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RL...
12-18-2011, 10:55 PM
In your opinion what is the best performance car under $100,000.00 and why? It has to be a production car available here in the states, old or new!



What is mine?:

http://www.nissanusa.com/buildyournissan/summary/index

Because it handles great, goes 0-60 in under 3 seconds, the interior is nice, and it looks great. It's the complete package.

silversol
12-18-2011, 10:56 PM
zr1 corvette/thread

RL...
12-18-2011, 10:58 PM
zr1 corvette/thread

You wish, MSRP on those is 111,500.00 which is over 100,000.00 so you fail. Oh and the 2012 GTR is faster than the 2012 zr1 0-60 too. KTHXBYE

http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette-zr1-sports-car/

-EnVus-
12-18-2011, 11:35 PM
For the power and options it would kill any other ideas gotta love the Snake MSRP is Awesome...

http://autos.yahoo.com/ford/shelby-gt500/2012/coupe/

Bacon
12-19-2011, 07:37 AM
GT500KR

Vteckidd
12-19-2011, 09:01 AM
Define "PERFORMANCE", are we talking all around car or just raw speed?

Id probably say a C6 z06 for the money is the best car around. Handling speed MSRP etc. Much easier to maintain than the Tech Heavy GTR. Dont know much about the SNAKE, although i heard it was pretty nasty

LIKEG6
12-19-2011, 10:23 AM
Z06. The new cobra is supposed to be ridiculous though I read.

Sinfix_15
12-19-2011, 12:03 PM
You wish, MSRP on those is 111,500.00 which is over 100,000.00 so you fail. Oh and the 2012 GTR is faster than the 2012 zr1 0-60 too. KTHXBYE

http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette-zr1-sports-car/

zr1 > gtr

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=mC-PQca6FJU#t=11s

CHADbee
12-19-2011, 12:57 PM
zr1 > gtr

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=mC-PQca6FJU#t=11s

ZR1 is over 100K so its not an option.

FYI: the 2012 Z06 with the the Z07 option is faster than the 2012 GT-R around "The Ring". That is with a professional driver, which none of us are. The new 2013 GT500 is going to be priced in the sub 60k range and is the highest HP V8 ever mass produced with 650HP from the factory, AMAZING bang for the buck street cruiser/highway on ramp killer. With all that said, I would pick the GT-R. It does EVERYTHING really really well. Catless Y-Pipe + Tune = 10 second 1/4 miles passes, extremely fast around a road course, great handling and braking, nice interior, ect.

GT-R is the clear choice if you are ok with paying supercar maintenance for fluids and brakes. Also aftermarket parts have a "GT-R Tax" with the cheapest exhaust around $3900. For the average guy, and even the "good drivers" the GT-R will be the best performing car under 100k.

RL...
12-19-2011, 10:06 PM
zr1 > gtr

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=mC-PQca6FJU#t=11s



It's funnt how one video can say the vette is faster, and one car say the gtr is, seems the GTR laps the N ring faster hhmmmmmmmm: http://www.0-60mag.com/news/2011/03/cars-2012-nissan-gt-r-vs-corvette-zr1-on-the-ring-video/

-EnVus-
12-19-2011, 10:50 PM
It's funnt how one video can say the vette is faster, and one car say the gtr is, seems the GTR laps the N ring faster hhmmmmmmmm: http://www.0-60mag.com/news/2011/03/cars-2012-nissan-gt-r-vs-corvette-zr1-on-the-ring-video/
x2 seen TONS of videos of GTR putting it on the vettes

WhiteAccord
12-19-2011, 10:52 PM
Supra. MK4 TT 6SPD. Pick your turbo + fuel + EM = Beast. For under 100k.

-EnVus-
12-19-2011, 10:57 PM
Supra. MK4 TT 6SPD. Pick your turbo + fuel + EM = Beast. For under 100k.
They looked great but just to heavy for only 320HP at $40k hell a New V6 camaro or mustang would hang with it stock4stock.

-EnVus-
12-19-2011, 10:57 PM
Supra. MK4 TT 6SPD. Pick your turbo + fuel + EM = Beast. For under 100k.
They looked great but just to heavy for only 320HP at $40k hell a New V6 camaro or mustang would hang with it stock4stock.

CHADbee
12-19-2011, 11:47 PM
It's funnt how one video can say the vette is faster, and one car say the gtr is, seems the GTR laps the N ring faster hhmmmmmmmm: http://www.0-60mag.com/news/2011/03/cars-2012-nissan-gt-r-vs-corvette-zr1-on-the-ring-video/

2009 GT-R was slower. 2012 GT-R is faster

http://jalopnik.com/5666310/2012-nissan-gt+r-523-hp-720-ring-time

RL...
12-20-2011, 12:50 AM
I know, the new gtr's are somehow even better than the last years model omg!!!!!

alpine_aw11
12-20-2011, 02:21 AM
Hate to be that guy but I just wouldn't ever buy a GTR......Viper all day, baby. Yea you can bench race me all you want and talk about your boss lap times you've never done, but when I'm ripping shit up in a v10 powered Miata I really won't care at all.

