loud as hell if it had that and was n/a(ITBs and the crazy header.) He probably has 30 more hp than you and the weight difference.



^^^^^exactly :lmfao: ....i think if i add an intake on my accord and headers i probably can take him.... :2up:

IntegraXTR
12-01-2005, 09:10 AM
^^^^^exactly :lmfao: ....i think if i add an intake on my accord and headers i probably can take him.... :2up:

haha, damn racers....

i4_garage
12-01-2005, 09:27 AM
haha, damn racers....
^^^^ :eye:

Vteckidd
12-01-2005, 02:00 PM
i cant beleive i missed this thread lol

Tell him to dyno at our shop if he makes over 210whp, ill give him $50 ALL MOTOR.

If he didnt beat you by 10 car lengths, than hes full of shit. Ask waht cams he has, if he knows what hes talking about he shuld answer
Skunk2 Pro3s
Buddy Club 5s
Toda Cs
Rocket Motorsports M24xs

and ask what header he has, no one is making 260whp on a DC header. itll be a custom header, listen to see if he names RMF, SMSP, Hytech etc. if its a DC header or Toda, he is def lying.

To my knowledge my motor and streetstuff have the highest NA motors B series in GA. i know what it takes to build 260whp, it takes ITBs and a $1500 header. Tbone makes 255whp, and he has 13.5:1 compression and prob around $10k in his motor.

99SI
12-01-2005, 02:36 PM
My car is set up more for midrange and topend HP. Like I said, I have a header back 2.5 exhaust, so pretty much no back pressure. The header is a 4-1. The intake manifold lost a little bit of torque. But, the torque graph is pretty much a straight line across the page, lol. On the tune we were shooting for as meaty a midrange as possible w/o sacrificing top end, seriously, what is the diff between 105 and 110 wtq? No torque is no torque regardless if it's 105 or 110. I expect to get some back when Rocket does a little whittling on my head and valve angles, and I get the RMF b16 header. ;)

Vteckidd
12-01-2005, 03:17 PM
exactly, 99SI we were trying to build his car for a purpose. its not a 12 second drag car, its a fun all around street car. the fact that his car makes power to 9000+rpms makes up for the 5ft/lb loss in TQ. his motor breathes very high, and with high RPM comes less TQ

99SI
12-01-2005, 04:42 PM
^^^^Above 9000 RPM's bitch, get it right, 9300 to be exact then it flattens and falls around 9800! ;).

i4_garage
12-01-2005, 08:12 PM
i cant beleive i missed this thread lol

Tell him to dyno at our shop if he makes over 210whp, ill give him $50 ALL MOTOR.

If he didnt beat you by 10 car lengths, than hes full of shit. Ask waht cams he has, if he knows what hes talking about he shuld answer
Skunk2 Pro3s
Buddy Club 5s
Toda Cs
Rocket Motorsports M24xs

and ask what header he has, no one is making 260whp on a DC header. itll be a custom header, listen to see if he names RMF, SMSP, Hytech etc. if its a DC header or Toda, he is def lying.

To my knowledge my motor and streetstuff have the highest NA motors B series in GA. i know what it takes to build 260whp, it takes ITBs and a $1500 header. Tbone makes 255whp, and he has 13.5:1 compression and prob around $10k in his motor.

>>from the beginning I knew he was BSing....becuz no way..with skunkn 2 mani and a regular DC or something that look like that and a damn intake and make 260 whp......u will be the shit if u had a motor that pushes over 240 whp all motor......vtecckidd....u should bring out some of ur car or customer car and bring along a dyno sheet to give him a :2up: ....lol......

i4_garage
12-01-2005, 08:14 PM
in a Import Tuner issue back last year or something...that had the B series shootout...and tuner can basically go as far as they want....and the most that the winning team can churn out was 250 + whp..and the motor was rate tot he flywheel at 280+.....so unless he bought that motor...lol...iono wat to say

sir2hb
12-02-2005, 02:33 AM
Yea like vteckid said I cant beleave I missed this He would have to have some amazin custom made shit to pull that off

