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Bacon
10-21-2011, 10:21 PM
....troops will be pulling out of iraq and Afghanistan. Gonna be good seeing them home.

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Browning151
10-21-2011, 10:38 PM
I'm a little on the fence with the withdrawal, good to see the troops coming home, but will Iran and other countries begin to show a major influence/presence there after we pull out?



































......and a pic I found kind of funny and somewhat related......
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s200/Browning151/ohcrap.jpg

EG_Ryder
10-21-2011, 11:08 PM
Hungry sheep will graze

Xrated O.G.
10-21-2011, 11:35 PM
Troops will in fact be out of Iraq by years end, but the troops will remain in Afghanistan until 2014. Now with that being said, with the way things are going, the troops will be based out of Afghanistan and fighting in Pakistan and Iran. Dont for a moment attempt to kid yourselves on thinking that war in both of those countries is not on the horizon...

Echonova
10-22-2011, 12:43 AM
I find myself conflicted on this issue. On one hand I agree with Ron Paul that we are in countries that we need not be (etc usual Ron Paul bit about ALL troops need to come home), however on the other I am worried about a lack of presence of US troops in the region as well. Even with a joke of a leader like Obama, our military is feared throughout the world... For the moment.



For the moment...



Right now is just the calm before the storm. I'm no Glen Beck conspiracy theorist type, but it doesn't take a genius (which I happen to be) to figure out something is not right with the world today. Actions are being taken on a global scale that most people either can't comprehend, or don't want to.

-EnVus-
10-22-2011, 12:55 AM
We didn't belong there to begin with.....I will be glad when we can bring all the troops home or at least most.

alpine_aw11
10-22-2011, 01:04 AM
Iran is not anywhere near as big of a threat as everyone thinks. Ahmadinejad is like the red-haired stepchild of the Iranian government, he has no power, thus his insanity will never amount to anything real. America just enjoys fucking with the middle east, we've been doing it since the 50's and we will certainly continue. Argue all you want but it's just the truth.

Echonova
10-22-2011, 01:04 AM
We didn't belong there to begin with.....I will be glad when we can bring all the troops home or at least most.I whole heartily agree if they would be re-assigned to our southern border... But that will never happen no matter who is in office.

Echonova
10-22-2011, 01:07 AM
Iran is not anywhere near as big of a threat as everyone thinks. Ahmadinejad is like the red-haired stepchild of the Iranian government, he has no power, thus his insanity will never amount to anything real. America just enjoys fucking with the middle east, we've been doing it since the 50's and we will certainly continue. Argue all you want but it's just the truth.I can, and will argue all I want.


But that's not the point of this discussion...



Let's say Ahmadinejad had a nuclear weapon... Just for fun.



Do you think he's crazy enough to actually use it???

-EnVus-
10-22-2011, 01:09 AM
Iran is not anywhere near as big of a threat as everyone thinks. Ahmadinejad is like the red-haired stepchild of the Iranian government, he has no power, thus his insanity will never amount to anything real. America just enjoys fucking with the middle east, we've been doing it since the 50's and we will certainly continue. Argue all you want but it's just the truth.
According to our Republicans and Dems alike on the same view agree we will never go to war in the Middle east again. Also i agree Iran is a bastard child that even the other Middle easterns hate lol...Ahmadinejad, wont do shit unless his Boss the cleric leader says so


I whole heartily agree if they would be re-assigned to our southern border... But that will never happen no matter who is in office.
Lol Did you watch the recent episode of South Park "Last of the Mehicans" OMG Hilarious!

Echonova
10-22-2011, 01:10 AM
I haven't watched South Park since they came out with the movie...

Echonova
10-22-2011, 01:11 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTaLLM6cOsU

alpine_aw11
10-22-2011, 01:12 AM
I can, and will argue all I want.


But that's not the point of this discussion...



Let's say Ahmadinejad had a nuclear weapon... Just for fun.



Do you think he's crazy enough to actually use it???

Highly unlikely imo. He's crazy, but not that crazy. But as I stated, it's irrelevant because he is actually even more flaccid power-wise than an American president is.

Echonova
10-22-2011, 01:20 AM
Highly unlikely imo. He's crazy, but not that crazy. But as I stated, it's irrelevant because he is actually even more flaccid power-wise than an American president is.You sure? You know Ahmadinejad claims he was “directed by Allah to pave the way for the glorious appearance of the Mahdi" (the 12th Imam)


But whatever... Nobody really believes all that religion stuff nowadays away. Separation of church and state man, it's like, our right and stuff.

alpine_aw11
10-22-2011, 01:31 AM
You sure? You know Ahmadinejad claims he was “directed by Allah to pave the way for the glorious appearance of the Mahdi" (the 12th Imam)


But whatever... Nobody really believes all that religion stuff nowadays away. Separation of church and state man, it's like, our right and stuff.

I think he's just an attention whore personally. I see nothing threatening about him.