CHADbee
12-20-2011, 08:03 AM
Hate to be that guy but I just wouldn't ever buy a GTR......Viper all day, baby. Yea you can bench race me all you want and talk about your boss lap times you've never done, but when I'm ripping shit up in a v10 powered Miata I really won't care at all.

Vipers are fucking awesome! They are just so insane lol IMO best looking car under 100k

How can you not love this???

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6034/6385105785_aa62d44085_b.jpg

NaNissan
12-20-2011, 08:57 AM
GTR is the best bang for the buck, vipers are not easy to drive fast if so they would dominate the streets vettes are nice.

Vteckidd
12-20-2011, 09:13 AM
yeah Vipers are often overlooked but they arent as user friendly as a GTR from what i have HEARD.

I still think the Z06 has got to be in that lineup, not even the ZR1. Just the plain jane Zo6. Sure it may not be as fast as the GTR, but what is the MSRP price difference? Isnt the z06 still 65K? GTR still around 80-90K

CHADbee
12-20-2011, 09:15 AM
yeah Vipers are often overlooked but they arent as user friendly as a GTR from what i have HEARD.

I still think the Z06 has got to be in that lineup, not even the ZR1. Just the plain jane Zo6. Sure it may not be as fast as the GTR, but what is the MSRP price difference? Isnt the z06 still 65K? GTR still around 80-90K

I have never driven a Viper but I have been told they are more than a handful and will kill you if given the opportunity LOL

Vteckidd
12-20-2011, 09:15 AM
EDIT:

MSRP for Z06- $75.000
MSRP for GTR-$89,000


for $14,000 LESS its hard to argue against the Vette IMO

Vteckidd
12-20-2011, 09:17 AM
oh and the vette gets better highway Gas Mileage LOL

Like Chad said the GTR comes with supercar maintanence, Z06, not so much. Its a chevy.

GTR is much more sophisticated, much more refined.

95420A
12-20-2011, 09:35 AM
There's no doubt that the GT-R is a beast but I personally would take the vette. If I've got 100k to play with that extra 25k will go a long way in makin the vette faster. Plus paying 5k for a brake job on the GT-R like car and driver did on their test model does not sound like fun. It may have been motortrend but it was one of those magazines

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CHADbee
12-20-2011, 10:49 AM
There's no doubt that the GT-R is a beast but I personally would take the vette. If I've got 100k to play with that extra 25k will go a long way in makin the vette faster. Plus paying 5k for a brake job on the GT-R like car and driver did on their test model does not sound like fun. It may have been motortrend but it was one of those magazines

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FYI: Doing aftermarket performance brakes: rotors, pads, fluid, lines and labor is half of what the dealer charges for OEM. Plus it makes the braking capabilities INSANE. I was sore from the seatbelt bruising me after a day at the Tail of the Dragon in a GT-R with upgraded rotors, pads, fluid and lines. No joke, my shoulder area had visible bruising LOL

Moseley
12-20-2011, 05:18 PM
The funny thing is most people who have never driven any of these cars base everything off of magazine stats.

my choice for a car to drive on the STREET, is a 911-S w/ PDK tranny. Its more raw than every other car in the list (maybe the viper is similarly raw but much less refined). Sitting next to any RWD manual car at a light, the 911 is going to have a shot no matter how fast the other car may be. I'd wager that 99% of all guys driving z06s or vipers around town would get raped by the 911 PDK launch control from a light.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pq6QHObAdpo

The GT-R is just not sporty enough. Sure it hauls ass and does well on a track but it's still a heavy tank with a fraction of the 'feel' that a 911 has.

911-S (natural sports car, raw feel is fun)
GTR (can't argue with 2012 performance)
e92 (fun factor and luxury)
z06 (bad ass but not a good street car)
viper (its a chrysler, rock bottom no matter how fast or good looking)

that would be my order for a car to drive around on the street.

-EnVus-
12-20-2011, 08:02 PM
^^ Dude a carrera S, is just at $100k after options id rather buy something $5-10k less and be able to keep maintenance cost under $2000 a visit lol

CHADbee
12-20-2011, 09:36 PM
The funny thing is most people who have never driven any of these cars base everything off of magazine stats.

my choice for a car to drive on the STREET, is a 911-S w/ PDK tranny. Its more raw than every other car in the list (maybe the viper is similarly raw but much less refined). Sitting next to any RWD manual car at a light, the 911 is going to have a shot no matter how fast the other car may be. I'd wager that 99% of all guys driving z06s or vipers around town would get raped by the 911 PDK launch control from a light.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pq6QHObAdpo

The GT-R is just not sporty enough. Sure it hauls ass and does well on a track but it's still a heavy tank with a fraction of the 'feel' that a 911 has.