If he let you see the motor Iam pretty sure you know it would be a nice thing

If not when he started it up It would idle high and probaly sound like its camin seein how it would have to have some big ass cams in it

i4_garage
12-02-2005, 09:12 AM
the motor does;t have ITB , and not custom manifold, don;t care wat internals he got.....it just doesn;t look like a 260whp motor

Vteckidd
12-02-2005, 09:44 AM
in a Import Tuner issue back last year or something...that had the B series shootout...and tuner can basically go as far as they want....and the most that the winning team can churn out was 250 + whp..and the motor was rate tot he flywheel at 280+.....so unless he bought that motor...lol...iono wat to say
that was the WD40 Shootout. R&D DYNO won i believe making 280 at the FLYWHEEL. which is around 245-250whp.

if it has a DC header he aint making 260whp. there is a HUGE difference between 240whp and 260whp. Just like the guys taht try to go from 280whp to 300whp spend antoher $10,000, the higher you go in whp, the more money it costs for a small gain.

i4_garage
12-02-2005, 10:07 AM
^^^very true.....someone need to teach this foo a lesson tho....too bad my SOCH accord can;t handle it.lol

Vteckidd
12-02-2005, 10:21 AM
were is this kid at, maybe ill make an apearance with 99SI. i bet he cant even take his 175whp B16 lol

i4_garage
12-02-2005, 10:25 AM
he can be seen rolling around downtown area.....or north area...lol...i don;t want to be an ass, but i don;t like braggers and bullshitters.....if u see a black teg....smoke it

Whatthatslame
12-02-2005, 11:52 AM
sounds like the guy that lives around here...

Thinks that because his car has a Honda TypeR.com stick then i mena it MUST be the one and only 96 Civic Type R coupe... :jerkit:

The Golden Child
12-02-2005, 02:29 PM
sounds like the guy that lives around here...

Thinks that because his car has a Honda TypeR.com stick then i mena it MUST be the one and only 96 Civic Type R coupe... :jerkit:

maybe the sticker adds 50 more HP .. :lmfao:

Vuongy_Dong
12-02-2005, 03:48 PM
he dynoed on a broke dyno.

IntegraXTR
12-02-2005, 04:05 PM
he dynoed on a broke dyno.

haha, yeh he dynoed on a emissions ramp...lol

i4_garage
12-02-2005, 06:58 PM
^^^^ :yourock:

99SI
12-03-2005, 11:35 AM
I need to get out soon. I had a trip to Warner Robbins a few weeks ago and tried to get some shit started with a few cars. One was getting onto 16 at spring street in Macon, a little loud ef hatch that didn't want to go, he revved at me at a light back on the Hwy but didn't want to play on the interstate. Then coming home I had an ex run up beside me and drop down and went wot, so I went to fourth and put about 8 cars on him in about 4 seconds. lol. I may try to head out to Northlake tonight to see what's going on. The only thing is I got to see the SEC championship game.

Vteckidd
12-03-2005, 11:37 AM
you da man my brotha

99SI
12-03-2005, 11:51 AM
FEAR THE EX TAILS!!!!!!!!!! They fool everyone! muhahahahahah

sir2hb
12-04-2005, 05:01 PM
Yea that anit nothing theres a guy that lives in rome telling me that he just got his motor back from cali and that he should be pushing about 500 hp

I say really boosting right

he says no all motor

I say :goodjob: OKAY

I was not feeling well that day so i did not want to explain to him how stupid he sounds

sir2hb
12-04-2005, 05:03 PM
Wheres this guy hang out I would like to run up on him in the b20 nonvtec hatch

i4_garage
12-04-2005, 05:36 PM
if u see a black teg....wiht fat fives...jsut smoke it....lol.....and if u got a camera phone...take a pic first then post it up...i will let u knwo if u smoke the righr BSter

sir2hb
12-05-2005, 09:01 AM
wher he hang out at