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Neejay
10-26-2011, 12:27 AM
97 Honda Accord LX, just replaced the distributor internal seal and o-ring. I've been searching on here for hours and I've tried 99% of the recommended stuff:

- Car ran just fine prior to this, there was just a huge oil leak on the head at the distributor hole and coming out of the distributor cap...I also found oil in the spark plug holes and on the spark plugs
- I marked the distributor's location with a marker...but forgot to do TDC first, if that matters
- I originally had the distributor rotor flipped 180 degrees + one of the connectors not all the way in, so it wouldn't start (the green and yellow plug as seen here: http://honda-tech.com/showpost.php?p=32262683&postcount=1 ). I corrected both of these and verified that the rotor points at the #1 plug wire on the distributor when at TDC
- I get spark (tested each wire w/ a screw driver + grounded bolt, and verified with the wire + plug in) and gas (I can smell it + fuel pump primes and I here the click when the CEL light goes off)
- I flooded the engine when I didn't have one of the connectors in and the distributor rotor flipped, I would assume. So I did the gas pedal all the way down while cranking to un-flood the motor. Now it cranks faster and stronger, but still nothing.
- I held the coil plug wire a little out of the coil and verified spark
- Without the oil cap on, I verified that the cam DOES still move (rules out snapped timing belt)
- I've checked all the fuses
- Checked over and over that the plug wires were in the correct order on the distributor.

The only thing left is checking the timimg, but can I check timing if the car won't crank? Do I just get someone to keep cranking the car?

I don't have the money to buy-n-check, so I was trying to narrow it down before just buying a new distributor and/or coil.

EmminoDaGreat
10-26-2011, 12:59 AM
you have it so that it is 1, 3, 4 ,2 right?

You did not disassemble the physical distributor correct?

Neejay
10-26-2011, 01:34 AM
you have it so that it is 1, 3, 4 ,2 right?

You did not disassemble the physical distributor correct?
Starting at 12 o'clock, looking at the distributor, what should be the order? 1, 3, 4, 2? You're making me second guess the my current order...heh

And yeah, I did disassemble the distributor: http://honda-tech.com/showpost.php?p=32262683&postcount=1

I used this http://0.tqn.com/d/autorepair/1/0/u/d/94886975.gif , but only after you just asked me that...I had another order that I "found" via searching. It almost just sounded like it wanted to start, but it didn't.

EmminoDaGreat
10-26-2011, 01:52 AM
well sometimes you will accidently put the roll pin 180 degrees off, so it moves the firing order , ie 1 is where 4 is 3 is where 2 is....etc... I think this is more or less the issue. if you get a pop or backfire through the intake you're getting closer lol

RBS
10-26-2011, 09:15 AM
the correct firing order if looking at the dizzy from the side with the FLAT side facing up is...

_____
| 3 4 |
| 1 2 |
\____/



this applies to most honda dizzys... if you put it back together right

Neejay
10-27-2011, 08:07 AM
well sometimes you will accidently put the roll pin 180 degrees off, so it moves the firing order , ie 1 is where 4 is 3 is where 2 is....etc... I think this is more or less the issue. if you get a pop or backfire through the intake you're getting closer lol


the correct firing order if looking at the dizzy from the side with the FLAT side facing up is...

_____
| 3 4 |
| 1 2 |
\____/



this applies to most honda dizzys... if you put it back together right

ding, ding...turns out I had the wrong spark plug order (I found about 3 different orders, but nothing confirmed). Ironically, the distributor rotor was flipped 180 degrees because I based its position on the WRONG spark plug order. Instead of searching for an accord plug order, I finally did a search for F22B2 plug order and came up with this:

http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae13/brycarp/Car%20Stuff/DSC01347.jpg

Now the distributor cap is grinding, so I bought a new cap and rotor and it's still doing the same thing...time for a new distributor I'm assuming. I guess the bearing in it is shot now?

RBS
10-27-2011, 09:02 AM
install the dizzy on the engine with no rotor button and wiggle the rotor shaft, if there is play then yes the bearings in it are bad but if there is no play then it is either bent or your cap is on crooked.

Neejay
10-27-2011, 11:38 PM
install the dizzy on the engine with no rotor button and wiggle the rotor shaft, if there is play then yes the bearings in it are bad but if there is no play then it is either bent or your cap is on crooked.

I didn't take the rotor back off, but I tried wiggling the rotor and there is NO movement. How can the cap be on crooked though? It screws in just fine and it's brand new. Also, can the distributor shaft get bent that easily?

4wslude
10-28-2011, 12:57 AM
here is a pic of where the wires go just angle it to how your dizzy is turned and i checked and it matches the wires on my car and there the same

http://i361.photobucket.com/albums/oo55/leppy103/ba501072.jpg