911-S (natural sports car, raw feel is fun)
GTR (can't argue with 2012 performance)
e92 (fun factor and luxury)
z06 (bad ass but not a good street car)
viper (its a chrysler, rock bottom no matter how fast or good looking)

that would be my order for a car to drive around on the street.
I have driven most of the cars talked about in this thread, and I have driven them hard. I have not driven a Viper before though. I have also not driven a PDK Porsche, yet.(but have driven manual GT3's)

I agree with most of your points, except the E92 being above the C6Z. The current M3 is an awesome car, don't get me wrong BUT these days you have $35k Mustang GT's out braking, corning and accelerating them. The M3 is a fantastic luxury sports coupe but there are MUCH better performance cars out there for the money. At least for a guy like me who is A LOT more focused on performance than luxury.

Bacon
12-21-2011, 08:45 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlt-_R2Kysk

Although the Cobra came in last with the quarter mile, the price of the Cobra + upgrades would still be cheaper than either the ZO6 or the GTR and probably be faster.

Bacon
12-21-2011, 08:49 AM
As for right off the show room floor performance, the GT-R is superior.

CHADbee
12-21-2011, 08:52 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlt-_R2Kysk

Although the Cobra came in last with the quarter mile, the price of the Cobra + upgrades would still be cheaper than either the ZO6 or the GTR and probably be faster.

Dude, the 2013 GT500 with an intake, pulley, exhaust and tune will be a highway MONSTER. Some mod'd GT-R owners will be getting their feelings hurt from a roll with those.

Bacon
12-21-2011, 08:54 AM
Okay well I just did a quick search and the search was based on 2010 models.

But as for off the show room floor, the GT-R is probably still superior to all.

Vteckidd
12-21-2011, 09:51 AM
i love porsche, but i havent seen one sub 100K that i would own, hence i didnt mention it

CHADbee
12-21-2011, 10:20 AM
i love porsche, but i havent seen one sub 100K that i would own, hence i didnt mention it

The ONLY Porsche I would own under 100K is the air-cooled badassness that is the 930:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads9/squerly11169521992.jpg

Bacon
12-21-2011, 12:18 PM
If we were to divide into different classifications, I would also venture to say the Genesis and the upcoming Focus ST are two contenders with huge potential.

Bacon
12-21-2011, 12:25 PM
Yes I do know about the Genesis being a current car but figured I would throw it out there too.

Moseley
12-21-2011, 02:11 PM
I have driven most of the cars talked about in this thread, and I have driven them hard. I have not driven a Viper before though. I have also not driven a PDK Porsche, yet.(but have driven manual GT3's)

I agree with most of your points, except the E92 being above the C6Z. The current M3 is an awesome car, don't get me wrong BUT these days you have $35k Mustang GT's out braking, corning and accelerating them. The M3 is a fantastic luxury sports coupe but there are MUCH better performance cars out there for the money. At least for a guy like me who is A LOT more focused on performance than luxury.

Yeah the 2011 revisions to the C6s are nice too. I think if the title of the thread was best performING car then the M3 would not be anywhere close to the others. I just like the balance of the whole package in the M3. And yeah the new mustangs are fast, especially the boss 302. I hear they rev the boss motors to 8200 no problem with tuning... but the stickers and bulky looks really turn me off. I just don't know if I could drive one.

CHADbee
12-21-2011, 03:17 PM
Just saw this on the GT-R forum: it is official the 2013 model does 10.8's factory. In order to run you bone stock car at the drag strip you would need a 4 point cage ROFL!!!!

FYI: The 2011 model in JDM Land is our 2012. The 2012 in JDM Land is our 2013(which will be here in March)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uEh1w3RfD3I

Bacon
12-21-2011, 04:46 PM
Not much can touch that other than maybe the ZR1.

As for the 2012 Shelby GT500 Super Snake, we are looking at an option of having 800hp from the factory in the price range of the GT-R. If it still doesn't compete, then the GT-R is once again far more superior.

I'd like to see the 2012 GT-R vs 2012 GT500 Super Snake vs 2012 Corvette ZO6.

-EnVus-
12-21-2011, 05:16 PM
The GTR has a lot of power to the eye and feel do to its AWD setup. If the 2012 Super snake was AWD it would hole shot the hell out of the GTR imo.

Bacon
12-21-2011, 05:40 PM
AWD is a huge advantage but if the Super Snake can pull anything close to a 10 second 1/4 mile time, then the GT-R will have huge competition.

Chad, are we looking at cars right off the dealer lot with any dealer options or high performance cars that you can put money into to put them into the same price bracket and performance bracket? There are differences between the prices of the three on topic now with room for potential.