Echonova
10-22-2011, 01:36 AM
I think he's just an attention whore personally. I see nothing threatening about him.You may be right. I do have a flaw because I take people at their word. When he says he wants to wipe Israel off the map and start Armageddon... I believe him.


Especially if those words involving me dying someone. I'm not ready to die, just so Ahmadinejad can figure out the 12th Imam is really 8lb 7oz baby Jesus...

Echonova
10-22-2011, 01:39 AM
On a side note: I have consumed too many tasty adult beverages and have been up too many hours. I'm hitting the sack.

SoLJames95
10-22-2011, 02:07 AM
Okay well me clear some things up here.................... As I am currently in IRAQ! We got here in July, and our orders say 365 days. We were told we got cut short and were going home in November, but now our unit chain of command say no we are staying. And that was right after our Boss(president) said hey everyone is coming home in Dec. We have been told we will reside in Kuwait till mid Feb. pulling security back and forth from kuwait to Iraq to get the rest of stuff out of Iraq. So dont let this propaganda fool you. Also if you think Iran is not a threat, THINK AGAIN! They have an actual army, and are tactical. It would be worse then this 9 year war in less time. Just letting you know. Thanks guys for the support thoug. and to my battle in the A. Hold it DOwn homie. ;)

Julio
10-22-2011, 05:12 PM
Oil....

Julio
10-22-2011, 05:14 PM
Btw- War will continue... Those countries cannot live under democracy..( not anytime soon) They need kings,communist leaders.. You know why ? Education..

silly wabbit...

98blackcivic
10-22-2011, 05:46 PM
you guys cant base what u you know from what u hear on the news or what u read.
we're only fucking ourself in the long run.
watch

-EnVus-
10-22-2011, 06:18 PM
We can't afford to stay in the middle east it's to costly now days and the public has became to aware of the casualties.

Sinfix_15
10-22-2011, 06:29 PM
We can't afford to stay in the middle east it's to costly now days and the public has became to aware of the casualties.

i wish i could afford to stay in the middle east
http://www.travelingdubai.com/projects/dubai-waterfront.jpg

Julio
10-22-2011, 08:13 PM
you guys cant base what u you know from what u hear on the news or what u read.
we're only fucking ourself in the long run.
watch


Truth.

carbon_crash
10-22-2011, 08:32 PM
I'm just wondering how long it will take our enemies to bring the battle to American soil after our troops are pulled out?

-EnVus-
10-22-2011, 08:46 PM
I'm just wondering how long it will take our enemies to bring the battle to American soil after our troops are pulled out?

The only country capable of bringing us the fight is China

carbon_crash
10-22-2011, 09:04 PM
^^Yeah, you got a point. Hopefully terroristic activities on US soil won't rapidly increase after our troops pull out. But then again, our troops will be back in the US!

SoLJames95
10-23-2011, 07:38 AM
this is why there is the biggest us. embassy in baghdad. ;) and those guys are staying, theres like 160. now that is somewhere i would not wanna be after dec 31

B18c1Turboed
10-23-2011, 10:02 AM
I think Iraq should pay the USA for liberating that country. And where the bad ones, we pay to liberate it and still pay for oil.

SoLJames95
10-23-2011, 10:28 AM
you guys cant base what u you know from what u hear on the news or what u read.
we're only fucking ourself in the long run.
watch

I base my facts off of my chain of commands. Im here and thats what were told. These are the facts! he said we will be pulled out of Iraq; heres the KICKER! but my unit an also 20=30k troops will be sitting in Kuwait beginning to middle of next year. Will all be sitting in kuwait still doing missions in and out of Iraq and probably waiting for something to pop off. He didnt say that, but thats what was put down in our briefing this morning. BTW he is #1 in my chain of command. So thats the FACTS! BTW we dont have cable just internet. Noone knew of the presidents speech till after our brief. Sooooooooooo you do the math.
We will treat Iraq like North Korea is now. We will use a close country like Kuwait to have soldiers stationed there in case something was to happen. Think about it. We as America/military will always have our foot all the way in or keeping the door open in hostel countries or countries that cant sustain themselves.

and if your wondering its getting worse here as far as attacks. and on top of that the bases theres 2 that we have in kuwait are meant to only hold 10k troops at a time. They are all over stacked by 5-7k. We have soldiers sleeping on the floor/ground. But there will be alot of us coming home in DEC.. He will use military troops for his campaign. Obama will have news crews there to see us off the plane and he might be at a couple of bases in America to make speeches, and shake hands, kiss babies, etc. How do I know this we have been briefed on how to act and to stay clear of certain things we say in cased interviewed. Its all Propaganda!

WATCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[3000gt20s]
10-23-2011, 01:23 PM
browning151-----you forgot the godfather of all these dictators..... even though hes basically already dead... lol dude deserves to die just like the rest of them.
http://i52.tinypic.com/dp7ocj.jpg