CHADbee
12-21-2011, 05:48 PM
The GTR has a lot of power to the eye and feel do to its AWD setup. If the 2012 Super snake was AWD it would hole shot the hell out of the GTR imo.
...but the snake doesn't LOL

AWD is a huge advantage but if the Super Snake can pull anything close to a 10 second 1/4 mile time, then the GT-R will have huge competition.

Chad, are we looking at cars right off the dealer lot with any dealer options or high performance cars that you can put money into to put them into the same price bracket and performance bracket? There are differences between the prices of the three on topic now with room for potential.
I assumed we were talking about stock cars, cause if we are talking modified cars then you can buy a $15k Evo VIII, dump $85K into it and outperform all the cars in this thread(until it breaks).

The crazy thing is, I would rather spend $85K on a GT-R and do bolt-ons than have that built Evo.

Bacon
12-21-2011, 05:52 PM
I assumed we were talking about stock cars......

Well, in that case.....


.....I'd like to see the 2012 GT-R vs 2012 GT500 Super Snake vs 2012 Corvette ZO6.

Bacon
12-21-2011, 05:54 PM
And to be fair, all three cars equipped with any factory dealer option.

WhiteAccord
12-21-2011, 08:17 PM
They looked great but just to heavy for only 320HP at $40k hell a New V6 camaro or mustang would hang with it stock4stock.

With 40k, you can make well into the 600+ Reliably w/ out opening the motor.

New Mustang wouldnt be able to hang stock vs. stock. I know this for a fact, because I ran a 2011 Mustang w/ Exhaust against my 1990 MK3 7M BPU @ 7psi and we were neck and neck.

RL...
12-21-2011, 09:20 PM
GTR FTW....they do everything well...just cost a lot to buy and maintain

Drummerboy
12-21-2011, 11:27 PM
$3K Prelude + K20/24 + Built + PeakBoost + CRV AWD 6spd tranny + 200 shot

It'd be my choice, anyways.

RL...
12-21-2011, 11:49 PM
That's because you haven't driven a proper rwd or awd car around a track. ^^^

Drummerboy
12-22-2011, 12:36 AM
^^^^ That's because you haven't taken me around in your supa fly sentra.

Continue to eat previously mentioned dick.

lol UNOIKID.

Bacon
12-22-2011, 08:30 AM
^^^^ That's because you haven't taken me around in your supa fly sentra.

Continue to eat previously mentioned dick.

lol UNOIKID.

umm......Sentras are FWD.

DA-TEG90
12-22-2011, 09:13 AM
Cadillac CTS-V ....Just because people dont view it as a "sports car"...One hell of a car right from factory and just along the lines of 60K

Bacon
12-22-2011, 09:35 AM
The CTS-V is a pretty good car but with the likes of the three forementioned cars, it's gonna be tough to compare the CTS.

RL...
12-22-2011, 10:53 AM
umm......Sentras are FWD.

Yeah he just failed, some people just don't know anything about cars.

GTR ftw.


Cadillac CTS-V ....Just because people dont view it as a "sports car"...One hell of a car right from factory and just along the lines of 60K

Those things are nice as hell! I would LOVE to have one of those as a DD and a GTR as a racecar.

WhiteAccord
12-22-2011, 01:52 PM
Cadillac CTS-V ....Just because people dont view it as a "sports car"...One hell of a car right from factory and just along the lines of 60K

4 Door Vette is what I consider it....

Drummerboy
12-22-2011, 02:30 PM
umm......Sentras are FWD.

lol I know sentras are fwd. It was suppose to come across with the same idea as "Because racecar" or "Vtec just kicked in yo". Ignorant humor I guess? C'est la vie...

DA-TEG90
12-27-2011, 08:06 AM
4 Door Vette is what I consider it....

yes and alot of people dont "expect" a cadillac to have that kind of power...its a grocery getting / church going MONSTER

Bacon
12-27-2011, 08:08 AM
yes and alot of people dont "expect" a cadillac to have that kind of power...its a grocery getting / church going MONSTER

True but doubt it will keep up either either of the three cars mentioned.

DA-TEG90
12-27-2011, 08:08 AM
Those things are nice as hell! I would LOVE to have one of those as a DD and a GTR as a racecar.[/QUOTE]

ya you and thousands of other ppl....haha

Bacon
12-27-2011, 08:58 AM
If we really wanna compare high performance sedans, the Lexus IS-F takes it.

Here are my picks based on chassis and drive platform.

FWD: 2012 Ford Focus ST
RWD: Hyundai Genesis
AWD: Subaru WRX STi
Sedan: Lexus IS-F
Hi-Perf: 2012 Shelby GT500 Super Snake

RL...
12-27-2011, 07:10 PM
Gtr owns all cars under 100 grand.